PSVR Will Sell Under 750K Units This Year, Down from Initial 2.6M Projection, According to Forecast

Market research and analytics firm SuperData Research has issued a revised 2016 sales forecast for the PSVR, estimating that Sony's virtual reality headset will shift fewer than 750,000 units by the end of the year – well short of its recent prediction of 2.6 million.

[PhoenixUp]

That's a more realistic expectation. We don't have so many killer apps for VR that would make it just burst off the shelves this holiday season

[UCForce]

I agree on that one. Especially VR is a new tech, so it would take long time for VR to become mainstream. 750.000 PSVR units is a good start, slight better than Vive and Rift. Still, we have a long way to go.

Here the links : https://www.google.com.vn/a...

[Movefasta1993]

there are no killers apps,resident evil will be the first good reason to get one.

[Eonjay]

Resident Evil is gonna kill people. Can't wait to see the lets plays!

[kraenk12]

I don't know how it is in the states but over here in Europe as in Japan the thing is sold out everywhere. If anything holds up its sales it's Sony's struggle to keep up with demand.

[vigilante_man]

You don't need killer apps. There are more than enough demos to get a feel for it and experience VR. It will only get better.

Bought mine last week and so many friends who do not even game want to come over and try it out. VR is here to stay and is the next big thing along with 4K HDR. Especially in the UK.

[Death]

PSVR is the opposite of 4k/HDR. The image quality while using PSVR is a pretty big leap backwards as far as visual fidelity goes. You don't get the screen door effect but you do get some pretty blocky pixels. Texture detail is much lower too to meet the demands VR places on the GPU/CPU. 4K and HDR are doing the opposite, they are taking high def gaming to the next level. At $399 each, most gamers will have to choose between the two and that doesn't include a relatively expensive 4K/HDR or the camera and remotes on the VR side if you go the other direction.

I do agree the wow factor for PSVR is huge when you get it. The problem with it is the same as Rift and Vive, there isn't much worth doing with it after a week or two.

[Brisco]

Ah another sony employee I see.

[MasterCornholio]

I don't know if 750k is a good amount or a bad one. Regardless it appears that they overestimated the amount by a ton. Usually these research firms are not off by that much so im wondering if they made a mistake when they made their estimates.

Anyways I hope VR as a whole succeeds.

[Thatguy-310]

More than the competition and that's with them struggling with meeting demand.

[jaymacx]

Its not bad considering the cost and the available games. I'm holding off for awhile. Maybe if I was Sony only but I'm not ... saving up for Switch and Scorpio launches

[Yohshida]

Look at it like this: is it worth for a dev to make a vr game and reach 800k or better to make a ps4 game and reach 50 Million?

This leads into fewer games which gives people even fewer reasons to Buy one = Dead . Most devs dont even make games for vita and it sold way more.

[MasterCornholio]

This isn't a confirmation that PSVR is dead though. What we have to look at is how it sells after launch.

[jukins]

It's always worth a developer working on a new platform even with a low install base. Just think if every dev had that kind of thinking we would never get any games for new hardware because of the initial low install base.

[trooper_]

You only want it to be dead.

[Angeljuice]

A developer producing a "must have" PSVR franchise could set themselves up for 20 years of being the top developer for the tech.

A medium sized developer will see this as an opportunity to forge their name as the new big hitter on the VR scene, potentially for decades to come.

[Death]

We will see many small games by indie devs that have low risk and the potential for high rewards. Time hasn't been kind with Rift or Vive since launch early this year. I'm not sure why, but the games haven't really followed. I think the restrictions of VR are holding it back. When you add the high entry cost it's not an ideal combination.

[CorndogBurglar]

They weren't taking stock into consideration. Sony didn't project anywhere near that. They expected to sell "hundreds of thousands". Likely because they knew how many units they were pushing out.

[MasterCornholio]

If Sony projected hundreds of thousands then I guess the prediction is in line with what Sony is expecting.

[CorndogBurglar]

Well sure. The console is sold out in many areas. Why would Sony project to sell 2.6 million when they didn't even manufacture enough consoles to pull those numbers?

"Sony is expecting its PlayStation VR (virtual reality) headset to sell "hundreds of thousands" of units AFTER its launch Thursday and the company is ramping up production capacity to deal with the expected demand, the European president of the electronic giant's gaming division told CNBC."

[MasterCornholio]

"Why would Sony project to sell 2.6 million when they didn't even manufacture enough consoles to pull those numbers?"

What's funny is that it wasn't Sony who predicted that number.

"SuperData Research has issued a revised 2016 sales forecast for the PSVR, estimating that Sony's virtual reality headset will shift fewer than 750,000 units by the end of the year – well short of its recent prediction of 2.6 million."

It was Super Data that did.

LOL

Right there in the article yet some people are accusing Sony for predicting that number.

