Disney is Blocking the X-Men Franchise from Expanding

TICGN: With Marvel vs Capcom Infinite coming soon to modern consoles, one question is baffling fans. "Where are the X-Men?" Disney is blocking the X-Men.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Sad days RIP Xmen

[jrshankill]

Nope. Clickbait article is clickbait.

Explain Spiderman on PS4.The movie franchise is owned by Sony. The argument that Disney doesn't want to promote another company's property is b***s**t.

Stop commenting 2 - 5 word sentences just so your comment appears at the top of every article.

[FunAndGun]

Well, Spider-Man is involved with Disney now correct? Spider-Man is a bad example because the new movie is a joint project with Sony and Disney. The name alone "Homecoming" is a nod that Spidey is back in with Marvel/Disney.

The Fantastic 4 and X-men are definitely promoted less by Marvel. You only have to look at the evidence of this. All projects feature GotG where the X-men would have been. There are plenty of stories about this and I absolutely agree they would rather promote "their" characters over characters that have rights with other companies.

[Chevalier]

That was Sony leveraging how much Disney wanted to have Spidey in the MCU and Disney stands to make over a billion dollars in merchandise sales when the Spiderman launches. Sony is playing ball with Disney and leveraging that to get the exclusive Spiderman game made. Whereas Fox isn't going to play ball at all so Disney will continue to try to kill the Xmen till they do.

[HaikusfromBuddha]

Someone didn't read the article because Spider-Man PS4 is literally discussed in the article.

[shauzy]

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[Relientk77]

You suck Disney

X-Men are awesome

[FarEastOrient]

Disney is trying to get full rights back for X-Men and Fantastic Four. Fox isn't playing ball, so they sabotage the properties. It's the same situation in Orlando.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

Disney has full rights of TV, comics and video games, it's not like they had nothing to work with. Hey, both companies had the movie rights to Quicksilver and I'll take Fox's any day of the week.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Disney should never get control of X-Men. They're not suited to the more serious themes and they'd limit the direction the franchise could take. They would have slaughtered Logan and Deadpool with awful sitcom jokes, poor action and a PG-13 rating. There'd completely butcher a character like Magneto - no way would they allow a scene of a concentration camp. Josh Whedon would probably try make a crappy joke about the conditioning if he had to include it.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I would trade a few jokes for X-Men The Last Stand, XMen Apocalypse, X-Men Origins Wolverine, and all Fantastic Four movies to not exist. At least Marvel knows who their characters actually are. And Joss Whedon hasn't been around for some time.

[DarXyde]

Oh yes, because FOX has done such an incredible job with X-Men prior to Logan and Deadpool. /s

Here's the thing: Logan was great, but it felt heavily inspired by another success called The Last of Us. You should curb any expectations you have for Deadpool 2 too . The first was an origin story told largely through flashbacks. How they intend to move the story on the sequel will be interesting to watch. I hope.

And it's funny you concern yourself with character portrayals with the MCU. FOX absolutely butchered Doom, who is easily among (if not, THE best) villain in the Marvel universe. They have NEVER portrayed the character well.

Lastly, the need for an R rating should tell you that those movies have no chance without being edgy and taking liberties. I would say the MCU does very well without it. I would say that if MCU actually needed to use an R rating to make a movie good, it'd be limited to X- force. But because FOX is being difficult, we don't have any hope of a Doom War movie series OR to even have Deadpool and Thanos fighting over Death.

FOX had 2 great movies in the last few years. I think they should just play ball.

[RommyReigns]

@KwietStorm

Joss Whedon is currently working on Justice League after Zack Snyder had to step down late in production because of a death in his family.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

@KwietStorm

Hhhmm, almost the only reason there's a MCU is because of Fox. Prior to the first X-Men, comic book movies were a joke. Did they have a few misses? Sure. But let's not act like all MCU movies are awesome.

[thatguyhayat]

Id love to see avengers vs xmen movie. But FOX will be FOX

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

@DarXyde
Dude, stop. Are you going to casually insult the The Dark Knight as well? It's not about being "edgy". It's about having to create something that isn't allowed to have themes and messages that are too hard for kids to handle and being forced to not show what is actually happening in a fight (in a way that is oftentimes laughable - Wolverine has claws I mean c'mon). PG-13 is a plague upon the movie industry and shouldn't be defended. Many comic books would rise about that ratings-wise so this should be represented in cinema as well. Spiderman doesn't need an R rating but Logan and Deadpool did.

