The Order: 1886's Developers Reflect On Failings And Potential Future For The Series

In statements given to Game Informer, the creative director of The Order: 1886 reveals that he is confident that the game will lead to a saga with future titles.

[Nyxus]

A sequel would be great. I really think the universe they created has a lot of potential, and I also think The Order 1886 wasn't nearly as bad as it was made out to be (personally I really enjoyed it).

[Nitrowolf2]

there needs to be more for this series, it's has a huge potential IMO to be the next Uncharted style game. All it needs is a lot more gameplay, and for the live of God it doesn't need to go open world.
I really think they hit the gameplay on the head, along with everything elae. It just had to little segments for gameplay
Remember, the 1st Uncharted wasn't that huge of title until 2 came around.

[nveenio]

This game was a classic case of something that could be considerably improved in a sequel, like what happened between Uncharted 1 & 2. When they recently announced they're doing a VR game, however, I pretty much gave up on them. It's almost like they stuck their tails between their legs and ran away from "big" development. And all because of a bad turn with internet trolls.

[Blu3_Berry]

I personally enjoyed it as well and it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone said it was. It got far to more flack then deserved. Like you said the universe has lots of potential. But with the amount of hate they (Sony and the developers) could simply look at it like "oh they absolutely hated the game, I guess we should move onto another IP and drop this one" so like it wouldn't surprise me if they actually did respond that way. But I am glad this is still up in the air. In terms of a sequel I don't think we will get another one until the end of the playstation 4 cycle if I'm honest. There must've been a shitstorm behind doors that we don't know about with Sony and the developers.

[Lukejrl]

How it ended pissed me off. Piss me right off. otherwise it was fun

[ziggurcat]

@luke:

"How it ended pissed me off..."

its ending was clearly a set-up for the next game, I think they even said before the game launched that they intended it to be a triology. understanding that, there should be no reason to be upset with the ending. I also think that people who complained about the lack of explanation of some of the background story also missed the point of the game being the first part of a series. no series of any movie or TV show reveals everything in the first episode/installment - there'd be no point in continuing the series if they showed all of their cards right away.

[The 10th Rider]

@ziggurcat,

There's other reasons than the story that people could be upset at the ending. Lukejrl may have simply been upset that the final boss was basically a quicktime event, and a repeat of the earlier werewolf fight. Whether anyone likes the game or not, there's no denying that was a pretty lame boss to end with.

[rainslacker]

I felt the game itself was pretty good. It just felt unfinished in many parts. Game play was solid though, if not lacking in variety.

The story and setting/characters/etc all should continue on. It would be a shame to have such a promising world abandoned due to the hate it got initially.

[coolbeans]

@ziggurcat

"its ending was clearly a set-up for the next game, I think they even said before the game launched that they intended it to be a triology. understanding that, there should be no reason to be upset with the ending."

That's a godawful excuse to the point of corporate apologia. Having a trilogy in mind doesn't mean you get to use your first game purely as a means establishing everything w/out any sense of finality. Fellowship of the Ring, A New Hope, etc. These were planned out as trilogies too yet the first entries were structured in a way to feel complete while leaving audiences hopeful for the future. If you look at all the plot threads left unanswered by the end of The Order, there's a clear disparity between those good examples I previously mentioned and The Order.

[kneon]

@coolbeans

The Lord of the Rings was intended to be published as one volume, it was the publisher that decided to split it up.

[Red_Renegade]

there was finality, coolbeans. galahad's role with the order was over. but he story wasn't done. that's what the ending set up.

well, you weren't supposed to know all that at the end. that's part of what makes it ready for a sequel. just cuz you wanted all that stuff doesn't mean it should be there.

[coolbeans]

@kneon

Alright. Still applicable to the Original Star Wars Trilogy and that central point of my first response still stands. You can't hand-wave a plethora of unanswered stuff away with "just pony up another $60 to get the full story." That's egregious.

@Red_Renegade

Sure, he's out of The Order. That's A part of the story. What about everything else? Lady Igraine, The Rebels, The Order, or the main antagonist of this story nowhere to be found during the past hour? There are many key elements still up in the air by the end to make it feel incomplete.

[Kaneki-Ken]

I be happier, if they add multiplayer for the sequel.

[jwillj2k4]

The story was fantastic, the werewolf fighting and aggressive letterboxing was bad but that was it. Definitely deserves a sequel.

[one2thr]

To be fair, the black bars in The Order that people thought were a cheap method used to increase visual fidelity even though the R@D has said they're actual active pixels used as an cinematic aesthetic, was true and a lot of people ate crow once Uncharted 4 has proven their (R@D) claim.

Even though it was a great looking game, Uncharted 4 ended up surpassing it in action, much larger play areas, environmental interactions, etc. while keeping a solid frame rate of 30fps at 1080p.

[nucky64]

I liked the order a lot. story has me hooked - I'm definitely wanting a sequel.

[ThunderPulse]

Awesome game for the $10 I paid.

