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Xbox Head Phil Spencer Comments on Crackdown 3 and Phantom Dust: Cloud Tech "Is Working Great"

Phil Spencer comments positively about two upcoming Xbox games, Crackdown 3 and Phantom Dust.

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nevarDcirE2676d ago

MS better have an amazing E3, or no Scorpio for me.

aconnellan2676d ago

Agreed. Previously I was pretty keen based on a spec upgrade alone, but the last couple of months (even the last couple of weeks) have rocked the boat a bit for MS, so E3 will play a huge role in swaying those who are on the fence about Scorpio.

They really need to kill it, nothing less will cut it

GtR35olution2676d ago

When will people realize that all this talk is 4ckery. Xbox one has been on the market for over four years now and its been one pipe dream after another with nothing to show for it. I remember xbox pr saying xbox one will be 10 times more powerful with the power of the cloud but after years of talk we havent seen anything. I remember e3 a couple years ago where crackdown was supposedly going to show the power but that game has had delay after delay. Xbox pr team needs to stop the lies. The playstation team isnt trying to sell any pipe dreams but game consoles and games

CP_Company2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

i can't understand,why people even considering to buy scorpio? just to show off? or what? i think,most important are games.what can they offer from games? almost nothing! it is not like scorpio going to cost 99$ or 199$,it is going to be at least 499$.a lot of people laugh from Sony because they don't put 4k drive into Pro or Slim,and look at it now? whos laughing now? no one is speaking about that,no one.now,a lot of people speaking about killer line-up games.console sales are huge because software is amazing and versatile.what will have scorpio? few games? that is it?
p.s. when MS was amazing in E3? :)

morganfell2676d ago

@aconnellan,

Just curious and I mean that but could you define "kill it"? Do the games have to launch this year for "kill it" or will you be satisfied with games that are shown that are not given a launch date along with enhancements for current and past titles?

TheCommentator2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

CP, some people just want the best tech period and may have bought the Pro for the same reason already. Others may not have an XB1 yet, and want to make sure what they buy will last as long as possible before becoming obsolete. Maybe they're interested in no compromise native 4K, 2nd gen VR experiences like the headsets debuted at CES, UHD BluRay, and BC/FC. Maybe it's just their preference to buy MS products. With assumption cast aside for a moment, the only real answer is that it's a consumers choice to decide.

OT: I want to say that I can respect your strongly worded opinion without defamating your character. You don't have to like MS or its' products and your perspective is valid. I don't have to like Sony or its' products just the same. Of course, now that I've played Devil's advocate and answered your question, I'm sure It'll be me who gets called out... yet again(SIGH)... for having an opinion that differs from that of a Sony fan. So be it, let the personal attacks commence, because I will continue to voice my opinions just the same as you were allowed to voice yours.

RosweeSon2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

Selling my Xbox one s once I've finished the exclusives so yeah Scorpio got a waaay to go to get me on board Games first and foremost if i wanted a tech'd out PC I'd get... a tech'd out PC I want a games console.
Preferably with some games... from this gen.
that's not a dig at BC but I got a 360 still I can just use that more to the point I'm not buying most powerful console in the world to play BC games and watch Netflix. Pass.

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Lonnie182676d ago

Cloud Tech doesn't really matter anymore with PS PRO out and HDR on all ps4's!

aconnellan2676d ago

Would you mind explaining why not?

Obscure_Observer2676d ago

Well, people call out Phil a liar by using the Scorpio to ditch the Cloud for the Xbox One. E3 is goin to be interesting indeed. :)

BizarroUltraman2676d ago

I believe HDR made its debut on Xbox One S. Youre right, all old PS4 has HDR yet cant output any 4K content to reallly take full advantage of HDR.

Whats funny when you look up HDR games on PS4 on yt. 99% are all PS4 Pro vids. Where are the vanillas showing off that color gamut...lol

Liqu1d2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

What have they got to do with the cloud?

Aries832676d ago

It's not even true HDR on vanilla PS4 models. Look it up if you want to be honest with yourself.

TheCommentator2676d ago

Do you mind explaining how 20 XB1's worth of compute power from the cloud (25tf+) doesn't matter when compared to a 4.2tf system? Did you know that the cloud will also enhance the 6tf Scorpio as well?

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aconnellan2676d ago

I wholeheartedly agree that they need to start showing it sooner rather than later, but the article was written about a reply to a Tweet:

"Please Phil, we need more news about Crackdown 3 or new gameplay. 2017 is looking kinda dry for Xbox One tbh"

His reply was "Just played Crackdown3 w/ @shannonloftis Best CD exp I've had. Agent control, world is very alive, diverse enemies, really fun"

Replying to a Tweet isn't the best format to show the first lot gameplay for Crackdown 3 - also, given how big the project is (and how much work publishing is in general), they'll already have a schedule of when they're showing it and what exactly they're showing, so they'll be sticking to that. Unfortunately for us, that'll probably be around E3 time.

