Zelda's Season Pass is Worse Than You Think

Zelda's Season Pass, called the Expansion Pass, was revealed yesterday but one overlooked sentence in the announcement makes the deal even worse...

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

The amount of negativity this is getting has gotten out of hand; I don't recall people complaining nearly this much when TLOU did something similar.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

It's sony that why.
And I think its just something the haters needed to use to start hating again because they are running out of options.

[bradfh]

Sony? sounds you are just hating Sony,
Nintendo owns Zelda, as for Sony they don't own the game Naughty Dog does.

[showtimefolks]

Brad

While Sony gives freedom more than any other publisher and actually are willing to take risk they do in ND and any IP nd work on

[r2oB]

It seems Nintendo is reluctant to assimilate when it comes to positive things such as powerful hardware, and securing legitimate third party support (not old ports and sports titles, I mean the majority of AAA releases); but they have no problem assimilating when it comes to negative things such as online subscriptions and season passes.

Nintendo wants to separate themselves from the competition, they don't want to be like Sony or Microsoft, they want to do their own thing... except when it comes to online subscriptions and season passes, then they want to be like everyone else.

[ShinMaster]

It's Nintendo, that's why it's ok now. /s

[user8920910]

Get raped and your throat slashed, Otaku. You are a worthless nigger stain and Christopher is protecting you so he can groom your underage ass!

[Big_Game_Hunters]

@showtimefolks
realistic Third person shooter and Zombie game, wow so many risks.

[vergilxx3]

Nope , it's Naughty Dog
I watch an interview with them an they stated that they do what they want with games Sony has no control over them

[Goldby]

@big time hunter.

Funny thing about that. It isnt a zombie game. Its a game about 2 characters surviving no matter what. And the setting was the last thing they decided.

Thats the difference between games like ohh last of us and dead rising.

Ones a generic zombie game. The other is a story of two people

[Aenea]

WTH does this have to do with Sony?

I do agree tho that all these articles are getting out of hand, not getting it at all, but then again, people just love to hate on stuff these days....

[rataranian]

Naughty Dog buddy. Educate.

[alfcrippinjr]

haa haa that funny its sony

i dont think so troll

this system will have hardly any good games for release when it comes out

[Artemidorus]

Blame Sony for Nintendos greed. What a logic.

[conanlifts]

@bradfh...but sony own naughty dog.

Although i am not sure if TLOU should be mentioned in this article. But i do think that the hate for this dlc is unwarranted.

@r20b.... assimilate..are you a star trek fan or something. 😂

[-Foxtrot]

Oh please if Nintendo shit on their hand and clapped right in your face you'd probably find a way to defend them

Comparing it to the TLOU makes no sense. The only story DLC was Left Behind which could be played as a stand alone title AND you did not have to buy the Season Pass to get it.

Lets not forget they never added a hard more within the Season Pass and made it so you had to buy the full thing if you wanted it.

Stupid comparison

[user8920910]

As I already stated before people gave Sony and ND grief over the DLC/season pass stuff on Neogaf and over at the official blog - otaku and monkey just have their tinfoil hats on again and think it's ONLY PS are calling out BOTW'S season pass.

[light69]

But hey let's forget that the last of us had those stupid micro dlc bundles of what you say? Oh yeah boosts and outfits... literally things that should probably not be put as dlc, but it's okay because it's Sony right? Mess with your customers by letting them know that you can loose to people that have invested money in better items, FUCKING LEGIT

[porkChop]

Left Behind was only released as a standalone more than a year after it was released as DLC. Grounded difficulty was also DLC for TLOU. So the comparison is actually pretty fair. The situations are almost identical.

[ZeroX9876]

@Light69

With TLOU you could buy every DLC separately. Not Zela BotW. You have to buy all of them together or nothing. less options I guess

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Grounded mode and micro bundles.
Also, bite me.*mic drop*

[naruga]

ahaha Foxtrot....never heard before that shit -clap-combination....also agree

[ChickeyCantor]

> Oh please if Nintendo shit on their hand and clapped right in your face you'd probably find a way to defend them

If Nintendo gave you everything you wanted you'd still find something to complain about.

