Here's why we don't have a Driveclub VR review: it made everyone sick

You may have noticed, looking over the breadth of PlayStation VR coverage that we have, that we don't have a review for one of the headset's launch titles, Driveclub VR. Well, there's a reason for that, and that reason starts with "motion," ends with "sickness," and in the middle there's a "BLLLFRRRPPHH!!!"

Simply put, we just couldn't find anyone who could handle playing the game long enough to review it. We tried several victim--er, volunteers, but no luck.

[freshslicepizza]

That's not good, is the frame rate not stable?

[GryestOfBluSkies]

its stable. i played a little bit and felt fine. its another game that varies by person

[Ron_Danger]

Just ignore Moldy. He's been concern trolling every article that paints PSVR in a negative light.

Notice how he's absent from the comment section from this 8/10 scoring review for Drive Club VR.
http://n4g.com/news/1971272...

[C-H-E-F]

I noticed, games that aren't as graphically advanced as others causes slight nausea problems. I wonder if there something with that. However, Driveclub isn't one of these games, but games like LUGE and that Odyssey game made me feel a little weird.

[Kingthrash360]

Lol moldy, I can see the concern on your face...a genuine crooked smile.
As far as vr goes though this has been a well known fact of all vr. It's a hit or miss when it comes to high movement games...certain vr games may or may not get you sick. I say try it out at a best buy or try to tuff it out. Things like getting sick goes away after your body adjusts, it's jus a matter of getting through that part...on some games. If you can't and won't do that then skip it. Of you really want a vr experience then either hope you are one of those people who don't get sick or that can though through it.

[Soapboxhero]

I only played through 1 race which barely constitutes enough playtime to form a full opinion on but I didn't have any issues with motion sickness, only real complaint is some of the graphics looks abnormally flat and objects in the distance were a bit murky. The only game I have played thus far that even hinted at motion sickness was the rollercoaster section of the Until Dawn: Blood rush demo on the demo disc (Yes i realize the whole game is on rails like a roller coaster but there is a segment of it that is particularly more aggressive)

[fr0sty]

These pansies probably get sick on their morning commute to work. I've logged hours in DCVR without even feeling a little sick. The only game I've played that caused even a little discomfort is Here They Lie, because it relies on a wiimote style turning system where you look to the edges of the screen in the direction you want your player to turn, and the game does not use head tracking while you are walking, which disorients you after a while.

[morganfell]

Notice my post here:

http://n4g.com/news/1970621...

and Cupid Viper's remark above mine. It seems he is right. Two friends came over today and among the games they tried was Drive Club VR. I had them both stand at first with the controller. One was fine and he raced without incident. His girlfriend, not so much. So we put her behind the wheel after her stomach calmed and she was fine.

[IanTH]

I'm a person with a pretty decent tolerance for VR and low instances of motion sickness, but this game made me have a headache and was just generally uncomfortable to try and play. I stopped 3/4 of the way through a race because it was just uncomfortable and that made the race hard to do well in and it just wasn't fun for me. A lot of other games so far have been great, but this one definitely got me.

Side note: I was surprised at how much the visuals took a hit on this game. Some games look great, but it feels like the more realistic they try to go the more effects have to go into it and the more they have to sacrifice over more "cartoony" games. It's a general VR problem, not just PSVR, but it makes me think if I want to keep PSVR instead of going for a PC variant that I'd have to pony up for a Pro and that leaves me with a lot of questions. It's a solid device, but for those without PS4s, definitely wait for the Pro to get both - some patience and $100 will make a helluva lot of difference with your experience.

[candystop]

I've had a few games give me motion sickness while others didn't bother me at all on Gear. This is strange but also reminiscent of my first HD TV. I remember getting headaches thinking I would never get use to my tv but overtime my eyes adjusted. I've also heard that saying you were dizzy is contagious like yawning. What i want to see and think would be good are games filmed in our reality. Let us walk through the real world and eliminate cartoon pixel game worlds. Sure add computer graphics and effects but play in reality. I bet that would solve many issue. Back in the day games were done like this on laser disc but the idea has been forgotten I guess.

[Death]

The graphics are disappointing after owning the original since launch. I don't think its enough to detract from the game though. What has my stomach churning is the jitters in the car from the way pov is tracked. You can hold the controller stationary and watch it jump around. I'm not sure why, but your body jumps around in the car as well as the car movement which feels abnormal.

