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Baja: Edge of Control PS3/360 Comparison

Which one tears up the track, and which one just tears?

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InMyOpinion5701d ago

Looking forward to seeing many "This game is crap anyways" and "lazy developers" comments.

Game looks interesting. It got a decent score from Gamespy, but I'll wait for IGN's and GameInformer's reviews.

Rick Astley5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

Well they look at the same. And by the "same" I mean like crap.

Seriously this game looks awful and it IS crap. Just look at reviews so far. Gamepro just gave it 2.5/5 LMAO!

When you have no exclusives, stand behind multi-platform games.

InMyOpinion5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

It takes no genius to see that the 360 version runs at a much smoother framerate and overall looks better. Deny it all you want.

CViper5701d ago

Why does it matter to you?

InMyOpinion5701d ago

I think it's interesting since the PS3 is supposed to be the more powerful console of the two.

Why does it matter to you what I think?

CViper5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

I love picking you apart because its so simple.

Now if you truly believe the bs you just said about "Buh buh the cell.. why no supah for multiplhat" then you are a lost cause dude. but at least you KNOW you are pathetic.

Serious question here:

Jenzo, do you believe that multiplatform game development utilizes 100% of Platforms?

1.Yes
2.No

What is your answer? Answer it if you have some balls. No one into gaming believes that to be true, so why are you so stuck on it? Some games lead with the 360, some teams lead with the ps3. Some teams code better for the 360, others don't. So if all you have to feel good about yourself is the constant back and forth between which versions of MULTIPLATFORM games has .5 frames faster, you aren't doing much actual gaming this gen. Its so hilariously obvious that you are a troll and try to bring up the Cell for a damned BAjA racing game. lol. I didn't buy my game systems for multiplatforms.

Jenzo, Answer the question.

Rick Astley5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

"I think it's interesting since the PS3 is supposed to be the more powerful console of the two."

And it shows with games like MGS4, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, WipEout HD, Gran Turismo 5, Ratchet & Clank Future: TOD, MotorStorm 2, Killzone 2, etc.

Just because a multi-platform game looks better on 360 doesn't mean the 360 is more powerful. Use your brain for once and think.

meepmoopmeep5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

it's console exclusives that take advantage of hardware

the PS3 version looks better because i only own a PS3 and that means i'm right.
i don't even have to watch videos.

:)

CViper5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

So because Burnout ran better on the ps3 that means the PS3 > 360.

[in his world of "logic"]

He doesn't seem to grasp that exclusives use 100% of the console to the teams ability.

and for that, the PS3 stands unopposed. Motorstorm2 craps all over this one as far as visuals and dynamics go. Didn't wanna take it there.

So Jenzo, you going to hide now?

poopsack5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

"It takes no genius to see that the 360 version runs at a much smoother framerate and overall looks better."
no genius DID see it!

iHEARTboobs5701d ago

You really did pick him apart. haha but if he answers watch him try to work his way around the question.

InMyOpinion5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

lol! Getting a little rabid, are we? =) You act like we were in court and your precious PS3 was on trial.

I don't think multiplatform development utilizes 100% of any platforms involved. It would be impossible since it's not measurable. Advancements in programming mean just as much for graphics as the hardware that renders it.

"I act like you are a moron that pretends you don't understand what you just admitted."

Ie, the 360 must be more developer friendly and easier to get results out of than the PS3 since most multiplatform games look better on it. Multiplatform games are the best way to measure the graphical power of each console since the developers strive to get the same results on both machines. We don't know what exclusives would look like on either console. Who knows what Gears would have looked like on the PS3, or Uncharted on the 360? I bet you do, but most of us don't.

Why are you so eager to make me admit things if you are certain that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360? =)

Egzekutor5701d ago

Jenzo or Janzo whatever ur name is.. you dont read everything on the net do you ?

Give 2-3 years for the PS3 before you see some real games.. actually no.. wait until 09 to Killzone 2 , Heavy Rain and MAG.

