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Will the Switch Bring Back Third-Party Support to Nintendo?

— Nintendo Enthusiast:

The Switch has been on the worldwide market for about six weeks at this point. Not too long after the system launched, various reports started rolling in as to how well it was selling. After a recent report from the NPD, Nintendo confirmed that the Switch sold 906,000 units in the month of March in the US alone. In addition to the good sales, developers have complimented Nintendo’s efforts on making the Switch simple to develop for and the added power over the Wii U. All of this is really good news, and if the situation continues to grow in this direction, the Switch could end up becoming a really big success. If that happens, will that be enough to reinvigorate decent third-party support?

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PhoenixUp2568d ago

It doesn't seem to be dramatically changing. You still see plenty of AAA games being announced with no mention of a NS version

Erik73572568d ago (Edited 2568d ago )

I think it does if you count indies. IF not then yea.

Now that the industry is more focused on indies than it was before it makes the 3rd party support much greater for Nintendo.

I still would expect more support from big publishers, not a lot granted, but more just because its selling so much better and it's actually worthwhile to have the newest fifa on it or something.

_-EDMIX-_2567d ago

@Erik- You mean less demanding games? What does independent have to do with it? CD projekt Red is an independent developer so does that mean you're going to see cyberpunk 2077 on the switch? So please stops using the term independent to try to describe less demanding because that doesn't actually mean all independent entities within gaming.

I think what you're trying to say is that games that are less demanding will work on the switch your mobile games your games that were on other portable platforms or games that are not that demanding etc

I don't know what independent or being owned has to do with it.

So what do you mean selling much better? You mean it has more units than the Wii? Because the Wii selling 100 million did not suddenly start getting it Resident Evil or Battlefield or Mass Effect or anything like that is there a reason why you suddenly believe the switch is going to receive something that the previous weaker Nintendo consoles did not receive?

And if you believe so from a publisher like Electronic Arts is there a reason why the switch version of Battlefront 2 doesn't exist? What about Mass Effect Andromeda?

All I'm saying is give an actual real reason on why you believe this would receive more third-party support despite technically being the exact same situation as the Wii and Wii U...

Lockdown5552567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

@_-EDMIX-_

The Wii is actually a perfect example. Although not everyone jumped on the bandwagon, both Assassin's Creed and call of duty came to the platform when it sold like hotcakes after years of saying it wasn't powerful enough to handle those games. If there is a market there the developers will make games for it.

EddieNX 2567d ago

The 3ds didn't get much western support yet it has a truly amazing, never ending list of exclusives. I'd rather the switch take that route tbh. If certain western games come to Switch, then the more the merrier!

_-EDMIX-_2567d ago

@Lock- "The Wii is actually a perfect example. Although not everyone jumped on the bandwagon, both Assassin's Creed and call of duty came to the platform when it sold like hotcakes"

Assassins Creed came to the Wii?

When? Link?

Do you mean Wii U?

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

So even when you factor sales, publishers like Ubisoft choose to stop supporting Nintendo hardware with certain games.... Never mind hardware bud ,they are saying their games are not selling REGARDLESS even BEFORE you factor hardware.

Last COD on Wii Was MW3, used a different engine then the PS3 and 360 versions and clearly didn't work out for them as it was the last COD on Wii in 2011.

COD and AC games either didn't come to the Wii or stopped coming to Wii U after certain releases, either based on low sales, low returns, hardware issues etc.

I mean...your example goes to only show that support for those platforms was rare, even the series you named don't have 100% of their releases on Wii or even Wii U. Being weak also means spending MORE MONEY for a different version, that sells less etc.

I mean....where is COD IW on Wii U?
Where is AC Syndicate or Unity on Wii U?

You sure you want to cite those series?

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freshslicepizza2567d ago

thats because developers are taking a wait and see approach first. once switch sells enough they will start porting games to it. some games will just be harder to do if the hardware has more limitations. You might even get games below 720p.

_-EDMIX-_2567d ago

Because the wii selling 100 million started getting it Mass Effect Resident Evil Dead Space Battlefield Grand Theft Auto ?

I mean you have to consider how well the do wii need to sell to receive those games?

freshslicepizza2567d ago

Well the Wii proved it had a lot of casuals they were not interested in those games and the ports it got weren't exactly they great either. The Switch has other benefits going fit it like it's portability. I know some have already said they are excited to play games like Skyrim on the go. Whether the Switch gets it's fair share of casuals remains to be seen.

