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Metal Gear Solid 4 Afterthoughts With Ryan Payton

In one of his final interviews as part of Kojima Productions, Payton looks back at MGS4.

1UP writes:

"Metal Gear Solid 4 has been out for several months now, and a lot has happened in that time. PlayStation 3 sales were bumped up for a while, the game has gone cheap in some Japanese stores, and one of the game's most outspoken producers, Ryan Payton, has left Kojima Productions. Before Payton left, though, we were able to nab the following afterthoughts interview about his experience working on MGS4 for EGM.

Check out the full interview below the cut for word on how Payton was threatened by some especially hardcore fans, what parts of MGS4 required the most tweaking, and how satisfied he is with the project as a whole. Just be careful if you haven't taken the time to finish MGS4 yet, because spoiler abound."

InfiniteUnfloppery5723d ago

Thank you Kojima Productions for the AAAA Blockbuster Playstation 3 Exclusive

FAQS5723d ago

Q:
A: I like your avatar!

InfiniteUnfloppery5723d ago

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Poor Xbots,missing out on the Greatest Console Title of the past 10 Years.

FAQS5723d ago

Q:
A: In my oppinnion, they lost the Greatest Game Ever!

Silogon5723d ago

Useless and unwarranted journalism at its finest -- "Ps3 sales were bumped up for awhile and MGS4 has been in the bargain bins in Japan"

Did anyone need to know those bits of information? No. In the context of what this interview was about this offered up nothing more than filler and little more than a bias slant pot shot.

Veronica Belmont5723d ago

Im listening to the soundtrack of MGS right now, the whole experience of the metal gear series is one ill never forget, everything about it is breath taking, the whole story and atmosphere in the game feels so real.

The Best Is Yet To Come by Rika Muranaka ---Amazing!

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi5723d ago

Your Breath taking!;)

I still and always will have Fond memories of MGS1 on PS1;)

rockleex5722d ago (Edited 5721d ago )

what kind of "endeavors" Ken Kuturagi is pursuing after having left Sony. ^_^

Anyways Ryan Payton, be kind and leak us some info on MGS4:Substitution(or whatever subtitle they come up with).

I want the game to include/lack thereof installation. If Uncharted was able to achieve that graphical prowess without the need for installations, MGS4 definitely could do the same. At the very least minimize it to a 5GB installation that only has to be performed once.

They should also include theater mode like MGS3:Subsistence. Multiple endings or scenarios would be awesome. Jokes are VERY welcome.

What happened to Snake VS Monkey? They should rename it "Snake Escape". This time around, Snake will have to utilize the Metal Gear Mk3 and various other methods to capture the monkeys. Co-op play would be greatly appreciated.

Ability to play as apes in single player and multiplayer would be awesome. Hell, why don't Kojima Productions just release all major MGS characters?

Speaking of multiplayer, they should definitely add splitscreen online/offline to MGO with ability to add bots.

Teaser/demo for ZOE3 would be awesome and guarantee a must buy... that is if MGS4:Sub-w/e comes out before ZOE3.

There's just so much Kojima Productions can do for the second version of MGS4. ^_^

rockleex5721d ago (Edited 5721d ago )

*****SPOILERS!!!!!!!*****

They need to release an alternate ending. An ending that doesn't have to explain every loose knot for the hell of tying loose knots. I personally never had any problems with MGS1, MGS2, or MGS3's unanswered questions. I was just craving for more masterful storytelling from Kojima.

MGS4 started with an awesome story, the best premise of any MGS games. Yet it failed to end with a bang like all other MGS. I was expecting a very satisfying ending like previous MGS' but all I got was a very well explained ending... -_-"

Of course, MGS4 was awesome in every aspect. The graphics, controls, gameplay, audio, story, cutscenes, etc were all awesome. The climax was better than any other MGS climax. In fact, the climax kept on going and reaching an even HIGHER point of climax.

The Microwave, Raiden vs submarine while reminiscing first encounter with Rose, Metal Gear vs Metal Gear, when Liquid gained control of SOP, etc etc.

I love it all. But the ending was just not up to par with past MGS endings... by a mile. There was no grand scheme of things. Everything had a very simple explanation. It just felt like everything that ever happened in the history of MGS meant almost nothing... purely because of the explanations given, and mainly the way the explanations were presented.

Kojima's a genius, I'm surprised he couldn't find a better way to present the explanations like in past MGS'.

If I had to rank MGS games, it would be:

1. MGS3, because everything about Big Bosses story is so damn awesome, and especially because the ending song 'Star Sailor - Way to Fall' perfectly fits his story. Why MGS3 wasn't as successful as MGS1/MGS2/MGS4 is just pure madness.
2. MGS1, for so much innovation, addictiveness, awesome storyline that isn't too convoluted.
3. MGS2, great story but too convoluted, gameplay/bosses not much to go crazy for, gets confusing near the end but AWESOME if you can understand.
4. MGS4 is last... but would be first if you simply take out the ending, or provide a better ending. >_<

Kojima... Snake has 6 months left to live, 3 as of now. Give him the proper send off he deserves!!! December 12th has been marked... I better receive an early Christmas present when I check my PS3 that morning. <_<

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro66d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7266d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_66d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga66d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2366d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200066d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin66d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole66d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix66d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198966d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198966d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons377d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde377d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden376d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop376d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu376d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop376d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17376d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop376d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136376d ago (Edited 376d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984376d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster376d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989377d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon377d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

RNTody377d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon376d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

RNTody376d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon376d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden376d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt376d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989376d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90377d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden376d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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