Is Rare's Sea of Thieves Further Away Than We Thought?

The latest developer update suggests that Rare's online shared world pirate game Sea of Thieves is still far from reaching the coveted land, with the studio heavily working on the NPCs system.

A delay into 2018 seems like a concrete possibility at this point.

[ShadowKnight]

Not surprise if true. I don't think Crackdown 3 will release this year either

[Festano]

Me neither but Phil better have other exclusives in his pocket

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

His pockets have holes in them

[Concertoine]

If either of these games are delayed, i will probably not get future xbox hardware.

There is no excuse for software revealed in 2014 being delayed 2-3 years from when they were promised into 2018.

[KenichiEbina]

I truly hope phil has more hidden exclusives so that when he cancels the next one, he could again say that it's good for xbox gamers.

[Critic4l_Strik3]

hes got the Scorpio, which is something...*insert sarcasm*

[KillBill]

@Concertoine - I would assume then that you would not be getting any future PS hardware either seeing Sony does the exact same thing.

[Utalkin2me]

@KillBill

By all means please list me all of games that was showed during E3 as console exclusives, to try to get people to purchase said console only to cancel games. I can think of only one game. Also, Sony keeps feeding out original exclusives and puts out way more then what MS does. Youre playing what Halo Wars 2 and 2 remastered games so far this year....Sounds like a launch lineup if you ask me and its on year 3.

No reason to defend, people with a half a brain knows Sony puts out way more exclusives then MS and always had. Sony allows for creativity and original content. While MS normally buys deals and makes the big 3 over and over, sprinkled in with some new games.

[krypt1983]

@concertoine so half of sonys game get delayed for up to 10yrs what's your point, its always to delay a good game then to ship a bad game remember that!

@talkin2m3 i hardly doubt microsoft think this game is going to be a system seller and plenty of sony games got delayed, tlou,hzd,tlg list goes on, you realize sony has been in the console buisness way longer they should have more studios, only game sony launched this year has been hzd everything else is 3rd party console exclusive and japenese, it facts that the Japanese culture takes pride and only supports japenese products anything else is niche to them unless its a iphone, so no matter how great the xbox is you wouldn't see them games on xbox. You just show how petty and immature the ps community is you obviously have no interest in xbox or ses of thieves your only in here to repeat the xbox has no games cliché ponies wasn't saying that the first 3years when they didn't have games it was all resolution and power next .

[Gibreel87]

@krypt1983
"only game sony launched this year has been hzd everything else is 3rd party console exclusive and japenese"

-Gravity rush 2 devolped and published by Sony interactive entertainment (PS4 exlusive) MC 80
-Ni Oh published by Sony interactive entertainment(in the west)(ps4 exclusive) MC 88
-Horizon zero dawn developed and published by Sony interactive entertainment (PS4 exclusive) MC 89
- MLB the show 17 developed and published by Sony interactive (PS4 exclusive) MC 85
- Drawn to death published by Sony interactive (PS4 exclusive) MC 54

Sony published and/or developed games with confirmed dates in 2017
-wipeout omega collection. (June)
-Uncharted lost lagacy (August)
-Everybody's Golf (August)

What I'm trying to say... You are wrong.

[Liqu1d]

Crackdown has to release, they can't afford to delay it anymore.

[Alexious]

Yeah, I think Crackdown 3 will definitely release this year. They also teased new info coming soon via Twitter

[morganfell]

I don't think it is coming this year. A beta maybe but the game seems unlikely. When Scalebound was canceled it was the time for MS to show something they had in their pocket in order to restore the faith of the disappointed. Anything. Small games get a trailer and a release 6 months later. A major AAA title shows gameplay and releases within 6 months? Seems unlikely. It could happen, but the fact they did nothing to alleviate the Scalebound disappointment shows that either titles aren't shipping this year or MS just simply has very little to show and are having to sit on any titles due this year.

[rainslacker]

If the full game isn't ready, which is possible given how little we've seen of it, then I expect them to release something. A beta or something like a prologue in the GT vein.

MS just can't rely on Forza this holiday, and I doubt SoT...assuming it's still slated for this year...is going to drive console sales to the point of making a difference.

So unless they have some big IP behind the curtains, CD3 will get something this year.

