With the recent announcement of a Marvel & Square Enix partnership, people have assumed that Star Wars or Avengers will be in KH3. Here's why I disagree.
Phil Spencer confirms that more Xbox games will be available on new platforms during a new interview after Xbox Showcase.
Satya Nadella wants that PlayStation's money, Phil Spinster now is as relevant as MySpace
Phil Spencer (February 15th 2024):
"Looking forward so 4 games no promise beyond that, so if you're on those other platforms and you see these four games coming please don't take it as some signal that everything is coming, it's not."
Phill Spencer (June 9th 2024)
'Our commitment to our Xbox customers is you're going to get the opportunity to buy or subscribe to the game, we're going to support the game on other screens. And you are going to see more of our games on more platforms and we just see that as benefit that the franchises we're building and we see that from players and the players love to be able to play'
I won't be buying any Xbox games anyway, Not going to subsidize their vision of changing gaming industry into streaming everything via a netflix subscription and they are the only choice. Remember when it comes to Microsoft "It's us or no one" You can't complain after they have taken over either.
Especially when they "give" it to Xbox users and expect playstation users to pay full price for it. Like second class citizens.
So, the benefit of having an Xbox is the option of a subscription service that's more like a buffet and not a deluxe plate. By staying loyal to Xbox means day 1 "free" games of your choice. Xbox is a service.
If rumors are true Xbox is going the 3DO route, Xbox is basically a PC. I mean, since PlayStation caved and started using off the shelf parts to "make it easier on developers", which is a croc as were how far into this console generation and the only devs to really support PS5, kind of, is Insomniac, San Diego, and Santa Monica and we've seen nothing from other devs. PS4 was supposed to be easier so PS5 would be even easier, right? But what've we really seen from Sony first party when it comes to PS5 games? Nothing, they're all still possible on PS4. Xbox? Same thing. Hi-Fi Rush was possible on at least Xbox One X (another lie from Xbox with No one gets left behind). Wow
There’s this small part of me which wants to think that the reason for Sony being so calm lately, especially after Microsoft’s showcase, is because they know this themselves, and they could know more than what’s being said publicly.
But, Lego Horizon is on the Switch. Why is Nintendo the only comfortable one here. They're not even on PC
Stupid take. The Lego game has been made by a Lego studio with advice on the IP from guerilla games. So part of the negotiations/requirements to make it happen will clearly have been done kind of multiplatform release.
It seems the idea is to have other platforms(PS and PC) offset the cost of game pass.
Xbox users get the games on game pass while others pay full price.
Gamepass seems to be Xbox's idea of "exclusive".
These guys are so inconsistent with their messaging. It's difficult to know exactly what they want to do with their games. I've stopped caring. I just focus on the games.
It doesn't make any sense. I'll readily admit that Lego Horizon on the Switch is messed up.
I see it this way. Gamers are upset for Xbox for going multiplatform, PlayStation has been looking at PC, The Show ended up on Xbox and Switch and neither Xbox nor Nintendo stood up for the industry to say "look, that's not how we do business here. That's up to Sony and we respect that because we see it the same way." And maybe Spencer was that desperate for something quality with a reputation to dig himself out of the hole he got himself into. So there's all this stress and strain but, nobody, not gamers nor publishers noticed little ol Nintendo sitting in the shaded and shadowed corner, like Nintendo didn't seem like much of a threat so everyone saw it as the safe fallback to seem unbiased or like they had blinders. But, Sonys releasing on PC with two games on the Switch now and Xbox is going more and more multiplatform every day. But again, why on the Switch and not on Xbox? Why bother going one way? Because Nintendo agreed to a Zelda movie deal? I think everyone's underestimated what Nintendo is really up to. Nintendo is the ONLY console manufacturer who is solely on Nintendo hardware and has always been so. Nintendo Switch is closing in on the PlayStation 2 hardware overall sales and Nintendo is that close and if they can keep the Switch around long enough, will claim lifetime sales and then announce the Switch 2.
Ya gotta admit that a console that has really limited games where the story is always the same with very few IPs is doing that well..... Why? And now, it's neutral ground for PlayStation and Xbox? What sense does that make? Is PlayStation sore over the fact of Activision? Phil Spencer basically lied under oath (not that an oath actually means anything these days, especially for a business man that someone's found a way to justify the lie and his integrity by saying it was an ignorant omission or something like that, it's Washington State, what more would you expect) but, it's odd. Nintendo is sitting nice and comfy..... It's suspicious
Also, you dont think that means Diablo, Call of Duty 6, Doom, Elder Scrolls Online, the stuff that's already usually on the hardware?
Larian touches on its next projects, sharing that the cinematics will be bigger and better than Baldur's Gate 3's.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, PlayStation’s social media is already being peppered by disgruntled fans, desperate for the format holder to step up its livestream game.
They need to buck their ideas up completely and rethink their State of Play shows in my opinion. If it's because they have nothing to show as any announcement will be years off then fair enough but then the question is why are they in that position.
Sony knew when Microsoft bought all these studios that eventually Microsoft would harvest all these games that were in development at the time of their purchase. They have had plenty time to prepare yet it just feels nothing has really come out of it so far. In the years since Microsoft bought Obsidian Entertainment, Ninja Theory and Double Fine around 2018/2019 it was clear they were ramping things up which they were as they went onto buy Zenimax in 2020 and then a couple years after Activision, two publishers with so many studios and IPs under their belt.