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IzKyD13315701d ago

Congratulations jenzo, now are you ever gonna play baja edge of control? no
and motorstorm makes this look like an N64 game.....enjoy baja!

Why o why5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

why you punch him in the nose like that. Why'd you pack his fudge like that.

The question was simple Jenzo, will you answer it or will you dodge like a member of congress

CrazzyMan5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

Have you ever heard a word OPTIMIZATION, or LACK of OPTIMIZATION?

Do you really believe, that PS3 weaker in terms of graphcis, then x360, just because some game wasn`t OPTIMIZED properly for PS3 hardware?

PS3 has different architecture from pc/x360. And if it`s not OPTIMIZED, it`s like running Powerfull CPU in PC for rendering shader operations for games instead of using Graphic Cards, you will have a bad framerate.

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UNCyrus5701d ago

Jenzo is ignored by almost 100 users.... Your naivety and adolescent comments only promote your own fanboy agenda... you make me sick

jwatt5701d ago

Wow if you have a ps3 why would you buy this over Motorstorm 1 or 2?

juuken5701d ago

Poor Jenzo.
Guys, leave him alone man. I just heard a sniffle there. ;__;

robep35701d ago

WELL lets see the developers of this have had all the benefits of the 360's head start on PS3 whats that about 12 months+ depending on area you live and they have come up with a game that doesn't look as good as Motorstorm 1 nevermind 2 yes the 360 is more powerful you say LOL.
If you think that then this game should look as goos as MS2 PR SINCE THE 36O IS SO EASY TO PROGRAM and SO POWERFUL but doesn't would have been good if a launch title on either system but this far down the line it looks average!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob

JokesOnYou5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

Now sure most hardcore gamers care most about the defining console exclusives but myself and many other "regular" gamers buy multiplatform games in between the release of those exclusives. (No I'm not buying this game)

ha ha I don't think anyone in their right mind would use this game as the basis for what either console is capable of.....BUT, like it or not somewhere mixed in with Jenzo's obvious dig at ps3 is a valid point:

"360 must be more developer friendly and easier to get results out of than the PS3 since most multiplatform games look better on it."

yeah, yeah say whatever you want about ps3 being more powerful but at the end of the day unless a dev is willing to spend more time and money on ps3 then it seems the 360 has the upper hand, also 360 has better exclusive games now and coming in the near future imo, so I just don't get it when ps3 fans swear the ps3 is so much better(well I do get it, n4g is filled with pro sony folks)...I don't know but it seems ps3 folks are always talking about this theoretical potential of the ps3, and yes MGS4 is a great example but I still see games like Bioshock, Gears, Halo3, (Mass Effect minus the few framerate problems ha ha) and think "so what"....lmfao, to each his own I guess???

JOY

Why o why5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

well said, fair enough there is some truth in what Jenzo has said but whats his point, really? Devs didnt take the time because they didnt wnt to or they just cant get it to run the same. What was the lead on this game. How many games that were lead on the ps3 are better on the 360. See my point. PS3 guys will probably see M2 push the hardware more than any multiplat, thats a fact so screaming about framrate/tearing/whatever issues on a multiplat makes people look silly when you consider some of the exclusives on that console have issues like the one you mentioned.

Ill give it to you though JokesOnYou . Your comments have carried far more substance than flame of late.........dont tell me......pm me your psn name *wink wink*

thebudgetgamer5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

we should all burn our playsations this game is so great i cant play without wishing i had a 360
cheers jenzo

Homicide5701d ago

Does anyone even care? This is the first I've heard of this game.

Omniphobe5701d ago

^^^^^^^^^^^

Largest concentration of hypocritical fanboys on the site probably, holy balls. Honestly we all know the PS3 is capable of amazing sh!t but right now it's all talk no substance, come maybe the next two years and we'll have some substance. Depressing really how many people say that 360 fanboys outnumber Sony fanboys and how many of them say that they started it first. Bullsh!t all of it, and it's a pretty good laugh watching most of you go at it. Go ahead, disagree and prove my point. Jenzo probably started it first but theres times Sony starts first.

theEnemy5701d ago

This game is crap anyways.