ROFL

[madmonkey01]

in the UK it is pretty much out of stock perpetually since launch,

[Nicaragua]

Same in Europe, in fact most places have back order lists so it seems to me that they are selling every unit they make.

With that in mind its more of a case that they cannot produce 2.6 million units rather than cannot sell 2.6 million units.

[kraenk12]

Not sure why people disagree (actually I know why)..it's the same situation in Germany, Japan and the rest of Europe.

[DashArrivals]

Same in Australia

[maybelovehate]

They are all sitting at Australia's Customs restriction Office

[lelo2play]

Live in Portugal, I see PSVR's gathering dust in the stores. I don't think its selling much over here.

[lelo2play]

@big_dom_strikes_back

No, they are the actual device for sale in the box's. I know a few gamers with PS4's and PC's, and none of them have a VR device. I guess VR is not that big over here.

[OB1Biker]

Its sold out indeed I wish I could get one. Funny all your disagrees and all the trolls pissing on the PSVR here while in other post they completely ignore it and pretend there s nothing Playstation releasing in the holiday.

[Bluemaster77]

I live in Chicago you can pretty much find them anywhere here

[Immorals]

I've never had an issue finding stock in Southampton, the only issue was finding a demo where they don't charge..

[Angeljuice]

Wow you're a scummer (small world), I'm in Winchester (but from Portsmouth originally as you can probably tell from the greeting).

[Brisco]

Germany and the Netherlands they are collecting dust in stores.

[xDealtwithIt]

Here's the thing, you have the PS4 pro at 400 dollars, then you have the PSVR at 500 dollars, which includes the camera and I am sure most would want that since the camera wasn't bundled in the original PS4 to cut the cost at launch.

Not mention the Move controllers and you have a package that is way more expensive then the much more attactive Pro system.

Also add that there isn't any killer must have games for the PSVR. No Uncharted, no Killzone, no God of War. Just a lot of what it looks like tech demos that you should only play 15 to 20 minutes at a time.

So in a sense Sony did fragment their user base and now even more.

[UCForce]

PSVR is 399$. Not 499$. Way back then, I disagreed about 2.6 million units from Database. That's not gonna happen. Even I remember Sony expected PSVR would sell about a hundred thousand units, not a million units.

Edit : @Number_9 Here the links : https://www.google.com.vn/a...

[Number_9]

Got links?

[Barricade]

http://www.roadtovr.com/son...

“We know from the data we have from pre-orders that the interest we have is significant,” Ryan said during a TV interview, further saying that PlayStation VR sales will be in the “many hundreds of thousands” as the headset rolls out. “We think to be able to offer PlayStation VR… [at $399 dollars] it’s extremely affordable and we think the takeup is going to be massive,” he said.

[Number_9]

According to the link you provided: "SCEE president Jim Ryan said interest in the headset is “significant” and going by pre-order data, sales at LAUNCH could be “MANY hundredS of thousands”.

So sales at LAUNCH not the year we're expected to be in the multiple hundreds of thousands not the 100 thousand you keep going on about.

[k2d]

xSherrySpinBoi

Sherrypicking numberspinning fanboy.

You're welcome to use it.

@xDealwithit

[Barricade]

@Number_9

That link also details the only statement someone affiliated with Sony made about sales predictions. Not once has Sony stated the PSVR would ship millions.

People who thought this thing was going to sell millions in that timeframe are as delusional as the people who say the PSVR isn't a succes.

Btw, if you really want to quote articles, put something between the quotes that was actually written in the article.

"SCEE president Jim Ryan said interest in the headset is “significant” and going by pre-order data, sales at LAUNCH could be “MANY hundredS of thousands"

This sentence isn't even found in the article I linked. So put LAUNCH in capitals as much as you want, that's not what was written.
I'll give you an example on how to quote using the source article for the link I provided:

"Sony is expecting its PlayStation VR (virtual reality) headset to sell "hundreds of thousands" of units AFTER its launch Thursday and the company is ramping up production capacity to deal with the expected demand, the European president of the electronic giant's gaming division told CNBC."

source: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10...

[Number_9]

Barricade, you are embarrassing yourself. That quote is from the link UCForce directed at me. I was replying to HIM, not you. I didn't even bother reading your comment or link because my conversation was with UCForce. Why you decided to insert yourself as the OP is beyond me.

[Number_9]

Just by the way Barricade, if you had bothered to go straight to the source of YOUR link you might have seen this:

"We know from the data we have from pre-orders that the interest we have is significant," Ryan said in a TV interview, adding that AT LAUNCH, sales will be in the "many hundreds of thousands".

That is a direct quote from the original interview/article that YOUR link is sourced from. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10...
Now tell me again how I misquoted... Good day sir.

[Team_Litt]

Damn. Barricade you got shut down hard.

