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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt vs. Horizon Zero Dawn, Who Did it Better?

Which is the better game, Horizon Zero Dawn or The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt?

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Majin-vegeta2619d ago

Both did it good and have set the bar high for open world RPGS.We won't see RPGS this good for another while.

UCForce2619d ago

Well, both of them did pretty well.

blitz06232618d ago

Honestly it's a toss up. Both games did some things better. I preferred Witcher 3's story and characters and how lively and well done the world was. But Horizon's combat, robot dinosaurs and fresh take on a post apocalyptic world is excellent.

uptownsoul2618d ago

Yes...I agree with all above. BOTH are great & I'm glad gamers get to enjoy both

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UCForce2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

@Shin-Zantetsuken The Story of Witcher 3 And Horizon Zero Dawn are different. HZD focus on Aloy Story and the old one. Witcher 3 story focus on politics, murder and most importantly finding Ciri. Let me put this way, HZD story is simple and easy to understand. Witcher 3 story is vast and more complex than previous Witcher games.

Edit : Let me repeat myself, I do enjoy Witcher 3 story and character. And I enjoy Horizon Zero Dawn Combat and beautiful graphics.

bouzebbal2618d ago

If Horizon is compared to the Witcher 3 then we are in for a threat and just this comparison makes Horizon winner in my eyes cause it's the first episode of a new IP.
Bravo Guerrilla, they just discovered a gold mine.

Ju2618d ago

I have the Witcher 3 on my HDD for maybe 6, oaths now but I never got further then the tutorial. I just don't have the time to wrap my head about a possibly story. It controls like the average and known rpg. Didn't really bring anything new to the table. If you are a die hard rpg fan, that game is from you.

But the Polish and story telling in HZD s another level above the Witcher. It's so easy to get into th game. It looks phenomenal better than The Witcher. If you are casual about RPGs but want to get a fix on a more complex game, HZD is that game. The action sequences are fresh, challenging and a great expansion of the genre.

thekhurg2618d ago

If I had to pick, Witcher 3 is the better game.

They're both amazing though.

kreate2618d ago

Witcher 3 did better. But horizon has the better gameplay.

KOIMOJO2618d ago

Seems like pretty much everyone here agrees. The Witcher has such a great advantage in adapting fantastic characters from novels. I absolutely love the character in the witcher 3, it's my favorite game of all time. But horizon still has a great mainline story and probably more compelling gameplay and those robots are just amazing. I think they both have a lot to learn from each other!

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Bigpappy2619d ago

The Witcher3 feels clumsy on the X1. I still hit into everyone in town after many hours of playing. The people and the towns lack personality. I not being pull back for more. It feels like I am trying to complete it because I finished TW2 and enjoyed that game then paid $60 for this one. Feels like it needs mouse and keyboard. I don't want to play it on PC. Don't want to start over either.

Takwin2618d ago

I played it on ultra settings on PC, but for third-person action adventures, I always use a controller. Mouse and keyboard gives a substantial edge in competitive games like FPS and MOBA, but these aren't competitive, so that is a moot point. For me, the mouse and keyboard is just inferior to analog sticks and comfort and muscle memory of a controller.

ShadowKnight2618d ago

It has a 89 on metacritic

TheFirstClassic2618d ago

How the hell does it feel like it needs mouse and keyboard, I bought it on pc but I would always use a controller for games like that.

S2Killinit2618d ago

As great as Witcher was it had some really annoying issues like trying to get unto your horse to escape was a toatal mess. The stupid horse would move at the last second, or if your werent just perfectly linned up you would miss the horse amd get killed. I hated that.

TheXgamerLive2617d ago

Your a funny boy "on the X1, huh". Sad. Just sad.

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Erik73572619d ago (Edited 2619d ago )

Why are we trying to compare the 87 metacritic average game Horizon to the 92 metacritic Witcher.

Why not the 98 metacritic Zelda? At Least Zelda is in the league of witcher in terms of critical acclaim

Goldby2618d ago

more like reputation when it comes to zelda.

Zelda may have brought new things to its own table, but in terms of open world RPGs/sandboxes, nothing new came from that game.

-Foxtrot2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

If this was compared to Zelda, like it has been in articles before this one, then people such as yourself would do 2 things

1) Bitch that the two games are "completely different" and shouldn't be compared

or

2) Brag about the 98 Metacrtic score (which it seems you've already done) and make a big deal over it despite the fact most people can agree, even those who like the game, that it's way overrated and does nothing special. The same people who think that "oooo I cut a tree down for some wood" has never been done in a video game before.

Which one will it be?

Oh and if we are talking about Witcher 3 or Zelda BotW...Witcher 3 is better.

2pacalypsenow2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Horizon is a 89 on Metacritic, not bad for a New IP. Maybe if Horizon Zero Dawn was a Zelda game, It would be at a 100 right now.

meka26112618d ago

Totally agree, I am thoroughly enjoying horizon, but everyone is praising it like it's the greatest game ever. The premise with the robot dinos is new, everything else has been done before, and better. Now bring on the salt!

