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Guillemot on Ubisoft Open World Mechanics: Zelda and Horizon: Zero Dawn Borrowed from Us

Mechanics from Ubisoft open world games can be found in highly acclaimed titles like Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Horizon: Zero Dawn, said Yves Guillemot.

He also explained Ubisoft's recent focus on multiplayer games as a response to what customers want nowadays.

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Aurenar2450d ago

I do agree that Ubisoft tends to get too much flack for this, but then again their games are usually still rough when they ship. We'll see what happens with Origins.

princejb1342450d ago

To bad Ubisoft open world games are repetitive af. They start out good than 3 hours in I'm like " didn't I play a mission just like this one not to long ago"

Eonjay2450d ago

Agreed. If they feel so strongly about what was borrowed from them, they should borrow back the things that made Sony and Nintendo games better.

InMyOpinion2450d ago

Watch dogs 2 is their crown jewel though. It has an amazing open world with tons of secrets and diverse activities.

zerocarnage2450d ago

Yet in every game some where along the line there's repeating if some kind, but what the hell let's all just focus in Ubisoft for it lol.

nveenio2450d ago

If Ubisoft open world games were half as good as Zelda and Zero Dawn, I'd buy more Ubisoft games.

Seraphim2450d ago

that's exactly it. They do a great job for the most part but when it comes to filler it's repetition is killer. They really need to create a larger variety of objectives and missions instead of having us doing the same stuff over and over again.

NewMonday2450d ago

because the rest of the game is the exact same as those 3 hours, over and over and over.. didn't play a Ubisoft game since FC3 because of this $#!t

Sono4212450d ago

hmm... I don't remember my guns breaking after killing 3 enemies? What are they talking about?

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naruga2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

what a liar ... lame Ubisoft stole everyone else in order to make made AC origins and its previous games ....completely copy pasted MGSV and made Ghost recon, and AC origins , Bloodborne -Zelda combat was ripped off for AC origins, AC copied all its good elements from any MMORPG out there ..Watch Dogs1,2 were just a expensive well budged GTA clones

Pandamobile2450d ago

Every game that is made is an evolution of games that came before it. Calling them copy pasted from MGS5, GTA, etc is a bit disingenuous. Splinter Cell defined the stealth genre as much as early MGS games did, and Watch Dogs is a spin off of the Driver series which was GTA before GTA.

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DarXyde2450d ago

I would argue both took more inspiration from The Witcher than anything Ubisoft made.

cabbitwithscissors2450d ago

What's horrible is that EA gimps their games in content and basically nickle and dime gamers, but Ubisoft gimps their games' gameplay and content and game mechanics...which is worse, I'm guessing both are and both deserve to be castigated for it.

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ccgr2450d ago

Games borrow from each other all of the time. Imitation is a form of flattery.

Deep-throat2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

He's right. But Zelda did it better... Horizon Zero Dawn copied almost everything from Ubisoft games and the new Tomb Raider...

Horizon ZD = Ubisoft games simulator

UCForce2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

Yup, you completely hate Sony in every turns. Horizon Zero Dawn do borrow some Ubisoft games but HZD have Witcher 3 inspiration especially the quest design. I don't care what you said because I'm not convinced by your predictable and evasive attitude. The gameplay in HZD is great. Sure, Human AI isn't that smart, but the AI machine is the main spotlight.

Edit : Sure, you can try to convinced and respond. Sometimes you are right, but most of time you are miscalculated.

Deep-throat2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

I don't hate Sony bro. I know you're loyal to Sony (which is ridiculous btw) but come on guys, you are so overly sensitive here. I rarely post comments in Sony related news...

As for HZD, I've been saying the very same thing when the game came out, but some of you here mocked me and accused me of trolling. And no, the AI machine wasn't even decent.

JackBNimble2450d ago

Lol at Deep-throat calling anyone a loyalist ... smh

bluefox7552450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

@Deep I'm inclined to agree with Jack, you pretending like you're not an extreme loyalist is laughable, everyone here knows differently.

Relientk772450d ago

Deep-Trolling can you give it a rest, geez

We know you're anti-Sony

thorstein2450d ago

This is why I miss bubbles!