[Aenea]

Nah, I only had to spend €399 on PSVR since I already had the camera and Move controllers. The Pro only cost me €199 because I traded in my old PS4...

Also this 2.6 million wasn't an estimate made by Sony, was done by this data firm (in March!) that now has changed their own estimate. Nothing to do with what Sony expected it to sell. Heck considering it's sold out in many, many places I think it's selling way better than Sony expected....

Things aren't as bad as some people (want to) think it is.

[MasterCornholio]

I guess what this is saying is that if there wasn't any supply constraints Sony would be able to sell over 2 million PSVR headsets. That's what this is telling me.

If true then Sony really needs to step up production.

[SpaceRanger]

This is in reply to your recent comment in the above thread (under my comment).

@DealwithIt

If you're that annoyed about "excuses" and so interested in PSVR sales (why else would you be in this thread) then you should also put your trolling efforts towards MS' low yearly sales excuses chalkboard...

http://s4.postimg.org/91ckr...

It's out of date because there was no room left.

[xDealtwithIt]

You know how I can tell when I'm right, it's when I get replies back that automatically start talking about MS and Xbox sales.

It's the go to salt on the shelf. And I'm not annoyed, I think it's hilarious to see you guys scramble your defense.

And I'm not concerned about Xbox sales because, "MS didn't supply enough Xbox One S", "They were all sold out", "the demand was too much for retailers", I'm sure there's more i can nab from this very thread for future use.

You may have a chalkboard but you sony fans have the Torah of excuses to let Sony off the hook.

[Automatic79]

@DealtwithIt

You are right on every point you make. The fact that sony has three products out at same time ranging from 300 to 499 and one of them you have to spend another $400 to five hundred to enjoy VR, is not a good move. It's not worth reasoning with some of the Fan boys on this site, even if the evidence is in there face, they will sit there and damage control, cherry pic points for the sake of not accepting the product is niche and not as mainstream as expected.

Heck they even make excuses as to why PS4 has not had a decent exclusive to play since Uncharted 4. I am sure you heard it, we get games all year, we dont need games during holidays, we have VR with plenty of games. Meanwhile how do you get games all year when you have not had a decent game since Uncharted 4(6 mos) and your best hope for a game is a game in 10 year development, non hyped game, boy with dragon, or a tech demos that last twenty minutes to an hour. Some of the fanboys have lost there minds.

If Xbox takes two months off with no games they automatically pull out the pitchforks and knives.

Don't waste your breath we are going to hear excuses for years.

[Death]

They are in a class all their own...

[pompombrum]

Is this because of lack of supply or low demand though? In the UK it's all sold out which as far as I'm aware, will remain that way until the new year. Can't sell units unless they are available to sell.

[UCForce]

More importantly, I expected a hundred thousand PSVRs. So this is more accurate. Even Sony said that they expected about a hundred thousand units.

[Number_9]

No they did not.

[DashArrivals]

stop talking crap please

[MasterCornholio]

Well Sony did predict sales in the hundreds of thousands.

https://www.google.com.vn/a...

"Speaking with CNBC, SCEE president Jim Ryan said interest in the headset is “significant” and going by pre-order data, sales at launch could be “many hundreds of thousands”. "

Credit goes to UCforce for the link.

[paddy95]

Traded mine in. The tech is not there yet.

[moegooner88]

We can see your comment history. Try harder.

@kenmid, What are you on about ? Learn to read.

[kenmid]

i just look at his comment history and look likes he clearly has a ps4. Just because he don't like the product doesn't mean he's trolling.

[Movefasta1993]

and we can see yours slave.
@Land i never troll

[LandCruiser]

@movefasta

And we can see yours, Bot.

[ShowanW]

im actually thinking about returning my PS4Pro back to Best Buy.

being that PS4Pro launched in November, Best Buy's return policy allows me til Jan. 3, 2017 to return it..

#ThatElitePlusTho

[Stogz]

From your comment history it's obvious you're an Xbox fanboy, so no one here is gonna take you seriously. Grow up...

[ShowanW]

@stogz @skillz

I may not like Sony... but i love games..

Dont believe i got one..

Hit me up on PSN: showeezee
Go on... do it now.. ill run to the man cave and turn it on.. we can even chat it up...

edit: an xbot who bought every PlayStation ever made.. how can that be... and yes i am an Xbot.. but i still buy PlayStation

[Skillz1215]

you have to have it first to trade it in

[ShowanW]

@Skillz1215

I am an Xbot... not gonna deny it..
But i have owned every PlayStation ever made..

Hit me up on psn: showeezee

[Jayszen]

I doubt Sony ever projected selling over 2 m PSVRs as the company probably could not manufacture more than half that amount in the first place. From my recollection, Sony had a modest target for the end-of-year. A million would be tremendous as this would mean that all manufactured units are sold. In any case, by any standard, the PSVR launch has been a success. Sony now has to build on this with fuller gaming experiences on VR. Resident Evil 7, Ace Combat 7 and GT Sport are a step in the right direction.