In that time Sony has decided to buy studios like Bungie, Haven and Firewalk Studios which are all GaaS related and haven't really put anything together to counter the new IPs Microsoft had acquired.
Everything from Sony at the minute is either third party games or this heavy PC focused most PS5 fans don't really care about.
However. If I was to be fair though and look at the other side of the coin at least they haven't announced games recently that could still be years away which is something that people seem to be giving Microsoft a pass with.
Yes the Microsoft show was great and hopefully it's given Sony a kick up the backside but most of the games shown like Fable, State of Decay 3, Avowed, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Perfect Dark and South of Midnight were games that were announced last year and before. The only brand new thing that really surprised me that's an exclusive was Gears of War.
Sony need to start going back to what made many people buy their consoles from the beginning, their first party games you couldn't get anywhere else with great single player experiences. Not every games needs to be AAA, they need to find a good balance.
I do feel Sony is holding off a lot of their big announcements for the Pro reveal. The last one was just to hold us over, the next one, especially now that MS has shown their hand, would be the strategic time to drop the big bombs once MS' showcase drops out of the headlines.
This nonsense again. No matter how successful playstation is year in and year, no matter how many good games they release year in and year out, you'll have someone somewhere whining that it's not good enough and that they need to return to some past era.
Oh for Christ sake man, this shitty attitude of yours is why companies can get arrogant because no one says anything…no one’s allowed because fanboys like yourself throw a fit with their pretentious “you’re not allowed to say this” bull crap
The same happened to Microsoft for years with their die hard fans.
Microsoft have had a good show this year and has shown we their studios are stacked, what’s wrong with speaking out and wanting Sony to get their shit together with how quiet they’ve been?
It’s people like you licking the boot of these companies why nothing changes.
So yeah I guess I am whining about this because as a fan I’d like to see change and don’t want Sony to go back to their arrogant 2006 self.
Jesus…
Weird that people list games like Perfect Dark which probably isn't close to releasing and all these games ending of this year or in 2025 as if Playstation didn't already have a ton more exclusives this year, but, conveniently forget this years releases like Gran Blue Relink, FF VII Rebirth, Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, Star Ocean 2nd R
Plus games like Zenless Zero, new Y''S, new Legend of Heroes, Silent Hill 2, Concord Death Stranding 2, Astrobot, Lego Horizon, Phantom Blade 0, Monster Hunter Stories 1 & 2, Tsukihime, Earth Defense Force 6 and many more not coming to Xbox as well.
The way I see it, the focus only GaaS has already cost us a ND game.
Foxtrot is not wrong. A good balance is the way.
So out of the 21games 13 are releasing on the PS5. Banger if a showcase though, their best in years.
Sony have released few bangers this yr rebirth helldivers rise of the ronin and stellablade ,which tbh I don't think was that good .but they have releases some good games this yr
"What are all the 1st party games that Sony's releasing this year ?"
They released MLB, will release Astrobot, remastered Until Dawn, Concord, Helldivers 2, published Rise of the Ronin and will do the same for Death Stranding 2. That's SEVEN games by Playstation this year. So you were saying? For Xbox we got what? Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Flight Simulator, Avowed, Age of Mythology?
Add in FAR more 3rd party exclusives and it's a wash.
Again there's not a single month where Xbox has more games or exclusives releasing really at any point this year.
If i was giving Xbox sh!t for the 10yrs of under delivering, you're damn straight im gonna get on PlayStations case when i see them heading the same way. And you know what? Ive been saying this for like 2yrs, and getting nothing but blind defense from people like you. NO! Something is off, i have been here for EVERY generation of PlayStation, hell every generation since the NES and Master System. This is by far the weakest generation ive seen, ESPECIALLY by Sony and i see no reason for it!
We are WAAAY past covid shut downs and recovering for those, no they are not "holding their cards close to their chest for the ms/ba deal" because thats done and over with, even if they were, why is it taking so long for so many of their studios? The only ACTUAL evidence we have to go on is the GAAS push, we've already heard from several sources that it's getting in the way of other major projects, we have OFFICIAL statements from ND themselves saying they it was taking too many resources from other projects and so they had to drop it. And right around that time Jim was announced to be leaving with no replacement ready, which does not happen unless you're pushed out.
These are decisions made, that can be unmade to get things back on track, some of it has, but i think they're making the poor decision to follow through as much as they can as not to lose the money they already dumped into all these gaas titles.
This "whining" is necessary, demand better, let them know not to do this sh!t again, damn right im gonna KEEP whining, cause this isn't the PlayStation ANY long term fan knows and loves.
The problem is there is no competition. We can be mad at the showcase but they are still making tons of money and outselling the competition hand over fist so from their perspective why take the risks. We need someone to bring real competition otherwise they can sit on their laurels reading all the complaints while sipping on their chai tea.
This was actually a great showcase from Microsoft. Incredible games after another got to be honest.
With the exeption of fortnight looking Dragon Age. My pain was immeasurable.
How did it come from this..
https://youtu.be/rGbgcmNxFh...
Well I mean, xbox showcase was mostly multiplats. So if by a better show they mean Sony should spend some money to have multiplats revealed in a Somy conference to create a better show, Im not sure I agree with that. But I do think that Sony should reveal what they are working on.