Liqu1d2450d ago

An ignore user feature would fix a lot of problems with this site.

wonderfulmonkeyman2450d ago

@Liqu1d
YES!
That is something that even Facebook and Twitter have; it should be so simple to have an option to mute individual posts from specific users.
It hurts no one and solves a lot of needless quarrels and bickering on this site.
Oh, wait... N4G doesn't care how it gets its clicks so long as it gets them.
Should have remembered that from the off...

bluefox7552450d ago

@Liqu1d Right? They can change the bubble system, it seems like implementing an ignore feature would be way easier. Could ignore all of the "loyalists" that have zero self awareness to the point that they shamelessly call others the same. I mean, do these guys think we don't know? We see them post everyday, lol.

cabbitwithscissors2450d ago

A flag system would be better in my opinion. The worse the trolling the redder it becomes, and the opposite would be on the other end of the spectrum, but knowing N4g-gers all of us would be red branded. :)

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Clown_Syndr0me2450d ago

Now you mention it I see the similarities but Horizon Zero Dawn was much better.

You may not be a PS Fan but guess what neither am I, I primarily play Xbox and rarely touch my PS but Horizon is still one of if not the best single player title I've played this year.

Alexious2450d ago

I don't know about that. Horizon is a great game, it doesn't have huge innovations but it is better than the usual "Ubisoft open world game". Though I'm hyped for the new Assassin's Creed!

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rainslacker2450d ago

I don't believe that every game has to innovate something in some way....although I'd argue that the enemy AI in the game is quite robust in many aspects.

What's important is how well it's all put together, and I think that's where Horizon shines. There are aspects of the dialogue system, and IMO sometimes some of the ancillary story is delivered in a dry way, but beyond that, the game is exceptionally well crafted. It has a nice lore, interesting looks at tribalism, great metaphors about hatred, mystery, action, and the main story along with many of the side stories are quite compelling. More importantly, outside the fetch type quests, most of the quests actually have some relevance to the sub-story arcs that exist in the game.

UCForce2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

AI Machines are challenging. It's just that you don't see full potential on them. About you post comment on Sony rarely, I don't think so because you often post comments on Sony. And you still have that low reputation, so yes you deserve to get disagree for good reason. About me being PlayStation Loyalist, PlayStation changed my life ever since the first PS, so yeah I stay with them, but I'm not cocky and hypothetical and crazy like other. GG took a risk to leave comfort zone and tried something new for once and they did it. You just want GG to crawl back to do same thing over again. Don't get me wrong, I love Killzone series, but I prefer people to take risk by leaving comfort zone. And please, don't lie to me, you very hate Sony.

TheColbertinator2450d ago

Excellent work,Deepthroat.

The truth shall set them free

UCForce2450d ago

Nope. Poorly executed from @DeepThoart. Just like you.
You know It's funny that both of you want Sony gone which is low.

guyman2450d ago

Nothing but pure bullshit

rainslacker2450d ago

I suppose it would.

Now he just has to present some actual truth.

DVAcme2450d ago

Show me an open-world UbiSoft game with combat anywhere near as polished and intense as HZD's and we'll talk.

uptownsoul2450d ago

I love how Guerrilla did better in their 1st try than Ubisoft has done in almost the past decade

rainslacker2450d ago

You find a lot of joy when someone gives you a new console war argument to make aren't you?

Ever able to come up with something on your own without someone else planting the seed in your head?

InTheLab2450d ago

How did Zelda make tower scaling Better?

RedDevils2450d ago

Deep-throat should swallow a big shit through his throat.

Dark_Knightmare22450d ago

Dude people look at your name and just move on. You're the biggest troll and fanboy on here beside moldybread and your opinion is worth crap

Dark_Knightmare22450d ago

Hold up lol you just said down below you rarely post in Sony articles you can't be serious bro. You're delusional saying that you might need some professional help because you come off as living in some fantasy world where you don't troll Sony at every opportunity and people don't call you out. Get help bro seriously and quit defending pieces of plastic

frostypants2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

Well that was a stupid comment...