[lnfiniteLoop]

it'll be another Sony Vita, PSP, and PlaystationTV style product they'll drop supporting it as soon as they can...

[kraenk12]

It's sold out almost everywhere.

[Aenea]

It is selling better than Sony estimated....

The 2.6 million estimate was done by SuperData in March this year, they now changed that estimate themselves.

This has nothing to do whatsoever with bad sales but more to do with some firm making a bad estimate.

[BlackTar187]

Hilarious the fangirls can't see that this was not a sony prediction and if sony had made it they would be posting it all over the board as proof. Keep it up fangirls it's currently like 7 xbox boys to 3 Ps people in this article. LOL just the other day i think it was septic or someone talking about how much worse it is in article like this for MS products yet here they are litterly every single one of the know n Xbox fanboys all in one article ROFL

you guys are too obvious that you're paid PR people

[DashArrivals]

It's sold out in many places mate. Stop trolling. VR is just starting up, not dying down. You're a fool, but I suspect you don't even believe what you're saying, me thinks you be just a trolling doggo :-D

[--bienio--]

Hahaha what's a shame for below Ps4 owners.

[Aenea]

Ehm?

1) the 2.6 million estimate was done in March by SuperData, they now changed it
2) it's selling better than Sony's own estimates
3) I find it weird that you find amusement in the idea of a device selling badly that you don't like (even tho it actually is selling rather well, maybe it's time for me to laugh!)

[Angeljuice]

@bienio

"Hahaha what's a shame for below Ps4 owners."

I don't know, what is a shame for below PS4 owners? (I'm assuming you're setting up a joke, as your statement makes no sense).
I don't know any "below PS4 owners" unless of course by that you mean Xbox One owners.

[Germany7]

It doesn't concern you, pc beggar.
Now talk about the sales of oculus and vive.

PS: pc beggar.

[--bienio--]

PS: console remastered race.

[UCForce]

Very arrogant person ! "Sigh"

[x_BlackRose]

I don't see how they came up with that number in the first place. Maybe if they released it earlier in the year, but it only came out a month and a half ago. I want PSVR to succeed, but they shouldn't expect any more than a million sold before Jan 1st. Keep it realistic

[Aenea]

Sony didn't make the estimate! SuperData did in March, now they have to change that estimate since they were wrong.

It's selling way better than Sony expected it to...

[BlackTar187]

Hillarious that we're getting a estimate change article by some 3rd party guesser. I wonder who submitted and approved hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Hedstrom]

Isnt sold out? If they vänt producera more they cant sell more.

[kraenk12]

Sony can't keep up with demand., at least outside the US. Way too early to call doomsday. I'm sure we will hear something official on Friday at PSX.

[sadsatan]

i'd get psvr if the games resembled ps4 graphics, until then, no sale

[DashArrivals]

omg, you really don't get it... obviously you've never tried it. I'm telling you... watching VR gameplay on a 2D screen makes it look terrible. Terrible graphics and looks kind of boring, but when you actually have the headset on things are seriously different on every level. Only people with Vive, Oculus and PSVR can understand.

[Sm00thNinja]

Thee keeping up with demand bit is definitely not the case.... at least here in LA and San Diego shelves are full

[kraenk12]

There is a whole world outside the US and in Europe as well as Japan it's sold out everywhere and won't be restocked before after Christmas/early next year. They should relocate some of those available in your area to those who are desperately waiting to get their hands on one.

[Sm00thNinja]

I mean I get that I want it to do well, but it's evident that VR isn't going to blow any numbers out the water. It's still too expensive and the average consumer may not have the camera. Which would push the price to over 500 dollars.

[BlackTar187]

o look Smoothninja in another article trolling hmmmm

You want to see sales #'s again SmoothNinja so you can buy one?

Such a clown

[Sm00thNinja]

Says the guy who probably haa half the Playstation gear that I do and half the games. Just because I don't worship the ground Mark cerny walks on doesn't mean I don't love Playstation. Love the immediate flaming instead of arguing like an intelligent being. GOOD ON YA

[Sm00thNinja]

Why would I even bother looking at your comment history you're an obvious Playstation Homer. Do you even community bro?

[BigGamersSmallTalk]

VR is a gimmick, like motion controls, like 3-D gaming was. At the end of the day people want to chill and game with a controller. How is this a surprise? The real surprise was the high prediction to begin with. It's a very niche market, and kids basically can't use it. I don't see college kids having the money for it, and people in their 30's with families aren't going to wear stuff on their heads to game.

[kraenk12]

I so wish people calling it a gimmick would have at least tried it. If they did they'd know how ridiculous that sounds.

