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Sean Murray Continues To Break His Silence On Twitter, Explains Why He Was So Silent

ThisGenGaming says "Sean Murray has continued to break his silence regarding No Man’s Sky with two tweets about the latest update, as well as explaining why he was so silent."

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Irishguy952719d ago (Edited 2719d ago )

Didn't break any silence on the release at all. That was the silence people are bitching about.

cleft52719d ago

The negative reaction to them was so overwhelming and hateful that they "didn't want to talk about anything in it until it was 100% certain". So is this what the community really wants? Personally, I preferred when Hello Games talked openly about what they wanted in their game. But clearly thats no longer going to happen because if they did it would be put in a Reddit post as yet another lie.

Irishguy952719d ago (Edited 2719d ago )

Oh boo hoo, we don't want to talk about lies or discuss the release. This reminds me of the lying **** that was in charge of colonial marines! Tough ****. If you're releasing a product and mess it up there should be something...something at all with regards to it. But nothing. Its even further disrespectful to those who bought the game. Not even an apology or explanation of what happened in the 4 months. What happened? Did the games content get cut? Performance issues? More time needed? Why weren't we told about it?

I'll tell you why cleft, they don't have a moral reason. That is why they stayed quiet and continue to do so.

Also, yeah. 100% certain. They should say whats coming. Not pretend something IS coming when there's a big chance it won't.

Goldby2719d ago

@Irish.

what the hell crawled up your bum and died 15 years ago?

They were quite because they were listening to what the people wanted, they were quiet because they were working on the Foundation update, they were quite because they didn't need to deal with Sh!ts like you who see anythign they do as bad.

If they have no moral reasoning, there wouldn't be the Foundation update.

how about u get 12 of your bestest tea cup party friends together, start working on a game only to have your entire studio flooded and you lose everything, just to start over. then after the world hates you because you couldn't get everything in release date you tell me how you feel.

The irish are happy people. what the hell happened to you in your life.

Irishguy952719d ago (Edited 2719d ago )

No, Irish people are just the same as everyone else. Either you care about being lied to, or you don't. I simply would prefer if situation like like No mans sky false advertising stopped happening. False advertising is illegal for a reason, and lies of omission are certainly still lies.

Haha, we have a similar situation where our current leader, was actually voted out by the public but by default is still the leader...because "democracy". Not that i'm unhappy trump got in because Clinton was...well, she was a liar! I guess people are sick of liars at a state level but for other things its okay..they just had a hard time because they're a small dev...they didn't have the time to respond because they were working on updates. It doesnt' take 20 minutes or so to type a message into on your site or anywhere. Sean is too busy for that.

Seriously. The excuses. As of Sept, Hello games made 72 million. Its a great business model to follow. Maybe we should all make are own businesses and follow that model. Lets lie to each other. Then we'll get houses without plumbing, fake meat, poisonous tea, our cars will come without an exhaust. ****, then we'll all be rich!

Goldby2719d ago

@Irish,

Wheres the proof they made 72million?

How much of that was covering costs for a new studio?
How much of that was returned to people who played the entire game for 30+ hours before demanding a refund.

20 minutes to talk to the public about the game would never just be 20 minutes, specially with the vocal crowd with pitchforks for NMS.

He would start talking and then the mob would demand answers after hes already spoken, thus putting him and the company in the same boat they were already in. the best thing they could do is what they did, shut up, work on the game, and speak to the community when it is all ready to be discussed

-Foxtrot2719d ago

Oh but when that whole "we might have been hacked" happened you couldn't shut him up.

He's a douche bag. He knew for a fine fact he couldn't finish it or the game wouldn't have the long list of features promised but he still made his mouth go to sucker us in

The fact people are supporting these practices is beyond disgusting. If EA, Activision or Ubisoft did that there would be f****** hell on.

uth112719d ago

Exactly. The community made it so they can't talk openly

Imalwaysright2719d ago (Edited 2719d ago )

I'm glad that it was overwhelming. Should be an eye opener to this anti-consumer joke of an industry. Hateful? What? You think that people would congratulate them after they were swindled out of their money? Overwhelming and hateful was the reaction that Hello games deserved.

@ Goldby

Listening? Is that a joke? They knew very well what gamers wanted and what they wanted was what Hello games said would be present in their game.

