Little Nightmares Runs at 1620P@60FPS on PS4 Pro, 1080P@30 on PS4

Little Nightmares is getting a substantial boost to both resolution and frame rate on PS4 Pro when compared to the base PS4 version.

[Einhander1971]

Have the collectors edition preordered roll on next Friday:)

[solideagle]

what happened to Media Molecule's Dream game? is it released...completely forgot about it

[nveenio]

No, it's not out yet. They're supposed to start a Beta this year, though.

[nevarDcirE]

Ye they announced it when it was little more than a concept. They are now trying to turn it into a game with gameplay.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Do u even follow gaming? No, Dreams has not released, but Mm has plenty of Twitch streams showcasing the game. It should release on PS4/Pro and PSVR at the end of the yr or in 2018.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Game looks really cool and it's awesome they doubled the framerate and increased the resolution.

[TheCommentator]

Wow. Double the frames and at 1620p is impressive!

[boomtube1987]

not for a non AAA

[Athos]

Agreed, disappointing

[frostypants]

Explain.

[Bathyj]

Thats ridiculous reasoning. Im not calling you out specifically but a lot here are saying the same thing. "Its not an AAA game it should be 4K@60fps."

Well its not an AAA team building it either and they might not have the money, time or even talent to do such a thing. Stop acting like game making is an exact science. Its not, its an art. There is no correct way and its up to devs to manage their capabilities and resources to what they can achieve. You have to work with what you got.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

If I learned anything this generation, it's that gamers on the internet LOVE to be controlled by buzzwords and some sort of standard that they [don't] follow. Last I saw, there's more than enough trash "AAA" games on the shelf, and an indie game can be just as good looking as anything else. You don't make a game look "better" just because you're supposed to. That's how bad games get created.

[Ju]

@Baths Amen!

[Rude-ro]

So you are saying ori and the blind forest must be horrible then.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Boomtube1987 is hardcore trolling in this article. It's pretty blatant.

They doubled the framerate and increased the resolution significantly, i'd say it's more than sufficient and it should be a huge improvement at 1620p and 60fps.

If the original PS4 version ran at 60fps or if the Pro version ran at 30fps then i would agree that it should absolutely be native 4k, but they don't.

It's up to each dev if they want to support an enhanced Pro version and this is not a developer with a CoD size team or unlimited resources so we should be thankful that they decided to do it.

For a modest developer i'm very happy with double the framerate to 60fps and 1620p. I'd actually prefer to see more games go for 60fps and 1440 or 1600p rather than 4k/30fps.

[e3kehoe]

Looking forward to this one

[Kribwalker]

what a weird resolution, 1620p

[Alexious]

Agreed, it's the first time I heard about it. I suppose they couldn't keep 1800P...

[Darkwatchman]

The Darksiders remaster ran at 1620p on ps4 pro. The Cod 4 remaster is also 1620p on pro.

[King_Lothric]

As weird as 900p?

[XMarkstheSpot]

More like 792p for Titanfall

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

900p is not a weird resolution... well if you are used to gaming on PC lol. 792p was weird lol

[IamTylerDurden1]

1620p is actually less weird than 792p. When Titanfall on xbone was 792p it was a bit peculiar.

[Kribwalker]

How is it less weird? It'd be like 810p. That's a strange resolution

[XMarkstheSpot]

Lets be real here, its Tyler so it would be less weird because its the PS4Pro. If PS was Scorpio and Scorpio had the specs as the Pro this place would be WW3 all over again just like the beginning of this generation with all the spec talk that kinda died away. Ive been watching from the side lines for awhile now and can easily see bs in most people who comment on most articles as if they don't have any games to play and how both sides move things around.

[MasterCornholio]

"The game will run at 1080P and 30 FPS on a regular PlayStation 4 console, while the native resolution will be bumped to 1620P (75% of 4K’s 2160P) on PS4 Pro where the frame rate will be close to 60FPS (70% of the time it will be stable at 60FPS, for the remaining 30% it will vary between 50 and 60FPS). "

Actually article contains a little more info than the description does.

So is 1620P the 900P of 4K gaming?

[mkis007]

Maybe in just the way that it is a compromise. But can you actually see the difference from 1620p vs 2160p as pronounced as when it's 900p vs 1080p...no...no I cant.

People really love to compare the 2 situations, but they are fundamentally different.