I don't agree with the DLC and im not buying it, so there is that.

[Goldby]

@Monkey

What microbundles?

There was a grounded mode dlc and left behind, everythign else was for MP

get some actuals facts before you start asking people to bite you

[BishopPeace]

Fox that's what you do with Sony all the time, admit it ;)

[Wallstreet37]

It's getting this much negativity because the Nintendo fanatics always swore that Nintendo wouldn't engage in these practices (even though amiibos is a worse cash grab). Please don't act like you don't know why it's being attacked so much. Same reason Nintendo online is being attacked, dlc, etc....To stick it to those blind Nintendo fanatics that defend Nintendo at every turn and enable them and then talk &hit about other consoles :)

That's what happens when fans are hypocrites and talk nonsense. But it's OK now because Nintendo knows how to do and will do it fairly lol :)

[jholden3249]

If you've got issues with particular fans defending everything then that should be addressed with those particular individuals. And let's not pretend those fans don't exist for every platform. Unfairly crying foul here does no justice to Nintendo, the Zelda team, or the gaming industry.

If you despise certain people so much that you're willing to slander just to get back at them, you're no less a fanboy than they are.

I long for the day were these wars between fans of different consoles will end. It's just endless retaliation. "Oh her der those Nintendo fanboys defend everything so I'm just going to attack me Nintendo unfairly to get at them". And then "her der those Sony fanboys are such hypocrites, so I'm just going to attack Sony unfairly to get at them"

And it never ends. When people reach a point of hypocrisy where they slander one company for doing the exact same thing their beloved company does, maybe it's time they take a step back from video games

[light69]

@jholden3249

Don't bother man wallstreet is just another troll that literally spends his time bashing Nintendo fans and the Nintendo alll day everyday, check every Nintendo switch article you'll find him talking shit, funny thing is he says he's getting the switch but he's "cwanky" that it's not what he wanted. He's just a passive aggressive no life troll. Lol

[Wallstreet37]

Jholden...

Please stop with the melodrama and the pseudo ethical dribble. I give two &ucks about Nintendo, Sony or any gaming company as a whole. It's not that serious to defend the honor of Nintendo, Sony, etc...who creates inanimate object some ppl love to defend and praise blindly. I will continue to call things and ppl out when I see the bs and hypocrisy. Stop trying to be mister neutral. If you see the many disagrees and comments under his comment is for a reason. Also like every other company that does sleazy stuff &uck Nintendo with their close minded, narcissistic, better than every other company bs they try to spew when their actually doing many things worse.

Here come the alternate accounts and defense Force. Please get that sensitive bs out of here..

Light....

I see your his alternate account lol hahaha blind fanboy foh. You just mad bcus I'm not a blind cheerleader like you and tell it how it is. I stay calling out the frauds :) (goes back to playing Nioh :)

[ShinMaster]

Odd that you go straight for a PS exclusive and not games in general that have done this.

What's even more odd, is how blind Nintendo fanboys mocked the idea of DLC, season passes, incomplete games, cash grabs, etc, when third parties did it.

[Zeldafan64]

If you think Breath of the Wild isn't a complete game without the dlc then I don't see how you could ever see any game as being complete.

[jholden3249]

Yes, they did. And now they will be perfectly OK with it, because it's Nintendo.

Just like blind Sony fanboys mocked Microsoft for charging for online, then within 24 hours was defending Sony for doing it.

Fanboys will be fanboys. But why are you letting that bother you so much? So they're hypocrites, every rational person can see that. Why does it get under your skin so much that you have to point it out, why does it not get under your skin as much when Sony fanboys are these hypocrites? That's the real question. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. If you're
bothered by Nintendo fanboys you should be just as bothered by Sony fanboys. One is no better than the other

[Zeldafan64]

You knew the negativity was coming, we all did.