"how about u get 12 of your bestest tea cup party friends together, start working on a game only to have your entire studio flooded and you lose everything,"

That does NOT excuse their blatant false advertising.

@ uth11

When they were talking openly they were lying to our faces. They did it to themselves.

Goldby2719d ago

@Imalwaysright,

clearly, they didn't know exactly what the gamers wanted or else it wouldn't have been the inventory management some people hate about the game.

It wouldn't have been a game about exploring a planet for resources before heading to the next one, only to leave that star system and repeat those steps.

this isn't a game that was made based on what the gamers wanted, it was a game based on what the minds of Hello Games wanted. after they made that game, they are now listening to what the gamers have thought about and what they feel could be an improvement.

So ya, listening to gamers isn't a joke, or else we would have had another shitty assassin's creed this year

CorndogBurglar2719d ago

No. The community wants honesty.

If they found out that certain features wouldn't make it into the game at launch then they should have come out said that those features may need to wait until a future update.

Its okay to talk about features you want in the game. Its not okay to continue pretending like these features will be present on launch day knowing full well they will not.

Thats the difference.

ExplodingJuice2719d ago

@Goldby

Do not even try to defend Hello Games after the nonsense they pulled with their piece of shit game. Did you purchase No Man's Sky? Did you play that piece of crap Day 1 and realized that almost everything they promised was NOT in the game? It shouldn't take them months of silence to say "Hey we have an update coming up that will pretty much be what we promised the game to be on Day 1".

If you did not buy the game then you have no right to defend them. If you did buy the game then you are a complete idiot for defending them.

Pick your poison.

TKCMuzzer2719d ago

@Irishguy
You can't be open and talk maturely with an audience that would not listen and discuss the issue in an adult way. You only have to read some of the comments in forums and on here to realise you would always get insulted because people can not be rational or calm. I would wait for the shit to die down first, you would then only be left with the real gamers.

S2Killinit2719d ago

There was definitely a VERY successful negative campaign against this Studio.

joab7772718d ago

Exactly. Imagine being in his shoes. He literally went from being the industry's darling to being the devil. Instead, he kept his nose down and went to work.

I stuck with them and didn't mind supporting them because I knew the potential and knew that I would take them time.

Kurdishcurse2718d ago

it was a lie though...its not anyones fault that nms fans are gullible and dilusional. and if you actually think they never lied well then...
"i preffered when hello games openly LIED" ftfy

andibandit2718d ago

@Goldby

" they were quiet because they were working on the Foundation update"

yeah right.

Goldby2718d ago

@ExplodingJuice,

I reviewed it, and gave it a 9/10 because it was almost perfect to what i was expecting to get out of the game.

of course if you actually went through my submissions you would know that.

i wasn't expecting Multiplayer based off of one or 2 mentions during interviews, or the hypothetical talk about what your character looks like.

i was and still is a survival game based in space, which i love.

@andibandit. well if they weren't working on it, it wouldn't have been announced....

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XanderZane2719d ago

Too little to late for me. All he had to do was tell fans that the game isn't complete and they are lowering the price to $20-$25 because of this. The rest of the content will be added in the coming months. If he had did that, I think gamers would have understood and accepted it or cancelled their pre-order and bought the game later.

Angeljuice2718d ago

@Irish

Talk about Lies, you aren't even Irish, you're American of Irish descent. You mislead me and all the people here.

You are a disgrace and should compensate everybody who has read what you've written. Talk about false advertising.

You couldn't get an Irish passport for love nor money.

Rant, Rant, Rant etc.

Irishguy952718d ago (Edited 2718d ago )

Go fuck yourself mate i'm from and in Dublin and yes it is shit here. Why do you think so much much of us are emigrating to your shitty country you skinhead ****.

Don't take it personally.

Kaneki-Ken2716d ago

What about Kojima? Why does he get a pass? Kojima said that he made the trailers himself for MGSV but when you play the game, many of the scenes was never seen in the game which later on, he comments that it was just to advertise the game and those scene where never part of the game to begin with. You can't blame Konami on this since Kojima was the man in charge of setting up the trailer and if he knew that he couldn't use the scene after he and Konami fall down then he shouldn't have included it to begin with. Guess what, no body bat an eye since KOJIMA is the best but people jump on the hate wagon against Konami went PT was cancelled, Kojima got fired and stuff. Kojima lied to the players but people turn a blind eye because he is the creator of MGS and PT. Bruh

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ObviousGoldfish2719d ago

I sold my ps4 after he ruined my childhood

Hoffmann2719d ago

Same here. Am not sure that I can ever trust anyone again. My relationship ended short after the disasterrific launch of No Man's Sky. People said I became an autist after buying the game.