[TankCrossing]

1620p is not 75% of 4k. Assuming the same aspect ratio, it is more like 58%.

[Ju]

What? 2160*0.75=1620. Of course this applies for both axis and not the overall pixelcount

[Kribwalker]

I'd put it as comparable to titanfalls 788p as that's closer to the difference then 900p. And 60fps 70% of the time is terrible. Should have gone 1440/60 or 4k/30 then

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Changing res would only help framerate if the gpu is the bottleneck and I'm sure its the CPU.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Titanfall was 792p on xbone, u should know that.

Are u new to gaming? How many games that claim they are 60fps are actually "targeted 60fps" games? I'd say most. A locked 60fps 70% of the time and between 50 to 60fps the rest of the time is for all intensive purposes a 60fps game nowadays and it is by no means terrible.

[its_JEFF]

There you have it... you've found the new "troll" thing to drop on the PRO. Go forth and spread the word... #JahovaswitnessOfGaming

I do find 1620 to be a bit weird, why not the 1440? Well it's a higher number so... I guess it's better.

[TheCommentator]

1440p is 2x 720p, and 1800p is 2x 900p, so both are related to established resolutions for games. Resolutions of 792p or 1620p are simply weird because they don't fit into any standard category. But yeah, I can't see any reason why 1620 wouldn't be better than 1440p, so why not do it if it's possible?

[kevnb]

1440p is 4 times 720p and twice the pixel density. They double the pixels of the length and the width.

[its_JEFF]

Ahh... thx for the info!

[TheCommentator]

Thanks for the correction, Kevnb. You're right about that. I was referring more to the fact that it scales perfectly with the lower resolutions, unlike 1620p or 792p, but that was my bad for not elaborating my point.

[kevnb]

That would be 1440p.

[MasterCornholio]

Nice to know that it's higher.

[Bathyj]

I would have thought people would be happy they worked on improving the framerate over resolution. I mean all I hear here is gameplay over graphics, but suddenly its bitch bitch bitch. How many games are 30 on Vanilla and 60 on Pro? Not that many I would bet. Not as many as there are that just improve rez.

[leoms]

I don't think so. I can't recall a game at 900p that hit 60 fps

[nevarDcirE]

No 1800p is equivalent to 900p.

1620p is equivalent to 792p.

Both resolutions that Xbox got crucified for.

[cd1]

Nice art style.

[Money-Mike]

4K native? No? Try again

[2pacalypsenow]

Do you even know what the Native resolution of 4k is? It's not 3840x2160.. Try Again

[TankCrossing]

It isn't 3841x2180. Keep trying.

Hmmmm. This isn't as fun as I had hoped. Still, at least nobody has been dumb enough to bring up the cinematic aspect ratio and think they are smart, right?

[OMGitzThatGuy]

There are 2 native standards smarty pants, 4096x2160 is the standard for film production and 3840x2160 is the standard for TV's and monitors. 3840x2160 is exactly 4x 1080p whereas 4096x2016 is 4.27. And you bringing up native resolution when he never stated exact pixel numbers is null.

[Ding]

OMGitzThatGuy17m ago
There are 2 native standards smarty pants, 4096x2160 is the standard for film production and 3840x2160 is the standard for TV's and monitors. 3840x2160 is exactly 4x 1080p whereas 4096x2016 is 4.27. And you bringing up native resolution when he never stated exact pixel numbers is null.
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[Tussin187]

Are you even going to buy this game? Honest question. We all know that resolution matters again now that the Scorpio is dropping. Wow, native 4k is not even close to being mainstream with TVs or PC gaming yet we have your comment like it not being native means it's going to be a bad game. I'm seriously done with all of this. You diehards are ridiculous and I'm not even going to waste my time anymore. It's pointless. You guys actually get enjoyment from this which is the sad part. Have fun...

[Athos]

It's hard when the same line people have beaten X1 owners over the head with comes back to haunt you. Buh buh.

[yeahright2]

@athos, so are you going to buy it? or just wait for forza?

[Athos]

I will consider buying more forza for my PC, but don't own an X1 sorry. My consoles are PS4 pro, slim, a Wii U and a Switch.

[XbladeTeddy]

Never knew about this game but that art style is so good.

[Alexious]

The game is great, especially if you like Tim Burton stuff!