[ChronoJoe]

TLOU's content offers a very different value proposition (a better one). First, I should say that I feel that the value proposition offered by DLC should be proportionate to the price of the main game. So if for instance, a game like Breath of the Wild will often feature something like 12 dungeons, then the price of one dungeon (plus surrounding content) should be around $5. This makes sense to me, by buying the game you're paying around $5-6 per dungeon, so it makes sense that the DLC should have similar pricing.

Because of this, most DLC usually seeks to offer more. The Last of Us is 15 hours long, Left Behind is arond 3 hours long, that's a 20% expansion of the games content, and it's price is around 20% of the price of TLOU ($15 originally). It's a little pricy, but it makes sense here, and offers far better value for money than what boils down to $20, for a single dungeon and surrounding story content.

Uncharted 4's season pass offered even better value for money, as season pass holders are now entitled to access what has spawned unto a fully fledged uncharted spinoff.

At the moment much of Zelda's season pass is unknown however. The only interesting thing to me is the story content and dungeon, the rest seems to be features that should have been in the game already. However we will have to wait and see as more details emerge.

[Darkfist_Flames]

Meanwhile Gravity Rush 2 has free dlc as an apology for the game's delay, wheres the one for zelda's delay?

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Ask Nintendo about that one. I'm just glad they aren't delaying the game AGAIN in order to incorporate even more.

[joab777]

They offered a hard mode and in game map and T-shirt as part of a season pass?

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Grounded mode and micro bundles. Look it up.
Also, we already have an in-game map in BotW; we don't honestly know what new feature for the in-game map they are talking about.

[Goldby]

@Wonderful

there were no micro bundles fro Last of us

Look it up, there was a grounded mode and left behind. thats it. unless you are using the MP weapons as your weak defense

[MRMagoo123]

😂what does Sony have to do with Nintendo and it's ripping people off. you fanboys are a joke

[Aenea]

Ehmm, not sure why it needs to be compared to TLOU, the hate and negativity for Zelda's SP is nonsensical tho, then again there's plenty of hate going towards Xbox and PlayStation stuff as well (and non gaming related things), it's just something that happens in this day and age apparently, people love to hate...

[NecoTehSergal]

If you can't tell the difference between TLOU and Zelda in various ways - other than one is made by Sony and the other Nintendo - then quite frankly? You're clueless and need some more time in the oven to finish cooking. Boiling it down to "Itz k cuz its sony much wow free pass 2 sony bias wow" then.... Yeah. Stop while you're ahead. I shouldn't have to explain it.

[Kyizen]

Spoken like a true fanboy. The first DLC should be $9.99 and the second one $14.99 and if you buy the Season Pass upfront for $20 you save 5 bucks. Its just not raid to not let you buy them invidiually.

[Officialxandr]

@r2oB Why does your comment speak 100% truth? I love Nintendo but the best way to make them better is to criticize their negatives, not by being blind fanboys.

[objdadon]

And this dude again, instant damage control for everything Nintendo.

[bouzebbal]

Just keep quiet. Show us one time you complained about anything Nintendo.. You are the last one that should talk.

[Artemidorus]

I always complained, you very people who throw the wallet at games are the very reason it's getting worse and worse. It's cancerous spread that has gotten worse, less on a disc, more if you want it but you pay.

I am confident to say that gaming will one day be a premium for the rich in many years.

It's also why I think PC gaming will be much bigger than it is now.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Then dont buy it

[VenomUK]

Exactly! Although I think it's silly to blame Sony fans for being negative - it could be Nintendo, Sony AND Xbox fans being negative!

Zelda: BOTW, judging from the previews, is the real deal - a massive feature complete game. The expansion pass is for people who enjoy the game and want to play more in its world. $20 doesn't sound too expensive although the first DLC pack would be meatier if it had a story in it. Considering many triple-A games now have DLC this outrage seem manufactured for hits.

