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Will Horizon Zero Dawn's Success Bring the End for Killzone?

What does Horizon Zero Dawn's success mean for the future of Killzone?

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VaporCell2612d ago

Why no? They certaintly haven't forgotten about it. Pretty sure they will revisit it wth all their gained knowledge slecially since they have kojuma

blitz06232612d ago

The Last of Us didn't end Uncharted. GG is as capable of carrying 2 franchises like ND, so it wouldn't be surprising to see them make KZ5 and potentially end it there, then make a sequel to Horizon the same way ND just ended Uncharted and is now on TLoU2

nX2612d ago

My hope is that they now work on substantial Horizon DLC as well as a new Killzone with a much darker story than Shadowfall.

InMyOpinion2612d ago

Probably the other way around. Horizon's success will help Guerrilla to continue making Killzone games. Now they have two IP's to alternate between.

IamTylerDurden12612d ago

Just like Naughty and Uncharted/TLoU, i think Killzone and Horizon will be GG's two ongoing franchises.

SweetLeafSmoker2612d ago (Edited 2612d ago )

I don't think so... go look on Guerrilla Games official website... within the last 36 hours they just posted 8 new job openings...

https://www.guerrilla-games...

something tells me they are already looking to grow their team off the success of Horizon: Zero Dawn.... they ain't fucking around.

Killzone and Horizon are both here to stay.

Ausbo2612d ago

They must be doing well because usually hiring doesn't take place until development ramps up for a game. Usually staff is thinnest after launching a new game

_-EDMIX-_2611d ago

Lol

I didn't know that that's actually really good to hear

Bigpappy2612d ago

I don't see why. A franchise should end when a developer looses passion for it and good ideas are hard to come by.

_-EDMIX-_2611d ago

Agreed why does it need to? Sony could just have another team work on the Killzone series.

Infamous did not spell the end to Sly Cooper

Resistance fall of Man the not spell the end to Ratchet & Clank

even Uncharted did not spell the end of Jak and Daxter as naughty dog actually confirmed they were working on Jak 4 at some point.

They're going to make Killzone for as long as the developer has ideas and concepts for the future of the series .

I believe Sony might do it if they feel that they need to fill in a gap in the first person shooter category or if the developer has enough ideas to justify its existence

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rolando1232614d ago

I could these them do a sequel for Horizon in the next few years so say bye to Killzonr

BozoLoco2613d ago

Excuse my ignorance but does Guerrilla own the Killzone IP? Could another dev take over?

Rimeskeem2613d ago

I'd assume they do as they own GG.

I would also find it hilarious if Sony let Bungie take over killzone.

bigpiece2612d ago

sony doesnt own bungie that would never happen...

shadowknight2032612d ago

Activision owns Bungie. So no to Bungie and Killzone. Plus ever heard of Destiny? Yeah Activision wouldn't let that money go...

rezzah2611d ago

Bungie would ruin KZ.

PLAYWATCH762612d ago

Sony owns Guerrilla so Sony owns Killzone IP.

Razzer2611d ago

Exactly. So if someone else does Killzone then it would be a second party situation.

Killzone isn't dead, imo. But I think Guerrilla has moved on to better things in Horizon.

_-EDMIX-_2611d ago

Sony Computer Entertainment owns Guerilla Games

Sony Computer Entertainment owns the intellectual property to Killzone

-Foxtrot2613d ago

Like I've said if they want to experiment with a SPIN OFF which is third person and you get to explore a massive map on Earth dealing with a Helghan invasion as your community tries to fight back then I wouldn't mind seeing that. Maybe set in the suburbs or something.

Would change things up a bit. Long as it's a spin off and not a main game ruining it's FPS franchise roots then I don't see the problem. I just feel GG make better open world/third person games which show off more of what they can do.

_-EDMIX-_2611d ago

I just don't see that happening killzone's concept is deeply embedded into actually being a first person shooter based on what you physically doing that game.

The idea of the game is more so a physical thing so it's very difficult to try to get that same thing from a third person shooter when the idea of the game was never really made it to be that.