[LordJamar]

yes they can i dont want a broken unfinished game

[Kribwalker]

I'm in the alpha and it's extremely polished and they have now moved into weekly testing from once a month (every Wednesday) and are about to up the big test they have done on Saturdays, which was once every month or two where they add players and more things to the game to an extra 30,000 players (putting it close to 60,000 players in it at one time) that will be in the alpha now. It's further along then this man is suggesting

[Alexious]

Really? It sounds like they just added basic NPCs support and they're working to make it a lot more complex.

I don't think they're releasing before they have that. Maybe there'll be a beta in late 2017, but a full release seems doubtful.

[WeAreLegion]

Thanks for the info. How is it?

[Kribwalker]

@legion
I've had a lot of fun. The real key is to have a team of people with headsets, its way better that way, but it's really a lot of fun. I had this rare chest from one island and we were trying to get it back to the mainland when we got jumped by 2 ships of guys and had a 3 ship open sea battle going when one guy from another ship swam to ours while we were on the cannons and took us out and stole the treasure lol....definitely a great teamwork game

[LordJamar]

why did you get down votes lmao??

[freshslicepizza]

@ShadowKnight
"Not surprise if true. I don't think Crackdown 3 will release this year either"

are you going to get them if they do come this year?

[ShadowKnight]

On PC but I'm more interested in Crackdown though

[freshslicepizza]

@ShadowKnight
"On PC but I'm more interested in Crackdown though"

good, i look forward to you actually talking about the games

[Fist4achin]

It just keeps drifting away!

I really hope it doesn't go the way of scalebound. I'm really upset about Xbox one's game lineup.

[MoonConquistador]

So are MS. Just that you can't do anything about it. They can but it would appear that they choose not to address it.

[LordJamar]

my god stop with the scalebound crap

[LackTrue4K]

Wouldn't be surprise of these games got canceled too.

[mark_parch]

there is no way these games are getting cancelled. trust me. i'm in the sea of thieves alpha and they could easily have a game ready for release later this year and then keep adding to it like minecraft for example but i hope they just bring it out in 2018 when it's a complete game

[XanderZane]

Very doubtful. Sea of Thieves being more of a MMO, they could still get it released at the end of the year and steadily add more content to it throughout 2018 and beyond. I think Crackdown 3 is further along then people think. That game will probably launch with the Scorpio.

[dumahim]

@mark_parch
I bet people thought the same thing about Fable Legends.

[mark_parch]

i'm pretty confident we will see crackdown 3 this year but no chance of sea of thieves

[Mystogan]

Nah, I see no reason why Crackdown 3 won't be released this year.
They haven't shown much, but from what we've seen the core Crackdown gameplay was already there.
It was probably delayed because of server structure I'm guessing. They need everything to work on day one.

sea of thieves on the other hand. We've seen 1 video every week for months now and it still Looks very barebones. They recently added resource management. which should add some depth.
That said this is just Alpha, Maybe they are holding tons of content back.

But i'll see how much the gameplay holds this game up tomorrow. I got invited in the alpha, and I have to say I'm excited.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

OH NO!!!!!!!!! but those were the most expected games of all time!

Obviously they weren't but for a starved xbot, those suddenly became the most coveted games!

[YAO-BLING]

CANCELED

[frostypants]

By the time Crackdown 3 comes out it'll be Scorpio-only and all that cloud stuff will be unnecessary.

[Imp0ssibl3]

Scorpio won't matter at all if there are no exclusive games....What are you doing, Microsoft?

[FallenAngel1984]

It won't have exclusives since it's an iterative console 😑

[WeAreLegion]

He means Xbox, in general, won't sell without exclusives. So, Scorpio is screwed.

[XanderZane]

If you say so....
http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

Phil: "We’re gonna have games only released on the PC. We’re gonna have games only released on console. And PC gaming is critically important to the company.”"

[Utalkin2me]

@XanderZane

Ahhhh....People falling for more PR talk. Dont talk just do. There is alot of things MS said and did a 180 on. But hey as long as the wave something shiny in your face, you forget.

[LordJamar]

it will sell

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Why don't you wait til damn E3. While you do that I'll be waiting for the Pro to get true 4k/60. I think we know who will be waiting longer.

[SpaceRanger]

"Why don't you wait til damn E3."

That's all we hear EVERY year!

"While you do that I'll be waiting for the Pro to get true 4k/60. I think we know who will be waiting longer."

Yeah we definitely know who will be waiting longer...as always YOU will. Thanks for reminding us.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

[aconnellan]

@SpaceRanger

"That's all we hear EVERY year!"