It's interesting to wonder, however, if the last couple of weeks of bad press will impact that or not, like whether they'll show Crackdown 3 earlier/later, or shuffle around some stuff for the Scorpio reveal. Time will tell, I guess

Obscure_Observer2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

Wait for E3. If Cloud works for Crackdown 3, some people will choke with crow stuck in their throats!

UCForce2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

Look, I understand. But we haven't seen Crackdown 3 gameplay since 2015. So you believe Phil Spencer that much ?

Edit : @Obscure_Observer Ok, I see.

CP_Company2676d ago

after 4 and half year,some people still talking about "cloud",so how many years we will need to wait that mighty "cloud"?

nowitzki20042676d ago

And if they dont show actual gameplay with enemies and all? or if it doesnt work as great as everyone thinks? Will anyone be choking then?

Obscure_Observer2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

@UCForce

Yeah. I belive Phil is honest at heart. He doesn´t run or shy away from the Scalebound´s cancellation fallout! And to me, it says a lot about a leader. He faced (and still are facing) angry Xbox One owners, fans and fanboys like a boss.

He is nothing like the PR clowns at MS like Greenberg. Heres what he said about the "Year of the Scorpio" despise of his fellow co-workers corporated PR BS claims:

"Going to be a good year. Work to do on games, platform, XBL and hardware, fun times. Im waiting to hype until we show games"

If he is not hyping the Scorpio, why would him hype or lie about Crackdown 3´s development? Doesn´t even make sense.

So yeah, i´m expecting Phil and Xbox team to deliver on this and shove crow down the throat of the naysayers. ;)

I understand that might turn out disappointed on this. But i rather stay positive than negative. :)

nowitzki20042676d ago

@Obscure
"I understand that might turn out disappointed on this. But i rather stay positive than negative. :)"

Its a good way to go about life. I hope it works and works great. Just from what we have seen and little they have shown, doesnt tell me that they are very confident with it.

tyasia02676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

@Obscure_Observer

"Wait for E3. If Cloud works for Crackdown 3, some people will choke with crow stuck in their throats!"

I'll wait untill the game is in peoples hands and not on a closed network.

"Yeah. I belive Phil is honest at heart. He doesn´t run or shy away from the Scalebound´s cancellation fallout! And to me, it says a lot about a leader. He faced (and still are facing) angry Xbox One owners, fans and fanboys like a boss."

What, going on a twitter rampage to distract people and try to change the conversation topic?

"He is nothing like the PR clowns at MS like Greenberg. Heres what he said about the "Year of the Scorpio" despise of his fellow co-workers corporated PR BS claims: "

He is the head of Xbox, he's greenlighting what these guys say. Do you think he was unaware of how misleading the "Best Selling Console" or the "4K Gaming" ads ect. were? Did he stop them? No.

"If he is not hyping the Scorpio, why would him hype or lie about Crackdown 3´s development? Doesn´t even make sense."

Why... because you Xbox guys keep falling for the Microsoft hype machine every time they do it.

"I understand that might turn out disappointed on this."

Good.

Obscure_Observer2676d ago

@tyasia0

Since you call me a "Xbox guy", is clear that you don´t know nothing about me. I understand. You don´t trust Phil. Good for you. By reading your comments i´m not gonna waste my time trying to change your mind.

Happy gamming! :)

Lonnie182674d ago

Please Crackdown probably canceled lol.

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Gazondaily2676d ago

Don't worry. When they show the tech then the goalposts will move for the naysayers to something else...

Oh wait...they already showed it......

RosweeSon2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

Took the words out of my mouth Talk is indeed cheap look at patcher.. I could sit hear and talk Crackdown 3 up doesnt mean anything tho. Show the game of let us see it play a demo the game will talk for itself if it's up to scratch. They better hope so otherwise they better go buy up games.
I'd say sweet it's good septic I've got no problem with saying something is good if it's warranted. They've shown naff all of the game as all we hear is yeah it's looking sweet.. show us trailer a recent one. Cloud stuff is all good but pretty crap if internet is down. Reckon it'll be a mess Myself not like it's a top series anyway Crackdown 1 was cool 2 was alright 3 is MIA. ✌🏻

Gazondaily2676d ago

So say it works. Say they do what you're saying and let you play the demo or the game. And the tech works.

What will you say then?