[Dan_scruggs]

Crazy thought of the day.

Don't buy it if you don't want it.

[-Foxtrot]

"don't like it don't buy it"

Oh look the same crappy excuse to defend these shitty practices...that'll show them huh /s

[Zodiac]

Not buying it equals defending it? Not buying it is exactly what would show them

[MeteorPanda]

Its the best thing you can do...

[Dan_scruggs]

If you don't buy it they wont make money and yes that will show them. Are you as young as your avatar because you sure act like it.

[Death]

@Foxtrot,

You honestly think bitching on the internet is more effective than not buying the product?

[Stevonidas]

Yes, because constantly BITCHING about DLC on forums/news sites has worked SOOOOOO good so far.

If enough people speak with their wallets, this shit will stop. It's not rocket surgery folks.

[Zeldafan64]

I think the dlc for BotW is fairly priced to be honest. I bet it'll add a good 8-10 hours of gameplay which imo is perfectly reasonable.

[conanlifts]

If it's a true expansion them i see no problem. But if it's a few extra side quests with 4-5 hours of play then i see a problem. But for now we don't have the full details. This is always a problem with nintendo. So much secrecy that it breeds hate. They should have waited to detail the extra content before announcing it. Personally i am hoping for the expansion to be a stand alone zelda quest. It's a great way to test the waters to see if it works before they do a full zelda character game.

[fenome]

Hey, it worked for the Wii U. Lmao

[yezz]

All of you who are saying that not buying it would show them, you're right that it would show them but only if everyone would do it, which is simply not going to happen. There are millions of people who'll still buy all the crap. I stopped buying CODs few years ago because I stupidly believed that it would "show them" and they would slow down with the crap. Guess what? Other people are still buying it and I don't have a Call of Duty to play..

In most cases "Then don't buy it" only works on paper...

[warriorcase]

your solution would be?

[constantine_man]

Pack it up guys, you heard it. Nintendo's not allowed to do what 99% of what all other publishers do or else their the devil. I don't specifically remember any outrage when TLOU made you pay for grounded mode.

[joethetimelord]

Foxtrot, if people don't buy season passes, then companies will start to see less profit in selling them.
It's not an excuse. It's business. Complaining isn't going to make a company drop a practice that earns it a profit. The simple act of choosing not to pay for bad DLC speaks louder than any post, article, or video.

[pcz]

hold the fxck up..

so they took an entire generation to produce this game, delayed it several times longer just to give their new console a launch title, but don't even have the decency to include all the content?

just when i thought i heard it all

[Chug]

Precisely. This is why I cancelled my preorder for the Wii U version and won't be picking up a Switch either. Nintendo can kick rocks.

[badz149]

And if you want to play on harder difficulty, you have to pay. Glorious!

[Big_Game_Hunters]

"All the content" you are talking about won't even exist for another 4-8 months.

[Goldby]

@big game hunter

And you dont see that as a problem. This game was supposed to be a wii u exclusive. They pushed it back to te switch and are charging for stuff they havent even finished developing....

[Ryasha]

Same thing happened with Final Fantasy XV did it not?
Supposed to be release on PS3 as Versus XIII, got delayed several times over, renamed as XV and made multiplatform, delayed again and again, finally released after years but yet has a season pass.

[Voletic]

Nobody bought the Wii U and it didn't do this.

[AJBACK2FRAG]

I started writing about a Nintendo hybrid console the day Nintendo merged their hand held and home video game departments. I though just the idea was very interesting. Now that it's actually happening I'm not so sure. This might be the first Nintendo console I don't purchase day one. Zelda is coming to the Wii U which I already own and I just don't find the launch line up that appealing. Plus I don't feel so good about being a guinea pig for Nintendo. Obviously the Wii U was the Wii hd. A stop gap measure to give them time to work on a "real" console the NX. The gamepad never really materialized into a truly innovative product but it bumped up the price of the whole package to really idiotic proportions.. The Wii remote was the true Revolution the Wii U was an also ran. The first party games were amazing as usual but here at the end of the road it's still insanely expensive. In my opinion. Ahhh I'll probably wait a year or two until the price drops. and the library of amazing first party titles start's to build up.