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bluefox7552618d ago

Horizon has a higher user rating than Zelda on Metacritic. Zelda is held to a different standard by critics.

Sparta072618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Ok GUYS!!! I'll will be moving the post again cause these guys can't make up their minds.
Reviews matter now.
Except when it comes to Microsoft exclusives.
🤗

If you call an 89 metacritic average, I wonder what you think about your console of choice exclusives..

Goldby2618d ago

@Sparta

Whya re you bringing Microsoft exclusives into this conversation when its about Witcher, Zelda and Morizon, none of witch (hehe) are Ms exclusives

OrangePowerz2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

According to Metacritic GTA4 is also the best GTA game when it's more like the worst console GTA game.

As for the comparison between The Witcher 3 and Horizon both did an outstanding job. CD Projekt could draw from more experience in the field of making open world games, altough the combat does feel better and smoother in Horizon.

As for Zelda, it's from Nintendo and it is Zelda so it does get a few extra points like not really taking rating points away for an awful framerate that often goes down in docked mode. Look at Starfox Zero that has 36 positive reviews and many of them in the 80s altough the controls are completely garbage and writing the reviews in a way where they blame themselves for not having enough practice with the controls instead of just admiting that they are bad.

MasterCornholio2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Horizon has a metacritic of 89 at the posting of this comment.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

LP-Eleven2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

So we should compare the games based on Metascores, alone? Cool. Then I don't expect anymore Rise of the Tomb Raider vs Uncharted 4 articles (yes, this is utter nonsense).

OT: I haven't finished either of them, but I'll say they both have major strengths that make it hard for me to call it. Thankfully, I don't have to call it, I'll just continue to enjoy both games, regardless of which one "did it better".

ninsigma2618d ago

Well horizons gameplay is better than witchers so there's that.

DanteVFenris6662618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

@foxtrot literally no one that's played Zelda has said that. Just need to go to other places other than this toxic site.

@golby it's brought a lot new to the open world formula actually.

Zelda deserves its score.

leahcim2618d ago

Horizon is 89 and increasing with the passing of the days do not be surprise if ends in the "same league" of Zelda.

Stronk2618d ago

Can we stop overhyping Horizon in order to have it compete with Zelda? It sold more and it has better graphics, but none of those things decide the greatness of a game in the slightest. "If Horizon was a Zelda game, it would be at 100 metacritic score right now". Keep telling yourself that. If Horizon was a zelda game, ctitics would be beyond dissapointed with it's puzzles, variation in level-design, bosses, dungeons, and music. Oh, you guys haven't played the new Zelda so you wouldn't understand. (I've played this game since release and i've only beat one dungeon so far... so, how did you guys reach a conclusion on how "overrated" Zelda is one day after release? Says something about how much bullshit is being written here...)

Ceaser98573612618d ago

88 meta an average game?? LOL! so much of hate for no reason.. God! you guys even game bruh! Horizon is receiving amazing reviews but has to be people like you who would want to downplay it. Grow up!

Wallstreet372618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Lol got to love the insecurity and trolling ways...

I have both Horizon and Zelda and although Zeida is good I prefer Horizon by a good margin...

Horizon music is better
Performance is better with no drops whatsoever
World is denser with more npcs and enemies spread around
Graphics lol that isn't even up for debate Horizon is the technological marvel of this generation and new benchmark
Story is subjective but I prefer Horizons and just skip fast through Zeldas dialogye
Combat hands down Horizon, also cool @ss weapons. When I kill an enemy in Zelda it doesn't make me feel accomplished like in Horizon.

I just prefer and find horizons gameplay more fun all around. Witcher lol I dropped witcher after skellig as the combat was just so weak and boring and too much dialogue. No doubt about it if Horizon would have been name Zelda Breathe of Dawn it would sit at like a 100 meta right now. You had reviewers saying "first few hours in Zelda were better than anything they've played" really? Plateau is the beginning and almost stopped playing bcus it was so boring and slow luckily I kept going and things got better. Just shows reviewers bias.

I think the only thing I prefer or think Zelda does better is climbing and world is a bit more dynamic. Also gliding is great!!!!

by the way feel free to add me on switch just pm me Eddienx and Gemmonl who love Nintendo on this site already have :)

its_JEFF2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Too much emphasis on metacritic... battle of numbers over actually enjoying the game? I understand that the metacritic score of a game is "important" for this "war" that's going on. Its nice when a game gets a good score, a good score has pushed me to buying a game that I wasn't sure about, but that doesn't mean that the game met those expectations.

Picked up Witcher 3, mainly cause of the hype and the score, played for 15/20 hours... quit after that. Too much fluff, story didn't pull me in. Took me all of an hour to figure out that I did not like that combat system. I struggled to get to myself to play 15/20 hours of that thing.
Picked up Skyrim, cause of the hype and score, put about 10 hours into that game... wish I had quit at 2 hours in. Game felt boring and slow, combat was clunky. Kept playing cause I paid money for it. I personally don't give a poop about critical acclaim, games just aren't made for everyone... still, a lot of others liked it. I didn't go around sh*ting on their parade, like some on here like to do.