TheUndertaker852567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

If that is what is happening don't expect support to be better than Wii U.

It has been reported that Switch has moved 2.1 million units since launch. If that number is accurate Switch fell behind Wii U which sported over 3 million sales in the same period of time.
https://arstechnica.com/gam...

wonderfulmonkeyman2567d ago

After the Wii U, it's not surprising that people like Ubi and EA are hesitating, but let's be honest; there are a lot of games from other third parties, Japanese devs especially, that will make a bigger difference to the Switch's fortunes, collectively, than a new Mass Effect or FIFA would.

_-EDMIX-_2567d ago

But even Square Enix and Capcom have made statements that they're not bringing over specific franchises to the switch.

Didn't Square Enix confirm they're not bringing over Final Fantasy 15 to the switch?

Didn't Capcom also state they're not bringing Resident Evils to the switch as well?

I mean did you see Final Fantasy 13 on the Wii or Wii U? For god sakes did you even see the Kingdom Hearts Collection on either of those platforms? Did you see Revelations 2 or Resident Evil 7 on either of those platforms? So why exactly do you think a situation is going to arise that is technically not arrived the previous generations despite them selling 100 million wiis?

I'm sorry but you can't keep trying to cherry-pick these scenarios and then absolutely ignore historically they've already happened and have shown what the results would likely be.

EddieNX 2567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

Edmix, no! Neither Square enix or Capcom said that, infact quite the opposite lol.

Both have expressed huge interest in Switch and said they are looking at bringing games to Switch, no single franchise or game has yet to be ruled out by either. I know because I've actually been rolling these types of articles.

gangsta_red2567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

@edmix

"But even Square Enix and Capcom have made statements that they're not bringing over specific franchises to the switch."

Interesting, i really dont remember Capcom or Square saying this. Do you have links where they said specifically that?

"I'm sorry but you can't keep trying to cherry-pick..."

That is completely hilarious, you are the only one here cherry picking. So third party support specifically means those companies mentioned have to bring over FF 15 or a main line RE game?

You really believe that a company has to bring over specific franchises in order for it to constitute as third party support for a system?

Wasn't there an article just on N4G that YOU were in that stated capcom was focusing on the Switch?

http://n4g.com/news/2041240...

Exactly what is the point of your comment if only to make yourself pretend to know what you're talking about? Did monkeyman even say that that a RE of FF was coming?

How can you claim cherry picking when that is all you ever do with each comment you leave.

_-EDMIX-_2567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

@eddie- "Edmix, no! Neither Square enix or Capcom said that, infact quite the opposite lol"
@Gred- links for you bud lolz. Stop going OT, not wasting time with your post pal, you go OT a bit too much on here.

@EddieNX-

http://www.ign.com/articles...

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

So do you have a link to them saying yes? I mean....both publishers have made clear its not happening, but....thats suddenly wrong? Sooooo do you have a link to them saying FFXV and RE7 coming to Switch?

Mind you, they said not Resident Evils, as in all of them.

Many have stated how strange it was that Resident Evil was missing from Nintendo systems.

After Revelations 1 port to Wii U, Nintendo stopped seeing Resident Evil games. So after 2013, for some reason we saw no Resident Evil games on Nintendo platforms for some reason.

Revelations 2
Resident Evil 2002 remaster
Resident Evil Zero remaster
Resident Evil Umbrella Corps MP game
Resident Evil 7
Resident Evil 5 HD
Resident Evil 6 HD
Resident Evil Revelations HD (PS4, PC, XONE)

So what is weird about this is that several of those games are on PS3 and 360 sooooooo zero reason why they can't work on Wii U......other then maybe those sales are just too low for the risk.

Capcom ports a lot, they are known to re-release often and update their games very frequently....to not have a Wii U version of MANY of those games is alarming, like something has CHANGED at Capcom. GC got basically all of the older Resident Evils, ie 2002 remake (one of the best in the series) RE2, RE3, RECV etc

So for Wii U to come out and Capcom to basically ignore it is very, very questionable. So for them to come out and say no Resident Evils for Switch, is not them even saying starting now, its simply them finally confirming what many have sorta spotted. They are doing what Ubisoft started to do.

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

They are looking at the install base and measuring if it makes sense to ever release this IP for this install base if they are either just too young, or not core RE fans etc.

Unless you got a link saying otherwise bud, I'd relax on the whole "opposite" thing as I have not heard or read ANYWHERE of Square saying they have plans for FF series on Switch or Capcom saying they have RE series for Switch.