[DeathtoOtakuDJ]

It's like Little Big Planet, Alice: Madness Returns and Coraline mashed together.

[XbladeTeddy]

Sounds perfect for me. Not sure why i never heard about it. Going to buy the steam version.

[yeahright2]

Dang, still need to play alice. had it forever and keep pushing it further and further back.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

A very strange resolution.

[Bigpappy]

Well they were trying for 60 on the pro as priority. Might have been able to get to 1800, but that would be more in the 30fps range.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Just bring it to Scorpio. 2160p/60 no problem.

[ILostMyMind]

@343_Guilty_Spark
No. You will have only Forza, Halo and Gears.

[BrettAwesome]

Scorpio? Ok. Show it to me. Do you have one?

[Mystogan]

It can't even do 60fps.

"The game will run at 1080P and 30 FPS on a regular PlayStation 4 console, while the native resolution will be bumped to 1620P (75% of 4K’s 2160P) on PS4 Pro where the frame rate will be close to 60FPS (70% of the time it will be stable at 60FPS, for the remaining 30% it will vary between 50 and 60FPS"

prepare your butts for a whole lot of screen tearing.

[DarXyde]

Okay, I have to ask:

What on earth is a "stable 60fps, 70% of the time"?

That's literally NOT a stable frame rate lol.

[Number_9]

60% of the time it works all the time! What's there there not to understand?

[Athos]

That's because they could only do 70% of the math. They were too busy trying to figure out how many pixels are in the bizarre resolution. This is partly why my Pro is for exclusives only, my PC's are still much more powerful.

[Bathyj]

What Number 9 said. Its like Sex Panther.

[_LarZen_]

Going to be so interesting to see articles like this when Scorpio is out.....but the same people going in to read how their console will handle a game has suddenly no interest in performance once Scorpio is in the equation.

[Rude-ro]

And what is even more funny, will be all the websites that will care about the comparisons again after the 2 years of ignoring them since it was not their wallet stuffing Microsoft that was winning. :(
Own the media, own the world.

[its_JEFF]

what a weird resolution... I don't think I've really heard of 1620p, must not be one of the popular ones: 720/1080/1440/2160 etc. Articles like these open up a whole new world of resolutions lol

[cd1]

I think the active rez BF1 uses can render up to 1620p too...i think.

[its_JEFF]

BF1 is an interesting game, I've had at least a couple instances where the res jumps extremely low! At first I wasn't sure If it was real or not, I thought I had imagined it.

[cd1]

@jeff

I haven't seen that, myself. Out of all of the games I've played on both launch PS4 and Pro, the upgrades to BF1 stood out the most.

[TheCommentator]

@ cd1 it was a glitch, but I assume they patched BF1 since then. The dynamic scaling on PS4 would drop to 180p (not a typo) in very rare circumstances!!!

[its_JEFF]

@cd1 Yea, I hear that BF1 looks fantastic on the Pro.

[feraldrgn]

Game looks very interesting & I like the art style.

[Yohshida]

How is this not native 4k?

[Athos]

Crap CPU would be my guess. The GPU is pretty good.

[Yohshida]

or just lazy devs? Even FIFA can run at 4K and I would bet that it requires a lot more resources.

[Ju]

Well, it isn't 60fps on the Slim, either

[Mystogan]

Funny part is, it can't even maintain the 60fps.

"The game will run at 1080P and 30 FPS on a regular PlayStation 4 console, while the native resolution will be bumped to 1620P (75% of 4K’s 2160P) on PS4 Pro where the frame rate will be close to 60FPS (70% of the time it will be stable at 60FPS, for the remaining 30% it will vary between 50 and 60FPS"

[Yohshida]

Either the devs are lazy or pro is a joke. Games like this should be Native 4K at 60FPS EASY

[DeadSilence]

This game looks lovely, also 60fps yes!

[Team_Litt]

Yeah but at Sex Panther rates.

[Mystogan]

"The game will run at 1080P and 30 FPS on a regular PlayStation 4 console, while the native resolution will be bumped to 1620P (75% of 4K’s 2160P) on PS4 Pro where the frame rate will be close to 60FPS (70% of the time it will be stable at 60FPS, for the remaining 30% it will vary between 50 and 60FPS"

[slavish0]

60fps nice

[Mystogan]

It can't even maintain that at that weird resolution.