That could sort of work with RPGs where the idea of the game is more so conceptually than literally where perception is irrelevant but it being a first person shooter is kind of about it being in first person in the first place.

If this was a game that had more to do with what you did then how it felt then I would agree with you but there's too much that's done inside the first person perspective to actually suggested to be that.

I mean they would probably be better off simply just making a new intellectual property.

Outside_ofthe_Box2611d ago

No.

Having a third person Killzone would be weird as heck. Like a first person Uncharted would be weird too.

It isn't that GG makes better open world games it's that when they don't have to worry about appealing to a wide audience but rather worry/focus on making that they want to make, the end result is fantastic.

Look at KZ2, it was one of the best MP FPSs of it's time. Then you look at KZ3 and Shadow Fall which both had one thing in common which was the attempt to appeal to a wider audience and both suffered as a result.

GG just has to make a game sticking to their vison without having to worry if it will be popular.

-Foxtrot2611d ago

Urgh

Keyword...SPIN OFF

Not a main game

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Killzone wasn’t a Halo killer, but a PS5 remake could come close

The first Killzone game never met lofty expectations of dethroning Xbox’s Halo, but if any game needs a PS5 remake, this is the one.

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Vits101d ago

I like Halo, but I don't think there is any need for a 'Halo Killer' at this point. If anything, the franchise is slowly undermining itself by making some of the dumbest mistakes possible. Infinite has finally reached a good point in terms of multiplayer, but it took an extra 2 years to get there. Meanwhile, the single-player experience is fine but rather mediocre when compared to the franchise peak.

That said, I would like to see the Killzone franchise back, if anything, to offer more variety to the PS5 exclusive catalog.

_SilverHawk_101d ago

sony should remaster all killzone games and bring back killzone multiplayer that is very similar to the style of killzone 2 multiplayer.

Cacabunga100d ago

Halo killed itself after Halo Reach.
Killzone went a little down in quality with SF on PS4 and I wish they kept them coming..

InUrFoxHole101d ago

??? Halo is doing great right now. I wouldn't mind seeing a kz2 mp rebirth

Cacabunga100d ago

Spawn grenade tactician class my favorite..

darthv72101d ago

I'd love a killzone trilogy, fully remastered on a single disc like they did with Uncharted. Maybe they could make it the full killzone saga including PSP and Vita games converted to console.

REDGUM101d ago

Yes please. Put me down for a copy, price irrelevant too. Loved allow those games in the franchise :)

Chocoburger101d ago

I've never liked the idea of a 'franchise killer', why can't both thrive, without one killing off the other? Its such a childish mentality.

That being said, if there ever was a true 'Halo killer', then it would have to be 343 Studios, and the Xbox division. They're doing a fine job killing off their own IP, apparently.

Profchaos101d ago

Cause console wars mostly drove the halo v killzone thing

Eonjay100d ago

And media co.panies like IGN drove the console wars for clicks.

Profchaos100d ago

@eonjay
Yeah and I still cringe super hard when IGN runs their next gen console watch segment 3 years into the consoles lifecycle we are approaching midgen likely by December and they are out there milking clicks like it's mid 2020 and were starved for information

ModsDoBetter101d ago

Halo doesn't need to be killed, they've done that themselves. It's a shell of its former self.

Zeref101d ago

And yet Halo is still here. Where is Killzone? Resistance? Haze? All the supposed "Halo Killers" are dead franchises 😂

DarXyde100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

"Dead" really isn't the right word for any of these franchises (except Haze). You're also calling these games dead for different reasons. oIMyersIo is saying a Halo is dead because it is not what it used to be and is saying it has gotten much worse. You are saying those franchises faded into obscurity and no one cares. I also find it funny that your first reaction is to name PlayStation franchises because you perceived their comment as a slight against Xbox. I hope you're at the very least part of their ambassador program...

Anyone that sees Killzone as dead is pretty myopic. A decade since their last Killzone, but they themselves have developed two full games since Shadow Fall. That's not many in context at all.

