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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 - First official benchmark shows AMD's GPU beating NVIDIA's GTX1080 FE in DOOM

AMD has revealed the first official benchmark for its new graphics card, the AMD RX Vega 64.

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ARESWARLORD2497d ago

I had a feeling they were going to be beastly and competition is definitely good. I'll be sticking with my GTX 980 TI for the foreseeable future though it's still more than overkill for me.

oasdada2495d ago

Same here sticking with my 1070 for now

MegamanXXX2496d ago

How about in other games lol

freshslicepizza2496d ago

This is true, DOOM does well on AMD cards.

bluefox7552496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Yeah, it's pretty much just Doom. Doom uses the Vulkan API, and AMD cards do incredibly well in Vulkan, considerably better than Nvidia. But the reason you only see AMD talking about Doom is because it's really the only game it can beat Nvidia on with their high end cards.

Avery2497d ago

Very underwhelming and disappointed.
A $600/700, power hungry, water cooled/air cooled Vega has about = performance to a $514 aftermarket GTX 1080.

Anandtech - "what we’ve been told is to expect the Vega 64 to “trade blows” with NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 1080."
Techpowerup - AMD provided some internal performance numbers from their own testing, so as always take these with a grain of salt. These tests were done on an Intel Core i7-7700K at 4.2 GHz, 16 GB of DDR4-3000 MHz RAM and with the latest available drivers for the AMD and NVIDIA GPUs at the time. Refer to the complete slide deck at the end for full testing information, but there was nothing that caught our eye otherwise. The chosen games were all running on DX12 or Vulkan APIs, and the order of the four GPUs being presented is certainly on purpose but looking purely at the numbers and no more it appears that RX Vega 64 trades blows with the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 at stock settings under WQHD (21:9, 1440p)
Hardwarecanucks - There is certainly something you can infer about this situation though; somewhere NVIDIA’s designs skipped a full generation (or more) ahead of AMD. Like the Fiji architecture was obviously meant to compete against Maxwell GPUs only to be released a year later, Vega’s target was Pascal. The only problem is that Pascal has been gracing the GeForce lineup for a long while whereas Radeon users are only getting their first taste of that performance level now. Regardless of how you look at things, AMD is playing catch up and their launch cadence is dropping further behind.

ARESWARLORD2497d ago

Wow man take a breath it'll be okay.

UltraNova2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

If you can take your nvidia goggles off for just a minute you will realise that AMD doesnt have to outright beat them out of the gate, they just need to be price/perfo competitive in order to gain some marketshare back. They do not need to be 20% faster in everything against a 1080 they just need to be fast enough to make GPU and CPU buyers choice between them and Nvidia a real challenge, not a one way street thing, like it has been for the past 5 years; thats what matters to AMD at the time being and thats what's important for both market competition and us the consumers in the end.

With that said, I m fairly certain that AMD is slowly but surely back in the game and I bet anyone nVidia is already feeling the heat.

kevnb2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

You say that as if they aren't losing market share, although luckily for amd crypto miners are buying their cards now.

Weeblordbad2496d ago

Not to mention the market for the low to mid end cards dwarfing the high end market. Who knows how well Vega will stack up against Volta, all they have shown are the workstation cards which as always is a premature inaccurate way to look at a architectures performance.

Avery2496d ago

Quote - http://www.hardwarecanucks....
"I’m going to end this article with a story since I think it is appropriate right now. Back at CES I had the chance to sit down over supper with a long-time ex employee of AMD and RTG. When asked about the long, drawn out release of Vega his simple answer was: There’s two ways to break bad news to someone - either all at once or prepare the person little by little so acceptance comes easier. " - Vega is a bad news story for gamers

TankCrossing2496d ago

$499 card. The baseline Vega 64 was used for the benches, not the liquid cooled or limited edition ones.

Trading blows with the 1080 at a slightly better price (or much better price if you go for one of the bundles and/or freesync monitor) isn't actually a bad place for AMD to be at all. The cut down Vega 56 looks to be in a good place as well.

Angeljuice2496d ago

Check this out:
http://wccftech.com/amd-rad...

Radeon RX Vega beats GTX 1080ti in blind test.

Angeljuice2496d ago

Think again Avery;

The RX Vega beats the GTX 1080ti in a blind test. The setup including
monitor is $300 cheaper, without monitor it's $200 cheaper.

httpwccftech.com/amd-radeon-r x-vega-vs-gtx-1080-ti-blind-tes t/

Avery2496d ago

Wrong - you can take your "Feels per second" and I'll look at Frames Per Second - look up AMD tests - it shows 1080 beats it in more games AMD tested themselves period. Here you go buddy take a close look at factual numbers and not "feels" - https://forums.anandtech.co...

Avery2496d ago

These aren't my quotes - I've listed where they came from - the Tech Press!
It is power hungry and it can't beat a 1080, it trades blows with it and that is right from AMD themselves.
I suggest reading up on it and waiting for reviews, cheers!

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deadfrag2496d ago

Nvidia must be having a celebration after this benches!Then Volta will kill AMD for good at the end of this year.

Asuka2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

i am kinda hoping they put off Volta for a little while to let the yields for HBM2 stabilize so we can see potentially lower prices. Honestly Pascal is still outperforms anything AMD has including Vega. A Pascal refresh with even better efficiency and better OCing would be more than enough to take on anything AMD comes up with for at least another year.

This way Nvidia can release Volta against AMD Navi the following year as both are going to be scalable MCM architecture.

narsaku2496d ago

There is no, "potential", lower prices.

Nvidia charges a premium price because they know their fans will allow them to. And that's it.

Those 1000 dollar graphic cards could be sold for 500 dollars and they'd make a profit. But why not double that over again, right?

babadivad2495d ago

I don't believe they will launch Volta gaming cards this year. The rumored Pascal refresh seems far more likely.

0Day2496d ago

Clap, Clap, Clap.... They always showcase DOOM since its the only better optimized game on AMD hardware.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv721d 13h ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk1d 12h ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21832d ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan1d 23h ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga1d 22h ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--2d ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC2d ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop1d 20h ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto2d ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman2d ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj2d ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble1d 6h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo2d ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

smashman982d ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk2d ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer