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Is it possible to build a PC under $500 with the same specs as an Xbox One X?

Under the hood, an Xbox One X is a collection of PC hardware. We dig into current component prices to see if we can build a $500 system that matches (or beats) its performance.

tinynuggins2538d ago

This is really interesting. The vapor cooling system is missing from the list though. Wonder how much that piece costs.

ukjadoon2537d ago

The builds are also missing a WiFi card and that adds to the cost even more.

MegamanXXX2537d ago (Edited 2537d ago )

Another thing you have to consider you don't pay for online on PC that saves hundreds of dollars. You get great deals and mod support on PC. True native 4K 60fps on PC. It has more perks even though it's more expensive. PC actually have more exclusives than Xbox as well.

ForeverTheGoat2537d ago

@MegamanXXX
This topic is about specs for PC at the same price as the one x. The other stuff you talking about is irrelevant rn.

ABizzel12537d ago

I think the XBO-X is a good piece of hardware for a console, but the reality is by the time it launches you will likely be able to get any of the following better values.

$199 PS4s / XBOs
$349 PS4 Pro
$500 Gaming PC with comparable specs to XBO-X

And all 4 are better values when it comes to price:performance.

The computer in this article is pretty much a PC Partpicker list, and that site while a good starting point is never the lowest price when stores like Newegg and Microcenter around. Come Black Friday all of those components will be cheaper especially last gen GPUs with Vega and Pascal coming out. So deals like a GTX 1060 6GB for $179 - $199 bundled with games is extremely likely. And that CPU / motherboard combo can be bought for less at Microcenter.

And there are components like a BluRay drive that are completely unnecessary for a PC where installs are king.

Babadook72537d ago (Edited 2537d ago )

"Another thing you have to consider you don't pay for online on PC that saves hundreds of dollars."

@MegamanXXX

People always mention you don't pay for online. But they forget you pay more for games. Due to the fact you need to buy digital and therefore can't buy used and sell used. In the end that makes you pay a LOT more for the same thing. You also can't borrow from friends or rent.

Skull5212537d ago

Just what I thought, it costs roughly double. The only thing here is it doesn't look like these computers were built and benchmarked. We know the XBOX can do 4K30 Gears 4 so we need people to start targeting that with the builds and see what happens.

StoneyYoshi2536d ago

@Babadook7

"Due to the fact you need to buy digital and therefore can't buy used and sell used. In the end that makes you pay a LOT more for the same thing. You also can't borrow from friends or rent."

While i agree with you on not being able to buy used games or ever resell them. The rest isn't all too accurate. The fact that everything is digital actually helps games become cheaper faster than any digital store on the ps4 or xbox. And there are websites like G2A where you can get new games at a discounted price. Ive even gotten games pre-ordered on that site for 10 bucks off the day before its released.

Id also like to add that you are able to share games with friends on steam (to an extent of course). Its called family view and it allows your friends (after you authorize their computer and account) to play your games. Granted as long as you aren't playing a game online on steam.

As a PC gamer and a PS4 player, Its always been cheaper to game on my PC. This is my own opinion and experience.

Babadook72536d ago (Edited 2536d ago )

@dontbhatin

Even when you get a new game for $10 online it is more than the price of buying and selling used games (discs). And that $10 price is not a normal situation as steam and gmg usually are much more in the first month of sale. In any given year you will save a lot of money buying and selling discs vs looking for digital sales. If you compare digital to digital of course you are right. But my comparison was not digital vs digital but digital vs used discs. Even when a game is under a month old you can save $10-$20 off of new price by buying used on amazon or eBay or local buy and sell. Then sell for the exact price you had paid. That cost of ownership can't be beat on pc.

morganfell2536d ago

"This topic is about specs for PC at the same price as the one x. The other stuff you talking about is irrelevant rn."

No it isn't. Do you buy a console and come home and sit it in the corner, never turning it on? No? Let me guess, you do not play multiplayer? Purchase of a PS4 or X1 must carry with it the consideration of monthly/yearly online costs for a minimum of 3 years. Longer if it is the beginning of the generation.

thexmanone2536d ago

And also missing monitor, keyboard and mouse. add that too the cost as well

nveenio2536d ago

I'm waiting for the actual system breakdown when XBOX releases. Microsoft has a track record of being sneaky, and I still think most devs are going to target improvements other than resolution, because resolution isn't what gives a game most of its "wow" factor.

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Destiny10802537d ago

pc have a separate cpu and gpu so don't need vapor cooling to keep things cool even though some high-end gpus have them

freshslicepizza2536d ago

One thing people forget is how the console is designed, most PC games actually just use one core on the CPU. The cores on game platforms are utilized a lot more efficiently. This means comparing each CPU is redundant. Games are getting better on the PC like Battlefield but as we move forward with Ryzen hopefully PC developers start utilzing the cores more.

Bigpappy2536d ago

Forget the specs. Get the PC running the games at the same performance for under $500 and I will skip the X1X and buy one instead.

ABizzel12536d ago

CPU & Motherboard $110 http://www.microcenter.com/...
FX 8320 + Asus M5A78L-M Plus

GPU $250: https://www.newegg.com/Prod...
GTX 1060 6GB

HDD $40: https://www.newegg.com/Prod...
Seagate 1 TB

Optical Drive: $15 (DVD) / $40 (Blu Ray) / $130 (4K BR same from article)
RAM $45: Same from the article
PSU $35: Same from the article
Case $35: Same from the article
OS $35: Same from the article

$565 / $590 / $680

For $565 you get a gaming PC right now that performs every bit as well if not better than the XBO-X, and come Black Friday while the XBO-X is launching at $500, those PC components will be even less.

1080p @ 4K performance (the beauty is if you want 60fps you can get it, you're not stuck at 4k @ 30fps)
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

dantesparda2536d ago

Oh you mean the same way a i3 4130 and a gtx 750ti was outperforming the PS4 and X1 at alot of games early on for the longest time? Some of you people are such fools falling for anything your beloved corporate masters say. This $652 PC will already outperform a 1X in many games, WATCH! And you everybodies knows you can get Windows for free and you dont need the the bluray drive on the PC, its just a waste of money, so that saves another $75

AS:O is dynamic and CB 4k on both (so much for "true 4k", just another of MS's failed propaganda PR campaigns, like the cloud, DX12, ESRAM, etc). Metro Exodus wasnt even running on the 1X, GOW4, Crackdown & NFS are all just 30fps and so on, this thing is hardly more impressive than a Pro, only more expensive, a year later and less exclusives.

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ABizzel12531d ago

@SirJoJo

Since you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and like Digital Foundry so much, here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Yes an overclocked "GTX 970" (which performs on par with a standard clocked GTX 1060 or 980), is running Forza Horizon 3 in 4K @ 30fps locked High settings and Forza 6 APex 4K @ 60fps locked High settings.

Now an overclocked GTX 1060 is pushing into the same performance realm as a standard clocked GTX 1070 or 980 ti, which can run both games in 4K @ 30fps Ultra settings and 4K @ 60fps Ultra settings.

And as you also provided a RX 580 is also another option for that same PC.

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da1writer2536d ago (Edited 2536d ago )

I really recommend many to check out jermgaming, he built a $500 rig that can go toe to toe with the Pro and Xbox One X just fine and hit 4K with similar compromises on some games as these Mid-Gen upgraded Consoles do.

You'd be surprised.
https://www.youtube.com/use...

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da1writer2536d ago

Despite the thumbs down, I'm not trying to pick on Consoles nor is jermgaming. We are perfectly fine with both markets, console and PC, being available to the consumer and coexisting. Tastes and preferences differ from us all. Now jermgaming just wants to show anyone who checks out his channel that for the price of a budget build in the $500 range can provide results similar to the console counterparts with either similar results or better. A thumbs down is a head scratcher to me for my last comment. I own Consoles, handhelds, and a good PC, I simply play games, not the devices themselves [nor do I worship them]. That's why I can't stand Death and a few others fanboys here, they know little about these devices outside of what their dumb console war means to them.

dantesparda2536d ago

@da1writer

They dont want to know the truth, they rather believe their own s**t.

spoonard2536d ago

The vapor cooler, the UHD drive, the wifi card... this isn't a PC with the same specs as the One X. Nor does it include a keyboard/mouse or an Xbox controller. Put the Assassin's Creed game shown at E3 on this PC vs it running on an Xbox One X and the Xbox would blow it out of the water.

svoulis2536d ago

Oh boy. @tinynuggins I hope you're being sarcastic. "Vapor Cooling" has been around a lot longer for PC's than the Xbox One X...This is a joke right?