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TechnoGoat2676d ago

Too bad releasing exclusives isn't working...

nowitzki20042676d ago

He could at least tweet "New Ips are coming along great!"

tinynuggins2676d ago

Why does he need to tweet what we already know? Of course ms has new ips and unannounced games in development. Same with sony and Nintendo. They shouldnt have to show their cards early just to make you feel better right now. Just be patient and wait for e3. If after e3 you're not happy, sell the system.

game4funz2676d ago

Didn't they already do that?... Phil already said new ips at e3

mark_parch2676d ago

i'm really excited for crackdown but i think i might be disappointed

nowitzki20042676d ago

Same here. CD1 is one of my all time favorites. CD2 was forgettable though. Keeping a very close watch on CD3 but not getting my hopes too high.

kassler2676d ago

If it's working great, why not show it? Xbox are in need of some positive news!

Obscure_Observer2676d ago

Why would they do that? E3 is the perfect event to show the cloud power to the world. (if it really works like it supposed to on multiplayer mode)

nowitzki20042676d ago

So far the only video I have seen of gameplay had 0 enemies and looked like a X360 game

Obscure_Observer2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

@nowitzki2004

In case you didn´t notice the "gameplay" you´re referring to was intented to show the cloud tech behind the game. Zero "enemies"? Of course! It was a tech demo and not a full multiplayer competitive match. And oh, it looked like a 360 game to you? Guess what? The game wasn´t polished either!

Nice try though. ;)

nowitzki20042676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

Its not my fault thats all they showed. If I had something great and it worked, I wouldnt wait 2 years to show it again lol.

sinspirit2676d ago

@Obscure_Observer

Many tech demo's actually have great graphics nowadays. And, from how much time has passed between so many of these games MS revealed we have gotten next to nothing for updates. Not even screen captures. It's ridiculous to see you trying to spin more positivity out of their continued lack of support and lame attempts and numbers games at marketing.

Cloud is a gimmick in the way they are trying to present it to you and what they want you to believe. 99% of the things they pretend are new are actually over a decade old. And, the make believe that they will dedicate so many resources to your console on their dime is a ridiculous thing to think. I did really intense research a while ago on this, and so have many others. The latency is too much. Their servers, even locally, are not up to par in power, consistency of server units(they have a ton of variations of low to mid range server hardware from 5 years ago), and it costs to much resources just to get it to function properly in software at the level they want you to believe they will do, and even if they do make it work it is financially a waste of their own time and money and as a business they won't actually do it. That is why all of their demos have been connected to a local server.

Obscure_Observer2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

@nowitzki2004

"Its not my fault thats all they showed. If I had something great and it worked, I wouldnt wait 2 years to show it again lol."

The cloud computing that will (hopefuly) power Crackdown 3's multiplayer mode is a PIONEER technology on console games. The tech is in its infant days. The project and investment are HUGE. And you just expect it to work like charm? The game was announced on June 2014, will take 3 year to be released and yet here you are ranting, complaing and making demands like things should meet your agenda/expectations. If the game so far doesn´t impressed you at all, one can wonder why do you even care?

E3 is not far away. Give it time and relax.

Obscure_Observer2676d ago (Edited 2676d ago )

@sinspirit

"Many tech demo's actually have great graphics nowadays. And, from how much time has passed between so many of these games MS revealed we have gotten next to nothing for updates. Not even screen captures"

I´m also dying for some screenshots, videos, news and updates for Detroit Become Human as well. And so far, nothing! Does it make me angry? No!

"It's ridiculous to see you trying to spin more positivity out of their continued lack of support and lame attempts and numbers games at marketing."

Maybe. But not more ridiculous than fanboys ranting, hating and spread FUD and lies on every positive MS and Nintendo articles. They fool no one with their false concern and biased agenda. They´re only fooling themselves to think anyone really care or fall for their tired, lame and repeated hateful gospel sh%$.

"Cloud is a gimmick in the way they are trying to present it to you and what they want you to believe."

MS is a leading cloud computing company (Azure). So forgive me for take their words in consideration on this matter after many years of experience, research, resources, money, investiments, structure, marketing and manpower over your "intense internet research".

But hey, we shall see soon. E3 is not that far. :)

rainslacker2675d ago (Edited 2675d ago )

Yeah, I mean, last E3, where we were told to wait for that event....remember? I do. They gave a developer diary saying how exciting it was working on the game, and barely showing anything.

Kind of what they did with the Scorpio reveal....saying how all those developer dreams could now come true.

MS likes to talk about the game, but they do seem to have a really hard time actually showing the game. That's not usually a good sign. Consider they showed off Scalebound in what Xbox fans now claim is a terrible state, which everyone else called a terrible state before, yet all we get from CD3 is some canned "simulated" footage for a video of the developers talking about how exciting it is to develop the game.

nothing to worry about though....no reason for concern.....MS is good at delivering on the hype.