[gammaray13]

it was one of the best games i have ever played

[The 10th Rider]

It's got a 63 on metacritic, which really isn't that bad. Generally, anything over a 6 is playable and enjoyable, especially if it's your style of game. No Man's Sky, Destiny, and more recently Mafia 3 and ReCore similarly failed to live up to the expectations set up for them and get criticized quite a bit, despite all being decent or good games. People have a tendency these days to think anything below a 7 is unplayable. Really this gen there haven't been many games to make it above the mid-eighties, so something in the mid-sixties really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

[Nyxus]

That's true but aside from Metacritic people were also calling it 'terrible', 'awful' and things like that. But I know on the internet you're supposed to talk in hyperboles.

[The 10th Rider]

Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Mafia 3 and ReCore are getting a lot of hate, as was No Man's Sky and Destiny (I guess you could even add Star Fox Zero in there, Mad Max as well.) Games are getting hyped like crazy and if a game isn't a 9/10 people consider it a flop.

[rainslacker]

The game is 100% playable. In fact, it was about as bug free as you'll ever see a game nowadays. Enjoyable is subjective, but if one is into 3rd pershon shooters, then it was spot on in that department. It lacked some variety throughout, and the boss fights were pretty lame, but beyond that, the game play and story are more than 63. I think it got down rated due to it's length, and the fact that many parts seemed unfinished. What was there, outside the werewolf fights, was easily in the 75-85 range.

[BlackOni]

That therein lies my issue with metacritic, or review scores in general. They're crippling the industry and steering people away from otherwise pleasant gaming experiences. If we used words to sum up our feelings rather than numbers, I think we'd see a shift in how, and what games people play.

[kraenk12]

It was a good game with a great story...the problem was it was just half a game....the story was just getting started. Can't wait for more from Sir Galahad and his pals.

[UCForce]

I'm glad.

[KingKelloggTheWH]

Same, that would be awesome!

[S2Killinit]

Yes I would buy the sequel in a heart beat. Its one of my favorite games of the generation. I enjoyed it.

[Majin-vegeta]

Yes the ending leavea so much for a sequel

[Rimeskeem]

I actually thoroughly enjoyed my playthrough. The story there was great but there wasn't enough. Give me a Uncharted 4 length story with some replayability and you have a great game.

[game4funz]

Uncharted 2

[coolbeans]

That's to be expected when you don't get a proper ending though.

[italiangamer]

I'm sure Sony will make a sequel to The Order, we wont see it soon but I'm confident that they will try again because this IP is seriously amazing. Oh and by the way some time ago, leaked screenshots from a PS4 exclusive in development were revealed showing a western style location and they were drawn in a similar way as the original The Order: 1886 artworks...seriousy hope they are from the sequel :D

[Majin-vegeta]

Links links?

[ItsJustDante]

http://www.allgamesdelta.ne...

[ninsigma]

Those are some nice concept arts!

[rainslacker]

Nice find. I could see a lot of similarities in the art style...namely the little details to the materials that R@D was so keen on probably spending too much time with.

[ninsigma]

I hope there's more. Enjoyed the first and want to see where the story goes. It was well written.

[TheLordOfStuff]

For all the hate the first one got I thought it was good, overly simple but good solid mechanics and a really awesome world, I really do hope for a sequel

[tulholdren]

I agree I liked the first one too. Would love to see the story unfold.

[Elda]

I would love a sequel with more monsters in the game & freshen/tweak up the gameplay including a few more hours longer.

[Melankolis]

The word "confident" makes me curious...if it's true then i think something is happening...right now.

[rainslacker]

Generally devs don't talk with GI about things unless they know something is coming. GI is kind of one of those sites/mags which builds hype early for the publishers, so it may well be possible we see an Order sequal in the future.

However, I thought R@D was working on a multi-plat title so wonder if they're involved in the sequel.

[Sparta07]

PLEASE do it!!!! Day one for me. The story was awesome, the game needs to be longer the game play was good just cut the qte.

[XXanderXX]

Dude you need to move on since you don't own the IP and have no control of what happens next .

[rainslacker]

Wait....in another article, you were saying that Remedy could come back anytime because MS owns the QB IP.

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

Here you say they need to move on because they have no control and don't own the IP? Who's to say R@D hasn't moved on, last we heard they were working on a multi-plat title.

So, is it OK if Sony revisits it? Would it sadden you that The Order gets revisited by Sony, when QB will likely never see the light of day again?

[XXanderXX]

Big difference MS/Xbox didn't throw Remedy under the bus like sony did RAD .

Yes I said that , cause after the crap he was given at sony he should move on and concentrate on what his studio is doing . sony can roll over and die for all I care , as for QB weather MS revisits the IP or not that's up to them . My concern as a consumer of their platform is that they own or buy all IP they invest in so to grow the game library of the platform so at any given time the IP can be revisited for a sequel , relaunch or reboot .