[Artemidorus]

Keep supporting it and it will keep happening.

[_LarZen_]

Storm in a water glass...

[Zeldafan64]

If there's no real controversies then they have to try to turn every little nitpick into something huge.

[The 10th Rider]

Exactly. I'm on the fence as of now . . . But we don't even know what the story content, extra dungeon or new map feature is yet. It's very very likely that if Majora's Mask was made nowadays, it would be some sort of expansion pack. The smart thing right now is ti sit back and wait and see, it's not like they're forcing you to buy it or announcing it a year before the game releases.

[shocked686]

Thanks for the comment, my article was really just focused on the inability to buy the DLC sets separately like all other Season Passes. I don't mind Nintendo pushing DLC in general, and the second DLC set actually sounds pretty interesting, but I would have liked the option to buy them separately and I don't think a lot of people realize you can't do that.

[The 10th Rider]

@shocked686,

Alright, I can accept that. I personally like it when everything's packaged together as an expansion back, of sorts. For instance, for the Civilization series individual civilizations rack up pretty quickly in terms of cost. However, an expansion pack offers a wide variety of content in one great package. I still think I'll have to see what the contest specifically entails before I make up my mind.

[rashada07]

I think it sounds great and plan to get it as well. Something I respect them for is actually telling you what is in the season pass/will be comprised of. Season passes have been sold with little to no information about content comparatively.

[rdgneoz3]

The article mentions it, but this is not really a Season pass and more just $20 DLC split into 2 pieces. Reason is the bottom line of the listing: "Content packs cannot be purchased individually." This is the reason for the article, as pretty much every single game with a season pass lets you buy individual packs separately.

[spartan112g]

I think Nintendo knows that the first two aren't where the meat and potatoes are. It's all about that one in the holiday. It looks better as a package though.

[shocked686]

Exactly rdgneoz3, thank you for giving my article a read! I don't mind Nintendo having DLC in general, but the way Nintendo is marketing this seems a little disingenuous. And that shirt...

[Zeldafan64]

It's all subjective. This isn't something that can be looked at or judged objectively. It's that murky gray water that companies want to operate in that has so many people upset.

[MPScrimshaw]

I feel like judging something compared to other examples of the same thing and determining whether it is worth the money being charged for it can be a very objective thing.

[XbladeTeddy]

Not got a problem with DLC, but am annoyed that you have to pay for hard mode. I thought difficulty settings were safe from the DLC monster.

[spartan112g]

"New Hard Mode". Will probably be something special.

[jholden3249]

I'm thinking more of a Master Quest, which historically has never been included with the base game until years later.

But, even if it's not, if a hard mode is the extent of our problems that I think we're in pretty good shape

[XbladeTeddy]

I think it will be a Master Quest mode, but all that mode does is mirror things and stuff. Not something worth money, but maybe if they did more it could be. I'm doubtful it will be much change-wise though.

Plus you can't buy hard mode separate, you have to buy it with other stuff which is the bad part..

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Nope. There are other examples, but the most recent ones I can think of, are Overpower Levels in Borderlands 2, and Grounded mode in TLOU.

[alfcrippinjr]

wow buy the game but wait we not giving you the full game you buy a season pass
could had sinply put it in the game
but nope as the games cartridge can not hold a lot of information

the switch =fail

[spartan112g]

That was a lot of typing to just tip toe around your bias.
You are getting the full package. This is stuff that they are working on which will be ready by the holidays.

Your logic and grammar = fail

[alfcrippinjr]

spartan112g=troll

[spartan112g]

I'm a troll for bringing in logic that goes up against yours. Next you're gonna call me a fascist.