The opposite is the case btw...VR appeals to older people and non-gamers as well and it's especially fun to play with the whole family or friends.

[lastking95]

We have

[BigGamersSmallTalk]

I've tried it bro, it was cool tech. Just like the Wii and Kinect and 3-D gaming...but it got old fast. I'm back to my regular way of gaming pretty quick. How long did people use the 3-D on the 3DS? I just think it's never going to be the norm or anything more than a afterthought to 99% of gamers.

[PizzaSteve]

I knew it and you guys need to stop with the excuses. $400 for a gimmick with no games worth purchasing. VR seems like a waste of time to me just like 3D was. The average gamer just wants a controller and TV the traditional way to game.

[Aenea]

You knew that SuperData's 2.6 million estimate in March was too much?

[EpicZinger]

Still 750k more than xbox VR. Good job sony for a $400 accessory.

[gamerswin24]

I bet psvr is at or over a million which for Sony is great and a success for psvr. If it is at 1 million already expect Sony to mention it at PSX :).
This reminds me of the Drive club sales thread then Sony announced it sold like 2 million and everyone ate crow lol. The haters that go against Sony continuously eat crow on here.

[RhymeNorReason]

Yes, DC sold 2 million 18 months AFTER release. That's not good sales numbers for a game that launch like sh*t.

[gamerswin24]

I don't know where you get your logic or analysis from but any new IP that sells at least 1 million is generally considered a success no matter the time frame. DC at this point is probably close to 3 million. Sold tons of DLC and is just fine.

Whatever agenda u have is great but plz don't talk frivolously. You don't know what your talking about lol I just checjed DC hit 2 mil 8 months later. I'll attach link so u can eat crow :)

[gamerswin24]

http://m.ign.com/articles/2...

Lol enjoy your day and false information. Boy the lies and twists ppl use to hate in an inanimate object. Let's put it like this Drive Club sold more than the Forza Horizon series yet your saying a new IP that sold more isn't good lol hahaha

[GrimDragon]

Heavier marketing could've helped reach that goal. But rarely even see a commercial on psvr. Not to mention the need for at least one or two must have titles. Not sure how you come up with a number like 2million and make virtually zero effort to get there. If You just rely on your name and think the money will roll in that's a big mistake.

[kraenk12]

You make it sound as if the marketing was the problem...why should they market it even more when there are huge waiting lists everywhere already?! It's possible you guys are lucky in the states but the thing is sold out everywhere else since weeks.

[GrimDragon]

Just because it's sold out doesn't mean it's been marketed well. It just means they didn't make enough. There's a huge number of people that don't know what psvr is or how it works. But whatever just a theory on my part. I don't know business just know games and right now just counting the days until resident evil 7.

[Fishy Fingers]

I assume the early adopters are mostly tech heads who are sold on the HMDs novelty and future potential because based on the software offerings so far I'm surprised it's managed to sell as well as it has.

[Babadook7]

The software has been pretty great imo.

[PS4Gamer1984]

I own both the pro and PSVR.. I must say that I feel like I got ripped ofd buying the pro.. Yes, I have a 4ktv but I literally see no difference whatsoever from the regular PS4

[Aenea]

You have a 4k TV and you LITERALLY see no difference with the PS4?

Wow.... is your 4k TV 24" or something?

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@PS4Gamer

Perhaps you are way too far from the TV to even notice it?

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@Rhyme

It changes colours? What are you on about? You might be thinking of HDR, but we're talking about a higher resolution here on a 4k TV.

probably gonna be all different huh when the Scorpio hits?

[PS4Gamer1984]

No, 65 inch. I have Samsung HU8550, the top of the line, 2014 model

[Fishy Fingers]

From what I've seen the difference is far from night and day but you should still see some improvement if only via the downsampling/higher resolution.

Without being rude, perhaps an eye test is in order?

[RhymeNorReason]

It practically just changes the colors, not much else. Stop fanboy crying and thinking Sony are perfect.

[kraenk12]

Lol. Even your old PS4 games should look way better due to the built in upscaler. That said it firstly needs to be true what you're stating. I pretty much doubt it though.

[ShowanW]

@PS4Gamer1984

Though there is a difference its not significant at all {So far}

[1nsomniac]

Of course it will. When are people going to realise that companies lie. The oldest business trick in the book is to tell people that everyone else is going to buy their product. So you won't be normal if you don't buy it. Believe it or not morons accept that logic all the time. Problem is despite what the die hards keep sprouting, VR is still not ready yet for legitimately full scale gaming. In fact it might never be. Porn is the only thing floating VR seriously at the moment it's still a gimmick & an expensive one at that.

The stupid figures Sony released for its projection figures was just that. Stupid. Along with their statements that it's flying off shelves...

[kraenk12]

Why lie?! It wasn't Sony who assumed those numbers (which sounded unrealistic even if Sony would be able to meet demand). You'd know if you had read the article btw.

