AMD may never be able to catch up with Intel. With the reviews of the Ryzen processors being absolutely disappointing.
During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”
It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.
Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.
I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.
Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?
If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.
Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".
Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.
The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.
In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.
So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.
Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)
The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.
@Versus
They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.
They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)
PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.
But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation
All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective
It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.
This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.
Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.
Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.
Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?
I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!
No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.
Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.
This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.
An official PlayStation VR2 adapter for PC made by Sony is being certified. It won't be long before the VR headset is officially compatible.
one step closer to unlocking the headsets full power.
I'm extremely underwhelmed with how Sony has treated it's psvr2 customers seriously Nintendo treated it's Wii U owners of which the sales were probably equal in the headsets 2bd year v the consoles far better.
This is the least they could do
I agree. I'm a day 1 consumer too. 😢 For my day 1 Vita. I do not like when Sony does that crap.
I still don't have PSVR2, but this was always my concern. I almost pulled the trigger for RE4, but I waited it out to see what changed. As it happens, not much.
I love my Vita. Great piece of hardware. It didn't shine the way we know it could have, but it'll still got amazing titles.
PC support is very much a step in the right direction. Even if some PC only titles can make use of the headset, it does increase PSVR adoption: it's a great piece of hardware and it's also the best in its price bracket, so I see a way forward for uptake. Who knows? Maybe that'll allow VR devs to feel more comfortable releasing on PS5.
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Agreed, but to your point, those dollars went a lot further back then than they do now. This should have been a consideration from the beginning.
Imagine buying a monitor or tv that could only work with one device. That's basically what this equates to, so they left a LOT of money on the table by not making it PC compatible from the getgo. But to Sony's credit, even they were unaware of how popular their games would be once released on PC.
No credit to Sony on this one I’m afraid, first party and generally Sony support for psvr2 really hasn’t been great
@poppatron yes, I wasn't implying the PSVR2 games became popular or well supported, only that Sony was considering the PC market an afterthought. I imagine more people will want to buy this when it works with PC. I know I will, as I play on both.
I doubt there will be foveated rendering implemented on PC. PSVR2 is already a better experience than PCVR. PS5 Pro will unlock the full power.
Probably not but not all psvr2 games use fov many are just straight ports from quest systems which barely take advantage the headsets capabilities.
Still I'd rather have more options and games to play on this than a tiny LIbrary
so now Sony is going to sell me an adapter I have to buy so I can use the headset on my PC? Gee, how generous of you :P
While it's great that I will be able to use this headset instead of my Index or Q3 for PC only VR titles, it's still a sad realization that Sony is sorta waiving the white flag here. Here's hoping they at least make some of their PSVR2 exclusive content available on PC as well now.
I don't see it as waving the white flag. PSVR the first one even though modders did get it working on pc it was a awful experience.
PSVR2 one of the best VR headsets available. Requires just one usb c cable. Even though I truly believe exclusives are what sell consoles. When it comes to VR it's very nich among gamers. I'm ecstatic that soon I can imo use the best VR headset on both ps5 and pc. No need for a pc vr headset. I have said it since PSVR2 was announced that I hope they make it pc compatible. With it being a very expensive headset and pc vr being more popular it just makes sense for Sony to do this.
as opposed to a Quest 3 that requires no cables, or a single cable if you want to pair it with your PC right? ;)
While the tech is better in the PSVR2 for the most part (I own an Index, Q3 and PSVR2), I'm still let down by certain things. Headset rumble is a novelty. Eye tracking has only been used well on a couple of titles.
to each their own I guess, but to me this doesn't give me confidence that Sony is fully investing in their own hardware, more like they are stepping back to allow others to fill in the gaps.
@Neonridr not owned a quest 3. Did own a quest 1 and 2 both where fairly good. Have used a quest 3 for a limited time and thought it was fine. But comfort wise not as nice as psvr2.
Tried using quest 2 via wireless streaming to my pc and it was so bad I much rather using a single cable and have a solid connection than streaming the game from pc to headset.
Replies(2)It's most likely just going to be a usb c to usb 3 adapter. Even for modern era a lot of new cases and motherboards don't have a usb c ports.
The budget but still fairly fairly high end pc I recently helped my friend build. He went with a b550 motherboard. Didn't have a usb c port or a on board socket to connect a pc case with a front panel usb c. Had to get a cheap pcie usb c.
They developed the headset/attached usb c cable so that it wasn’t possible to run through any port other than a designated ps5 port. The adapter allows all the data to be passed correctly to a none designated ps5 port.
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The game engines and windows can be patched. During the bench marks for DX12 AMD was crushing NVidia. Now NVidia has updated there drivers and flipped those bench marks. I don't know that this will happen for Ryzen, but it could.
I think a lot of the testing so far is rather misleading. Ryzen is an incredibly powerful CPU and in tests that are designed to take advantage of high core and threads you see it doing very well. Mostly outperforming Intel and definitely outperforming Intel in operations per dollar.
But when it comes to gaming the software itself is based around a four core system and isn't taking advantage of Ryzens extra cores and threads. I was watching someone benchmark games and game after game the Ryzen was only using 25-35% of the cores/threads power. When gaming software catches up and takes advantage of higher core/thread counts Ryzen will shine.
This happened at the start of multi core computing where single core processors that were able to run at higher frequencies at first outperformed dual core processors. That was until the gaming companies really started pushing threading. And well the rest is history. Now you can't even buy a single core processor. Ryzen is ahead of the curve and a great value option.
For me getting 10% higher FPS doesn't outweigh the multitasking ability of Ryzen. If you stream games (or do video editing to upload to YouTube) I can guarantee Ryzen will be able to stream (capture) and play better than a 4 core 7700k. Or for me, I often play a game on one monitor and watch a movie or a stream on another monitor Ryzen is much better for that.
I watched Linus Tech Tips review and they looked really good.
A Lot of people dont understand that. Drivers... Bios and other updates need to come out for these CPUs. I seen lot of people shit talking these but yet they still pack a punch even if not fully up to par. But cost 1/2 of what Intel is selling. people would be saying this 1 or 2 years later when Zen is a monster and at its peak
the consoles will keep amd alive for as long as it takes for them to beat intel