@KwietStorm
True, some of their movies have missed the mark (under different leadership around 10 years ago) but are we just going to ignore X-Men 1, X-Men 2, The Wolverine, X-Men: First Class and X-Men Days of Future Past? Out of their last 5 or 6 X-Men movies (I'll admit, they fucked up F4 again), the only disappointment was Apocalypse and overall they've done a great job. They set the groundwork for the whole genre (in terms of cinema) along with the Raimi's Spiderman movies. Apocalypse and Last Stand are better than the Thor movies, Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk. Marvel has definitely been more consistent and their movies have never been as bad as Origins or The Fantastic Four movies but in my opinion their movies never reached the same heights either.

Besides, guys - how would they even integrate X-Men and a civil rights movement of that scale into the current Marvel Universe? It's a bit too late. We'd have to wait until they reboot the MCU anyway.

[ShadowWolf712]

This. Isn't. Disney.
Marvel Entertainment sets their own policies regarding their characters, and Marvel Games has said that anyone with the license is free to use any character they choose.

Besides which: this is citing a years-old policy. The X-Men books have since been revitalized and pushed quite a bit.

It's Capcom that opted not to use them as they want to leverage the MCU.

[ShadowWolf712]

Ike Perlmutter runs Marvel Entertainment, which includes Marvel Comics and Marvel Games. He ran it before the buyout and he runs it now. Same with Lucasfilm. Kathleen Kennedy ran it before, she runs it now. They operate independently of Disney in the same way PlayStation operates independently of Sony.

That's how they operate.

[admiralvic]

Honestly, you can tell this is not true by simply looking at the roster of Marvel vs Capcom games.

The first game had standard and somewhat popular characters, with the second game having tons of off the wall characters. By the time the third game came out, Disney only had some control over Marvel (hard to say because of development times, taking over the company and so forth), but there was only a slight lean towards upcoming movies. We still had weird characters like Shuma Groath, M.O.D.O.K, Dormammu, Super-Skrull and Taskmaster. Now you look at it after Disney took control and it leans, heavily, towards established characters and upcoming movies.

I don't believe for a second Capcom choose Black Panther or Captain Marvel, especially when X-Men has been a bit part of every MvC game and even the previous MvSF and X-Men vs. SF. Not to mention, so many people want to point out how cheap/lazy Capcom is, so I can't imagine they wouldn't want to include Wolverine, a character that has been in all these games, if it was up to them.

Finally, even if the same person is in charge and they have relative control/policies, the people above them are calling the shots. Take PlayStation, they likely took the bluray route with the PlayStation 3 because Sony wanted to push their bluray product. Even if PlayStation can make choices independent of Sony, like create a game, Sony itself will still say things like "make a product that helps push 4K" or other such things.

[3-4-5]

I thought Fox owned the rights to X-men

[InKnight7s]

I think because X men is so big. Look at movies no story is done at all and there is alot left to do and explain.

[Double_O_Revan]

While I fully agree X-men would be better off back in the hands of Marvel over Fox, Disney is just being bitter and fighting dirty.

[Sam Fisher]

The way i see it is fox is the scumy ones, why couldnt they make deal on having these on common ground for both companies

[Gamble20]

I can understand both sides. Fox wants a big franchise and they paid good money (albeit a very long time ago) to license X-Men. At the same time, it’s not really fair to Disney to be tied into contracts that give film rights to opposing studios in virtual perpetuity (assuming the studio keeps making movies). Disney’s only hope is that Fox simply doesn’t make enough money on the franchise anymore to put up with it, or at the least that they find themselves in a situation where they need Marvel to help generate excitement in them again like Sony has had to do for Spidey. There’s no way Marvel will create new X-men characters and give Fox more material.

[CorndogBurglar]

Why would they? Their X-Men movies make a lot of money as it is. They don't need Marvel/Disney.