Yeah, Horizon is just like Tomb Raider, because...er...female? They play nothing alike. You are delusional.

Davidgr22450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

It goes to show that you have never played Horizon Zero Dawn. Just 'cause both are female and use a bow doesn't make it the same. Ubisoft open world games are good, but they are very repetitive.

trooper_2450d ago

Anything to attack Sony, huh?

DarXyde2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

Don't you ever get tired of trolling? Serious question. You consistently troll, writing anti-Sony nonsense that has no basis in reality. Explain yourself: how exactly does Horizon Zero Dawn copy "almost everything from UbiSoft games"? C'mon, get specific. Draw the parallels. Don't be shy. Tell us what's copied. You say it copied "almost everything". Surely, you can come up with a comprehensive list.

Now what exactly is copied from Tomb Raider? The bow? The crafting system? Because crafting has never in its long history been done before Tomb Raider? You might have a point...

That is, if you conveniently ignore any of The Witcher games (Gwent withstanding), Runescape, The Last of Us (released 2 months later, so no, they didn't do any last minute additions to the game), Resident Evil Outbreak of all things, Kingdom Hearts, Fallout 3, Dead Space, BioShock, etc., and so on, ad nauseum. I've been using bows as a main weapon since Turok Evolution, and that's just what I recall immediately.

...but no, you're right. Horizon totally ripped off UbiSoft games and Tomb Raider.

Horizon is most like The Witcher--it does, after all, have people who worked on The Witcher. So we're not going to say The Witcher copied UbiSoft games? I wonder why....

Put a little more soul into it. I'd say you can do better, but you've yet to show anything creative or even based in reality. This site sure does attract some interesting people, for lack of a better word anyway.

TheKingKratos2450d ago

You have Microsoft Deep in your Throat.

DarXyde2449d ago

I don't know about that.

Microsoft fanboy? Hard to say.

Anti- Sony? Definitely.

That, or they just do it for the reactions. If so, that's even worse and I almost feel sorry for them.

Almost.

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Big_Game_Hunters2450d ago

True, its the way it is.You can tell Some of BOTW is prevalent in the new AC as well.

wonderfulmonkeyman2450d ago

Ironically, BotW did things so well that the director behind FF15 wants to take notes to make the next big FF more like BotW, which is cool in my book so long as the story is great too. [BotW had a good story, but there just wasn't enough of it compared to the usual Zelda game, so I hope the next FF doesn't do that and adds plenty of story to the mix too.]

mafiahajeri2450d ago

Borrowed and made funner games.

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

lodossrage1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

jambola1h ago

Ceo says stupid thing
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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

Christopher1d 22h ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack1d 21h ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics1d 4h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Christopher21h ago

If only PC games supported controllers more. Main reason I play primarily on console. So many games have shit support on PC. Playing Dark Envoy now, and it's quite frustrating since I have to switch to keyboard during cut scenes just to make sure advancing conversation doesn't also auto-select a decision. Let alone it's quite rough to select between characters and inventory screens are bad bad bad.

Anywho, similar complaints for both I find. But, I 100% agree that both PC and consoles should support both as best as possible.

crazyCoconuts16h ago

PS may push more kb support in the future to get more PC converts, we'll see.

Flewid63815h ago

As someone with a high end PC, I feel like the ease is on PS5. Too many PC games are a troubleshooting nightmare, which few people have the time for when all you want to do is pop in a game & play it.

Yui_Suzumiya8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I just use an Xbox controller on my laptop for everything 😆 .. I haven't used a keyboard / mouse combo for PC gaming since 1996

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LordoftheCritics20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I don't think you understand what I mean by the lack of m/kb support on PS.

Over a thousand titles have PS controller support on PC.

Not even 30 titles have m/kb support on PS5.