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rainslacker2618d ago

Horizon is closer to Witcher than Witcher is to Zelda.

And sure why not? Witcher and Horizon are actually more closely related in game play than it is to Zelda.

The only reason Horizon is being compared to Zelda now is because of the release dates practically being on top of each other.

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ColonelHugh2618d ago

@TomatoDragon

I think I found a glitch in the Matrix.

KOIMOJO2618d ago

I mean skyward sword has a 93 and that game blows. Game reviewers can't block out nostalgia when it comes to Zelda games. They're good but remove the names and reskin some things and it would lose 5-10 metacritic points easily. Just my opinion. It's possible that I just don't get something when ot comes to those games though.

Bathyj2618d ago

Thats the dumbest thing Ive read this week. You care THAT much about Metacritic? Youre literally saying the games cant be compared because of a 3 point difference in the rating?

nitus102618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Here is an interesting test.

If you have The Witcher 3, Skyrim or Dragon's Dogma (just to name three) take a look at the trees and see if you can find trees that look identical. In Zelda Breath of the Wild (you can look at the videos as well) also take a look at the trees. If you can't see what the developers have done in Zelda for foliage then I suggest you get glasses.

To be fair no matter which way you look at the backgrounds this still does not detract from the gameplay although you can contrast the sparseness of the Zelda landscape to the much more detailed landscape of the games I mentioned above.

Note: You can also contrast Horizon Zero Dawn's landscape which (from videos) looks extremely realistic. Zelda's landscapes don't look realistic being more cartoony however it is functional.

Old McGroin2617d ago

"Horizon has a higher user rating than Zelda on Metacritic. Zelda is held to a different standard by critics."

You seriously go by User ratings on Metacritic? Every negative User review for Zelda is no doubt actually a Sony fanboy jealous of the fact a game superior to anything else like it isn't available on the PS4. It speaks volumes of Zelda's quality that it has received a near perfect score from every reviewer out there, no matter how many petty excuses Sony fanboys come up with (nostalgia, reputation, ha!) they just need to get over the fact a near perfect game isn't available on their system.

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Overload2618d ago

"We won't see RPGS this good for another while."

Not the same kind of RPG, but Nier Automata and Persona 5.

mastiffchild2618d ago

Indeed, Nier looks like being amazing and we know how good P5 is already. Nioh was just out and really hit all its targets on quality terms while HZD and BotW are also.stunning adventures with RPG elements.

I see little reason why we should now get some RPG desert. There's loads of quality out right now with more on the way with ME A incoming and Ni No Kuni almost here too. Tons of it-Beseria is another I've got yet to start ffs.

joab7772618d ago

Exactly. It doesn't matter who did it better. Each raised the bar in their own way. I want to read an article about how games like Horizon and TW3 TOGETHER have set expectations for future open world rpgs!

Qrphe2618d ago

Horizon isn't an rpg, the Witcher barely counts as one

TFJWM2618d ago

They aren't jrpgs but they are most certainly rpgs...

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ2618d ago

Exactly, hard to tell right now. The Witcher 3 top the bar for me over Skyrim and so far I am enjoying my 1st PS4 game, Horizon! Horizon actually reminds me of The Witcher 3 in a lot of aspects, it's almost like the devs shared stuff with Guerilla. Horizon is def a lot easier to grasp than the Witcher which can be overwhelming sometimes but it's hard to say right now until I finish Horizon which one is the better RPG, so far Im leaning towards The Witcher 3 but not by much ;)

Relientk772618d ago

Two of my favorite games this generation. Both are absolute masterpieces

TheVetOfGaming2618d ago

I bought witches 3 last week on a pan sale, but I just can't get into it. I enjoy rpg games... I'm not sure if I'm just growing tired of gaming, or if it just isn't my game. The only thing thats stopping me buying HZD is if I spend $60 and feel the same about that.

Zarock2618d ago

Both are Pretty close but I'd go with The Witcher since the side quests In that game helped shape the ending

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yeahokwhatever2618d ago

..until mass effect in 2 weeks.

zaherdab2617d ago

@Erik7357 why not compare the user reviews of metacritic of horizon vs zelda ? user scores matter too .. if not more

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FallenAngel19842619d ago

How many games is Horizon going to be compared with

Dark_Knightmare22619d ago

It is nuts how many games it's been compared with its getting ridiculous. The next thing you know people will be comparing horizon and gran tursimo lol

Erik73572619d ago

People have always compared things, in human nature.

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Goldby2618d ago

alot of games have been compared to NMS, what does that tell you then?

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LexHazard792618d ago

@solid,

So in your world comparisons are made by the jealous. I compare alot of things. And its not because of jealousy!!

Example: So if I go to Best Buy to buy a TV and do comparisons of various brands...Am I jealous? Come on now dude...
Some of y'all get to sensitive on some topics.

badz1492618d ago

@Erik7357

Comparison is nature, right? And that's how most games are reviewed these days. But when it comes to Zelda, there's no need for comparison. It just need to be a good Zelda game and it's 10/10. Double standards!