[rainslacker]

How did Sony throw R@D under a bus? They released the game, it did decent in sales, and as of right now, we don't know what Remedy is during other than saying they're working on a MP game. Remedy said they were willing to work with Sony again in the future. Also, as of right now, we have no idea what MS is doing with Remedy. For all we know, MS isn't going to do anything else with them.

[Red_Renegade]

you need to move on. or back to xbox articles.

[XXanderXX]

I will go to whatever article I please , have a nice day

[generic-user-name]

Still don't understand the hate this game got, I was engrossed all the way through. Sequel would be a day 1 buy.

[Tross]

I really enjoyed The Order. I just kind of feel it's a tad too short and ended abruptly. Not to mention, the story doesn't quite feel complete yet, so I do hope we get a sequel.

[The_Sage]

I hope it gets a sequel. I loved the game. It was great, despite what the Xbox fanboys were saying.

[amnalehu]

they just need to expand on what they started. Deeper and branching story, open the world up, add MP. The game played great, looked great and had a decent story. We just needed more of it.

[ziggurcat]

the game doesn't need MP. everything else, I agree.

[GoodOldWrastling14]

If you haven't played it, please do yourself a favor and don't open your mouth and regurgitate bullshit you've heard about it. Go and buy it for like ten bucks and actually play it. It's a really good game, but it is short and that's really the only problem with it. Otherwise the story was good and the characters were there, the graphics were awesome and the combat was decent.

[one2thr]

^This, I got it at $60, I could have sold it.

But the story/lore is what made me keep it.

[amnalehu]

Yeah I agree. I loved the weapons. I just wish they had more of them. The game looked incredible. They need to teach those anti aliasing skills to some other devs.

[LoveSpuds]

Great characters, fab voice acting, superb universe and great story made for a really solid game, I loved it personally.

While I think the gameplay was a little plain, it certainly wasn't bad and definately wasn't bad enough to warrant the hate this game got. If a sequel comes along I will be delighted.

[Tankbusta40]

I didn't buy the Order at launch and picked it up on a flash sale for like $7.99 so I didn't hate it. If I payed full price day one, I would have hated it. They need to expand the world, make it less linear, and the controls less clunky. I don't mind cut scenes so you don't have to eliminate them, just add more game play and take out the stupid QTE's that NOBODY IN GAMING LIKES!

[DanteVFenris666]

Speak for yourself I love QTE especially how gow does it

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Hell yes! I love The Order!

[DanteVFenris666]

Honestly if the game was this short, cinematic, but a first person vr experience it would be entirely okay for the price.

[Master-H]

I played it recently and found it to be a lot better than what the vocal minority would have you believe. Only real fault it has is that it's short for a full priced game at launch. Would give it 7-7.5/10 easily.

[ziggurcat]

Good, I actually want there to be a sequel - I enjoyed the game, and this'll give them an opportunity to resolve any of the issues people had.

[jackwei22]

Hopefully we will see the vampires and the introduction of multiplayer this time too.

[Kallisti]

A sequel with vampires please & The Order: 1886 arguably had better graphics than Uncharted 4. Imagine what a sequel running on the PS4 Pro could look like.

[conanlifts]

It was a fun game as far as i was concerned, the only issue was it was way too short. The ending should have been the half way mark.

[BABY-JEDI]

The Order really should have some form of 2-4 Player CO-OP & more open (replayable) gameplay. investigative collectibles etc. Fantastic theme 😉

[Rude-ro]

I am hoping for a ps4pro patch to play again, but yes, make a sequel please.

[korea09]

Personally I think this game has a lot of potential just tone down on the cutscenes and QTEs

[game4funz]

What failings? The game is fine and interesting albeit short.
The world they created is super interesting. Sony should definitely get the sequel or another iteration of this world in the pipeline.

Enough meta critic adoration bs.

This game along with many other games this gen have received too much undeserved criticism.
Games like the order, quantum break, ryse, recore all deserve another shot and where shot down by the media which did in fact shamefully affect the sales.

[guyjean]

Absolutely loved the game. the negative coverage of the game was total bs. hope they make more of the series.

[glennhkboy]

I think the next entry should be in the format of interactive adventure, like the ones done by Telltale Games.

[Nu]

They should copy Gears of War multiplayer for the sequel

[Rhezin]

I'd definitely buy a sequel to this game. Loved every minute of it.

[Hardiman]

I enjoyed it and would welcome a sequel.

[KingofGambling]

It would be great if Sony green lit one more to see if the fans are there. Ready At Dawn are talent developers and they have so many stories and outcomes for The Order universe. Just give them a chance would be great.

[jokerisalive]

LOVE this game and it left me wanting a sequel so much. I hope we get one and I also hope it has MP because I think that would definitely extend the value of the game overall once you have beaten the campaign. I would like to see just how good it could look on the PRO also.

[masterfox]

I hope the Order 1886 generated enough income so they can continue with a sequel, they now have the experience to create a more complete game.