This 100 percent execs need to stop thinking about the potential of a gaas game and instead work on what the fans who made them the market leader want
This Fanboy culture that's gripped NRG is turning me away from the community it's always been around but it's never been more toxic we can't criticise we most always love Sony it's garbage
Playstation owners get to play the majority of games shown during the showcase, which invalidates whatever point the tool, who wrote the article was trying to make.
I don't know, buddy.
I don't disagree with you on principle. But from my perception.
Sony's been putting up a very decent software line-up for PS5 so far, even for the 'lackluster' 2024 period.
But why can't we just appreciate what we collectively already know?
Sony's major first party titles over the last 15 years were always perfectly polished and very, VERY well received.
Whatever the 'Big Four/Five' are working on:
Give them time!
PS5 is a new hardware. And you can bet that the major first party studios want nothing less but to put out the same results they've done with the likes such as God of War, Spiderman, Astro's, Returnal, Horizon, etc.
This doesn't come within 3¾ years after PS5's launch. It just doesn't.
I would really appreciate it if we'd only accept this. Sony hasn't changed their commitment on story driven single player games. Hulst confirmed this on two separate occassions now.
The next Playstation Showcase will happen.
Xbox definitely had better third-party showings, but I really just want Sony to start showing us first-party titles. There's got to be something new they can show us, right? And it can't just be one or two games, it has to be at least half a dozen.
I mean, at least we know Bungie isn't sitting idly by and Insomniac is doing Wolverine. But ND just cancelled their MP TLoU plans, what are they working on now let alone the second studio they have that's been quiet for 4 years now? Sucker Punch? Bend?
Did all the big studios have ideas that were canned and start working on new things? Was Jim Ryan that bad of a CEO that they veered that far off the path and are working their way back to it?
"I mean, at least we know Bungie isn't sitting idly by and Insomniac is doing Wolverine. But ND just cancelled their MP TLoU plans, what are they working on now let alone the second studio they have that's been quiet for 4 years now? Sucker Punch? Bend? "
If they hypothetically announce something like Ghost of Tsushima 2 and give us a release date within 6-8 months of it's announcement, something like what Bethesda did with Fallout 4s reveal at E3 then I would TOTALLY get their plans and why they've been so quiet. However if they end up announcing their titles and the release dates are still so far off despite being so quiet for years then I'm at a complete loss with it.
Having a change in strategy and only wanting to announce games when they know they are 100% going to release the same year is the only thing that will make sense and something I can totally get behind.
"Was Jim Ryan that bad of a CEO that they veered that far off the path and are working their way back to it?"
I'm still convinced his GaaS plans are why he took early retirement, after seeing issues with NaughtyDog being put on something they weren't comfortable with I think higher ups knew putting all their existing studios on these games was a bad move. Obviously they've had to see some of them out until the end but I think he's why some of these studios are so quiet because they've wasted time on live service stuff that just wasn't working.
That's exactly my problem, is even if they announce something, it's likely not coming out for about another year, the only time a PlayStation 1st party has taken longer than 3-4yrs between releases is it were in development hell. Seems like half their studios are in development hell.
Honestly it annoys me to see this about face defending this garbage when PlayStation fans have always been the more outspoken, more demanding fanbase out of the 3. Now all of a sudden we're defending studios going completely awol for 5+yrs?
The time for silence is over. At least, I’m over it. Open the first party floodgates, while I’m still alive lol!
I've never heard of this rumor at all after Sony's SOP. In fact last year it wasn't even a real rumor. Colin Moriarty tried spreading his speculation off as a rumor. When Colin knew nothing at all.
The only thing they're gonna have is a pro SOP. Unless that's what you meant.
I'll keep an ear out for SOP rumor but so far I haven't heard nothing.
Sony's state of play's are NOT showcases. That state of play was primarily to show first party titles due this year and some indie titles due this year and early next year. They will clearly have a showcase to push the ps5 pro later this year likely in September.
SammyB... of course...
PlayStation's big show is going to be later in the year when they show the PS5 Pro.
They said that last year. A showcase in September last year, then it was suppose to be that December.
I think they're gonna show upcoming games taking advantage of Pro. Upcoming 3rd parties and existing games that'll take advantage of pro.
If you think it'll be Ghost 2, Bend, ND then you're gonna be disappointed. Some of y'all need to start having realistic expectations at this point seriously.
Marvels Wolverine...
I think it'll be ND, who was working on two single player games simultaneously with the TLOU MP, Ghost of Tsushima 2 is absolutely likely, as well as Bend's game and Insomniac's Wolverine, Bluepoint is also a likely to show Bungie is also likely to show Marathon again as well as Haven, Housemarque is another studio that could potentially have a 2025 release .
They also have a Horizon MMO in the works at NC Soft and a partnership for Project LLL and Project G. As well as a half dozen gacha games coming from various Chinese and Korean developers.
Every studio that hasn't released a game so far is likely to have something to show, obviously Sony has known the Pro was going to be a thing since even before the gen started, it's extremely likely that they have been purposely holding off on showing their hand specifically for this show.
I know you want to perpetuate the story that PlayStation doesn't have games but they both have a ton of studios working on projects as well as the strongest relationships to bring 3'rd party games to their console.