Marvel are the ones that sold the movie rights to their own characters. Now to limit the use of fan favorite characters in other media, because of their own mistake, is just hurting their fans. Plain and simple.

[CorndogBurglar]

@Gamble20

Fox have proven with the Fantastic 4 that they are willing to keeo trying new films even with a failing franchise. F4 has been one disappointment after another. They rebooted once. The reboot sucked even worse than the first ones. And now there is rumor that they are going to try an animated, Incredibles style F4 movie.

You can hardly blame them though. Its the golden age of comic book movies. All film trends eventually die out. It only takes one good movie to make a ton of money and launch a new series. Might as well keep trying while the time right, because eventually comic book films will start making less money. Then they will let the rights revert to Marvel.

[Gamble20]

@Condog

You’re right - but they have allowed some licenses to lapse if they just couldn’t find a way to profit from the franchise. Daredevil is a good example. I wouldn’t be surprised if Fox gives up on F4 as the property is already on the clock in a few years and audiences have lost interest. The animated idea is probably the last shot. X-Men however will be a Fox property for a very very long time.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

To be fair to Fox, while they've interfered and ruined some movies, they generally give the directors way more freedom. Logan and Deadpool are the best comic book movies of the last few years and are far better than the average MCU movie. They simply would not be possible with Disney at helm (imagine PG Deadpool - shudders). First Class and Days Of Future Past were also REALLY well done and perfectly explored the dynamic between Magneto and Professor X. This is all because they let the directors have their own shot at it. It's probably also why Apocalypse wasn't great but overall I'm far happier with them in control of the X-Men.

[RommyReigns]

I find the main X Men movies enjoyable, but some aspects are annoying like the way Mystique leading the X Men into battle has been shoehorned in and makes the rest of the awesome X Men like Cyclops and the Beast become like lackeys (seriously though, it's like the only reason that has happened is because Mystique is being played by that egomaniac Jennifer Lawrence), and also where are other awesome characters like Gambit and Sabretooth? (I know Gambit has that movie coming up apparently being played by Channing Tatum (lmfao), but Gambit in the X Men cartoons was fricking awesome and should have been part of the main team from the get go)

[ShadowWolf712]

This isn't a Disney policy.

Why do people seem to thing Bob Iger sits there micromanaging every subsidiary?

[KwietStorm_BLM]

It's always easier for people to go with a scapegoat. Thinking is hard.

[aaronaton]

You can't call them the 'X-men' anymore, its the 'X-people'.

[Sam Fisher]

Yea, sjw would swarm you in a heartbeat lmao 😂

[FunAndGun]

That was pretty good!

[Bobafret]

As long as Fox is going to squat on the Xmen franchise for movies why should Disney budge on their rights?

[CrimsonWing69]

Thanks Disney, way to be douchebags

[2cents]

What a mess.

[Moe-Gunz]

Don't care what the reason is, Wolverine is one of my main characters. If the X-men isn't in it, no buy from me.

[lodossrage]

All of this is because Disney is trying to do everything they can do devalue both the X-men and the Fantastic Four in order to make FOX give up the rights to those franchises.

And it's not just video games, it's happening in all forms of media. In the comics, Fantastic Four has been canceled and the X-men characters are slowly getting killed off and no new mutant characters are being made. Right now, Marvel is trying to raise the stock of the Inhumans to fill the X-men void.

Smart money says if FOX came out right now and gave marvel back the rights to the franchises, a new Fantastic Four comic series would be announced and created within that same year and the X-men would stock being dismantled in the comics.

[ShadowWolf712]

Is that why they have multiple X-Men comics now?

Article uses outdated policies set by MARVEL, not Disney, and people swallow it.

[lodossrage]

Just because they have multiple comics out now doesn't mean the X-men haven't been devalued.

Over the years, Marvel has made a point to kill off the most popular X-men. I don't need this article to tell me facts I've seen over the years as a buyer of comics.

The fact is devalued or not, the X-men brand is worth money. So yeah, they'll make new comics of it to keep the gravy train coming. But don't deluded yourself into thinking they aren't devalued.

Why do you think Marvel is suddenly pushing the Inhumans so hard? It's them trying to put the Inhumans in the spot of the X-men. The ONLY reason the Fantastic Four hasn't had more comics being made despite the FOX situation is because the franchise isn't as popular as the X-men.