This doesn't happen in all games, so I don't think its a hardware issue.

[SonyWarrior]

the thing i dont like about driveclub vr is how some things are unusually blurry such as the instrument cluster in the cars and sometimes even the tablet thing thats in all the cars i am also thinking that this game might not be 1080p because its just not as clear as other games ive played so far

[babadivad]

I think the issue is that the PSVR lets a little light in the bottom of the headset by design[so you won't be completely blind to the outside world]. The problem is that your eyes are drawn to light. That constant reminder that you aren't actually moving confusiones your brain and makes you sick.

It's something you can probably get used to but I can understand how it can easily make you sick in driving games and the downhill luge game. Basically any game with fast moving scenery.

[MasterCornholio]

I don't believe it's the framerate causing this.

@Todd

Is there a rule that states that everyone has to get sick when playing the game?

[SniperControl]

Been playing it most of today, not one feeling of sickness, my bro tried it earlier, no mention of sickness.

[fr0sty]

It's biased reviewers causing it.

[IamTylerDurden1]

I Don't believe It's that widespread a problem. Now, I love Rigs and i play it now without getting sick, but at first I did feel a very slight dizzy feeling with one of the control options. My brother did as well, but after we got used to it we never felt it again. However, neither of us felt any uncomfortable feeling from Driveclub VR. It's funny how you hear nothing about sickness with certain games like Rigs, but it's all you hear about with DC VR. I honestly think Driveclub is being targeted. Even Playroom VR had more potential dizziness than Driveclub.

[NXSwitch]

Lol the nerve of Sony knee blowers saying they have yet to feel the sickness, what do they all have gods eyes now? Wake up gamers, the game is a S in a can!

[THRASHMOUTH]

I've put in a good 5 hours of it so far. Played about 2-3 hours non-stop and felt completely fine. The reviews flooding n4g are being scored low based on their motion sickness and it's sad... the game, even though it's not good looking, deserves much more credit than what it's being given.

[morganfell]

I stopped noticing the actual resolution and such about 10 seconds into the race.

[Loktai]

Def a game that .. hopefully assuming it takes advantage of it could use the help of ps4 pro... but it looks ok, the smoothness really make up for the kind of muddy graphics for me. I mean the graphics aren't bad bit if you're used to the raw beauty that is driveclub.... it's a major hit . OF course it runs at double the frame rate and dead smooth, so I'm not sure why we would expect anything else. I'll pick it up again when I get a ps4 pro and see how it looks.

Disclaimer : I don't own this game my friend has it and the psvr, but I did play half an hour with only a very slight feeling of nausea and I'm the sort of person who gets nauseous on short plane flights where the takeoff and landing are very close together (boston-nyc, boston-philly, ,nyc-norfolk, etc) and in the back seat of cars since I was a kid... so I don't think it's that severe or I'd have thrown up on my friends new carpet which may have ended our friendship through proxy of his wife's rage.

[XanderZane]

Again?!?!?. This isn't the first reviewer who had this problem with this game. There have been several others.

[ziggurcat]

... and there have been a bunch that haven't said anything about feeling ill. it's clearly specific to the individual, not the game.

[Red_Renegade]

a few. not many. why do you care anyway?

[UCForce]

@Green_gangsta6 You are not fooling anyone. Someone going to ban you.

[Eonjay]

Its fine. Some people have issues with motion in VR. Others do not.

[Death]

Its a little more than that. Driveclub is very jittery when you aren't physically moving. I'm hoping its something that can be addressed with an update. It simply doesn't track well.

[morganfell]

Yes it does.

I have run it quite a bit. The issue isn't the game. Any video captured from the social screen, which is where the PS4 captures take their feed, appears jittery when in fact what the player sees in the headset, which is different than the social screen and capture, is quite steady. I noticed this when capturing video not only in Drive Club but in Batman VR and in Eve Valkyrie as well. While the social screen, and thus PS4 captures may show you what the user is looking at, the do not represent in a host of ways how the wearer views the game world. Anyone with a PSVR knows this.

[SniperControl]

Oh moldy.... Here again with your touching concern for Playstation gamers......

[dumahim]

Team VVV doesn't seem to have a problem. Maybe it's the fact he's using a wheel and gamesradar is using controller.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[THRASHMOUTH]

I've been using the controller, all has been well.