It's like trying to act like PlayStation hasn't had a ton of games so far in 2024 when all the most talked about games were PlayStation, FF7R, Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade, plus Rise of the Ronin and GranBlue Fantasy Relink just being some of the bigger titles.
Pretty much every week we see games getting announced from this developer or that making games for PlayStation that aren't on xbox.
No, some rumours suggested they were waiting till later in the year but changed track due to delays to stuff. The key difference is they called their summer show a showcase. They did not call the state of play a showcase and even announced it the day before and stated it was primarily to show first party titles due in the next few months and indie titles due in near future.
"Marvels Wolverine..."
That's not releasing until 2026 according to the leak. Unless Sony decides to show it early build.
"I know you want to perpetuate the story that PlayStation doesn't have games"
I do? Where did I perpetrate that?
If you really think Sony will have another showcase later in the year again then I guess you can hold on to hope. Maybe I'll be wrong, I'll eat that crowd if I am wrong plus I'll be playin those games anyway I don't lose out on nothing. I'm just being realistic and it sounds like hopium from you tbh.
I haven't heard of another Showcase. A pro showcase which we know has to happen is speculation, again we know that has to happen and it will happen. Again if you think they're gonna show off all those titles at the pro showcase, you gonna be disappointed. If Sony doesn't want to show off games early, what difference does 4 month make to suddenly show off those titles in September? They're gonna show off those new 1st party games when time gets closer. Showing off the pro along with games that are still awhile away doesn't make much sense, only upcoming games make better since.
Doesn't bother me if it's 3rd party exclusives. I just find it funny when MS had 3rd party stuff it didn't count, it suddenly counts when Sony does it though.
If you think they are just going to show the Pro and not show any games you're the one who is going to be disappointed. And it's not like Microsoft's fake rumors started by angry fanboys on twitter. PlayStations leak of the Pro came from Tom Henderson who leaked the new headset the earbuds the portal even the Inzone stuff was leaked by him. Tom Henderson has a 100% track record for PlayStation leaks, if he says the Pro is coming at the end of the year it's coming.
Obviously PlayStations Studios are working on projects and if they haven't released them so far they are OBVIOUSLY nearing completion, we know how long it takes to make a game and when all their last games released.
Obviously there is going to be a big show for the Pro, and obviously PlayStation is going to show off games that have been being worked on specifically for the Pro that they haven't wanted to show until they could show Pro enhanced versions of the game as the first look versus showing lesser versions early on base PS5 hardware. It's a logical approach, it's smart business to do that.
Heck they might even show the PS5 Pro version of the Blade game where it's going to run best.
"If you think they are just going to show the Pro and not show any games you're the one who is going to be disappointed."
They are. Upcoming 3rd party games and even some existing games.
I said the pro was coming along with a pro showcase. That's not the argument or debate, the debate is rather their big 1st party stuff will be at the show. Or in this case a Showcase because you can't cram those games in 35 minute program.
"Obviously PlayStations Studios are working on projects and if they haven't released them so far they are OBVIOUSLY nearing completion"
If that were true they would of announced them already. Get the hype and pre orders rolling Show something in engine at the first event, THEN show deep dive on PS5 pro showcase along with release dates of late 2025 early 2026 at the second event. Who knows if that'll be the case but I dunno I doubt it.
"Heck they might even show the PS5 Pro version of the Blade game where it's going to run best."
Show Blade on PS BEFORE the Xbox version?
Didn't take long until we get deep in the woods of fanboyism. I think you need to take a nap.
"If that were true they would of announced them already"
I already answered the only point you made in my prior comment.
Obviously there is going to be a big show for the Pro, and obviously >>>>>PlayStatio n is going to show off games that have been being worked on -->specifically for the Pro<--- that they >>haven't wanted to show until they could show Pro enhanced versions of the game<<< as the first look >>>versus showing lesser versions early on base PS5 hardware.<<<< It's a logical approach, it's smart business to do that.
And your premise is not good business, there is no point in showing versions on lower hardware. Did Microsoft show even a single game on the S in their show or any show for that matter... no obviously it was all X (well PC) but not S.
And this is not Microsoft who shows games 5 years before their release date.
You call me a fanboy but look how desperate you are to convince people that PlayStation has 20+ studios and none of them is going to have games ready to show... You could have easily looked at my comment and moved on, but instead you repeatedly try to instigate.
Oh and Death Stranding 2
Show Blade on "PS5 PRO" BEFORE the Xbox version?
They obviously want to show the best version of the game!
Sony's big games will be clear to release after April 2025. It's possible they could show Bends new game on it as I think that game is closer to release than any other 1st party. I'll meet you in the middle that's fairly possible bend or some other game could show up. But ND and Ghost 2 at the same time I just can't see it. GTA 6 second trailer on Pro. Which would be the biggest game out of all the games MS showed. That single game would dwarf everything MS has shown easily. If Sony is willing to throw a staggering amount of money at R* that is.
"You call me a fanboy but look how desperate you are to convince people that PlayStation has 20+ studios and none of them is going to have games ready to show... You could have easily looked at my comment and moved on, but instead you repeatedly try to instigate."
Disagreeing isn't instigating. And I gave you my reasons why their big games won't be at the Pro show except maybe 1 game perhaps. Hey other PS fans on Twitter are calling out Sony on Twitter, these companies are your friends you have demand better something Xbox gamers know more than anyone. Besides you think MS will show Blade on PS before their own console.