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Ron_Danger2618d ago

I'm more impressed with the fact the a brand new IP is on par with the third game in a very successful series.

Ron_Danger2617d ago

@mandingo

You're missing the point. The Witcher 3 might be the better overall game (I wouldn't know, I haven't played it so I have no opinion) but it's the third in a very successful franchise, whereas Horizon is a brand new IP from a company who never made anything close to it.

It's like if (for example) the New York Yankees (a team that for years has been consistently successful with highs and lows mixed in) decided that for the next season they were gonna keep everyone on the team and head office but switch to the NFL (so staying in the realm of pro sports, just changing the sport being played) and in their first game they lose to the New England Patriots by a field goal. Would you focus on the Patriots winning and being better, or that an unproven team almost beat them?

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subtenko2618d ago

I wonder how it'll do against Drive Club

/s

InTheZoneAC2618d ago

OT:
Driveclub may be done, but you could pick up that game now or in a year and still be amazed at the detail, sense of speed, and how fun it is.

If you are a racing fan I promise you'll enjoy that game.

Takwin2618d ago

Well, it perfected systems present in a genre that includes many great games I played and enjoyed like Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Tomb Raider, The Witcher, Mass Effect, Batman, Shadow of Mordor, Dishonored, Deus Ex, and more.

To me, it takes the best of all of those games, combines them with the best combat system I've personally experienced in any third-person game, and puts that in a gorgeous, interesting, and unique setting.

Comparing things is totally fine.

rainslacker2618d ago

Notice it's being compared with what's considered to be some of the best games? Maybe because it's in the same league?

I'm waiting for the game to be compared to Rayman: Raving Rabids. So many similar mechanics...what with demented bunnies and out of control dinos.

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BlakHavoc2619d ago

Come on with these click bait articles

LucasRuinedChildhood2618d ago

To be fair, there is actually a bit of crossover between the Witcher team and the Horizon team. There's a reason Guerilla games suddenly have a game with good writing when that has been an area they've always struggled in. I think it's a fair comparison but it is true that we've seen a lot of clickbait articles on Horizon lately.

Overload2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

I think both are great, but I think Horizon does a lot of things better than the Witcher 3.

Horizon's combat first and foremost is the best in ANY RPG, the world of Horizon is better, the controls are better, the animations are better, the horse riding is better, horse back combat is better, the main character is better, the story is better, it's better from a technical perspective (it pretty much looks and runs like the target footage for TW3).

The Witcher 3 has deeper RPG mechanics (ranging from the choices to the approaches to your build) and deeper side quests.

Regardless of preferences, I can say this.... other studios better step it up, because Guerrilla Games is a legitimate contender in the RPG game now. Horizon was a fantastic first attempt and as they learn more about designing RPG's, they are going to only get better at it. The Witcher didn't start out at the quality level of TW3.

TheOptimist2618d ago

You do know that from an RPG perspective, Witcher 1 is the deepest among the 3, right? Witcher 1 was pure old school RPG, Witcher 2 was an ARPG which was focused more towards the RPG side, Witcher 3 was an ARPG that weighed the 'A' of the ARPG equally with that of an RPG. Horizon Zero dawn was focused more towards the 'A' part of the ARPG. I wouldn't call Horizon a deep RPG, rather an action adventure game with RPG elements, because it may have the progression on a charactorial level, but it doesn't have branching storylines and the degree of depth for an RPG. They are completely different games.

Overload2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

I'm just saying Guerrilla will learn how refine elements as they progress in the same way CDPR did with the Witcher series. This is GG's first attempt. People don't celebrate the TW1 and 2 in the same way as they do TW3.

Takwin2618d ago

You say some good stuff - you clearly understand the continuum of games withing the RPG universe, and indeed most games now are ACTION-adventure games with RPG elements. However, the last point you make isn't a good one. Horizon and The Witcher 3 are not completely different. They are ARPGs or third-person action-adventure, with TW3 leaning much more heavily on story choice and Horizon more on perfecting combat.

TW3 is my favorite game ever, but Horizon is probably my 3rd favorite, trailing only TW3 and TLOU.

InTheZoneAC2618d ago

Your own explanation basically said these two are similar, but then you say they're not

_-EDMIX-_2618d ago

Absolutely agreed I'm still not even sure how anybody could try to argue that The Witcher 3 has better RPG mechanics then the first the game.

They give you all of your moves in the beginning of the game in The Witcher 3
instead of you actually having to find all the ingredients to build up your potions and bombs when you need them you do it once and it auto generate so for you after you meditate.

So anyone trying to argue over which game is the better RPG you guys are basically trying to say the game that gives you all the things that you need absolutely for free at no cost in the game that actually gives you all your abilities in the beginning of the game is better than the one that actually has you progress, grow and add abilities.

I would argue that Horizon zero dawn has more RPG elements Than The Witcher 3 as at least I'm actually progressing this person's abilities.

When I actually need something in Horizon I just go ahead and crafts it I don't just simply meditate and it's given for free.