[Loktai]

I was ok with a controller, slight feeling of motion sickness after 30 min, but I'm a VR newbie and have a history of motion sickness ...

This will sound like a fan boy comment I understand that but-

People if you have a motion sickness issue don't disregard VR... it's worth the dramamine, at least to try it out and see If you can adapt. it's so different and the feeling of presence is like... unreal. I want to play every genera of game in this way, even if it's third person. it's so cool and I haven't felt this connected and immersed in a game since I was a kid sitting on the floor in front of a console TV without a care in the world. NOT just PSVR , but any VR deserves a chance. Psvr just happens to be the most accessible and in my opinion down the road will give the easiest way to know how your personal experience will be since the games run on identical hardware, where on PC your experience will vary a little more especially across headsets.

JUST my two cents!

[SierraGuy]

Not for the faint... PlayStation only...suck it up buttercup. Depends on the game.

[IamTylerDurden1]

I played Driveclub VR and so did my brother and we did not feel sick at all. In fact, Rigs had more of a dizziness effect than DC VR. I absolutely love DC VR and I'm unsure why it's not getting great reviews.

[Drithe]

What is happening is NERDS arent used to moving anything but their fingers. Since they have to move their head they are getting motion sickness.

[Loktai]

I agree with the basics but even non nerds would not be used to this.. don't generalize people not everybody likes the term nerd. I repair servers and storage arrays for a living , have a bunch of nerdy hobbies like insects and breeding frogs and stuff but I don't like to be considered a nerd. .. I also repair my own cars (up to and including engine tear down and swap ... but I don't open auto transmissions outside the pan and replace the valves from underneath), do landscaping and so on... but I still get motion sick as a passenger in a car or on some airline flights. It's all personal.

[ballisticvoodoo]

Hey look everybody! moldydik is salivating under his bridge.

[Skillz1215]

hey moldy ---- you

[NXSwitch]

No its that the game sucks balls, tits, & ass big time. A failed game trying to resell itself is not going to help VR. Its so easy to see this so why can't others, smh!

[UCForce]

Well, I could say that true, but game like RIGS, REZ and Thumper are very good. And upcoming Farpoint going to prove it.

[DigitalRaptor]

LOL.

Well if it ain't the Sony concern professional himself.

I'm glad not to have been around so much recently with the influx of PSVR articles on here, because I would have to put up with your disingenuous nature and concern trolling, as others have pointed out. Like your friends, where are you when the positive articles come around?

There's nothing wrong with the frame rate. Almost every single pre-release preview and consumer impression of DriveClub VR praised it one way or another, so there's something up here, and it's probably not to do with the game itself. It's probably something to do with the fact that everyone is different and VR can give some people nausea while other people are completely fine.

[Deadpooled]

I guess these reviewers should offer tips like don't eat for hours before playing etc

[NXSwitch]

Here is my tip....throw it in the trash & go play Atari!

[UCForce]

Here my advice, don't force people.

[Nero2142]

Isn't this like normal motion sickness in car ? Can't you take medicine for this ?

[Mulando]

No, because in a care you are actually moving. This is just the normal simulator sickness.

But this game is one of those, the occulus makers warned about. If it isn't made good, many customers won't be interessted in VR anymore.
Seems like they invested more time in the demo (which the reviewers could play) than the final game.

[ChristopherJack]

Often those sicknesses are placebos, you're only sick because you think you're going to be sick.

[SierraGuy]

Agreed stop looking sideways and look forward...if u ask me it's realistic just like a real car.

[Bigpappy]

Doesn't sound like you have ever driven a real car

[Artemidorus]

Not quite the same

[Perjoss]

No, motion sickness you get from real cars and boats etc, VR sickness is actually called simulation sickness and its kind of the opposite as you don't get sick from the movements, you get sick because of the lack of movements. Your eyes tell your brain that you're moving around but your body and other senses aren't sending the same signals.

[Loktai]

Most motion sickness in cars and vr is from vision and the disconnect. .. that is why many people are OK if sleeping in the car or a planr. sea sickness is a little different though often is also made much worse by looking out onto the water vs just staying inside , that motion sickness IS different from VR and what most people get sick from in a car though for some just the start /stopping of a car upsets the stomach.

[Loktai]

Yes it would help of course... anyone who says otherwise is wrong but what will help more is taking a break when you feel it and making sure the headset is on straight and calibrated ... it's going to be really subjective just like people who get carsick, some people get car sick in some people's cars and not others whIle which cars and drivers make them sick DOES vary by person.