Naw you reek of fanboy have some else of awareness and own up to it. Especially after that Blade comment.
"Sony's big games will be clear to release after April 2025"
You question what i say then you just pull this date out of your butt...
Yeah, they are going to wait until this specific after April 2025 to show games instead of at their most important event... just ridiculous...
What you're saying is just dumb... I may be optimistic but you are desperate...
"Disagreeing isn't instigating"
Maybe, but making more and more desperate and ridiculous replies is...
"You question what i say then you just pull this date out of your butt..."
How you gonna claim I made that up then confirm what I just said the very next sentence. I gotta remember I'm Dealing with a fanboy here my lordy...
How am I desperate? Desperate about what? I have both consoles I don't miss out unlike you.
I'm not the one saying Sony is gonna announce their mega hits at Pro showcase. Or how Blade will show up at the PS pro show before an Xbox event. That's the very definition of desperation you're looking for kiddo. I even said it could be possible for at least 1 new 1st party game at best. The rest being 3rd party or games already announced running on Pro.
But hey hope away I guess.
Einhander on every xbox article saying g dates and other confirmation of games but really he has no clue what sony is doing as do I
Don’t know why people are in uproar. This is the best Microsoft showcase in 10 damn years! It’s not like Sony have lost their position as top dog. Calm down people….
This is why competition is good!
Weird that Playstation 5 has had FAR FAR more exclusives released this year already and far more this fall as well so not sure why everyone sees games for Xbox not even out this year or late in 2024 and conveniently forget that fact. Silent Hill 2, Death Stranding 2, Until Dawn, Astrobot and a ton more 3rd party exclusives the rest for the year. I don't think there's a single month where Xbox has more games or exclusives this year at all. It's literally not close in any way shape or form comparing game lists. Even adding the games announced today does NOT change that fact.
"Death Stranding 2 doesn't even release this year."
I stand corrected. Still doesn't change the fact that Playstation has multiple 1st party games and published games this year. 6 games or more if I missed any. Include the fact that Helldivers alone sold 12+ million copies in 12 weeks and I'm not seeing how Playstation is doing badly in comparison.
Xbox isn't exactly blowing past everyone here. Playstation has far more games and exclusives each month. Don't get me wrong Xbox had a great show and it's nice games are releasing.
Which 1st party games. Besides Hell Divers 2 in which they own the IP not so much the studio.
Each month? Ok which big PS exclusives release this and next month.
Around the launch of Spiderman 1 on the PS4 Sony faced significant criticism for showing games far to early and repeatedly showing them over multiple years so the changes tact they show a project when it's near completion.
Xbox loves to show games 3,4 ,5 years plus out from completion but they sprinkle in so many smaller games frequently that it's less of a focus.
And finally props to Xbox after years of duds they finally had a good showcase unfortunately it was full of filler and crap that really took away from it
Sony has no big names for this year outside of astrobot that's just what it is I think they have some big stuff for early next year but are not ready to show it yet.
We are rumoured to be getting a more substantial showcase later in the year.
Sony has no big names this year? FF7 Rebirth and Helldivers 2. And a couple of other million+ seller exclusives.
But i guess it's not first party so it doesn't count as "big name"...
Clarifying I was specifically talking about the recent state of play that was widely panned as lackluster with the only wow moment being astrobot and nothing has been acknowledged for 2025 at this stage.
The point is that Sony has nothing annouced for 2025 and they stopped showing off anything to far ahead while Xbox feels it's perfectly fine to show off a game that may not come out for years so they can have these huge showcases but they beef them out for so much indie filler.
I never actually said anything about their released games so far this year that's never been up for debate first party or third party exclusives.
Right? And it's not like Helldiver 2 sold 12+ million copies in record time for Playstation though. Oh wait....
https://www.pcgamer.com/gam...
I don't think MS "loves" showing games years away. They're simply pressured to do so. Like in 2019 everyone on Twitter was saying where are the games! Despite it being a year since those aquisions. Got mad in 2020 because it was all CG. If they never announced those titles then everyone would be mad, but got mad Anyway because they announced those titles and yes it was CG. Catch 22 situation.
"unfortunately it was full of filler and crap that really took away from it"
What filler and crap? You mean the Expansions and LS updates. Should of know those were gonna be in there, those are communities after all.
As I said above you you think Sony's pro showcase will reveal all the games we want suddenly? They said last year was suppose to be a another big showcase and nothing.
For filler and crap I mean those games that just occupied space they weren't interesting or special in any way and bleed into each other badass female sources takes on mystical enemies possibly with a fish out of water theme ala forspoken I saw at least 5 of those style of games and I was so bored by it.
Xbox has definitely knocked it out the park with their last few shows. In game trailers, gameplay and just more overall exciting announcements.
Sony on the other hand has definitely been stale with their shows as of late. I think we're at a point where all their big name studios are in the middle of development and won't have anything to show until next year, let alone any release dates. And their third party showings are mid.
Not really sure what Sony can do at this point to appease the fans when nothing is ready to be shown.
If I'm being honest I have not been all that impressed with Sony's shows or state of plays ever since they left E3 it feels like they are doing the bare minimum but they used to dominate e3 ever since the first 299 speech all the way up until the here's how you borrow PS4 games.