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Movefasta19932618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Bloodborne ,nioh and dragon dogma have better combat imo, this is no knock on horizon because it's an open world rpg but you said any rpg Dragon dogma has the best imo and it's open world

Overload2618d ago

Bloodborne is right there with it, in my opinion.

Movefasta19932618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

PC gamers celebrate tw 1/2 highly tho, PlayStation has a large audience that's a big factor to the hype behind tw3 Like civ is huge on PC but it's not on consoles so the hype behind it on a lot of gaming sites isn't as big

Masterchief_thegoat2618d ago

Play both but I take witcher 3 over bloodborne any day. One thing I pick bloodborne over tw3 is combat

Overload2618d ago

I agree to a degree, but there is no doubt the TW3 is what launched them into the status they have now attained.

Trez12342618d ago

The witcher 3 is fantastic but combat is really lacking compared to the games you've mentioned. Dragon's dogma has amazing combat and Nioh takes the cake for me when it comes to combat.

Bloodborne though.. I thought it was an unbelievable experience when I finished it. I then went back in after grasping the story and what was going on and wow. Transcendent!!

nitus102618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

@Masterchief_thegoat

I will agree that Bloodborne has a very aggressive combat style and in many ways so does The Witcher 4, however, the actual combat style of the TW3 depends on the difficulty level you choose. On Easy to Normal, you can basically just mash the attack button for most enemies however on "Blood and Broken Bones" and especially Death March" (The best IMHO) you really do need to consider heavy and light attacks as well as the use of potions, oils and signs.

In TW3 you can pause the game at any time (you can't do this in Bloodborne) however when selecting a bomb or sign the game will slow but it will not pause.

In TW3 you can reduce your difficulty if you encounter a difficult enemy but IMHO you are really spoiling the game for yourself since it is not difficult to pull back, explore a different area then get better weapons, armor, potions, oils and level up your signs. You can actually do the same thing in Bloodborne except you can't reduce the difficulty.

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KingKionic 2618d ago

Horizon is no Witcher 3.

Geralt remains the King this generation.

Sparta072618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

Your right!! Horizon is no witcher 3 and that's a good thing. . The combat alone on Horizon kills witcher 3. But I'm sure you know that cause you played Horizon right? RIGHT!?
No you didn't.
The king was replaced by the Queen. 😉

KingKionic 2618d ago

Looking a every gaming site no one feels Witcher 3 has been dethroned.

Witcher 3 clearly is a much bigger game and story then horizon so im not surprised.

Aceman182618d ago

I've played and beating the W3 love the game but the combat, animation, and feel of the game was clunky as hell. For the amount of time i put into HZD I'll say for me it's the better game of the two.

Im hoping other western studios take note of how this game was made and no longer use that clunky style in their RPGs.

Bathyj2617d ago

The Witchers story bored me and went on for too long. I quit when they all got drunk at the castle. Im guessing that wont happen with Horizon. The combat alone would keep me playing but I genuinely want to know what happens next.

Masterchief_thegoat2618d ago

Plus geralt bang two hot babe triss and yen ❤️

FunAndGun2618d ago

Plus he looked pretty sexy in the hot tub!

Sparta072618d ago

@ master, yeah I'll give you that, lol

Sparta072618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

" Looking a every gaming site no one feels Witcher 3 has been dethroned. "
😂 Sure pal.
The game with the clunky controls ( witcher ) has been dethrone.
Anybody can go to your history comments and how you been trying to down play Horizon day one.
As far as the story goes that's debatable. I haven't beaten Horizon yet I'm about 14 hours in, but I'm loving it.
I read it takes about 30hrs if you do the story alone and about 60 to do everything so that's a pretty big game. I think it took me about the same time ( without the dlc) to complete witcher 3.
So I have no idea what you mean by bigger game🙄.
I loved witcher 3 but I hated the damn controls

KingKionic 2618d ago (Edited 2618d ago )

I didnt mention how either game controls but looking at the overall reception of horizon i have yet to see anyone say it dethrones witcher 3 from any major gaming website.

Witcher 3 is definitely like masterclass this generation for sure.

starchild2618d ago

I had no problems with the controls. The whole thing about Witcher 3 having bad combat started with SoulsBorne fanboys who expected it to play like those games. The truth is, though, the Witcher 3 controls better and has better combat than usual for the RPG genre.

Do the SoulsBorne games have deeper, more refined combat? Yes, and they should, because that's the whole focus in those games. But that doesn't make The Witcher 3's combat bad. I enjoyed it and I had no issue with the controls in general. There's no way a game with bad gameplay would be one of the highest rated and most beloved games of the generation, I don't care how good the story is.

BlackTar1872618d ago

i wish i could like Witcher :(

The controls/ combat were horrible imo and really took me out of the game.

Witcher is one of those games i know is great and am sad i couldn't get over the controls and combat to enjoy becasue the Lore, the time period magic all that stuff appeals to me but the combat was lower tier compared to the rest of the picture in my opinion.

I haven't played Horizon yet and will do so once i beat Nioh.

_-EDMIX-_2618d ago

Completely agreed The Witcher 3 controls are absolutely terrible I like the game and I enjoy the lure of The Witcher but one of my biggest gripes was the controls.