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Lennoxb632537d ago

You'd be lucky to hit 1080p on AAA titles on a $500 PC.

Princess_Pilfer2537d ago (Edited 2537d ago )

No, no you wouldn't. People are big on using TFLOPS as a buzzword without actually knowing what it means right? The build they list used a RX 580 which has... 6.2. About the same as the Xbone. Course they could save ~40 dollars with a 1060 or a good 70 if they picked up a used 970, which have similar performance.

_-EDMIX-_2536d ago

@Princ- ??? 😂😂😂.

Are you serious? You will literally just said the exact same thing I said and then you attacked me?

"No you wouldn't"

Is exactly what I said for the exact same response did you seriously not read the original poster was and you just randomly replied to me without knowing whom I was talking to?

"No, no you wouldn't. People are big on using TFLOPS as a buzzword without actually knowing what it means right?"

I'm literally agreeing with you and literally started my sentence the same way in agreeance that no it would not be "lucky" because it is not a rare occurrence yet you don't even understand that the post was agreeing?

Smh

Look you guys need to stop with the shotgun post and jumping to ridiculous conclusions without understanding the context of what's being stated.

Wow.

Relax. I agree, as to why I literally just said the same thing you did.

"No you wouldn't"

kevnb2537d ago

1080p for $500 is doable.

Lennoxb632537d ago

With everything at low settings with a stuttering frame rate, sure.

Princess_Pilfer2537d ago

AMD and Nvidia market the 1060 and 480/580 as 1080p cards. That's what they're for. With very few exceptions, they will do 1080p at 60FPS with either high or ultra settings (or a combination of high and ultra settings)

OoglyBoogly2536d ago

The FACT that his comment has way more upvotes then downvotes really goes to show how people here don't know actual PC hardware and performance. Let alone what you can get for the price.

bluefox7552536d ago

1080p is doable at less than $300 lol.

fathertime44642536d ago

$1200 laptop owner, 6months old with 16GB of dd44 can't run Forza at 1080p 60fps.
However I didn't build it so there's that too

_-EDMIX-_2536d ago

It is, but like many are saying, clearly settings must be changed to run that smoothly or at great quality.

I mean...sure you can game on low settings,but I Think many mean 1080p, high settings, 60fps minimum etc

I think many on here need to be more clear on what they mean, as you wouldn't buy a PC from someone that ONLY told you "It plays games at 1080p"

ie WHAT GAMES? Minecraft? lol ONLY 1080p? At what settings? If you'd ask those, then clearly I feel we all need more info given when stating what is doable and how.

badz1492536d ago

doable? more like VERY doable! where have you fanboys been all these times? RX480, GTX1060 and the newer RX580 easily ace that 1080p60fps category. these are $250 range cards.

Princess_Pilfer2536d ago

Yeah, you don't get to use a Laptop for comparison. Laptop CPUs and GPUs are garbage for gaming. They basically have to be or they'll run into major heat problems in such a confined space (not to mention destroy their battery life.)

Saying your $1200 laptop can't do 1080p and using that as your comparison for PCs in general is like saying your $60,000 Bently cant do 200mph so neither can that $60,000 Corvette. Well obviously it can't, it's not really supposed to.

Princess_Pilfer2536d ago (Edited 2536d ago )

@Edmix
Battlefield 1
Fallout 4
GTA 5
The Witcher 3
Hitman
Just Cause 3
Tom Clancy's The Division
Assassin's Creed Unity
Sniper Elite 4
Rise of the Tomb Raider
DOOM
Forza Horizon 3
FIFA 17

They all run a 60 FPS somewhere betwen medium and ultra settings, with the most intense areas in the most intense games dropping the average no lower than 45 fps.

It's also worth noting, console versions of games almost never run at ultra settings, usually running somewhere between medium and high, which you can see in any number of comparison videos between the PC and console versions on youtube.

(video proof of those game running on that system)
https://youtu.be/KFsrSCVgbC...