They were really good at showing it off timing and presentation wise I walked away from their shows wanting to try games j would never want to traditionally.
But nowadays it's so bland you could interchange state of play for almost any other companies presentation
I love my ps5 but Sony really needs to step it up. This years been mostly a bust and I’m hoping 2025 isn’t on the same track.
They released several exclusive games this year and that's all i really need from my PS5.
Sony has done a great job releasing 3rd paty exclusives this year but it's time to show PS5 owners what they are working on when it comes to AAA first-party games. These past few years Sony has been too tight lipped & secretive, something they never used to be.
@ Elda.
I get wanting updates on first party but most first party devs have had less than 3 years of dev time since their last game. Take into account their last games were cross gen games that took over 4 to 5 years to make. And there is the expectation that these new games will bring the "True" next gen so i don't know why it's expected to take less or the same time to make. When they are ready they will show the games and Sony will let them take whatever time they need like they did with the 7+ year helldivers 2 development.
All i hear with this first party talk is people asking Sony to crack the crunch whip...
ND's last game was 4 years ago, the same for Sucker Punch & Media Molecule. There's supposed to be a title being developed by Santa Monica studios for a few years now. I get not showing something that is 3 years or more away from being released but I'm quite sure there will be some first-party titles that'll be released in 2025/2026 & now is the time to start getting PS5 owners hyped. Up until 2018 Sony had no problem showing games that were being developed. For the past 5 years they have been very tight lipped & secretive.
One was a 30 minute highlight of some games, the other was a major showcase from many developers and publishers of upcoming games from 2024-2025, Sony will have a similar showcase in September no?
It's in engine footgae to the credit of the devs they are highly skilled and they did help epic build the matrix demo. But Sony have another 5 years to figure it out there's no date on E day and it's a ms show I wouldn't expect that game anytime soon might be a crossgen title at this point.
Yeah service games have been at the detriment of older fans but it's definitely more appealing to the younger crowds I think.
I've been a PS gamer since the PS1 and a gamer since the 8 bit era I've never seen the lack of variety in games that we are seeing now
I just want to say yes the Xbox showcase was definitely the best these past couple weeks but I’m a pc gamer. Nothing in Xbox’s show ever really mentioned exclusivity so it’s a show all of us can enjoy really.
Yeah I'm not feeling jealous at all. I own a gaming pc a ps5 and a switch I'm covered. I guess ppl are more willing to complain than to spend some money on hardware
I'd assume some things are going to be exclusive like perfect dark but the big thing for me is doom is Multi plat would have been very angry if it wasn't as a long time doom fan it should be on everything can possibly run on calculators potatoes etc that's in the games DNA
While this is Xbox's best showing in years, I'm just looking at all the games available for PC, quite a few of these games are multi-plats as well.
Your point being? Is exclusivity to a platform necessary for you to play a game?
Regarding the games that were showcased, did you find them interesting?
If the answer is yes then it's a win and a double win if you get to play them.
Literally over half the games are multiplatform titles. A quarter or so if which Microsoft will have had to basically pay the development costs for to get day 1 on games pass. People don't even need to buy a pc to play most of the games shown.
Oh wow. Look at that. You can tell when someone is a fanboy when no matter what your obsession does you always praise them. In this case it seems all these Sony fans are clearly not fanboys.
I own all 3 current consoles but I'm a PS gamer first. I have to say out of the many disappointing XB showcases I've seen over the years XB/MS turned it out this year with a great showing of games mostly releasing next year & most are releasing on Gamepass. MS/XB showcase was the best videogame showcase this year so far. The only downside about the event was most games shown had no concrete release dates including some games releasing this year. Sony needs to step up to the plate & stop this silent treatment being secretive about the games their working on. I understand games that may be far off from releasing but any games that are going to be released within the next 12 to 18 months they should show.
The sole positive aspect is that we experienced a comparable scenario last year with Xbox regarding Starfield's release date, which was ultimately revealed during the September Showcase. We can anticipate a similar announcement for Indiana Jones and Avowed.
I may try playing Indiana Jones & Avowed to see what they're giving, those 2 games are not in my top list to play, to me both games look somewhat meh. Most games shown at XB Showcase that looked very interesting to me that I'm eager to play are not releasing until next year.
Xbox showcases are always impressive though. Half of these games have been at showcases since 2019: Fable, Avowed, Stalker 2, Perfect Dark, and the Dragon Age formally known as Dreadwolf all have.
With that being said though, Sony needs to do better. This is what happens when there isn’t any real competition.
I think we've reached a point of industry consolidation where Sony is unlikely to have a better showcase unless you see what their main first party studios are working on. Literally, Microsoft just needs to get agreement from third parties to show their games, and also sprinkle in their first party games. They have a ridiculous amount of studios now. To the point that they can have some of their studios show off AAA titles while the others are still developing theirs. Sony won't have ABK or Zenimax titles at their shows anymore.
To compound that, the moment Sony shows what their big studios have been working on, well... That's kind of it until they have new projects. If the same games are shown again, the perception becomes "nothing new was shown".
Playstation isn't going to be hurting for content on the platform, but I don't see how they can have a better showing on any consistent basis given that Microsoft has about twice as many studios. Microsoft would literally have to show off terrible games in that scenario (though, to be fair, it's not always immediately clear before release that games are bad—Redfall is a good example of this).