[NXSwitch]

VR overdose!

[Evolve]

I almost threw up last night playing DCVR
This is not good.

[Artemidorus]

Disagreeing with the facts, the millennial theory.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Not me. Got more sick from Playroom than DCVR. DCVR felt great to me.

[snoopgg]

Yeah there are going to be certain people that are going to get sick, but not everyone is . Heck, my cousin gets sick just from fpshooters. Call of duty made him sick, and he would be someone that vr wouldn't be good for. Everyone won't get sick from vr.

[Yohshida]

But but not everyone gets sick, so its not that bad right??? /s

[UCForce]

Ok, how about this ? This article has approved about twelve hours ago. Other articles was approved about 8 hours. By the way, I think people enjoy DriveClub VR, the only downside is the graphics been downgraded that because it need 60fps to play the game.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Visuals are downgraded but the framerate is boosted. DCVR is so damn good, it forced my buddy who's the manager at Gamestop to get a PSVR. It's a shame that such a great game is being overshadowed by sickness propaganda. Every VR game has the potential to make someone sick, but a very small percentage actually get sick. I highly doubt DCVR has a much higher rate of sickness than any other VR game. It's not just heavy locomotion games, it can even be walking sims. Here They Lie made my brother sick in the beginning but Thumper and DCVR did not.

[Red_Renegade]

not just not everybody. the vast majority don't get sick. what's your experience with it?

[Yohshida]

According to reviewrs, alot get sick

[UCForce]

This article based on individual person.

[Yohshida]

Okay:
http://n4g.com/news/1970621...
https://www.vg247.com/2016/...
https://www.inverse.com/art...
http://www.digitalspy.com/g...

need more?

[trooper_]

Oh wow, four articles based on opinion.

Doesn't mean VR is bad. Take your fake concerns elsewhere.

[Yohshida]

How many do you need? 10?
these are gaming sites reporting an issue with psvr

[JasonKCK]

Many youtube videos about this as well.

[UCForce]

Hmm ? Only four articles. So what ? More importantly, I read it on Twitter and other sites for example like EuroGamer, Push Square and other sites. It's minority, but not much. Look, I do understand VR caused people sick, but it's depend each person how they can handle.

Edit : http://thegg.net/reviews/pl...

Edit #2: @JasonKCK Yeah, I noticed that. But I think you should look at VVV YouTube Channel.

[Red_Renegade]

i asked about you. did you get sick when you tried it? even if you did, why is it only right now that anybody at all is getting sick? people have been playing for months, so what changed?

[Yohshida]

Whoa dmg control squad tries to defend everything. Even if it would kill 20% of all people you guys would be like " those arent all people using it"

[UCForce]

It's not damage control. What they said was right.

[MasterCornholio]

Why would VR kill people in the first place?

I'm wondering if it's even possible because you seen to believe that it is.

[UCForce]

Even if it killed people, would you think video game can kill people too ? Before you guys get triggered by this, I'm not saying video game kill people, but for those who have a mental illness or playing video game too long like 2 or 4 days, it can hurt people health. Video game is for fun, but it's also your health to make sure is priority.

[trooper_]

Sure, whatever you say. The majority of the reviews HAVE been possible so keep dreaming.

[-Foxtrot]

I feel like all the Super Models will buy this

"Now I don't need my two fingers any more"

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Omg xD

[uth11]

Is this a problem for VR' driving games in general?

I don't see how you can have all that acceleration and braking without feeling the g-forcea on your body and not have a physical reaction

[UCForce]

This article have been posted for twelve hours ago. Hmm ?

[Nivekki]

What's your point?

[zaherdab]

It could've been posted 13 hours ago !

[CrimsonWing69]

I commend you on having some journalistic integrity.

[ftwrthtx]

Project cars will be the same way. Too much motion too close to your face with too poor of graphics.

[Mrveryodd]

maybe he was in the passenger seat. .........)

[Vasto]

This is not good at all.

[captainexplosion]

No idea how this game has a 63 on Metacritic. Easily the worst VR game I have played so far. Even if it didn't make me sick & the graphics weren't terrible it's a boring game. If u want a game that really shows off VR I would recommend Until Dawn.

[RavageX]

I finally got the game downloaded late last night, played it and several others. I felt a little disoriented at first but I got used to it quick. It does suck that some people are getting sick but I suspect they aren't giving themselves time to adjust. Take it slow at first if it makes you sick.

The game itself, I loved the first Driveclub...excellent graphics, great sense of speed with that game. VR...the graphics are a definite downgrade...but I'm perfectly willing to sacrifice that for the VR experience of it. Playing the game, looking around at the seats, backseats, etc...the experience brings a smile to my face every time.

I was very iffy on going in on VR, but there is potential. Looking forward to seeing more fully fleshed out games.

[zaherdab]

I honestly dont think the game warranted that much visual downgrade ... I played it too and though i can say it i got less motion sickness playing with a wheel than playing with a gamepad for some reason, the visuals just took the immersion out.
VR is an experience and the graphics are a huge part of that experience.

[Relientk77]

Pics or it didn't happen ;-)

[Nodoze]

I don't care how good a game might be, if it makes me physically sick...I am not playing it. If this becomes a broader issue VR will die before it ever catches on.

[UCForce]

So you are saying VR gimmick ? Alright, this is not like 90s was. That was a long time ago. Sure, The current VR still have problems but we can now use new technology easier than before.

[kraenk12]

Luckily it's clearly the minority so quit the fake concern.

[Yo Mama]

I don't know what it is making them sick. I was scared of getting motion sickness from VR games after reading how it makes some people puke, but I haven't experienced any from all the games I played so far. DriveClub included.

[therealsasquatch]

VR gaming the new 3D TV.

[Star51]

Not comparable. 3D tvs required expensive glasses, a movie player , and a really expensive tv. Plus VR is much more appealing than the 3D Found in most 3d films

[nitus10]

Most 3D TV's were only slightly more expensive than a comparable spec'd HDTV. Some 3D glasses were passive in that they did not need a battery (see some LG screens) although most 3D TV's did require active glasses (more expensive) which required batteries (some were rechargeable). You can even get 3D UHD TV's that are not much more expensive than their equivalent counterparts. I will concede that 3D glasses can be an annoyance (subjective) particularly if you wear glasses.

As for a 3D movie player, you definitely did need one to play 3D movies, however the PS3, PS4 (from V1.75) and the XB1 (Aug 2014) can play 3D Bluray movies. Many people have been saying 3D is dead and yet here we are in late 2016 and there are still new 3D TV's (HD and UHD) being made as well as new 3D movies and Games coming out.

Have you ever watched a 3D movie or better yet played a 3D game (example: Trine on the PS3 and PS4)? Of course you still need a 3D display (yes some monitors also support 3D) to view 3D content.

[Elda]

LOL! Another reason I'm not buying it.

[WeAreLegion]

You are missing out on so much, dude. You have no idea.

[Elda]

PS4 Pro is where it's at! Lounging back on a couch playing 4k games on a 4k hdr tv,not some contraption on your face playing non AAA games.

[quent]

https://media1.giphy.com/me...

[Stapleface]

I have let 4 different people try DriveclubVR. None of them have had any issues. Looks like a few websites need new reviewers. If none of your people can play VR, your going to need someone who can. That goes for every website with this issue. That won't be hard considering it's the minority having problems. Free walking, fast moving, no issues for any of the people I've let try my PSVR, on any titles. I think some people will just be sol. Which does suck. But it's nearly impossible to make a product like this work for 100% of humanity.

[sci4me]

My family ( 13, 15 and 2x41 years old) played it quite abit and i cant say anyone of us had any issue.

[SynestheticRoar]

Some get sick on rides,others don't.

[jznrpg]

I used to get car sick as a kid and I am fine, my daughter hasnt tried it yet but I will update when she does, she gets car sick easily like i did as a child, but not sure she will want to play it of I tell her she might get sick

[gaf]

Been playing this, VR Worlds, Rigs and a bunch of demos for hours and hours and not a hint of a problem.... it seems to be an issue for some people but of the four others I know who have been using it not one has reported issues. For people who don't have problems PSVR is great. Probably a good idea to put the complaints in that context.

[jensen86]

Tbh iv got the vive aswell n project cars did make me feel a bit sik. I do seem a lil bit prone to it but drive club was fine im guessin where they built it from the ground up for it

[bean59]

I wonder if people who get sea sick easily are more prone to this? All these people getting sick reminds me of staring at a gameboy screen for hours while on a road trip. That used to make me puke my brains out but I've never gotten sick playing in front of my tv as of yet.

[Loaf]

I loved Driveclub and played it to death. Took a punt on this and bought it without trying the demo. And yeh I can only have one or two races before feeling slightly queezy. I think it's the undulations in the road/going over slight crests that sets my stomach off. Shame coz I like the game and wish I could play it longer

[mudakoshaka]

WE NEED TO BAN BUSES, CARS AND SHIPS!

Since a lot of people get sick from those things that means they are really bad things for us. I don't know if any of you have ever been in a car at 130mph and made strong turns and not gotten sick AT ALL!! I have not been either, but I would imagine it would not be so comfortable. So as far as immersion goes, it hit it right on the SPOT! If you get sick, that's because you are a sissy and don't deserve to play VR!

[its_JEFF]

Seems to vary from person to person. I know people like to pile on Driveclub, but in this instance I don't think it's the fault of the game. Watched Jeff from Giantbomb play it and he didn't have any issue with feeling sick. I kind figured this would happen with VR, everyone is different and will react as such.

[level 360]

I think and hope that any/all retail shops selling VR games should have a demo in place for prospecting buyers'.. or we'll see a lot of ( VR ) games being returned or replaced with another title probably.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Driveclub is fantastic, it's so immersive and plays every bit as good as its PS4 counterpart. There wasn't a hint of sickness on my part. No vertigo, no dizziness, nothing except a damn fun racing game. I honestly feel like this title would've been an 80 on Metacritic had it not been called Driveclub. It does not even look bad, it's a little hazy, but so are all VR games. In a time of demos masquerading on VR as games, Driveclub VR is a legit, content rich title with terrific gameplay. It should be celebated for this. I invite ppl to come watch me stream DC VR on Twitch and we can discuss why it's great.

[gigoran]

nope. no games on there have made me feel sick at all. I have heard people even on pc getting sick so it must be only some people being affected.

odyssey is one of the best parts of worlds. short, but impressive. makes you wonder what they could do with something like Pacific Rim style

[vegasgamerdawg]

Just came in to read the Sony fanBOY's excuses and laugh...Kthanks, you didn't disappoint. A lot of people are getting sick off this game. Can't argue facts, but you delusional fanBOYs do give it the college try. You know where the I disagree with reality button is , you use it all of the time. I'll troll ya laters....Maybe we could ask for an adult section at N4G where all fanBOY's are hung by the nuts and we could talk about games. One can dream. ........

[DashArrivals]

VR is awesome and fun. Your trolling will never stop that. VR is and will be a success. It is really really good man. I'm so sure you will love it. Rush Of Blood is bloody amazing

[its_JEFF]

I only came here to watch the fanGIRLs troll on the fanBOYs defending the game... I wasn't disappointed, 10/10 would visit this article again.

[Spenok]

This is a crock of BS. I played it extensively last night and had no issues. Now I know it affects people differently, but EVERYONE? Either they have 2-3 people working there, or it's bs.

[IamTylerDurden1]

For me DCVR is the most complete and the most legit VR game. If you want a game that you can sink 100hrs into with 2-3hr sessions then get DCVR. It is my go to VR game atm. It's brilliant being in the cockpit of a Pagani in VR. Awesome game.

[Segata]

We give it a BLARRRGHUPBL Out of 10.

[PSG4MER]

After experiencing PS VR, I haven't had any motion sickness whatsoever. I think VR in general has the potential to make you a little sick, that depends on the experience and 'you' personally. If it's anything like reality, then stepping on a rollercoaster might require a sick bucket at hand for those who are a little queasy (if it's realistic), because it's fast, adrenaline filled, and exciting to an extreme.

[DashArrivals]

Me either. Hearing all these reports about sickness, makes me feel so relieved that I am not one of them. I have not been this happy while playing a game in so many years man. I'm having so much fun. I'm so glad I don't feel the sickness at all

[zaherdab]

oddly enough playing it with a wheel made me less dizzy then playing it with a controller... that aside the graphics are seriously bad. i feel that since evolution studio was not optimizing it a dev team from sony just downgraded the graphics enough to get stereoscopic 3d with a higher frame rate by downgrading the graphics enough to be able to support it...
It's shame

[WeAreLegion]

What in God's name are these people doing wrong? It plays just fine on my PSVR and everyone who has tried it has loved it. How weak are they?

[Pandamobile]

Some people are inherently immune to the effects of motion sickness, but clearly something that DCVR's dev team did, or the PSVR hardware itself is doing, is not adequate for a good VR experience.

These are the early hurdles and roadblocks that affect new mediums.

[nitus10]

I would not say they were weak. Some people are susceptible to motion or perceived motion sickness to varying degrees and in most cases, the issue clears up in a few hours or days. This is not that much more different to epilepsy since there are varying degrees ranging from simple nausea to full-blown and life-threatening shock.

The rules for using the PSVR are in all cases. If you feel any dizziness or nausea then close your eyes, remove the VR headset and rest for an hour or more. If symptoms persist you may have a form of epilepsy (usually mild) so it would be a good idea to see your doctor who can advise and/or prescribe some medication.

I do agree with you I actually find it hard to believe that all the game reviewers in the office had an epileptic reaction to the game.

[Altovoltage]

Thank god they released a demo for this game. I love the PS4 version but the VR version sucks really bad. I got motion sickness within like a minute of playing. The graphics look so bad and blurry. The complete opposite of the original Driveclub. They should of never released this game the way it is.

[DashArrivals]

It's fine. It feels fine... to me. I enjoy it

[NotanotherReboot]

Sony should do the honorable thing and recall all PS VR then call it a day. This is a serious danger hazard.

[DashArrivals]

OMG shut up pal... you forgot to put the /s at the end of your useless comment. There is warnings about nausea just like epilepsie warnings on normal games. Hardly ANYONE is feeling sick. Certainly not me. VR... any VR, is awesome. But I've only played PSVR for hours and hours.

[mogwaii]

This is one that didnt effect me at all, now space oddysey and vr luge they made me queazy.

[Altovoltage]

Wow fanboys are something else. I love PlayStation as much as the next guy but this game made me sick last night. First game I tried and got me sick and I couldn't enjoy any other demos after that last night. The reports are true this game it's making some people sick it's not an evil plan of reviewers who are saying that because I experienced myself.

[DashArrivals]

Well that's you pal. 1 in 5 might feel sick. I played 3 hours straight and didn't feel sick at all. I played 3 hours of Rush Of Blood and did not feel sick.

[Toon_Link]

If you act natural like you're really driving motion sickness is minimal. The times I act like its a video game and keep looking forward are the times I get a sick feeling. The more you look into the distance the better while moving fast in VR.

[mike32UK]

My stomach in general is relatively weak I do tend to get travel sick quite often, I also can't go on many fairground rides that Spin alot because I WILL be sick 😂. Strangely I spent a good 30 minutes on Driveclub VR without feeling any sickness whatsoever, of all of the demos I've tested so far Rigs definitely made me nearly bring up my dinner. The first time I made my character jump I had that feeling in my stomach of going over a big hill in a car. I do however think rigs is an amazing first gen VR game so I'll be pushing through the sickness and trying to get used to it

[DashArrivals]

I played 3 hours straight with DriveClub VR and I'm fine. My favourite VR to date is most definately RUSH OF BLOOD, man that is so much fun. VR is so awesome. I haven't been this happy while gaming since Super Nintendo or N64 or PS1

[MeteorPanda]

okay guys. theres some rules for developers to follow when making vr games, no graphics dont even matter it's all about the fact the user has most of their senses manipulated and knowing where and when not to trick the brain
1 is never remove the control of the camera from the user. this is instant nasua. See resident evil vr. Driveclub might also be doing this. This shit is instant sickness

2. stay away from visual clutter. the more things you have going on in the scene the more overwhelmed the user can be. with no safe zone to rest the eyes the lizard part of your brain will start to panic "am l in danger?" instinct

3. while not a health hazard, making sure the height of the user matches the controled camera in game. While Valves vr headset supports this, devs were questioning where is playstations offset setting. it could come in an update on the ps4 itself.

4. children. really. limit their time on it. their senses aren't all fully developed and their eyesight isnt as wide as an adults believe it or not. Making them sit through vr can raise some health concerns though l havn't fully researched into this.

Source: multiple game engine seminars exploring vr, college project making a vr game and various conversations of trials and errors with unreal devs.

not trying to scare anyone just making a point that vr isn't going to be a fun ride atm while people figure out the sweet spot on how to use this

[nitrogav]

It's the bizarre tracking that's off. Everytime I goto the garage and pick a car and go for a race, by the end of it, the tracking shifts by 90 degrees anticlockwise! . It's really strange and annoying because the game is great when it's working properly. Hope patch incoming soon?.