[lunatic0001]

You must hate every game that comes out nowadays then huh...You.might need to find a new hobby then

[alfcrippinjr]

don't be a retard all you life

you troll

[conanlifts]

"And what we’re getting is clearly not worth a third of the entire asking price of Zelda "

We don't even know what we are getting. For all we know it could be awful and a complete rip off. Alternatively they might have a huge story mode planned where you play as zelda and it contains hours of additional gameplay.

Personally i will reserve judgement until they detail what the pass contains. Some expansions have been awesome, Witcher 3 for example. Others like gears ( which i own) are a huge rip off.

[DualWielding]

wait you need to pay for an in-game map?

[Monster_Tard]

No, there is already a in-game map.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

"Worse" what was wrong with it?

However I do agree that you should be able to buy them separately. At the same time,I'm not going act like BOTW is somehow ruined and releasing unfinished or that Nintendo is "shitting on their consumers" for giving them optional bonus content later down the line.

[SR388]

TLOU wasn't that great I must be honest, i enjoyed it yes but the acclaim it got made no sense to me... This dlc is fine and it'll be great stuff

[jholden3249]

Yes, it's just SOOO horrible... so much worse than I thought /s

I think it's great. More Zelda = good thing. $20 for new story content, new modes, few token outfits and items. The very first "season pass" was LA Noires Rockstar Pass, which for $20 offered a couple missions, a new mode and a few token outfits.

DLC the industry norm, but all of a sudden it's a "bad thing" now? Gtfo I love DLC. I bought Dark Souls 3 season pass, Mario Kart 8 season pass, Uncharted 4 DLC, Final Fantasy XV season pass, and you better believe I'm buying this Zelda DLC. Never thought I'd see the day that DLC for one of the best games release this generation would become a "bad thing". Cause more of a good thing is evil... naturally.

[troll_king]

Still don`t get why Sony fanboys always feel the need to comment on Nintendo articles, surely they should be on Sony articles getting upset about the cpu/gpu bottleneck and crappy 4k checkerboarding on their new flagship ps4 pro that Sony have just brought out to skim another 500 bucks

[alfcrippinjr]

wow another troll that come out of his cave
go back in and close the door

[Aenea]

And why are you on a Nintendo article talking about Sony?

[gedden7]

You know, you gamers are biggest hypocrites EVER! DLC is not bad when the game without DLC has great depth. Sony, MS and a lot of 3rd party corps really D#CK over customers when there's a ONLINE ONLY game (no single player) and they sell DLC a week or month after the game is released. Overwatch anyone??? Cmon Nintendo spent A LOT of money on this game and YES they should be capitalists. The game already with be 30+ (really 60+) hours long with OVER 100 DUNGEONS AND SIDE QUESTS.... GTA has crazy amount of DLC NO ONE IS UPSET ABOUT THAT???... U gamers are full of it. I'm glad this is happening, just shows the double standard Nintendo gets. BTW YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY THE DLC... Lol just wow.

[TheOptimist]

Yep, me and my friend talked yesterday. I am completely against these stupid money making strategies. But my friend was a Nintendo fanboy, so he was even defending this.

[spartan112g]

You mean the kind of money making strategies that require you to put in a bunch of extra hard work?

[TheOptimist]

Nope the kind of nickel and diming Nintendo is doing for a few skins, a hard mode and a virtual special item. i don't mind expansion packs like how Dying Light and Witcher 3 gave, but shitty expansion packs like that of CODs (Giving skins and shit), not accepted.

[Pamela-Ibis]

Simple solution. Dont buy it!

[SilverClock]

Season passes will continue for as long as video games exist. The sooner you realize that the easier it'll be. If they weren't making money this way, it'd be some way else. They've been around this long, and they wouldn't have kept doing it if it wasn't effective at making money. People have complained about it for years and will say they are boycotting it every time. Yet here we are. Nintendo sees Sony and Microsoft making money this way and what are they supposed to do? Just ignore this option to make money that has proven successful? That's not good business. I can obviously understand the negativity. But it's either worth your money or it isn't. Pick which one and move on.