That's because every E3, MS announces a bunch of new games, some being new IP, some being console exclusive. Yet every year they get ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative that they don't have any games

[LackTrue4K]

The yearly Xbox owner war cry.

"Wait for E3!!"

[Prince_TFK]

@SpaceRanget "Thats all we hear EVERY year!"

Weren't most of the games that they revealed during E3 got released? Why do you pretend that they never release any games after their E3 showing?

[Critic4l_Strik3]

Ill be playing lots of exclusive and 3rd party games on the PS4 while you wait for some games to show up

[gangsta_red]

@spaceranger

"That's all we hear EVERY year"

Maybe because every year there's an E3.

[trooper_]

Wait till E3.
-no new games are announced-

Wait till next E3!

Do you guys ever get tired of saying that?

[Z501]

Isn't it sad that people have to wait til E3 every year?
Been hearing "Wait til E3" since January.

[Utalkin2me]

@343_Guilty_Spark

You still have stuff from E3 3 years ago thats not even out or got canceled. When will you people get it...

[MorpheusX]

@343_Guilty_Spark

wt?!

How many E3's do you think the XB1 userbase should wait on? Its been 3 so far....

smh, damn moron.

[CaptainObvious878]

I guess that means you already have a PS4 Pro and never bought the underpowered xbone, since power is apparently so important to you.

You can keep waiting if you like, but I'm playing games right now.

[morganfell]

@Imp0ssibl3,

Apparently he had one nerve and you were on it. All you did was make an extremely valid point. I would like to know what they are doing. I still have 3 MS consoles in this house that are dormant. Or at least I would like to believe they are dormant and not dead. But with everything available on my PC, mere dormancy seems unlikely.

[mark_parch]

what like crackdown 3, state of deacy 2, motorsport 7, tacoma, below, cuphead and at least one other unannounced game and that's if sea of theives doesn't release this year

[ccgr]

Better late and fixed than early and broken

[yomfweeee]

Like Quantum Break. Worth the wait..... not.

[LordofYogurt]

Quantum Break is actually really good

[KenichiEbina]

That 5hr game is not $60 good. I'd rather watch that abysmal experience on youtube.

[mark_parch]

quantum break is a good game you should try it

[Prince_TFK]

Or like Drive Club...wait that was a super duper great game.

[XanderZane]

No Man's Sky wasn't worth the wait either. Neither was The Order 1886. DriveClub? Nope.. not worth the wait or the $60. Don't act like XBox is the only platform that gets exclusives that aren't worth the money or the wait. PS4 had plenty of those as well and so did Nintendo. Quantum Break wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either. Not worth $60 though. I agree with that. NMS isn't even worth $40.

[Kribwalker]

Or the last guardian. Totally worth the 10 year wait.......smh

[Utalkin2me]

@Kribwalker

After all the issues the game had. Sony stuck it out for the fans and released it. MS wouldn't do the same.

[Liqu1d]

@Kribwalker How do you know TLG wasn't worth the wait? You haven't even played the game.

[Kribwalker]

@liquid
Have most of the people on here played quantum break? Or are they just going of the metacritic of 77 vs TLG 82?

[MrSec84]

Seems like Forza Motorsport 7, Crackdown 3 and State of Decay 2 will be Microsoft's Q3/4 2017 games, if Sea of Thieves is still in Alpha but Beta is a ways off it's likely a 2018 release.
Maybe SoT will come out by May 2018.

Cuphead is supposed to be Mid 2017, so maybe that will get a release date soon.

[Gaming4Life1981]

I want all the games you mentioned but i really want cuphead, just release the game already and the same for below. They clearly showed these games off way too early but im looking forward to them all.

I hope sea of thieves makes it out this year looks very interesting.

[Gh05t]

Cuphead isnt the same game that was shown though. I mean Cuphead had an initial date in 2014 then 2015, then 2016... I just really wish they would have released the original boss battle game... i dont think what they are doing is going to make it better, but we will see whenever it finally comes out. This was one of the indie games I have wanted for 3 years now.

[mark_parch]

ive still got fingers crossed for below releasing this year

[Gaming4Life1981]

Yea i know below looks so damn good. I have no clue why you got disagrees for wanting a game to release this year but i hope it does as well.

[TheCommentator]

"Concrete possibility"... 🤔 ...it's a definite maybe confirmed!

[Chris12]

Yeh, 'concrete possibility' is hilarious. Terrible writing but that's the crap we have to read these days.