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Darkfist_Flames2676d ago

great, cancel them both, the xbox gamers will happy :)

notachance2676d ago

xbox fanboys be like 'it's good that MS cancel both games instead of releasing mediocre quality games'
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the only xbox exclusive ever got > 90 metacritic is forza horizon 3, which also released on PC

TheCommentator2676d ago

The developers behind RIGS say hello. 3rd Sony studio to close down recently, right? Both companies cancel production, but it obviously has less impact on a company that has more studios to absorb the loss (like Sony). I'm excited for what's coming from MS this year already so anything announced now is just icing on my cake!

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Xbox President Sarah Bond's Bloomberg Interview Is Corporate Fakery At Its Best

Saad from eXputer: "After Arkane Austin & Tango were shutdown, Xbox President Sarah Bond spoke with Bloomberg in what I believe to be utter corporate fakery."

gold_drake14h ago

im not really surprised by that, shes always been more a "let me talk about something else than what u want to know" kinda gal

Cacabunga7h ago

If what they are doing is that good, what’s the point of hiding the true story?

anast11h ago

She's a caricature of the shareholders.

PRIMORDUS9h ago

"Shareholders" I call them cancer, they are already rich to begin with but need more and more. It's like a disease, with no cure.

Leeroyw6h ago

I own shares in game companies. I'm not anything near a major share holder. I just want them to make good games and be successful because of that. I think it's the senior management that's the problem. They are the ones that should be making it clear to the shareholders what creates growth and ensures a future of their business. Not this weasle words garbage that she did on the interview. It was horrific. I don't know a shareholder that would be happy with any of them for this.

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Same and I'm not rich by any stretch like most people's I'm just trying to keep my head above water these days most company's shareholders are made up of everyday people it's amazing how companies think we want something but the reality is we don't.

Disney are probably the worse at the moment it's shareholders voted on ending a lot of the crap and outing the current execs the execs turned around and said no we disagree with the shareholder vote

PRIMORDUS1h ago

I meant at the rich fucks who have millions in the bank already. They are making so much per year, that if they don't make what they are expecting they go into a panic, when in reality it will not even hurt them at all. Those are greedy assholes.

CrimsonWing6911h ago

Yea, it was and it’s insulting that they think we’re dumb enough to fall for this. Look, the truth was you took a gamble on these studios and while they released some games to critical praise and great reception they just aren’t bringing in a ROI. Be transparent, you’re not a politician.

Just tell everyone you spend money on projects big and small and when money isn’t being made you go over the potential of revenue a studio can bring in vs those that can’t and make the hard decision to chop them.

She says this whole thing about “success” doesn’t fit one meaning for each studio. Well yea, a small budget production isn’t going to expect to sell the same as a large budget production.

One thing I wish they did though was let Tango be an independent studio.

TheGamingHounds10h ago

disheartening to see no regard for the human cost of business anymore
the bad decisions and judgements of these CEOs severely impact the frontliners
these fake responses are just salt on wounds

RoadRacer10h ago

imagine havin the audacity to say "we need more games like hifi rush" right after closing the studio that made it lol
followin up with this show of "deflecting every question" was in poor taste

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CrimsonWing6911h ago

Alot’s changed in 25 years. We have games with $300 mill budgets, people not interested in games other than Fortnite and Minecraft, the older generation of gamers giving up the hobby or dying off, a period of super bad inflation where the industry decided to hike up prices on games, Gamepass harming game sales, GaaS games being pushed left and right with obnoxious monetization and worse looking/playing (Suicide Squad vs Arkham Knight).

The industry is just shite right now. Games ain’t selling, games cost massive amounts, businesses can’t bleed money and this is what happens. Part of it is on them and part of it is on consumers not buying.

Yi-Long55m ago

Consumers ain't buying because of what they're selling; There is no new SSX or Burnout, everything is now Online Required, everything is 'service', etc.

Indies are still delivering the goods, perhaps even better than ever, because those are often the guys and gals who know what they want to make and just make that and hopefully we dig it as well and support it ...

... but when you look at those multi-million budget AAA games, are they improving on what we have had before? Is the new Forza Motorsport better than a Forza Mototsport 4? Is Halo Infinite better than Halo 3? Is Dragon Age 2 such a huge improvement over the first Dragon Age? Etcetc.

Yeah, graphics have gotten better, worlds have gotten better, but I think a gaming generations stands or falls with diversity and experiences, and a few gens ago we had access to whatever we wanted, so if we wanted a boxing game we picked up one of the boxing games, if we wanted snowboarding we'd pick up one of the snowboarding games, if we wanted to do a rythm game we had DJ Hero, or Guitar Hero, or Rockband. If we wanted to sneak around we had Splinter Cell or MGS or whatever.

We had variety and we had options, and that makes or breaks a generation, imo. You're in a foodcourt of games and they're serving all kinds of different cuisines, and so you'd pick and choose whatever you felt like that day.

Right now, you're in a restaurant, and you're only allowed to pick from one menu, and there's a dress-code, and you have to register, and you have to stay in your seat, etc etc.