[Darkfist_Flames]

Looks like im just gona wait for the dlc and pirate the game haha.

[spartan112g]

Here is an example of what not to do if you like video games, kids.

[Goldeneye007]

RIP Zelda franchise.

[spartan112g]

RIP rational thought

[lunatic0001]

Why is this season pass in particular getting so much hate??..This industry has been doing it for years now and Nintendo have been playing around with the idea for a while too with smash and Mario kart...Not to mention amiibos...Why did people think botw would be any different...Nintendo is a business...They are not here to be our friends...They are here to maximize their profits and make sure their business makes as much money as it can make and of dlc is the way to go then it will implement it in all future titles...Doesn't matter if it's single player or multiplayer

[joab777]

Are you serious? You can't believe Nintendo would do this? Why not? They try and gouge you whenever they can. Now they have jumped in board this train. C'mon, adding an in game map and hard mode are not part of a season pass!

[porkChop]

It doesn't add an in-game map. The game has a map. It's some feature that's related to the map, but we really have no idea what it is yet.

And it says "new" hard mode, which seems like it's in addition to the hard mode that's likely already in the game.

Many other games have done this, including The Last of Us. Grounded mode, which was a difficulty setting, was released as DLC.

[joab777]

Exactly. We have no idea yet! So it's more of an inflated price. Can't blame them for getting as much as they can out of us at launch, but I don't like it!

[OpinionSmasher]

Indeed it sucks but it still is only 20$ and its just additional non story connected content.

[Armyntt]

I already have subscriptions to Sony/MS. Not doing it for an inferior console. Nintendo could have separated themselves by not going subscription and no season passes. Another Wii U anyways.

[rulparra]

20 for a t-shirt in game awesome!

[Aenea]

What is it with all these articles and BS about a season pass?

Aren't we used to those by now? And no, they aren't a bad thing in general, some are, most aren't....

[iofhua]

If it comes with that shirt, I don't want it!

Ugh. *shudder*

[CrimsonWing69]

Here's the thing, Nintendo is finally getting into the "online gaming/paid service model". Let's do real talk for a sec, Nintendo has done season passes in the past... anyone remember Hyrule Warriors? Season Passes are part of the industry and finally Nintendo is catching up with the times. Does Zelda need a season pass? No, no it doesn't but neither did Final Fantasy 15 and it has one.

So jumping down Nintendo's throat for a season pass is the wrong thing to be jumping down their throats for...

... that should be channeled to why they're so out of touch with the industry to begin with and why they're giving us another underpowered, closed off machine, with a gimmick they're leaning on the sell it. Also, their whole online paid service where you only get 1 free game for a month and then have to pay for it if you want to keep it.

Like there is so much to poo poo Nintendo over than a season pass for a game in a market that has been doing this since 2 generations ago.

[Exvalos]

No excuse for hard mode (the difficulty you should be playing games on) locked behind a paywall. Go head nintendo guys and defend this.

[Tzuno]

Nintendo has starved with WiiU and now they are hungry with Switch.

[Gansta_Titan]

As much I hat to say it I'm not buying this season pass. Especially if it's just gonna be skins and a dungeon??? Naw man I'm cool on that

[Djinn]

If this were any other publisher announcing a season pass, there'd be a deluge of hate. But because it's Nintendo, it's suddenly alright and everyone is quick to defend them. Makes me sick. Can you imagine if this was EA?

[MilkMan]

Let me say this. This is bullsh!t with a capital B...however, Nintendo is just late to the party. THats all.
It's also jarring because we don't ever expect our Zelda games to be incomplete and obviously this game was designed with money squeezing methods built in.
It's a tragedy that Nintendo succumbed to this. I always felt they were above board when it came to this.
Seems nothing is sacred.
Not sure whether or not I'll buy the "season pass" myself. I'm actually very torn and diss appointed.
If you are a long term Nintendo fan then you know what the feeling is.
If you grew up in the world of gamedom and you don't even know any other way but to pay for extra baubles then this is status quo, which is also pretty sad.