Also, as a side note, yes that will play games at 4k/30. I think they'd look better at 1080p or `1440p with higher settings and I think they'd play better at 60 FPS so that's probably not what I'd want to do, but it can. Feel the same way about the PS4 Pro and Xbone X to be honest, too many compromises necessary to get things running at 4k. Just look at the difference in quality in the shadows and enviromental textures/models between the 4k/30 and 1080/30 versions of Tomb Raider on the PS4 Pro to see why.

rainslacker2536d ago (Edited 2536d ago )

I have a 9800GTX. It's a 7 year old card. It can do 1080p.

Maybe not with all the bells and whistles, but you can probably find one for $30-50 if they even still have them out in the wild. It was only recently that the minimum requirements for games surpassed this card, and many new games still have lower requirements.

While I don't game much, I don't really have frame rate problems on the games I do play.

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OoglyBoogly2536d ago (Edited 2536d ago )

Bullshit. I had a SINGLE 290X in my system for a while (which you can get used for ~$150) and it could do even 4K just fine! Maybe not all setting maxed at 60fps, mind you, but I know I played the like of The Division at 4K with a mix of medium (mainly shadows)/high/max settings and kept a very solid and playable 30fps V-Synced.

So yeah, 1080p for $500? Definitely. 1440p at $500? For sure. 4K at $500? Possible.

Hell, even the likes of the coming on 6 year old AMD 7970 still keeps up at 1080p no problem:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Those are even cheaper than the 290/290X. So yeah, 1080p is doable just fine at $500.

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Princess_Pilfer2536d ago

@Cupofjoe
Here is a 970 doing 4k/30 in GTA 5
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Here is an RX 480 playing DOOM at 4k/30
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

bluefox7552536d ago (Edited 2536d ago )

That's just incorrect. You obviously don't game on PC. This PC build in the article will run basically every modern AAA game at 4k, most probably at just around 30-40fps, but the less demanding ones can go up to 60 or more.

_-EDMIX-_2536d ago

lol.

No you wouldn't. You can run 1080p on lots of PC's with AAA games, simply not at great frames, but I think I know what you mean.

Princess_Pilfer2536d ago

https://youtu.be/KFsrSCVgbC...

actually yeah, at 60 fps mostly, and typically at high/ultra settings.

_-EDMIX-_2536d ago

@Princ-this was the specific comment I was replying to

"You'd be lucky to hit 1080p on AAA titles on a $500 PC"

My comment is specifically saying that lots of PC at that price point can basically play a game at 1080p especially if you're essentially ignoring every other setting. Like all. Because of how modular PC is it is very difficult to make blanket statements like somebody would be "lucky" to get 1080p because 1080p varies based on user settings.

Princess_Pilfer2536d ago

Yeah, I don't believe you. I've seen your comments in other places, and think you're backpedaling because I posted proof.

_-EDMIX-_2536d ago

@prin-??? What do you mean backpedaling? I'm agreeing with your point I'm telling the comment that I'm commenting on that you wouldn't to be "lucky to" that is a normal thing to be able to run 1080p. On such a setup.

My comment is saying no you would not be lucky because it is not a rare thing reread what I'm saying to understand what I mean.

I'm actually agreeing with you I was never in any way shape or form disagreeing that such a thing was not possible.

I mean literally my next statement is you could run 1080p on lots of Triple A games.....

I own a gaming PC.

Lol

I think you greatly misunderstood what I was actually saying and I think you need to look at the original posters comment to get what I'm trying to say.

I'm basically disagreeing with the Rarity of systems being able to run 1080p your list does nothing but agree and confirm that 1080p is not a rare occurrence. ie it's not lucky.

I'm not saying no you wouldn't be able to I'm saying no you wanted to be "lucky"

Lol

I mean my other comment even explains to you what I'm even referring to by that comment.

Why would I say it's not feasible to do such a thing at 1080p only to go on to state that multiple games do that at 1080p?

"No you wouldn't" is referring to it being lucky ie it's not, it is the norm.

Once again just to clarify I 100% agree with you.

Read the original posters comment to actually piece together what is being stated because I think you're greatly reading that comment out of context.

Again.... I own a gaming PC my steam ID is Edmix_the_Shogun.

There's no reason to be combative especially when you actually read my comments specifically stating that it is not a rare thing.

I think you guys jump the gun on here way too much 😂😂😂

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Domovoi0ng2536d ago

32 console plebs, 12 gamers that know facts.

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EatCrow2537d ago

Easier if you go AMD instead of Intel.

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Relientk771d 7h ago

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 18h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit3d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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