Once you are done with the single player title, you'll go back to playing your daily shooter/looter/mmo etc which the pc gamer has mastered with their mouse and keyboard.
Why would any pc gamer make the switch?

jznrpg11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

PC is secondary to PlayStation for them. Mouse and keyboard would affect development. Live service will have it but most single player games aren’t going to have it as PC is not the focus

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Fishy Fingers1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan1d 6h ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens521d 6h ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

porkChop17h ago

It just doesn't work that way though. Plenty of the best games ever made were never available on PC. That didn't make PC gamers buy consoles to play them. This kind of strategy has never worked in the past and it won't work now. It's fine for PS to hold their games back and release on PC later, but to think that will boost console sales is wishful thinking. All this will accomplish is some double dipping, which is obviously good for business.

JackBNimble17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

People aren't going to switch from pc to ps5, why would anyone do that for a game?
Most sony exclusives aren't all that to begin with, and pc has the option to upgrade what they want when they want it. Having access to some ps5 games, gamepass and steam.

Thinking this would happen is naive

outsider16241d 2h ago

I mean if there's 10 million pc gamers out there...getting atleast just 1 million from there is probably a good thing..right?

romulus231d ago

PC players are not a monolith, I don't know why people keep thinking they speak for the entirety of all PC gamers like they all know each other personally. You think out of the millions of PC gamers not one single person will be impatient?Well Sony is willing to bet there will be. Why would they do it now? People's feelings change and new PC gamers come along all the time that may also feel different about waiting, that's why.

Yui_Suzumiya8h ago

Just like how I'm waiting for Alan Wake II to hit Steam 😆

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-Foxtrot1d 20h ago

PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows901d 3h ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

anast1d 2h ago

"Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer."

Right here

Kakashi Hatake1d 3h ago

PC gamers think tomorrow is promised. Sorry, don't have time for that.

Michiel19891d 1h ago

it's not just about loyalty or sunk cost, pc is an open platform while consoles are closed platforms. If you for example want to mod, you will play on pc, no question about it. Also if you like indie games, steam is a fucking goldmine for that. I've been playing a lot of indie games over the last years and there just seems to be an endless amount of them on steam. Also not having games locked to a certain fps is a prettty big deal for me and I assume a lot of other pc players.

Walalon1d ago

And don't forget steam sales, you can get a ton of games on an awesome price.

badz14915h ago

@Walalon

Sony has been doing sales constantly on the PS Store nowadays.

jznrpg11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

@Walalon Steam sales are basically the same as PS sales. I was going to buy a Steam Deck and I heard about these Steam sales but the games I was interested in were not any cheaper. Indie games were cheap and older AAA were cheap but the same can be said for PS store sales. I didn’t end up getting the Steam Deck as there weren’t any games that I wanted to play that wasn’t already on PS and prices aren’t much different

romulus231d ago

And how do you know out of the millions of PC gamers that not one single person ever went ahead and bought a PlayStation console for one or more of those games? People keep speaking for the entirety of millions of PC gamers like they know them all personally. Here's one example for you, I'm currently typing on a recently purchased PC that cost me over twenty five hundred dollars and is more than capable of running any game including Sony exclusives that come to PC and yet I still bought a PS5 so apparently I'm not patient or loyal enough to my set up, hope it's not mad at me for not being loyal.

jznrpg11h ago

Some of those people will consider getting a PS5 some wont. I was a PC gamer for a long time and I’m a console only gamer now. Everyone’s different.

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helicoptergirl1d 20h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan1d 20h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

Amplitude21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Astro Bot is the game that just did it for me. I'm gonna have to grab a PS5 again for that.

I did this for Ratchet Rift Apart too but ended up selling the PS5 after getting my plat. Rebought it on PC and other than GoW Ragnarok and Horizon FW (which eventually I could get anyway), I haven't had a reason to downgrade my graphics, controller features, ease of recording, and increase my game costs and monthly subscriptions throughout this entire generation.

I play on a TV with a controller but this has been the absolute worst console gen for both consoles. Never in my life thought I'd be a PC gamer but I've been spoiled by the cheap costs, cross-platform controllers and mostly the unbelievably useful Steam controller config.

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ARK: Survival Ascended Premium Mods on Consoles Q&A - By 2030, Time Spent on UGC Will Be Way Bigger

ARK: Survival Ascended has introduced Premium Mods on consoles. Wccftech talked to Studio Wildcard and their partner Overwolf about the rising importance of user-generated content, especially for live service games.

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