[Moonman]

There will be an edition with all the DLC content for free years later just like Sony does. Or Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I don't defend this but I wish the DLC is top notch quality.

[demonicale]

You do know you don't actually HAVE to buy the DLC right?. What's with all the complaints?, it's a choice and not something you HAVE to purchase.

[Einhander1971]

Oh please stop clapping shit on forums, you lot have been ripped off for DLC for years by the Sony and Microsoft. Looks like Nintendo's gonna join the gang, I never buy dlc so personally don't give a shit am buying switch though so you can all hate you like.

[Chinkyinc18]

A hard mode and in-game map feature should not be DLC. This is worse then them promoting widescreen as a Wii-exclusive feature in Twilight Princess. DLC should be things that add things that aren't considered standard features of a game. All the others content is fine as DLC.

[Dragonscale]

Dlc fair enough. Paywalling difficulty seems a bit harsh though for something thats usually a standard inclusion.

[Blu3_Berry]

I don't see that issue here. Lots of other publishers announce season passes before the game releases. What makes Nintendo doing this for Zelda any different? Hell, this is much cheaper compared to most season passes anyways which recently seems to be in the $40 range.

[shocked686]

Thanks for the comment, my article was really just focused on the inability to buy the DLC sets separately like all other Season Passes rather than the price. I don't mind Nintendo pushing DLC in general, and the second DLC set actually sounds pretty interesting, but I would have liked the option to buy them separately and I don't think a lot of people realize you can't do that.

[Blu3_Berry]

Fair enough. It's entirely possible that Nintendo may have said this incorrectly though. Only time will tell. But I don't think Nintendo would be foolish to keep both packs combined without the ability to buy them separately. We shall see down the road.

[shocked686]

I hope you're right, seems silly not to.

[wheresmymonkey]

Its not worth it? We don't even know the scope of what's going to be in it yet. Of all the first parties Nintendo has shown that they know how to make decent DLC. Mk8 and Hyrule Warriors instantly spring to mind. that;s withour mentioning the steady stream of free content that they brought to Splatoon and Mario Maker.

I'm happy to give ninty the benefit of the doubt on this one.

But i don't understnd why people are getting mad over this? just wait till its all out to get it if you want it. What's more it's not like Breath of the Wild is going to be starved for content to begin with.

[OpenGL]

I pre-ordered the Switch and BOTW but I'm going to avoid this pass.

[Triggytrolls]

Not my problem because I'm not buying it.

[esmittystud101]

Their season pass is no where near as bad as Forza Horizon 3 or any Forza pass for that matter. I love the game but they have the worse season pass in gaming......even worse than Ubisoft season passes.

[alfcrippinjr]

there not much of a negativity on this to much hype sure lets not release the system in bulk
sure why not get the hype up more.

no man sky got a lot of negativity by the trolls on the internet.

we can only wait and see what the whole hype is about this system
yes there will be big flaws in the unit when it gets release.
and possible hardly any games for it.

just like the wiiu was which was a shame as that was a good consoles system
its a shame with Nintendo strict policy of gaming and development and cost of licenses
it not worth the companys making any games for this system.
nintendo pay them to make the games not the developers they just get paid by them

[SojournUK]

I'll play it on easy.

[strayanalog]

Everyone was screaming at Nintendo to join the 21st century and now you got it. But hey, it's simple fix: don't buy it if you don't like it.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Fak it to much hate ill be first in the que at my local game store when switch releases zelda season pass are not i can't wait for it. Just cause its Nintendo don't put them on a path of ethics that has to meet everyones morals.I have season pass payments as long as my two arms on all my consoles. So im not gonna complain unless its bobby kotic related . Also add to that its only 20$. Paid 115 pounds on bf1 and its season pass so lets get some perspective in here.