[YoshiMane]

works fine for me... need some reviewers with balls

[FreakyFox]

I dont like how it makes me feel after ive played a VF game, i feel some what down and a little depressed , but im going to try a few more titles, but i think its going to be a waste for me, i think im just one of those people who cant handle VR.

[MagicBeanz]

Yeah we got it already, how many times we gonna do these articles about DC VR?

[steven83r]

Hm ya it's true. I just played a lot of demos no issue. Tried Driveclub for 30 sec had to rip headset off before i almost threw up. And nausea stayed with me for almost 30 min. I think it's because everything is moving around you but your body isn't. Maybe one of those motion chairs would do the trick.

[zodiac909]

This is one of those situations where you can either handle the VR experience in question or not, in this case, their entire staff couldn't handle it, so they make it sound like it's a bad experience, when in reality this is bad journalism, that is quick to critique without hesitation.

[GoodOldWrastling14]

Here's a tip for ya, try playing the game without LOOKING sideways too fast and too constantly. When I race around a paid lap in Vegas I am constantly told by my handlers NOT to look sideways rapidly when going 140 or higher because your brain is trying to process information and doing so will overload it. Just slowly glance when you need to look. I do appreciate that VR has this sense of realism to it

[cell989]

Tried it with the family today, and out of 6 only one felt sick playing drive club and that was because she kept steering like crazy and making the car spin. Everyone was very impressed by it, spent hours going through all the demos.

[madpuppy]

I think it is all a matter of getting use to it, I remember when I stopped playing games for a few years and mainly used my computer for my business, Some FPS came out that I wanted to play, (might have been HL2 or something), I remember gradually getting sick as a dog after playing it for about a half hour. man, I had to chew ice with my eyes closed for a while till it dissipated. (before this, I clocked hours upon hours in FPS games with no issues at all), and after a couple more times playing, the nausea and headaches went away and never came back.

I think that after all the newness dies down and VR finds it's place, most people will just get acclimated to playing that way and it will be a non issue.

[DimensionalSound]

Hopefully Sony has a contingency plan in place for this. All it takes is one reason for someone to say "no" to a $400+ purchase, and getting sick is an easy reason to decline.

[Bobafret]

The amount of denial here is stunning. It is an empirical fact that a large percentage of people get motion sickness from this and other games.

[lildudexst]

Yeah it take time getting use to it. Remember we all new to it unless you own the other high end ones. Yes it got me light headed after 2 hours. Take time getting use to. But it so cool

[T2X]

Actually, I think I know why this is. Probably because it's a driving game and as such If we are just playing the regular version, not in VR, it can feel like your stomach flips when your just looking at speed on a display screen. Now add the effect of being "IN" the car and moving as well, not everyone could take that. As a matter of fact most people couldn't do it in a real car, because they would feel queasy or "Unsafe" and uncomfortable. I know I don't have the real world balls to drive a race car. Same as feeling ill in a flight sim. Let's face it, not everyone could be a real race car driver or pilot. That's why we're doing in a simulation and guess what? the result is the same.

[NJShadow]

I can assure folks that this game is barely playable the way it is. The best part was me sitting in the car beforehand, admiring the upholstery. As soon as I started taking turns, I began to get extremely dizzy. By the time I made the decision to quit (didn't make it 1 full lap), I felt like I had vertigo, and the rest of the night I felt horrible.

So far, this is the ONLY title to make me feel this way, and after speaking with a friend who heads another major online publication, he also said he felt like he was going to puke. I played DRIVECLUB VR more than 5 hours ago, and I'm still dizzy.

Every other title, video, etc. I've played has been absolutely fine. If you bought the game but have not opened it, STOP and play the demo first.

[NeoGamer232]

VR...

Really cool tech... Just not for everyone. That is to be expected.

Personally, I get motion sickness when playing some shooters and racing games on my big screen TVs. So, VR is not at all something I will try anytime soon.

[FyBy]

Another sick situation? I dont understand. I played nearly 10 hours so far, have completed the tour and advanced to driver level 30. Why so many reviewers feel sick? Yes there is a little dizzines sometimes, but it occures much more in RIGS, rez infinite and stardust. Take the pills against motion sickness and make the review :-))