Personally, I wouldn't mind the updates on Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog, even if they show them again at a later date before release. But I get the perception. I guess we'll have to wait and see the approach taken by the new leadership.
Microsoft will run games into the ground eventually imo. Just have to wait. You can't moneyhat your way to the top for long when it comes to video games. You need a culture of creativity.
Honestly, I think they had a good showing. I personally won't be supporting any of their games, but they definitely had a solid showing.
Unfortunately, exactly what I thought would happen, did happen: people are willing to overlook the recent studio closures if the showing was solid. It was, and people are. Difference of opinion, which is fine, but yeah, I personally can't in good conscience buy any of these first party multiplatform games, even if they come to PlayStation.
Force of habit for me. I stopped using Windows and MS products years ago, cancelled my Playstation Plus sub, don't buy products supportive of Israel, and I'm only now thinking to give Konami a chance after canning Kojima and snubbing him (because I feel that he's been unshackled and is thriving).
I do miss out on things because of this, but it's hardly a downside where savings are concerned.
Darxyde I don't mind giving microsoft money when they do good but they usually make stinkers and quality always gets worse from their micromanaging. I only buy single player games 99 percent of the time so usually I'm not impressed by microsoft much. The only reason I own starfield is that it regrettably came with my cpu purchase as a freebie. Would have liked a different game but oh well my 7800x3d was worth it.
Sony's leading market share is advantageous, as third-party developers tend to favor platforms with a wide user base to outperform competitors. It seems Sony is adopting a similar approach to Nintendo, focusing on not squandering resources unnecessarily.
What??? That's the stupidest thing Ive ever heard!This ain't no democracy! PlayStation had a bad showing, it was a State of Play, that's how they usually go, as opposed to the E3 Press Conferences they used to have THAT WERE AWESOME! But, everyone wanted to follow Nintendo now so, this is what we get, boring. But, you don't go to PlayStation and say "That sucked, give us something better!" That's NOT how it works. PlayStation, themselves, have to evaluate how things went and decide on their own.
It's like playing hockey (Stanley Cup Finals time). You have to plan out your strategies. Put your players with the right lines that sync and can pull off good plays because they can read each other. Sometimes the opposition breaks through and sadly, sometimes they get a Breakway, but you usually have your two defenseman that hold things off so you can regroup, maybe call for a changeup to reset and strike again. That's what this showing was, it's not a breakway challenging PlayStation's goalie but it puts their offense in a change for a shot on goal to see if they can score. PlayStation has their goalie and he's fine, but Xbox got a good offense play.
There was very little GAMEPLAY in Xbox's presentation. It was mostly trailers with text that said in-game engine, that doesn't mean much of anything, yet. Trailers mean the game is still aways out, especially with Fable.
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Now, this is also why it's not a breakway. Xbox has no gameplay. Gears E-Day, for example, we don't know how far exactly out it could be and we have no idea, yet, what Naughty Dog, Bend, Media Molecule, and maybe Sucker Punch (probably Ghost of Tsushima 2, which is too predictable). We do know what's coming from Insomniac, which isn't great. You only have so many Marvel fans and a lot of PlayStation fans aren't happy about the leak, it's all Marvel. NO Sunset Overdrive 2, nothing from Insomniac that's daring or inventive like they used to be, but, it's NOT a breakway because we have no idea how long Xbox games are out, especially where Xbox is teetering on the hardware front and toying with multi-platform. Will it launch on Game Pass, but The Coalition also needs to be ready to release on PS5 and they need a team working on that. Are they waiting to see the Switch 2 and if Gears E-Day will run on it like it'll run on the Series S. We don't know. What we do know now, is that when PlayStation announced something, these days, it's not far off from release like it used to be. PlayStation's offense is much quicker. PlayStation's teams have had a long time to work on games and Xbox is having to rely on Activision to try and carry the weight. Bethesda is trying to be Insomniac. The studio that has a lot of games going to crank them out, that's how Insomniac used to be.
So, we got a bad showing or severely underwealming showing from PlayStation and Xbox had a good one, applaud them for that. Let them have that win, they earned it.
But, you're comparing a State of Play to an Xbox Showcase, what should've been Xbox's Stanley Cup Finals or World Series but, Xbox had a lot of third-party showing which is free marketing for PlayStation for consumers that watched and have a PS5 that's a bigger install base.
When Sony shows their Showcase, what they need to do is a pre-show to get all the third-party stuff out of the way and then move into the main event that's all first-party games and their hardware. The PS5 Pro and top that off with a major franchise or new IP from their strongest developer to show what the PS5 Pro can do. They ALSO need to let the PS4 go. Here we are halfway through the PS5 generation still asking the question "Why do I have a PS5?" Did Xbox answer that question? No. We saw nothing that differences Xbox One X from Xbox Series X.
Wait until Sonys PlayStation Showcase. If they blow that, then you can be worried and irate. But your kind of comparing Apples to Mangos. PlayStation gave you Apples. Xbox gave your oranges, were waiting on PlayStations mangos
Xbox answered the question "why do I have a ps5" because half the games shown were multiplatform games I'll enjoy playing on my ps5. That's not even considering the fact that showcase literally cost Microsoft 80 billion dollars and from what we have been hearing a good chunk of their exclusive titles will likely be on ps5 aswell.