[alb1899]

After E3 we talk. There is too much rumors.
People​ over think things, if after E3 MS has nothing to show then we talk with real information.

[Sam Fisher]

Agree, but if true... heavy blow to the.xbox community, id be furious that they come out whit the skorpio and not put in money into new ip.

[alb1899]

Me too, let's see.

[Utalkin2me]

But MS showed stuff from E3 over 3 years ago and its still not out.

[DeadSilence]

Forza and halo anniversary 😂😂😂

[XXanderXX]

No delay , its Arriving in the fall .......

[sk8ofmnd]

Does anybody actually care about this game other than xbox fanboys that need another reason to justify their 2013 $500 pricetag?

[Bathyj]

It does look like a classic Rare game. And by that I mean it looks like N64 graphics. I dont see where the "Its beautiful" praise is coming from. Except for the water. The water is pretty.

The gameplay doesnt interest me though. Im not an MP guy so I dont want to be playing a game where Im relying on others but I understand that other people do. Had this been a Single Player sprawling adventure like AC:Black Flag I might have been interested.

But you cant blame Xbox guys for wanting games. They really should be demanding more, especially from Rare. They were the Naughty Dog of their time, they couldnt miss. They have been a shell of that since key staff left and MS bought them. I mean really their best game since leaving Nintendo is either Kameo or Viva Pinata. Both good games but not when you compare it to Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, Banjo, Donkey Kong, Conker. A top shelf Rare game has become rare indeed.

[LordJamar]

ppl like you are kinda cancer

[sk8ofmnd]

No need to get angry bud... Were all gamers. I used to love xbox when they first came out then 4 rrod 360's later and i "jumped ship" like many others.

[LordJamar]

does not excuse your trolling over something that happen years ago again you kinda ppl are a bit of cancer to the community if you dont like a plastic box so be it but stop trolling

[sk8ofmnd]

Whos trolling... MANY people agree the xb1 original price with kinnect was an abomination. People (myself included) just wanted the xb1 without kinnect when ms stated at first... The xb1 couldnt even work without the kinnect only to later state oh were stupid my bad. The xb1s should have been their original release and yes without kinnect. They could have easilly done that and matched the ps4 price of 399... As far as my sea of thieves comment... Again... Noone is talking about this game like many other games from microsoft FACT

[LordJamar]

many people are fact stop hateing and trolling and bashing games you dont know anything about you are not a gamer i dont know what you are and again that stuff happen almost 4 years ago seriously get over it and the guy got fired (replaced) over it

[joab777]

If Scorpio does well in pre sales or MS scores some decent exclusive rights for its launch, expect it to get all the time it needs.

[sk8ofmnd]

Thats a lot of ifs... They aint secured any awesome new ips since... Forever. Best thing thry could do is jump in bed with someone that can and does... Other than that, if ms keeps going the way of the do do bird, the scorpio will be their last hurrah

[joab777]

That's the point I was making lol!

[2pacalypsenow]

Consoles almost always do well at launch because of the hype, its after the launch that matters. Look at the Dreamcast

[magicted]

This game sounds like it's a long ways from release especially if they are barely putting in basic NPC's. Why is there a beta so soon if their is hardly any NPC's? Is the drought on games so bad that MS letting their fans play on unfinished games not even half done?

[MagicBeanz]

They've been talking about this game forever and its still not out? I sense a potential cancellation coming.

[KenichiEbina]

Looks like a big flop in the making.

[Mr-Dude]

I wouldn't call it a flop before it's out, but if it's multiplayer only, that can cause some issues if you don't have people to play with.

[snkiworld]

"No Games" Justified

[omarja1405]

Surprised this hasn't been cancelled yet.

[KickSpinFilter]

Well, I get it delays happen, rather have a game come out late than rushed. That being said if this and Crackdown 3 get delayed to some other time after Scorpio release that's really bad news for Scorpio. I think it needs other things than a new Halo and Forza to help push this.

[LordJamar]

ppl really want broken unfinished games? how about you let them finish the game instead of trying to push a console war ppl

[krypt1983]

No this game will launch like minecraft and continually get updates, i have already been playing the alpha and it's solid enough for launch

[Dan_scruggs]

Are you asking me or telling me?

[frostypants]

I'm still not 100% confident it will be released at all. I hope it does...it looks like the pirate game I always wanted. There's Blackwake on PC in early access, but it's a mess and the fact that the devs are taking Goat Simulator-like pride in its bugginess is irritating AF.