[1nsomniac]

Sony themselves possibly Andrew house although I'm not positive tried to make up a story that PSVR was going to be out of stock world wide at launch until possibly after Christmas due to pre order demands then for some reason back tracked saying they would meet demand & would make sure there would be no stock issues.

We all want a great VR experience. However it's always been something very technical to master so it's always behind & no one will ever be happy spending a lot of money on something that in layman terms is behind the curve.

To be fair though you have to go all out with it like Sony has. To get a few iterations before you can build both technologies at an equal speed. We're just not there yet, again. It's definitely the closest we've been though. I just don't agree with the marketing lies that are used as standard business practice 101 through corporations globally.

[aaronaton]

In Germany, they've sold more PSVR's than XboxOnes. They know the score!

[kraenk12]

It's sold out everywhere for weeks and the Pro is hard to get by too.

[RhymeNorReason]

Yes, Germans have "great" taste: PSVR, Hitler, the list goes on...

[Allsystemgamer]

Well if we're going by the past (within 80 years) no one has good taste.

You really don't know how to frame things do you?

[PGRfox]

I'll say it again, as I say a dozen times before. VR is NOT the future of gaming. It's a neat little trick like motion controls that will end up being a fad.

[Aenea]

Don't be daft! VR IS the future of gaming! Only the way it is implemented right now is not how it will be in the future.

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@lastking

Nah, it's not. It's astonishing how many people can't look further into the future than just a few years.

Do you think that in 100 years we still have TVs? That there aren't other ways of displaying things?
Do you think that they might not be able to project images onto your eyes or perhaps even into your brain someday?
Do you think that controllers won't be a thing of the past when you can control things with your brain or simply using your hands maybe even fooling your brain to believe it's holding an actual gun?

Think back 100 years, look how much has changed in that time, think how it can be in 100 years!

TV, couch and controller is not how gaming will always be, it will change...

[lastking95]

Nah tv, seat and controller is the future of gaming

[Skillz1215]

nope

[munchiez]

Since day one i said that VR is a niche product. Is it cool? Absolutely, but it still has a SMALL market that are willing to put out that much money for it when the experiences for it are so marginal.

[Razrye2]

You can't get them anywhere in northern Ireland. Unless you go to cex were they are £430

[kevnb]

I feel like its fading away already, marketing has died down and there doesnt seem to be any must have games ever coming out for it.

[ApexWolf22]

I find the comments section more entertaining than the actual articles. Just about every article incites a fanboy war, regardless of the topic at hand, lmao. Fanboys act as if they make commission, In the end who the F%&£ cares what your playing on ? we're all here for the games anyways.

[Gaming4Life1981]

Ps4 pro and psvr is in stock here in az so its not sold out, i dont know about online. 750k is decent though but next year is the real test for sony and support for this device.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Hate to say I was right but...VR is just another gimmicks like motion controls and 3D. Gamers will always choose a controller couch and TV. That's how games are meant to be played. I played my VR once and put it back in the box. To many wires and not enough space in my living room without rearranging the place. It's a fun little toy but not to be taken seriously at this time.

[Gaming4Life1981]

Agree with everything you said but next year vr devices will go wireless but wires isnt the problem software is. I can already see that they are going to try and add vr to standard games and that will kill vr imo cause vr needs its own dedicated aaa games to succeed. I like vr but the thing is once the wow factor wears off ( it wears off quick) there is nothing to keep you coming back. I dont know if its a gimmick cause its too early to tell but definitely not worth it right now.

[lastking95]

Who ever predicted 2.5 million should never predict anything again lol.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Oculus and Vive would love to be at 750k.

[curtis92]

I think deep down we all kinda knew this is just a newer, shinier 3D TV mini fad. VR is kind of a jack of all trades, master of none type device. There's not really one particular thing you can point at and say "THAT, you really need VR for." because regardless of what it is, there's a deeper, better -albeit less immersive- option available on a console. And for far less money.

[plmkoh]

If there's a less immersive option than VR, does't that make VR the master of immersion? Contradiction lol

[curtis92]

Well I suppose that's true, for a micro game where you can walk around and pick things up and set them back down, I guess you'd say that 'VR is the only real way to enjoy this trash game.' So.. yeah. To enjoy some trash games, VR is the way to go.

But, I mean, that's hardly a selling point.

[plmkoh]

You can continue to believe VR is all just that, but VR is a genre in itself you are simply going down a line of confirmation bias believing that small budget experimental games somehow represents the medium in general. Drive Club VR is open to short sighted ridicule because it is a simple knockup port on a console limited in potential, but then to deny the showcase of tech based on one example is like denying the truth that iRacing wtih Occulus is somehow the same when it is proven to be the best way to play.