[ShadowWolf712]

Thing is, that policy has been heavily reversed. There are more comics coming. New characters coming. The Inhumans are getting a push because they're getting a TV show, yes, but the idea that the property is actively being retarded by "Disney" (when again, this was a decision by Marvel execs like Tom Brevoort and Joe Quesada) is silly to suggest literally as it's being reversed.

[lodossrage]

If that policy is truly reversed, we'll see how that pans out in no later than 3 months. Because right now, I'm buying these books and I'm not seeing it.

And as for the Disney making Marvel "retard" brands like X-men or FF, Disney IS that petty to push Marvel into doing that. But as I said, if these policies are reversed, the proof will be in the pudding soon enough.

Because I look at characters like say, Inferno or Mosaic (especially Mosaic). In times past at Marvel, those two characters would have been classified as mutants rather than inhumans. Hell, they even revamped Daisy's storyline from being a mutant to being an Inhuman just to keep the character in the limelight.

To be fair, I HOPE what you say is true. But their actions have to prove it.

Edit- now that I think about it, there is one glaring issue in all this that nobody seems to be touching in this Marvel vs Capcom Infinite stuff. Where the hell is Spider-Man??? Maybe I missed them announcing him or something because him not being in the game is a glaring omission unless I just missed it

[ShadowWolf712]

1. Disney doesn't run Marvel. Marvel runs itself. Independently.
2. This is also complete speculation. Marvel Games outright said these studios they license to can use any of their characters any way they see fit.

[lodossrage]

1. I agree and disagree at the same time. True, Marvel runs independently. But that doesn't mean Disney doesn't have oversight over them.

2. I personally think if that speculation was true, this whole thing would be a non issue and some of the X-men would have been in this game.

[ShadowWolf712]

Not if Capcom decides they want to capitalize off the MCU. And again: Marvel Games has stipulated, many, many times, that their licensees can do as they like with the characters of their choosing within a realistic degree. The speculation is that "Disney" somehow said no. They did not. Were the other speculation true, and people were required to focus on the versions of characters Marvel has films of, the new Spider-Man game would be heavily influenced by the upcoming film. It's not. Completely original universe.

And again, Marvel's BEEN bringing the X-Men back for a good while now. There are multiple X-Men Books. X-Men: Gold. X-Men: Blue. Weapon X. Astonishing X-Men is returning next month.

Kinda odd considering Disney wants to kill the franchise, no?

[SuperbVillain]

i always hoped for a movie with more of the 90's vision with wolverine in that yellow suit

[gangsta_red]

It's not just Disney, even Marvel with their comics are downplaying FF and X-men. If I'm correct Marvel comics has disbanded and canceled the FF comic and even broke apart the X-Men and killed off Wolverine.

They don't want to promote FF or X-Men because of Fox. Marvel comics are pushing more of the Avengers universe than the X-men/FF world.

[ShadowWolf712]

You ain't current then, son. There's two X-Men books, Astonishing X-Men returns next month, Ben Grimm is coming back, potentially with the Richards family as well.

Ever since Marvel Entertainment lost control of Marvel Studios (and thus their profits aren't lumped together on earnings reports) the comics have stood to gain nothing by damaging those brands to gain film rights back and the decision to do so has been being reversed.

[gangsta_red]

"You ain't current then, son."

I'm actually not :(

[PhoenixUp]

X-Men and Fantastic Four characters were some of this franchise's best and most iconic fighters

[Enigma_2099]

From the article:
"Fox has no desire to let Marvel retain the rights to the X-Men and the Fantastic Four."

And you're only blaming Disney?

[ScreenCritics]

How is this news? This has been known to all Marvel fans for a few years now.

It's why they've been cutting back the X-Men comics.

[FallenAngel1984]

There are X-Men and Fantastic Four characters in that mobile Marvel fighting game, but they can't put them in the premier fighting game on consoles and PC.

Some skewed priorities man. Characters from those franchises greatly contributed to the popularity of this franchise, via both the casual players and the hardcore players who attend EVO.
It'd be a huge disservice to neglect them in one game while still supporting them in another.