I heard both say no, but consider BOTH would be doing what they've BEEN doing. Wii didn't get RE5 and 6, Wii didn't get FFXIII or FFX remaster etc, thus...this simply means both publishers are telling you what they've been doing anyway.

Skipping Nintendo hardware when it comes to those IPs.

XanderZane2567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

@EddieNX
Really? Capcom and SquareEnix didn't say that?

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

SquareEnix did say they were considering bringing FF XIV to the Switch though. They might even bring it to the XBox One.
http://www.ign.com/articles...

Still SquareEnix and Capcom may bring other games to the Switch, but they haven't confirmed anything yet.

gangsta_red2567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

@Edmix

"Sooooo do you have a link to them saying FFXV and RE7 coming to Switch?"

But that wasn't your original question was it Edmix? You said that Square and Capcom weren't bringing specific franchises to the Switch. Then you decided to cherry pick two games from a franchise series, RE7 and FF 15.

"Unless you got a link saying otherwise bud, I'd relax on the whole "opposite" thing as I have not heard or read ANYWHERE of Square saying they have plans for FF series on Switch or Capcom saying they have RE series for Switch."

Lmao, but that's not what you said Edmix. Why do you cherry pick those two particular games as some sort of excuse of Switch not getting any third party support. Picking those two games doesn't mean Square or Capcom is not bringing the '"franchise" to the Switch.

And, exactly who here said and confirmed that the Switch was going to be getting Final Fantasy 15 and Resident Evil 7? Just another argument you made up so you could make several paragraphs of off topic comments.

Third party support does not mean Capcom or Square has to bring a main RE and FF to the Switch....(something you even clarify only after I call you out on it which is hilarious.)

But please do ignore Square bringing the Mana series to the Switch

http://www.polygon.com/2017...

Please ignore the NEW RPG Square is bringing to the Switch

https://www.vg247.com/2017/...

Please ignore the rumors of a new Monster Hunter from Capcom that might be making it's way to the Switch

https://gamerant.com/monste...

Let's also ignore that Capcom is looking into bringing more of their triple A content to Switch

' http://nintendoenthusiast.c...

Let's ignore all that because you want to only focus on FF 15 and RE7 not being on the Wii U and absolutely nothing else.

Or is this comment off topic too...bud?

wonderfulmonkeyman2567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

No, Ed, neither of them said those were out of the question.
You just like cherry-picking the lines you read between then making your own interpretations, while ignoring the fact, FACT, that these guys DO have GOOD GAMES COMING to the Switch even without the biggest of names.

It was recently announced that there are 20 GAMES that use Unreal 4 coming to Switch, but I don't even recall you showing any excitement for that, despite your CONSTANT INSISTENCE, that more games are what it needs.
You're probably waiting to cherry-pick reasons to avoid getting them on Switch, I'm betting the first reason will be because some of them might be ports or something equally petty, but the rest of the community, hopefully, won't be that closed-minded.

I'm sorry, but you need to quit pretending that only the AAA's which the Switch won't get will be the only ones that could boost its sales or change its fortunes, and start recognizing that it IS going to be getting games that none-Nintendo gamers who skipped the Wii U will want it for.
The universe of RPG's doesn't revolve around Final Fantasy or KH, for example; there are several franchises I can name which would make just as big a difference to the Switch's fortunes, if not more-so considering they'd sell better than any port of a game known as "a big PS4/XB1 title.
Bravely Default and Chrono Trigger both come to mind right off the top of my head, not to mention Tales Of and Secret of Mana, both of which garnered a lot of fame with Nintendo systems despite Tales Of having skipped the Wii U and 3DS for the most part. (and a game from that series is confirmed to be in the works, soooooo...)
Same for horror and RE, which, to be honest, the latest one wasn't as stellar as some past entries and really got most of its acclaim through VR giving it a leg up.

Also, stop pretending that the Wii U defines the Switch.
It had a negative effect on the Switch's ability to immediately draw certain third party names, but that doesn't mean Switch is in the same position. It is MUCH CLOSER to the other platforms in terms of capability than the Wii U was, for starters, which makes many more games possible to be ported, so long as they aren't made to cater to the wettest of graphics whore dreams.

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PapaBop2567d ago

After the Wii U, developers won't be taking a gamble allocating resources to a Switch port with question marks hanging over it's success. If the Switch is successful, I imagine next year we'll see more developers testing the waters with Switch ports to see how well they do.