Resistance is a bit less clear. Insomniac is pretty tied up at the moment. Including all of their games on all platforms and ignoring Spider-Man Remastered, we're looking at 23 games since Resistance 3. That's alarmingly prolific and still no R4. My guess? In the modern era, a new Resistance is probably going to have to be a live service and Insomniac is not that studio.

I don't think it's dead though. Not at all.

Gaming4Life1981100d ago

Halo infinite is still the best exclusive fps and is doing great but you think it's dead lol. Its also one of the top fps games out here so i dont get where your coming from. Just because you don't play it does not mean it's dead or dying.

I liked killzone 1 & 2 and I think Sony should bring it back along with resistance cause they are in need of more variety in their first party lineup. Sony & MS are sitting on some great franchises that need a revival.

ModsDoBetter100d ago

"Just because you don't play it"

And there your argument was derailed.
Through making such an assumption, you have only served to show that your response is that of a fanboy and any criticism of your beloved franchises is met with speculation in order to downplay any counter argument.

As a matter of fact, as many in team blue on this site will tell you, I often do defend Xbox just as much as I defend PS, so for you to make such a silly comment is laughable.

I have played plenty of Halo: Infinite - on Series S, Series X and PC via Steam. To say the game comes anywhere near the franchise greats such as Combat Evolved and Halo 2 is delusional. The franchise is a shell of its former self and that is a FACT.

It absolutely isn't the best fps exclusive but at this point we're arguing over preferences which is pointlessly subjective.

Where I do agree is that a Resistance comeback would be great for Sony.

DrDoomer101d ago

I'd take Killzone and Resistance over Halo any day.

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DF Weekly: Do we actually need The Last of Us Part 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn remasters?

With the details we now have in terms of features and pricing, I don't think there are any significant concerns remaining - just that perhaps that the term 'remastered' in the title is a little misplaced. Essentially, what we're dealing with here is broadly equivalent to a release along the lines of Death Stranding: Director's Cut. It's the original game with a dash of extra content and additional visual modes that tap into the power of PlayStation 5.

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-Foxtrot150d ago

Bloodborne, Infamous, Killzone, Resistance, Puppeteer, Jak and Daxter etc are all better choices

Even a full on remake of Drakes Fortune I’d take

PrinceOfAnger150d ago

killzone 2/3 definitely a better choice, i have recently finished the games on pc and thought about that, a full remake like demon souls is even better

darthv72149d ago

2&3 are still fine... I'd take the first one as a full remake before the others. They could flesh out more of the backstory that the sequels touch on. Even go deeper into the lore of Helgan.

specialguest149d ago

KZ 2/3 would be amazing. KZ 2 was a graphical masterpiece back then. With today's modern tech, all of those tricks Guerilla Games did to create the effects like the lighting, storm effects, etc, they could now be done in real-time and more realistic

Cacabunga149d ago

Killzone 2-3
Golden Abyss remake
Infamous 2

RaidenBlack150d ago

Uncharted 1 still got a decent remaster for 8th gen ... a remake is not that much of a requirement ...
instead remake candidates should be from 5th or 6th gen
and as for proper remasters (not just lazy res upscale): Killzone 2 & 3 obviously and also Resistance/inFamous (as well as MGS4 :P)

-Foxtrot150d ago

My point with the list is that I’d rather see those titles than what we are getting…titles which are only 3-5 years old and still hold up today

CrashMania149d ago

Sony own the Demons Souls and Bloodborne IP, I wish they'd do something with Bloodborne at the very least.

vfl523149d ago

The way you worded that makes me think you don't realize they already remade demon souls

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GamingSinceForever149d ago

Not one of those will sell more copies than TLOU2 Remaster. The sooner we realize that these gaming sites and their followers are less than 1% of the buying public the better off we’ll be.

Sure we prefer newer titles but this is business and a business is what Sony is running.

JackBNimble149d ago

Don't you think they could be doing something better with their time and money, like maybe making something new? Or have they become lazy and just reliving the past with the same old games over and over.