Some of the gameplay Concepts was my next gripe because being a huge fan of the first Witcher game I actually completely hate what they did with the Witcher 3 you're no longer creating the Alchemy ingredients every time you need them they Auto generate after the first time you create them which is disappointing because what's the point of even playing the damn game if they're going to give you everything for free after you meditate?

Which brings me to my next gripe you could actually meditate anywhere in the game instead of specifically in front of a fire you could even meditate in front of enemies.

Smh.

People let me help you understand the first Witcher game with nothing like this they never held your hand and casually destroyed the game the way the third game did.

I also do not like that they gave you all of your abilities in the very beginning of the game I would have actually like that if they just said he lost his memory or he got hurt or the wild Hunt did some magic on him and he needs to reclaim all of his abilities.

This takes me to the story the main story in The Witcher 3 is absolutely terrible and anybody trying to pretend that it's this amazing game does not know what they're talking about basically you're given the run-around every damn Mission you go on you're going to find this person and every time you talk to somebody that have answers they ask you to do a irrelevant task after irrelevant task and then tell you a snippet of an answer you go to the next area and rinse and repeat over and over again I just never believed this would continue for the first two Acts.

This is absolutely a terrible way of doing this story I'm sorry but we're trying to find someone and I don't think talking to all of dandelions girlfriend or a horse race or trying to find someones wet laundry or any stupid crap like that is going to help the story it's just filler and run around.

Horizon zero Dawn puts the story in the Forefront of the game, within the main quest you are never asked to do anything irrelevant or that has nothing to do with the concept of the game everything is about finding this person as well as building the tribe and uniting the people.

Sparta072617d ago

@ kionic, my mom always said you can't argue with stupid, so I'll leave you alone.

@starchild, WTF is " soulsborne fanboys "!?
W3 controls is awful period!!!!!!
That was one of my main problems with W3 and many, many others.

Bathyj2617d ago

The Witcher does not have bad controls. (Unless you count Roach, Roach sucks arse). They were way better than Skyrim. But Witchers controls and indeed its combat are merely good.

But Horizons are sublime, Theres not really any debate here. Horizon is simply better in this area. Story, setting, blah blah blah, we can argue about that until the cows come home, but not controls or combat. And you can add graphics to that as well, at least on console.

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_-EDMIX-_2618d ago

You mean the game that auto generates all of your potions and bombs absolutely for free and then gives you the majority of your abilities at the very beginning of the game at no cost?

So yes Horizon zero Dawn is no Witcher 3, you actually build up your character and you actually have to craft everything you need there is no simply meditating and then here's everything for free.

The combat in Horizon zero Dawn absolutely murders The Witcher 3.

TW story is so terrible in the third game the majority of the game is this complete run around, literally the majority of the game goes like this I need to find where Ciri is can you help me ? can you do an irrelevant task for me and then at the ending of the series of missions I'm going to tell you one small bit of where she could be.

Go to different area and the next person that believes they know where she is gives you the same run around and repeat.

What's pathetic is that literally is the absolute bulk of The Witcher 3 story.

If you were watching an anime or any show you would actually consider the main story of The Witcher 3 actually filler.

starchild2617d ago (Edited 2617d ago )

So let me get this right.. the narrative is terrible, the controls are bad and the combat is horrible, yet it's one of the highest rated games of the generation and loved dearly by most of the gaming community? Seems legit.

_-EDMIX-_2617d ago (Edited 2617d ago )

@star- who said I said anything about narrative being terrible? The overall theme The Narrative of The Witcher 3 is find simply the execution of its story is actually very bad and terrible.

And as I recall it was you and I that were actually defending this game when it first released or guarding its downgrade issue, but I'm not going to defend the poor execution of the actual story as well as the changes they made to the gameplay that basically made this game casual for god sakes they're giving you items perfectly for free with zero cost.

I'm sorry buddy but I own the Witcher 3 and it's story is just absolutely terrible I still love the lore in the world of The Witcher series and I enjoyed the narrative in general but the actual execution is one of the worst I've seen in a game in a pretty long time basically the entire game is filler and giving you the runaround of irrelevant stories for god sakes at some point you're doing a horse race to get the answers to something...,..

After you get one answer you basically go up on another irrelevant West and rinse and repeat this is almost the entire game.

I was okay with the baron Mission simply because I felt it was simply going to be like a larger tutorial to set up for the concept of the game I never knew literally the whole damn game was going to be this ridiculous red herring run around of fillers

Be like " the pigs got loose from the stable I'll tell you where your friend is if you bring them back"

" I need something from the market be a dear and get the correct armor that I need and I'll tell you where your friend is Maybe"

LMFAO!

I mean of course I'm joking and being facetious but to be honest what I'm telling you is not even that far from what was going on in this game almost to the point where I was in disbelief some of the missions that were in the game as main missions.

Please don't exaggerate the combat, it's a very bad inside of this game I only like The Witcher because of The Narrative of going from town to town in fighting contracts, the main execution of the story is bad, in the controls are not Devil May Cry or anything like that so please let's not try to pretend as if their revolutionary or feel great.