Lazy developers.

edhe5700d ago

Good god, i love how the SDF jump onto people.

"It IS more powerful, if you spend 4 years working on it and it's exclusive so you can't compare it directly to anything else!"

"The 360 runs multiplatforms faster 'cos they suck, they're not exclusives! Only exclusives matter!"

Dear god.

Face it, the 360 runs games better. 360 lead games perform significantly better on the 360 than the ps3, ps3 lead games perform similarly.

The cell, blu-ray, it's all hype and misrepresentation. Anyone that bought into Sony's PR should've been parted with their hard earned cash for a product that's nothing what it was meant to be.

Now, Baja?.. skip.

Nineball21125700d ago

And you are full of it...

1. "Face it, the 360 runs games better."
Total fanboi statement, speaks for itself.

2. "360 lead games perform significantly better on the 360 than the ps3, ps3 lead games perform similarly."
Although, you try to be fair, you're still wrong since I wouldn't say EITHER perform SIGNIFICANTLY better. Slightly better... miniscule differences? Sure...

"The cell, blu-ray, it's all hype and misrepresentation."
See reply to #1 above.

"Anyone that bought into Sony's PR should've been parted with their hard earned cash for a product that's nothing what it was meant to be."
AND we have a winner for the most ironic statement today. Only a dyed-in-the-wool fanboi couldn't see that if you replace the word "Sony" with "Microsoft" that it's much more appropriate!

edhe5700d ago

Sorry what?

Produce something that proves otherwise.

For me there's plenty of comparison videos, hell GTA4 ran 25% less performant on the 'more powerful' console. Lower resolution & framerate.

Dude, what's your reply to that?

We could go count the eurogamer comparisons if you want, or wait are they all tainted? All lies?

There's no valid defence in the ps3 camp to say that it's 'more powerful' for gaming.

Nineball21125700d ago (Edited 5700d ago )

"@ 1.29
Sorry what?

Produce something that proves otherwise.

For me there's plenty of comparison videos, hell GTA4 ran 25% less performant on the 'more powerful' console. Lower resolution & framerate.

Dude, what's your reply to that?"

LMAO! Here's my reply to that, "Dude"...

Sam Houser (who is... you know... just one of the Rockstar Game founders) said in an interview on 1UP that he thinks the game looks better on the.... wait for it.... PS3!

http://www.1up.com/do/featu...

And I quote... "We're at a point now where the games pretty much look identical side by side. There's a slight difference in the way they look. I think that's to do with really low-level technical stuff that I'm not the guy to explain. The 360 games have a certain look to them; PS3 games have a certain look to them. I like the way [the PS3] renders. There's a certain kind of softness without being blurry -- some warmth to it -- and then there's a certain more clinical element to how the 360 looks."

So, now that I have "Produce(d) something that proves otherwise" (in YOUR words) SPECIFICALLY about the game you mentioned.

Now, try not to be such a Xbox fanboy in the future, eh?

edhe5700d ago

That's not evidence, that's someone's opinion. Doesn't matter how 'important' he is it's a personal opinion when i asked you for evidence of the ps3 being 'more powerful'.

Failtastic.

*this* is evidence:

(since eurogamer's down thanks to the LBP invites...:

http://216.239.59.104/searc...

Test One: Game Intro
360: 31.627fps
PS3: 26.504fps
See it on EGTV.

Test Two: Clean Getaway
360: 28.624fps
PS3: 23.989fps
See it on EGTV.

Test Three: Final Destination
360: 35.662fps
PS3: 29.523fps
See it on EGTV.

Test Four: Station Face-Off
360: 26.015fps
PS3: 25.803fps
See it on EGTV.

Test Five: Rigged to Blow
360: 26.507fps
PS3: 23.781fps
See it on EGTV.