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TheColbertinator2567d ago

Indies and Japanese publishers are a good start. Nintendo needs to handle pushing the Switch well to hardcore gamers first.

Istolla2567d ago

I don't care if they don't market to "hardcore" gamers. Most of them are whiny, entitled man babies.

TheColbertinator2567d ago

And? They have money. They'll pay. Nintendo needs to grab their attention.

Istolla2567d ago

TheColbertinator I don't think Nintendo will lose much from not catering specifically to them. Nintendo can target a market of casual to moderate gamers who don't take everything so seriously. Maybe it's my experience here, but I'm beginning to see why I skipped gaming and sites like these.

Instead of celebrating that we have so many platforms to choose from, "hardcore" gamers spend a lot of energy bashing each other. All I see is Xbox sucks, Nintendo sucks, Sony sucks. That attitude is toxic and will drive people away.

TheColbertinator2567d ago

Its not about picking and choosing who you like in the market. Nintendo must strike all directions to bring in that marketshare that WiiU destroyed.

Hardcore,casual,old,young,col lectors,fans of all genres,MMO,Rated M selection,indies...everything basically. Nintendo must go for the jack of all trades portable gaming console.

superchiller2567d ago (Edited 2567d ago )

Aside from some indie games, 3rd party support for the Switch isn't really taking off. It really seems like the Switch will follow the Wii U in terms of 3rd party support, which doesn't bode well for its future. The game library is very thin right now, with not a lot coming down the road.

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Istolla2567d ago

Lol what were you expecting after a month?

TheUndertaker852567d ago

For Nintendo to establish the third party support they claimed to have before launch?
https://m.forbes.com/sites/...

I suppose it's ok for Nintendo to list third party support beforehand then to not have that support at or after launch. Along with an ever growing black cloud of developers stating they aren't currently working on Switch while Nintendo has listed their support.

Istolla2567d ago

TheUndertaker85 those games are coming. Nintendo didn't claim that those third party games will come at launch. No console has an amazing library at launch. Be patient.

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_LarZen_2567d ago

It will be just as on WiiU. But I think we can expect more Indie support this time.

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Magog335d ago

I never got the love for Nintendo games personally. The annoying vocalizations and ugly character designs do nothing for me.

Kosic333d ago

Don't forget the constant hand holding with tutorials. Learn this new ability by pressing Y, now prove that you can press Y 8 times before you can move on....

Tapani334d ago (Edited 334d ago )

Another very weird article.

Nintendo is a great company by almost all possible normal measures. The biggest one being: their own staff is happy, and they seem to be very happy, well compensated and retain rate is solid. They are also financially very stable, profitable, and cash rich, so shareholders love them.

Overall it is an extremely creative group of people, and their mission statement is fantastic as well "to put smiles on the faces of everyone we touch. We do so by creating new surprises for people across the world to enjoy together." The social impact is also massive, not to speak culturally. Additionally, they have a really strong core business, high customer retention rate and loyalty. Nintendo's reputation is extremely good, I think in the US alone they are 9th most reputable company, their customer service is better than the average company. Plus, the press gives them a pass, because they are Nintendo. But there's a reason why they do that, it's not "because they are Nintendo", there are more layers to the argument.

Then, then there's the random negative gamers online...and their "reputation" which is inside their heads. And their western ideas of how a Japanese company should behave or what they should do. But they have no right to ask a company to do anything for them, because they can vote with their wallets.

There's a small vocal community online who dislikes Nintendo for what they are, but then again, there's always a small vocal community that dislikes something.

Nintendo also disagrees with the Western world about IP, but most people call Westerners "hidoi!" when they emulate Tears of the Kingdom and do not experience it the way Nintendo wanted them (even if it is not the best visual way), because it is a matter of principle to them (Japanese are very much against anything close to plagiarism, and there are laws that are tight about creative works copying etc.)

The Western Braveheart "freedoom!" shouters need to understand that it is not an American company, nor they need to behave like one. They can have their own fights based on their principles (against emulation). And they very well may lose the battle with that and change, or find a new audience.

In the end, it is so very simple. Don't buy the products if you don't like a company, but there's no need to paint a picture that is unrealistic about Nintendo either.

MadLad334d ago

I hate virtually everything about their business practices, actually. Suing everybody for virtually anything, shooting down fan projects, games they never let devalue, their online infrastructure and how they handle BC.

They're lucky they make great games, because that's the only thing I feel they do right.

gold_drake334d ago

my issue with them, is the complete refusal to have decent tech for us.

and their odd censorship and lawsuits for modders.