Most of the Gaming Community didn't even play the first Witcher to even understand just how terrible some of the mechanics were in The Witcher 3 I'm sorry but there's no excuse for the game allowing you to meditate anywhere at anytime even in front of enemies and then rewarding you by giving you free bombs and Potions every single time at no cost

I basically stopped collecting items in the game cuz there was no point I was being given everything for free like a child.

If Call of Duty was highly awarded like The Witcher 3 would you seriously and defend what you know or terrible game mechanics?

Buddy all you have to do is look back at the original comments when The Witcher 3 was getting bombed for the downgrade and you will know we're right there side by side defending it but just because I'm a fan of The Witcher series doesn't mean I'm going to lie about this games shortcomings.

I might be a fan of the series but I have to be honest about how I feel about this game's shortcomings and its tremendous.

I haven't even got started on the numerous bugs and glitches that still actually plague this game.

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Sony Has Added More Titles To The List of Games Leaving PS Plus In May 2024

Sony Interactive Entertainment has added a few more titles to the list of games that will be leaving PS Plus in May, 2024.

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darthv722d ago

curious... if a game leaves PS+, does it make it unplayable if you have already claimed it before it leaves? I know on the XB side, games leaving Gamepass are no longer playable. You need to pay for them to be able to continue playing after you installed them from GP.

CrimsonWing692d ago

The 3 monthly “free” games you keep as long as you have PS+ subscription. The PS+ library is like Netflix. They rotate stuff out and replace them with other titles.

MrNinosan2d ago

Yes, PS+ Extra/Premium games are unplayable after the leave the service, just like GamePass and Netflix.
PS+ Essentials games are available as long as you have an active PS+ account.

Profchaos2d ago

Monthly games, special promos like the free games during COVID or PS plus bundle on ps5 are forever yours. Premium and above are time limited

If you claim a game on the premium tier (not yours to keep) and it comes out as a monthly games later e.g. fallout 76 it appears you do not retain ownership on that one.

Notsofast2d ago

The 3-4 monthly games that are free that are part of every service are yours forever I canceled my service over a year and you never lose access. I dont know what these other comments are talking about maybe they are in a different country but in the USA I could play any game I claimed of the free monthly games

MrNinosan1d 15h ago

Then one of the accounts on your PS5 probably has a PS+ Essential subscription.
Because the 3-4 PS+ games you get every month, is not available to be played if you don't have an active sunscription.
It's the same in US, Europe, Japan and everywhere else.

Petebloodyonion1d 15h ago

Essential stays in your library
Extra and premium become locked when titles leave the service.

It's actually one of my gripes with Extra, you can't remove the title from your own library, so basically it countss as one your title but it's locked so you own library become a cluster F... unless you filter your titles.

MrNinosan1d 15h ago

Well you can just chose to hide them.

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-Foxtrot2d ago

Wonder if Horizon ZD leaving gives credit to those remake rumours

Sigh. If true…another remake that’s not Bloodborne.

SimpleDad2d ago

Probably yes cause of a remake.

Skuletor2d ago

I still remember them giving that one away for free, regardless of if you were subscribed to Plus or not

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They did. It was during the pandemic and the "play at home" initiative.

Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition. Sony gave away a lot of games just to push gamers to stay home and not get infected by COVID.

Eonjay2d ago

I think you're right.
There is a separate Bloodborne rumor by the remake is allegedly scheduled for next gen.

Kingrizzy902d ago

Yes cause of the remake good thing I got the plat
And is bloodborn really that good? I never played it due to being Incarcerated 8½ years but I read the comics. It's pretty dark

Profchaos1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Highly likely I also bet the remaster will be over priced and under whelming.

I'd also bet most people will simply stick with the PS4 pro and ps5 60fps patch over paying to upgrade when it offers the bare minimum.

I hope Sony has learnt from the last of us 2 and stop remastering games that just came out they have nearly 30 years of content to work with but always remaster games that are like 5 years old and don't need it. I assume this was In development alongside tlou2 so fingers crossed this is the last time we get this because what's next god of war on PS4 to ps5 for 70 dollars probably anything outside of bloodborne

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Friendlygamer2d ago

Glad I played sundered and the messenger, both great 2d games

gold_drake2d ago

ahh the messenger is such a good game.

u should play sea of starts. same people, its a sort of prequel to the messenger tok

Friendlygamer1d 15h ago

Oh I will definitely play it eventually, chained echoes too

Jingsing1d 18h ago

Can N4G adopt a policy of games leaving subscription services as not being a new story, it is just spam at this point.

Petebloodyonion1d 15h ago

Is it me or have there been a lot of great games leaving the extra tier but barely anything in terms of wow factor joining the service in return?
When was the last time that Sony added a PlayStation studio game?
Now I don't expect Sony to have day 1 like Gamepass but I would expect to at least care to make the offering interesting especially when they raised the price by 30% last year.