I'm also not sure why you are so keen to write-off VR to be applicable only to walking or puzzle simulators but I guess that makes it a convenient argument for your sake eh?.

[BizarroUltraman]

Its because PSVR and the Pro were basically competing with each other.

[2cents]

Only roughly a 70% decrease from the initial sales projections.

Good work SuperData, keep comin with those numbers...

[RhymeNorReason]

Bahahahaha! To all the PS fanboys who said it was selling like hot cakes!!! Well earned!

[CrazedFiend]

I could have told them that. As soon as PS VR launched, their strategy IMMEDIATELY shifted to pushing the PS4 Pro rather than getting more psvr out the door. Psvr barely got any time to breathe before the media was saturated with PS4 Pro. It's the same as two popular games beating up each other's sales . Marketing common sense, I would think.

[Vasto]

I called it.

This is why you wait.

[Rude-ro]

And yet has almost outsold the other two headsets combined...
I do not remember articles talking about the sales of the other two headsets...
Must be a Sony thing.
It is the best selling headset on the market and is helping push the tech.

[Veneno]

I didn't buy one because no stores have demos . Even when the website says they're available. Sony has a problem with demonstrating this product. But it can easily bounce back if people can go easily demo it.

[BlackTar187]

ROFL Xbox fangirls everywhere.

[GTgamer]

How is 750k bad for a product that cost $400- $500 with limited stock when some xbox games cost only $60 and still can't sell that much but OK xbox fans keep talking that nonsense.

[uumm278]

I don't know how it is in the states but over here in Europe as in Japan the thing is sold out everywhere. If anything holds up its sales it's Sony's struggle to keep up with demand. More know about tech you can go here http://www.differencebetwee...

[Derceto]

No way. You mean the over hyped fad peripheral is going to under perform? *gasp* Never saw that coming.

[MRMagoo123]

yeh its not like it's sold out everywhere .....that's def not affecting sales . Are you guys all this thick or just special ones

[ps5fanboy]

The only reason is because of the squeeze upon choice and pocket , for some , I bought a pro because I couldn't be bothered paying inflated price for v.r (due to being sold out at major cheaper outlets), which I will be getting asap , after the coming PS experience , I'm sure the sales will continually stay high.

[Profchaos]

Seriously I haven't been able to buy or try one to date. Stores in Australia are all still out of stock

[Spikeantestor]

There's no "Killer App." When the Wii came out it conflated buying the system with playing Wii Sports. There isn't anything to DO with VR yet. Nothing worth spending 500 bucks on for most.

[Puertorock77]

At $399 it's a tough sell. I also didn't any Black Friday deals for PSVR. If there were any, then the deals were poorly advertised.

[Livecustoms]

LOL, 'VR is the future', it sure is the future but not with playstation or gaming. It will be much more influential in other sectors. Gaming will always be played on Television, sorry fanboys.

[Maximilliam]

Whelp, VR is dead. Guess we'll need to wait another 20 more years for it to git gud.

[rye74]

So much for PSVR sales being 'on track'

[PurpHerbison]

Because now is not the time for VR.

[Apex13]

VR isn't a mainstream thing and its future may not be in gaming pure and simple. Sony fan boys Ket the side down also.

[cyber_daemonx]

Its probably how many was produced to test the market. It would be pointless releasing a couple million if it wasn't popular. 750000 is probably the first allocation of units ordered which suggests its actually pretty much sold out by now vis a vis still unavailable at Amazon or Game. Tbh Sony will probably be really happy with this as psvr has performed better than they expected. The fact psvr has outperformed both rift and vive combined in such a short time is some going.

[mkis007]

Another title misrepresenting the facts. Sony never predicted 2.6 million, a research firm did.

[Mr Marvel]

This was always going to happen.

The loud minority on the internet who wanted VR, combined with videogame websites trying to push the technology over-inflated it's demand. Everyone I speak to in real life couldn't give a crap about VR.

VR is a GIMMICK people. Deal with it!

[TheOtherVitaOwner]

Yikes, I was under the impression PS VR had already sold 2.6 million, I didn't realize that was a sales projection. This latest VR push isn't exactly lighting up sales charts

[mastershredder]

Pfft... SuperData "Research" give me a break. Anyone/company that has a link (hosting) to an article as reasons why they don't suck...does in fact suck.

[Mikey Mike]

They never made 2.6 million units......

[RegorL]

Second wave of games have not been released yet. I predict those being of higher quality.

Edit: December 6th

[frostypants]

Sony should consider actually advertising the damn thing...

[Nivekki]

So much bullshit coming from the Sony Arsekissers in this comment section.

[guyjean]

From 2.6m to 750k?How much can you trust a company that obviously just makes up wild numbers and calls it a prediction.