Test Six: Ivan the Not So Terrible
360: 33.713fps
PS3: 28.313fps
See it on EGTV.

that's what 1/6th of a difference? 16% performance drop? And that's just framerate.
You take into account the drop in resolution:
( http://216.239.59.104/searc... )
630/720 = 0.875, leaving a 12.5% performance reduction.

Add that together in an arbitrary fashion and you find the defining metacritic topping Multiplatform game of this generation so far is running at approximately 25% faster on the 'old gen' 360 compared to the 'all powerful' ps3.

Ergo you're talking mince and anyone that implies that the ps3 is the more powerful games console is talking absolute mince.

Also - add that the 360 effortlessly upscales to 1080p output and well.. yeah. Mince.

Here's hoping that the ps3 and 360 keep battling this generation, only we benefit.

NB i don't think we've seen a 360-exclusive, 360-designed engine title designed to push boundaries, unlike the ps3. Gears doesn't count, since it's UE3, and not even Halo, since it was still the old engine cranked up.

People say that there's so much potential in the ps3, well if we see it then that's great. But there's a whole chunk in the 360 that's untapped too.

Nineball21125700d ago

Haha! Failtastic can only be used to describe someone (such as yourself) who contorts the idea that because of one game having (at most) 6 frames per second better performance that his system that he sleeps with at night is "more powerful".

Wow... just wow. I'm not sure I've seen a more sad attempt at self-assurance.

And if you actually READ my first post, I never said EITHER one was more powerful... But, hey... if 6 frames per second is the make or break for you on GTA IV, then... wow. I stand corrected. You have the UBER system for gaming and I concede your point.

Man... I could have had 6 more frames per second!! What was I thinking... regrets are terrible things to deal with, eh?

LOL!!!!

edhe5699d ago

Never study maths?

It doesn't comfort me at all, i find it curiously ironic that you completely deny the facts yet continue to preach on as if you're right and i'm wrong. It's pretty obvious that the ps3 is not what it's been marketed as, and never has been.

Except, maybe, a good blu-ray player whereas the 360 has always been a games machine + more, and has only improved on it's offerings, and delivered on it's promises.

Bar the tlod mind.

So my point was proven yet you're still spouting mince?

Arf i shouldn't bother, facts and reality don't apply here.

Nineball21125699d ago (Edited 5699d ago )

Study maths? You ever study English?

Do you even read what you spout off about? Show me anywhere in my posts where I have “denied” facts. You can’t and you know it.

The PS3 is more of an entertainment system (and yes, that includes GAMING) than the X360 is. That’s a solid FACT, not hyperbole.

Please, oh please enlighten me with this “+ more” that you tacked onto the end of “the 360 has always been a games machine + more”.

I’m really curious. More what? More frustrating from having to send it off if it RRODs? More expensive with any of the extras you have to buy for it to equal a similar PS3? More out of date with it’s DVD-9 tech?

You haven’t proven anything, other than “Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists of not exceeding that limit”. Well, you’re over your quota for the next month.

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chaosatom5701d ago

never even heard of this game.

IzKyD13315701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

jenzo has

rhood0225701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

Wasn't this the game that was supposed to be "better looking" than Motorstorm according to some previews?

Dmitry Orlov5701d ago

I've never heard of this game either.

@waiting for motorstorm next month
Next month 360 owners will be busy with Fable 2 and GoW 2 (well 1 month + 1 or 2 weeks). I'll be buying motorstorm 2 over this, but it really looks better on 360.

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chasegamez5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

ok hum why put out crap when motor storm
is right around the corner
Baja is trash

DavidMacDougall5701d ago

PS3 Version always wins because its on better hardware

DavidMacDougall5701d ago

No boy they look the same and the video dont take that smell of fire into account

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi5701d ago

...the xBot Lemmings Still can't find a game that looks better than -
GT5:Prologue
+
MotorStorm
on their xBox 360!!! ;-D

TRULY SAD that is!!! ;-D
(Well FUNNY!!!) ;)

Snake Raiser5701d ago (Edited 5701d ago )

Darn... I could swear that I have seen 3 side-by-sides from GT (They also gave MGS4 a 9.3/10) that have had the PS3 set to Grey Scale graphics. I have no Idea why Sony put in controls to make the graphics bad and gray scale and 480p, but they did. You can reset a PS3 to make the Graphics all gray.