MrNinosan1d 15h ago

PS Studio Games:
May - Destiny 2: Lightfall
April - MediEvil, Jak&Daxter: The Lost Frontier,
March - CoolBoarders

What Playstation Studio games is it you're missing?

Petebloodyonion1d 13h ago

Sight...
let me check my comment again
" Is it me or have there been a lot of great games leaving the extra tier but barely anything in terms of wow factor joining the service in return? "
Yeah pretty sure I mentioned the EXTRA tier and not the PREMIUM tier
but glad that you consider a DLC to a free-to-play game a great offering

MrNinosan1d 10h ago

I repeat my question, what PS Studio games is it you're missing?

And regarding the first part of your comment, lots of great games leaving and nothing added?

What great games iyo has left the service?
For me, "wow-factor games added would be".
Dave the Diver, Tales of Kenzera, Raji, Miasma, The Outer Worlds, Resident Evil 3, Ace Attorney, Rainbow Six Siege, AC: Valhalla, Far Cry 6, Watch Dogs Legion, Both Southpark jrpgs, Fenyx Rising, Tales of Arise, Session, Lego Worlds, Vampire the Masquerade Swansong, Legends of Mana....

And many more.

Compared to what has been removed, the adds are better than the 'offs'.

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The 7 Best Western RPGs: Immersive Adventures

RPGs are often huge, sprawling endeavours. With limited playtime, we have to choose wisely, so here's the best western RPGs available today.

SimpleSlave33d ago

"I started playing games yesterday" the List... Meh!

How about a few RPGs that deserve some love instead?
1 - Alpha Protocol - Now on GOG
2 - else Heart.Break()
3 - Shadowrun Trilogy
4 - Wasteland 2
5 - UnderRail
6 - Tyranny
7 - Torment: Tides of Numenera

And for a bonus game that flew under the radar:
8 - Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden

DustMan33d ago

Loved Alpha Protocol in all it's glorious jank. Great game.

SimpleSlave33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Not only glorious jank, but the idea that the story can completely change depending on what you do, or say, or side with, makes it one of the most forward thinking games ever. The amount of story permutation is the equivalent of a Hitman level but in Story Form. And it wasn't just that the story changed, no, it was that you met completely new characters, or missed them, depending on your choices. Made Mass Effect feel static in comparison.

Alpha Protocol was absolutely glorious, indeed. And it was, and still is, more Next Gen than most anything out there these days. In this regard at least.

Pity.

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Given the medium's wild diversity, this primer of the essential video games everyone should try is a good place to start.

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thorstein57d ago

.... from the 2000s (mostly).

shinoff218357d ago

I can't fk with this list. They missed on alot of games probably before the writers times. Also I know people loved some portal but I was never a fan.

Cacabunga57d ago

Tomb Raider 1
Driver 1
Abe’s Odyssey
FF6
King of Fighters 94
Mortal Kombat OG
LINK 2 the past
Street Fighter 2
Resident Evil 1

Inverno57d ago

Infinite but not the first two games? Witcher 3 but not the first two games?? GTA V but not literally any of the games before it??? Portal 2 but not the first? Also if you're going to play Shadow of The Colossus play the remaster and not the remake. Can't say I disagree with the list but my man it's all over the place.

Name Last Name57d ago

I mean some sequels are objectively better and you don’t need to play the whole series.

Inverno57d ago

But most of these games have a story to follow, sure you can catch up with a YouTube vid but where's the fun in that?

LucasRuinedChildhood57d ago (Edited 57d ago )

A list like this isn't telling you not to play the previous games if you want to. It's just giving you legendary games to play.

But tbh, you don't always have to force yourself to play every entry in a franchise to get to the better ones.

- The vast majority of Witcher 3 players never played the first 2 and had a great time. The first 2 games aren't in the same league.
- The GTA games are self-contained with the odd fun reference. You can easily jump into any of them.
- The Shadow Of The Colossus remake looks and controls better than the original (plus it has a 60fps option while the remaster is just 30fps). New players will enjoy it more.
- Portal 2 is a lot better than Portal 1 and takes the concept much further gameplay-wise. Storywise, Portal 1 is fairly light too. Not that you shouldn't play it but realistically ... you'd love Portal 2 whether you play it or not (at lot of Portal 2 players have never played 1).

Bioshock 1 is the only one I agree with you on simply because it's one the best games of all time and arguably better than Infinite. No other setting like Rapture.

Looking at the list, I'd recommend playing Uncharted 1 before 2 but no doubt, 2 is the legendary one you have to play.

Inverno57d ago

I get it, but that's just my opinion on his opinion. I just think that before you play a sequel you should still play what came before it. Maybe it's just me but i find it fascinating playing through the first game in a series and seeing how it has evolved through its sequels. Like I said I don't disagree with the list, other than SoTC which I strongly believe the remaster of the original should be played above the remake.

AuraAbjure57d ago

Awesome list! Hot take on Fear (and it's hard af expansion Persaus Mandate!) Bioshock Infinite is stellar, so is the Witcher 3 and you nailed it by having Ocarina of Time. So many fantastic games! Gotta play 'em all! Next one on my list is Prey after I beat Dead Space 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

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