The 10th Rider2719d ago

Autism from buying it? So you were one of the lucky ones?

I unfortunately got the short end of the stick and got AIDS from touching the case.

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one2thr2719d ago

You both bought a $300 console just to play 1, $60 game, and sold it at a loss because it didnt live up to your expectations?

Thats wasteful.

Sm00thNinja2719d ago

@onethr you're kidding right

Hoffmann2719d ago

The tears formed an ocean that is deeper than the seven seas, you could say they formed a No Man's Sea. Full of creatures that can't see each other.

DillyDilly2719d ago (Edited 2719d ago )

To little to late Sean Murray your career is done maybe Donald Trump will hire you as his head of lying staff

Perjoss2719d ago

Just because you want his career to be over doesn't make it so.

They messed up, now they're trying to fix the mess. Not a lot of devs do the second part.

Kurdishcurse2718d ago (Edited 2718d ago )

naaah. his career is over. the man lied on stephen cobert for gods sake. even if the studio doesnt go under in the next few years, their dev team will always ALWAYS be associated with failure and deception. their future games will never EVER see the sales again. their profits will drop exponentially from each game they make. and the scumbags deserve each and every moment of it.

Perjoss2718d ago

@Kurd

sorry, but you're wrong

ClayRules20122719d ago (Edited 2719d ago )

Lol, I'm not gonna lie. I thought this was funny.

To Sean Murray. He lied, there's no denying that. But I respect the fact that him and his small studio are trying to make good on what they can, and fix what the players say needs fixing.

DillyDilly2719d ago

Everything being added in these patches is what they lied about not just multiplayer

hahaha2718d ago

And then Trump would say :"Sean, you are fired!"

IxWoodstockxI2719d ago

I'll rebuy No Mans Sky in a year or two once the game is complete. It should have been an Early Access game for $30.

Kaneki-Ken2719d ago (Edited 2716d ago )

I buy it once they add online and I be able to play with my squad. Edit: (I did my research before the NMS came out, once I discovered there no Online and I drop the preorder. Now, if they add online then my wallet talks) Dislike = Salty people

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No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

darksky2d ago

HG could have stopped after making 3-4 updates and the debt would have been paid to those why are crying about paying full price. However, they have continously provided free updates for the last 6-7 years. No other developer in hostory has ever done this and probably never will.
There are many AAA games that disappointed but the devs normally move on or close the studio rather than fix the game.

-Foxtrot3d ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z3d ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after supporting No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it. They can do it but some people just decide not to.

Blad3runner002d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

People paid for the game at launch and got lied to. Now the game is what it SHOULD have been from the start (what people paid for) and we should be happy they aren't charging EXTRA? Its free because people ALREADY paid for the game at launch.

People PAID for what the game is in its current state (what it should have been at launch), not what it was when it released. Charging people AGAIN would result in even more backlash.

anast2d ago

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

They already charged for the full price game. All of that work is owed because it was already paid for.

JackBNimble2d ago

Fox ... sure HG made a huge mistake, but they have also done more then any development team that I have seen to fix the problem and go way beyond in supporting the game. And every update has been free, so I don't really get why you are holding on to this grudge.

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milohighclub2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Whatever happened at launch is in the past. By your logic they could have supported it for a year got it to the project they promised then stopped but they didn't. They're still supporting it to this they, they've released more content post than pretty much any game I can think off. More than most MMOs. They didn't have to go this far but they have and don't have any plans of stopping. All for free too.
Yeah they had a shit launch and they've apologised, learned and more than made up for it. I was pissed off at them at launch, but not petty enough to keep slandering them 7 years later.
You have much bigger studios releasing half assed games and fixing it later or even worse not even bothering.

anast2d ago

The DLC costs money. But yeah, people are hanging on to this one longer because of their previous reputation.

TheCaptainKuchiki2d ago

And it doesn't change the fact that the game is a boring procedurally generated environment in which your repeat the same actions over and over again with no real purpose. I hate when they say that the game became good.