"The game will run at 1080P and 30 FPS on a regular PlayStation 4 console, while the native resolution will be bumped to 1620P (75% of 4K’s 2160P) on PS4 Pro where the frame rate will be close to 60FPS (70% of the time it will be stable at 60FPS, for the remaining 30% it will vary between 50 and 60FPS"

[PersonMan]

I would have preferred 30fps on the Pro without fluctuations. Seeing that they're actually saying there are dips, doesn't really make me very happy.

[Ju]

N4G is getting hilarious. I think no matter what developers do, gamers are never satisfied. Man, I grew up with 320x240 and 16 hard colors, and that was awesome. Looks everyone is a spoiled brat these days. Now we are getting 150% of the PS4 resolution and 200% framerate and yet 90% "the pro is crap" comments. Shiny new world, indeed.

Oh, I forgot. For 125% of the slim's price.

[TheCommentator]

EGA monitors were sick!!! The perfect compliment to my 32MB HDD, 5 1/4" floppy, and phone cradle modem...

My first computer didn't even have a color monitor... or a seperate keyboard. I'm freaking old...😔

[mandingo]

weak hahahha

[Mystogan]

Its really sad that it can't even MAINTAIN the 60fps at that weird resolution. This is a way bigger gap than 1080p vs 900p.

"The game will run at 1080P and 30 FPS on a regular PlayStation 4 console, while the native resolution will be bumped to 1620P (75% of 4K’s 2160P) on PS4 Pro where the frame rate will be close to 60FPS (70% of the time it will be stable at 60FPS, for the remaining 30% it will vary between 50 and 60FPS"

[Dan_scruggs]

How about we start with whether or not the game is any good.

[Bathyj]

Na, who even cares about that. Its all about the resolution.

I swear I'd never even heard of this game until I found out it wasnt 4k.

[GreenUp]

Can we please get a 1440p output option on PS4 Pro? I'd like to be able to play at 1440p on my 1440p monitor. Thank you. :)

[Mystogan]

PS4 Pro cant even handle 4k modern indie games,

[yeahright2]

What's the resolution on X1?

[Mystogan]

1080p probably. What's your point?

btw:
It can't even MAINTAIN that 60fps at 50% 4K lmao.

"The game will run at 1080P and 30 FPS on a regular PlayStation 4 console, while the native resolution will be bumped to 1620P (75% of 4K’s 2160P) on PS4 Pro where the frame rate will be close to 60FPS (70% of the time it will be stable at 60FPS, for the remaining 30% it will vary between 50 and 60FPS"

PS4 Pro is much weaker than I thought. damn.

[yeahright2]

You fanboys, your opinion changes based on what your plastic box of choice is capable of at the moment. even worse now, you don't even have the power advantage yet and you're already bragging about it. Here's how we all know you're full of it. because if power really mattered that much, you'd either be on ps4 right now or PC. But it's not really power that's your concern, it's the logo on the box.

[BrettAwesome]

I have the best console in the UNIVERSE!!! You all have CRAP!! PS5000 and Xbox One Two Switch will destroy you ALL with 4KKK and 666 fps
And my cock is harder than yours
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[mark_parch]

i must admit i'm surprised it can't hit native 4k locked 60fps on pro

[windblowsagain]

Don't be so stupid.

It's 25% shy of Native 4k.

Plus they have gone from 30fps to 60fps.

And no it dosen't look like an average indie game.

[Seafort]

What do you lot care if the game is 4k or not? It's a non AAA game that isn't important. Most of you won't play it or have a 4k tv anyway so won't see the difference.

I'll just play it on my PC and have some fun while you lot keep bickering amongst yourselves about number of pixels on the screen or lack thereof.

And you say PC gamers are elitists. Hypocrisy at it's finest :)

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Scorpio version at 2160p?

[XStation4pio_Pro]

What's weird is almost all of these new games coming out say they're available on Xbox one, but I was told Xbox one doesn't have games.....

[Artemidorus]

Give me the option for 900/720 P 60fps on OG Playstation please.

[LordJamar]

but but but performance and graphics dont matter only games do

-sony fans with Scorpio 2017

[Master of Unlocking]

Cool, I was just thinking about getting that game, as it looks like Tim Burton, Media Molecule and Studio Haardman had a baby together. What about the horizontal resolution though?