Also why would the game look like this on PS3? Think about it people, I have a good point here I think. Motorstorm looks better than either of these. Why would it look worse 2 years later?

InMyOpinion5701d ago

From IGN's review of Armored Core: For Answer

"But as much as I love the Armored Core experience, it has its fair share of problems. Primary among them is a PS3-specific issue. The framerate on the PS3 version is downright awful during sequences of intense action, though luckily normal battles usually go by without a problem. I just couldn't seem to get the 360 version to slow down, even after launching hundreds of missiles and flying through a collapsing building. I was hoping that the optional PS3 HDD install would help a bit, but that's not really the case. Load times aren't even noticeably alleviated, which is a shame."

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

Stryfeno25700d ago

You know the 360 is the better version when these droids start to mention Motorstorm.

But, but, but Motorstorm is better...better I said.

Makidian5700d ago

First off that review you pulled is garbage, I played the Japanese demo back like six months ago and had zero problems with the framerate. The game is great and the battles are pretty epic, but I had no problems with stuttering or slowdown, not once. Second, not that many people care about AC and this is about Baja which I doubt that many people actually care about either. They always gimp the PS3 in the videos and everyone knows it by now so there is no point having a d!ck measuring contest on a game like this, it's a waste of time.

InMyOpinion5700d ago (Edited 5700d ago )

Is that so? IGN gave AC: For Answer 8/10, a very high score coming from them. Suddenly no one cares about it? ;) You sure you didn't play the 360 version? Maybe you got an extra special version developed solely for you? I think I trust IGN more than some deluded 4-D goggle wearing fanboy like yourself.

"The framerate on the PS3 version is downright awful during sequences of intense action, though luckily normal battles usually go by without a problem. I just couldn't seem to get the 360 version to slow down, even after launching hundreds of missiles and flying through a collapsing building. I was hoping that the optional PS3 HDD install would help a bit, but that's not really the case. Load times aren't even noticeably alleviated, which is a shame."

Downright awful. And to top it all, the optional install does nothing for the slow Blu-ay load times lol!

Can't wait to play the superior 360 version.

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jcfilth5701d ago

thanx but no, I'll stick to Motorstorm.

Both look the same, in some parts the 360 has more color and in others the PS3.

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Baja: Edge of Control Remake Coming to PS4, Xbox One

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It’s no secret that the Xbox 360’s lifespan is coming to an end, meaning we’ve got an extensive library of games to sort through and possibly trade-in to GameStop or EBGames. Because of this, used Xbox 360 games are incredibly cheap, and a lot of people might be spending this summer adding those last few games to their collections.

Time to round up the best racing titles in a Top 10 run down.

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mcstorm4003d ago

For me its forz4 forza horizon, forza 3, pgr4, pgr3 as my top 5

ZILLA4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

(fart)nobody cares

windblowsagain4002d ago

The list is a good arcade type racing list.

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BAJA: Edge of Control Review (RaceDepartment)

There are games with niche followings, and then there are games that absolutely nobody played. Baja: Edge of Control is one of those games.

Lost in the skyrocketing popularity of Call of Duty and Halo, Baja: Edge of Control quietly landed on store shelves in late 2008, a month before the two major shooting franchises released their yearly variations. And it sat there. After six months, those copies were moved to the bargain bin, and eventually, GameStop. Today, over five years after release, online leaderboards struggle to show more than ten or eleven people with registered lap times at most tracks. Online itself was a ghost town since launch day. People simply didn’t buy this game.

And that’s a shame, because Baja: Edge of Control is a title that any motorsports fan shouldn’t hesitate to add to their collection.

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