Gez ... do something fresh and new already .

notachance149d ago

I'd rather for them to go Square Enix route and remake/remaster their PS1 libraries instead of these unnecessary remaster

come on, legend of dragoon..

Gamingsince1981149d ago

What's with the "need" anyway ? This is video games, no one needs them at all, we need water , we need air, we don't need games.

Barlos149d ago

I would love a remake/remaster of KZ1. For its time it really pushed the PS2 hard and because of that it had a few issues. This is begging to be given the Bluepoint touch and brought up to date. I'd love to see an updated Killzone trilogy collection for sure.

Yi-Long149d ago

Sony killed the game and the studio behind it, but a Remaster of the excellent Driveclub would absolutely be my favorite release if it happened. Just a delicious racing game.

FinalFantasyFanatic149d ago (Edited 149d ago )

So many better choices, I can't fathom why reasonably recent games are getting picked over Classics that are more deserving.

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Battlestar23149d ago

Well I want a Horizon Zero Dawn remaster especially if it's an upgrade to Forbidden West Graphics and Animation.

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Duke19149d ago

Nope. But HD remasters are an easy cash grab that the masses shovel cash for because while they complain about remakes, they still buy them

PRIMORDUS149d ago

Not if they release on a platform that never received the original in the first place like PC.

46player149d ago

No complaint here, I want the updated graphics.

Ra3030149d ago

My thoughts on this is do we need Richard Leadbetter's or Digital Foundry's opinion on anything........ever? I know I don't they do nothing for me and never have.

specialguest149d ago

You may not, but tons of people do since the video has 4,700 Likes to 112 Dislikes

Chocoburger149d ago

That guy is a buffoon, DF Direct is the best gaming podcast around. I look forward to it every week.

BehindTheRows149d ago

By that same token, some may not NEED remasters, while others may/do.

Amplitude149d ago (Edited 149d ago )

DF videos are typically absolutely amazing game reviews first and foremost. They have great intros, explain the mechanics well, tell you if they enjoyed it or not (I usually vibe well with John's games personally), and then they have the best tech breakdowns of a game's performance which is very very important to me. I want to know what settings to run at on PC, and on PS5 I wanna know if the 60fps mode runs well or not because if it doesn't... well I'll just get it on PC (If it isn't completely broken there too). DF Retro is also always unbelievably interesting and super well edited and inspired my YouTube channel which just crossed 1200 subs (wooo!). They helped me a lot with understanding game development and got me interested in goofing around with game engines and PC building in general back in the day.

I don't mean any offence by this but you sound like somebody who skims their analysis videos, selectively scrolls to the stats, says "who cares?", and then closes it. Or possibly somebody who watches (stolen) cut clips on TikTok? Even if you are somehow unaffected by blurry images and fluctuating frame rates (some people are and I envy you) I recommend watching a full DF episode one day. They're extremely interesting and I watch literally all of them even if I have no interest in the game.

VonAlbrecht149d ago

"I personally don't enjoy this extremely well-presented and highly informative content so it shouldn't exist."

-Ra3030, Nobel Peace Prize Nominee

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Joris de Man on composing music for the Horizon series

In the video game industry, where visual design and game mechanics typically grab the limelight, the significance of music in enhancing the overall gaming experience is often underestimated. Music can be a key component in the player’s emotional connection with a game. It amplifies emotional impact, heightens tension, and can be a powerful driver of narrative. We’ve had the chance to speak to Joris de Man, a renowned Dutch composer best known for his work on the Killzone series, Horizon: Zero Dawn, and its sequel Horizon: Forbidden West. During the Game Access conference in Brno, we talked about the process of composing music for video games and how he created the harmonies that have shaped some of our most beloved gaming experiences.

Sonic1881315d ago (Edited 315d ago )

To keep using him as the music composer in their games.

ChronoJoe315d ago

Joris seems like a great guy. I spoke to him briefly once about how much I loved his music and he was really friendly/humble.