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thorstein3d ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

Hugodastrevas3d ago

I'd say it's THE definitive comeback story

TheGamingHounds3d ago

Final Fantasy 14 takes that one imho

CrimsonWing692d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yep and the way they actually did it where Bahamut destroyed the original FF14 and the realm was “reborn” seals it as the best way to do something like this, lol.

jwillj2k43d ago

Oh great another story about the cleanest shirt in a bin of dirty laundry.

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Latest No Man’s Sky update adds ship customisation, space station overhaul, and more

Orbital update drops today, also bringing with it engine improvements and UI refresh.

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Zeke6842d ago

The game that keeps on giving 🦾🥳✌️

Christopher42d ago

The support they've given this game only makes me more interested in their next game.

Zeke6841d ago

Agree, curious what they are cooking up for that one?!

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The 10 PSVR 2 Games You Should Own

If you're looking for 'must have' PSVR 2 games then look no further. These are the 10 titles every PSVR 2 owner should have in their library.

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kevco3351d ago

If you're wanting more PSVR 2 support, you should probably buy all of these games.

Speak with your wallet!

Profchaos51d ago

Bit rich to have to buy games you don't want because you want Sony to support the expensive headset they sold us which cost as much as the console it runs on beyond paying third partys to support it.
Seriously in terms of first party we have horizon on day 1 and a gt 7 vr mode.

They seemingly have made little effort to support it beyond paying Capcom to make re games in VR or a second party studio to make firewall which was mismanaged.

I'm a day 1 psvr2 user and the only thing I'm excited for right now is PC support.

I commented recently this bespoke VR game development model we have right now clearly doesn't work

crazyCoconuts51d ago

On the one hand I feel like there's been plenty of smaller non-AAA games to play and occupy me as a supplement to my flat screen gaming.
But I agree that Sony has done nothing to elevate this beyond the niche it's in and into the mainstream where it would be economical to create AAA games for it.

Babadook751d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Most of these games are worth owning for most people; I own all but 2 of them in fact. So I agree with kevco33. I think you're crazy if you downplay this list quite frankly. Sony can't keep funding software if people don't buy any of it, the ball is squarely in OUR court.

Sony has spent a lot on 3rd party stuff this gen like RE.

phoenixwing51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Saving up for the headset is my first hurdle. Let alone buying games I don't want lol

mudakoshaka51d ago

People downvoting you for not having enough finances...what a world we live in, haha

phoenixwing51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

@mudako
They feel affronted at the very thought that I don't plunk down 500 immediately lol I have a little over 900 games in my backlog I've been buying games instead of hardware ever since I got my PC and ps5. I just don't know if vr is really for me honestly. Every time I have a couple hundred allocated to video games it makes more sense to buy a bunch of flat games instead of vr ones

mudakoshaka51d ago

I have 9 out of these 10 games. I try to buy all the VR games I like to support the advancement of VR!

TheEroica50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

I spoke with my wallet after watching the first headset get weak support. Easy pass until Sony earns my money. Feel bad for those who parted with 500 bucks, falling for the hype that Sony was actually gonna support this thing.

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Neonridr51d ago

I own 7 of these titles off the list, lol.

NotoriousWhiz51d ago

I'm trying to decide if it's worth holding onto my psvr 2. I enjoy what it has currently, but it seems unlikely to get anything else. Might be better off just waiting for something with more support if that ever comes.

Profchaos51d ago

As a fellow psvr2 owner the question seemingly comes down to do you own a PC.

I think I'm all in I have a habit to hold onto my systems anyhow I still have my psvr1 to hell I still have my NES.

But while it's still worth something yeah you could sell it and if Sony turns the ship around you should be able to buy another one for less than you soldmit for I feel like we won't see any fix for the headset for the next 2 years rumours show that Sony has no current first party VR games in active development after they closed London studios

The whole psvr2 situation has left me feeling a little burnt on PlayStation as a whole to be honest. The first psvr felt experimental but it was supported far more than this superior headset

MIDGETonSTILTS1751d ago

GT7 surprised me, because I hate racing games, but i poured 100 hours into it way too quickly.

I’m looking forward to the Metro VR game this year, and I hope that WW2 dogfighter game releases eventually.

talocaca51d ago

I have most of them 😅

Waiting for a sale on Synapse and Arizona Sunshine 2.....also Metro coming this year looks great.

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