[Father Murder X]

here come the Sony Defense Force to put some kind of spin on this. VR is just not mainstream and never will be. Remember the big push for 3D a few years ago. It has disappeared. VR will do the same. The excuses will be

1. Some fanboy claiming that they are sold out in his area or his store
2. There is a shortage
3. People were waiting until the Pro came out and will buy the VR unit next.

Honestly who didn't see this coming??? You don't miss an estimate by that big of a margin this was Sony themselves that made it no Pachter or some 3rd party. They knew now many units they were producing and shipping. It will probably be $99.99 by next Christmas with 5 shovelware games included. Not saying that its not a quality product but the demand is just not there. Sony makes damn good products but if no one wants it doesn't matter how well its made.

[ebounce88]

To gimmicky. There are way to many games as it is to play it's hard enough finding time. The whole issue of vr games being more like movies in length and play. Another issue for me is how Sony has been leading this gen yet screw us on plus, raise ps plus price, lack of exclusives compared to ps3 atleast., etc. Then there's the pro and should you even get vr without pro? Should you even get pro with the Scorpio coming out and killing it in specs?plus Microsoft has a gamer friendly approach after trying to screw us with drm. Down vote me all you want vr nerds you know it's true. I'd ask for a refund

[Babadook7]

43% in this day and age isn't killing it with specs. That's not even significant quite frankly.

[Richhard1]

VR is still in its infancy. I'm surprised Sony jumped on board this soon in the VR Evolution. Consumers want the best clear / smooth imagery these days. By 2020 VR will be a very saleable product using much clearer displays utilising faster processors.

[OB1Biker]

Oh man. So many comments here are embarrassing. That company completely screwed up their estimates and it is not Sony. They predicted way too many sold while Sony didn't even build them. Their current prediction estimate PSVR selling about as much as both VR competitor together for the whole year. I don't know why the denial but PSVR is sold out in many countries so you can't buy more in these countries, (in UK for me), simple a that.

[agent4532]

Is too early for VR. Next year, Sony might sell more units.

[joab777]

The software isn't there yet. I still think that mobile gaming is where Sony could offer something special. Create a Vita 2 that runs like a tablet, able to access Google Play, and offers PS Now and VUE, as well as playing full fledged games on the go. Wish they had done it 2 yrs ago.

[game4funz]

Pricey, out of stock, and few games are the reason.
Also VR isn't for everyone. This isn't bad news anyways... It's almost at a million which is pretty good for a peripheral that costs so much.

[CrystalFantasy]

Good. PSVR is the primary reason Sony accelerated the lack of support for PSVITA.

I hope Sony learns from this.

[Kyizen]

People getting a Pro will eventually get a PSVR at least that is Sony's hope.

[TheDreamCorridor]

I just don't think that public is going to be as responsive to VR as companies want them to be.

It's just going to like 3D games were 5 years ago.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

Well that is almost 3 times the amount of sales of ATARI VCS (2600) in 1977. The ATARI VCS sold for almost 800 dollars per console , in today's money .

[Tankbusta40]

Well I mean the fact that there are three billion plus more humans on planet earth than in 77 might have something to do with it

[Tankbusta40]

Won't be a big thing till there are killer games for it. Not two hour tech demos

[Dan_scruggs]

Defense Squad ACTIVATE!

[Pyrofire95]

I love the idea of VR but there are any games i feel are worth buying. As of now there's what 13 games? Most are really tech demos. I think room space is cool but too limiting.

[Segata]

I mean this is the same stuff SEGA pulled. Releasing too much hardware in a close amount of time. CD,32X,SS,SN,Pico. When you become your own competition you hurt yourself.

[Gman32]

Well i check gamestop website and all but one PlayStation VR are soldout only a used PlayStation VR is available at this time i hope i can get one for myself for Xmas or a 4ktv caused i got the PlayStation 4 PRO

[EverydayJoe]

Has anyone else never heard of SuperData.com? I think I will just wait for official numbers from Sony.

[Babadook7]

I haven't heard of them and expect them to be quite wrong with this prediction. Over 1 million by year end is the bare minimum to expect on several accounts.

[Warshade]

It does feel like if you want to make it worth it you need to buy the pro as well. I have very very little desire to get into VR at this time. I need to be able to pause games at a moments notice. (Currently my son is 2 years old) Maybe in 10 years down the road or so. Once they perfect cordless headsets and I have a new place with a room with enough space for that kind of gaming.

MY best friend bought a VIVE day one but it has been used once or twice by him.

[AHall88]

What genius thought a VR unit, that costs as much as a PS4 itself, was going to sell 2.6 million units?

[dunnyone]

It costs more than a PS4. What did they expect for a gimmick?

[MultiConsoleGamer]

I'll wait for the final numbers before I make any judgments. But if it sells anything less than 1 million units in that time frame it's a disaster and it's very unlikely to see future developer support. Sad.

[King_Lothric]

PS r is doing better than oculus and rift