I don't beg but surely it wouldn't hurt if they were to tease some, and they did none of that.
Just little something to grab your attention and hype meter in check and see it's still working.
They relied too much on 3rd party to ride through their drought period.
This should be the lesson that they have to make and release smaller tighter and fun games during this period it doesn't have to be all AAA titles which took forever to make.
Astro Bot is their answer but that's just one game that can really shine while all their big guns are still in the workshop, they need more.
Sony got too comfy for a bit with being ahead of xbox lol smh steady babbling on about live service games lol funny thing us they been talking more about live service than Microsoft smh
These articles are ridiculous. Begging ? We have seen Xbox shows praised so many times and then the games come out and bleh. Same cycle every Xbox show
Sounds like something Pushsquare would write.
I do agree Sony needs to start to show their future plans on what they are releasing. I mean as a gamer I been eating good with console exclusives such Granblue Relink, FF7 and Stellar Blade as well as other multiplatform titles so I'm happy in that department personally.
I'm glad that MS while lot of it wasn't gameplay in parts least they showed for the first time in years they sort of had a identity of its own with their first party as well as their third party reveals despite not being a fan of MS. Which over a long period of time in the past they just want to put on things they can take from Sony and Nintendo.
When Sony announces games that have a while to go people get upset. When Sony announces a state of play filled with 3rd party focus people get upset. Sony announces tons of VR games that are exclusive, and info on games releasing soon people get upset.
Microsoft shows us 3 games they announced over the last 3 years with a bunch of 3rd party support and more expensive console revisions. People claim this what they want online?
Yall fried in the head
Maybe they should talk more, but the truth is that half the games shown during the Xbox showcase are also on Playstation day one or PC. At the end of the day anyone that wants access to these games can get it.
I'm either a spoiled little brat.
Or just a gamer. I go for the spoiled brat so that I don't have to let others label me as such.
It was a decent Showcase. But I didn't get my jaw dropped to the floor, either.
I don't know where this discrepancy comes from.
But it's simply astonishing that the perception of the Showcase ranges from "Oh my gawd! Best ever. I think I got pregnant. Legendary!" to me thinking "It was good, but why over-hyping it?"
I agree though: re-introducing the beloved Gears of War franchise truly was a great moment!
Many games will be releasing multiplatform. I don't take that and shoot with it against Microsoft. It's a good thing, especially for an IP like DOOM.
And many of the exclusive 1st party titles they've shown were already on the radar. I applaud Microsoft for that Showcase (except for the pricing of the the new XSX model), but man ... I reject this over-hyping alot. It's cringe.
And as for the never-ending topic of a Playstation Showcase goes:
Another discrepancy I don't know where this is coming from.
Sony's is having a decent 2024 software line-up, too.
And they were brave enough openly communicating "No major 1st party titles until March 2025".
We still have approx. 4½ years left on PS5.
Santa Monica, ND, Sucker Punch, Insomniac, etc. are VERY likely going to release at least one/another game for the PS5 until its lifecycle fades over to PS6.
Please: for the love of my hamster - just let them cook already! Why is that so difficult?
I really, really don't get it.
My the difference a day makes……Sony better hope the Xbox games do come to PlayStation after that rubbish state of play.
can I just say something you may be too young to remember
"Never, underestimate the power of playstation"
people acting like Sonys new games arn't 2nd wave, hahaha, the games we seen soo far, have all been cross-gen, we know what happens when sonys developers get a handle on the hardware, they maximise it to the core.
Sony is coasting on the success of PS5. They've become lazy and focused more on live service than single player games like they used to.
while I don't expect them to show anything until sometime next year. It would make sense to show a couple of games alongside the pro.
I don wonder why they don't atleast show third party trailers. Like ms had Assassins Creed and Dragon Age. Wouldn't sony want to be the ones showing this stuff, being the leader and all? Or is it just a waste of time marketing wise?
Remember Redfall being shown and being treated like 2nd coming of the baby jesus ?
Yeah super great Xbox show
In the meantime, nintendo laughs all the way to the bank. They just need to start their direct with «itsAMe maaaarioooo» or a blade swinging from a boy and its all win win win. 🎉😄 Seriously though, both Microsoft and Sony needs to up their game on first party games… its to much focus on AAA/high fidelity, need more focus on actual gameplay, mechanics that swooops people to the screen for hours.
Microsoft did a good job yesterday, but i felt like i saw the same game when i was looking at 5-7 different games, and all had focus on graphics
There's no room for Avengers in KH3, maybe MAYBE Star Wars with the Tron level being a success in KH2, but no Avengers.
We don't need an article explaining the obvious. Might as well make an article explaining why we won't see Tomb Raider or Deus Ex characters in the game as well.
Besides there's already Marvel representation in KH3 in the form of Big Hero 6.
Damn! Didn't even think of that! Though what about the annoying one from Episdoe 1 lol!
Keep that stuff out of it I say. Neither Tron nor PotC should have been in it either.
They should have stuck to classic Disney films all along. Would've made the game more cohesive I think.
i personally would be down with either and or both honestly :/ plus you have these massive licenses might as well put them to good use and give kh3 a little extra something seeing how its taking so damn long anyhow