Three Problems With Gaming Today

Path of the Gamer has just uploaded an article discussing three problems they see with gaming today, including too many waypoints, and too much content over quality.

[zb1ftw777]

I dont get this feeling on my xb1.

[Aenea]

So the author needs to get an X1 to get out of his gaming funk, even tho 99% of the games available are the exact same?

[zb1ftw777]

No they arent.

The PS4 is loaded with jrpgs, rpgs, failed exclusives and indies, which is what the author is moaning about.

The xb1 doesnt come with a tonne of shit like the ps4, which means the playerbase isnt spread into a tonne of useless crapolas.

Topped of with the fact that being in the UK i only mostly game with uk or usa players and not a million random foreigners with whome i have no interest in listening too, my xb1 experience vastly superscedes this guys ps4 experience.

[DarkZane]

@zb1ftw777 "The PS4 is loaded with jrpgs, rpgs, failed exclusives and indies, which is what the author is moaning about. "

I think Microsoft are the ones with the failed exclusives. Except Halo, all their other games struggle to sell 1 million. Meanwhile even the Order 1886 did it without any problem. The PS4 has better exclusives and more diversity in them.

JRPGs, RPGs and indies. What's wrong with diversity? It's one of the reason why the PS4 is winning by such a huge margin. The Xbox One gives you the same thing every year but on a different platter. Plus there is no point in buying a Xbox One now since all their games can be played on PC from now on and the old ones aren't worth it anyway. You also don't need much of a PC to run their games at low or medium settings on 1080p resolution and they will look better than Xbox One while having 60fps.

Meanwhile, everything else other than Forza, Halo and Gears microsoft tries to come up with fails critically and salewise. Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, ReCore and Ori of the blind forest sales are terrible and let's be realistic, Sea of Thieves will get the same fate.

Pretty much everything else you guys think will beat the PS4 ends failing miserably. The Pro will beat the Scorpio on US and UK salewise because it's coming out a year earlier and at a much lower price point. The Scorpio is dead on arrival because it's a premium high-end product which is likely gonna cost above 500$. The Scorpio is the next "Cloud", which failed miserably to dethrone the PS4.

[Ra3v3r]

@zb1ftw777

It's folk like you that give us normal Xbox fans a bad name, especially when its uninformed, blind, bullshit!

The xbox has as many indies as PS4, but less of them are high profile. We also have the preview program which is introducing even more indie titles to the console.

Both consoles essentially offer the same experience from 3rd parties and diversify with exclusives. There are some outstanding PS titles I've enjoyed and I have many more to look forward to. Also, the recent PSN sales have offered much better discounts on popular titles than Live. Maybe you should try and pick up a Dual Shock before slinging mud and I say that as someone who has had an Xbox as my primary console since the OG Xbox.

You also give the UK a bad name with your backwards ass bigotry. I love getting to play with the rest of Europe. I've met some awesome people even though we don't always understand each other.

I'm not gonna apologise for getting personal but your attitudes and others like you are a blight on society. And don't even give me any "my opinion" BS cos we don't have to respect every opinion when it's rooted in hate.

[P_Bomb]

@zb1ftw
You say the Xbox doesn't come with a "ton of shit like the PS4" or have a "ton of foreigners", but the games the author's talking about are *literally* on Xbox. Skyrim and MGSV, the games the author name drops, are quite literally multiplatform. MGS is even made by Japanese developers. You're putting words in the author's mouth he never said.

[rainslacker]

@zb

So X1 isn't filled with failed exclusives and tons of indies, but has plenty of the same games that PS4 has, so somehow, PS4 is worse?

I really fail to see your logic, since X1 does have plenty of indies, and it's share of failed exclusives....and I've never seen the argument that fewer games is good except from those trying to say that one systems games aren't quality games.....which PS has plenty of.

[Aenea]

Oh wow...

You didn't read the article did you? Maybe the first paragraph but beyond that you stopped, decided "stupid PS4 player, I don't have that issue, must be those jrpgs, indies, failed exclusives all those damn foreigners!".

When you would have read further you would've noticed he talks and moans about games like Skyrim, Divinity: Original Sin, MGSV, Assassin's Creed 2, The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds. Except for the last one all these are also available on your precious Xbox. The last one is of course a Nintendo game and has nothing to do with the PS4.

He's talking about gaming in general, would you've read beyond the little word 'PS4' you would have gotten that, instead you immediately made you up your mind and created all those pre-conceived reasons why he would be in a gaming funk and why you will never be in the same situation.

It's crazy how much stupidity your post conveyed, I have no words. Then again you probably don't fully read this post either because I'm one of those random foreigners you hate so much...

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Also:

Finally an Xbox fanboy who admits the PS4 has more games and more diversity! 😜

[nosferatuzodd]

Lol how could he he's a troll trying to justify his preacious xbone

[ninsigma]

Don't need an article. Just need to look at commenters like you. YOU'RE what's wrong with gaming today.

[Sunny_D]

Lmao, speaking of failed exclusives. What games does the Xbox have again? Forza Horizon 3 after what 3 Years; it gets a actual decent exclusive?

Talking to foreigners? You do know most games use peer to peer in a region that is similar to yours. Any other game allows you to use different servers. Ex: Rocket League.

[sullynathan]

While I agree with some of what the article had, the author clearly has no clue what he's talking about in other things.

Divinity original sin looks pretty and looks far prettier than a lot of other indie rpg's. Larian didn't spend much time on story at all, that's why it had such bad writing and it was goofy as hell. The game doesn't have good choices and consequences but rather fun and creative combat and that matters a lot when your game is 90% combat.

Original sin also allows you to level up very far and become ridiculously powerful, obviously not as much as Skyrim but it is clear which class to play.
Divinity isn't that special going by the examplesyou mention, instead it seems like you're a generic AAA gamer with the fact that you mentioned Skyrim, Ass Creed and battlefield.
Perhaps you only played Divinity original sin because it came out on PS4 recently and it was popular for an indie.

There are more games like it that are better than it that have released.

[Adrian_v01]

He actually made good points. You just sound like another "AAA is doom" type of gamer. Read the article again, maybe then you'll understand what he meant.

[sullynathan]

I literally said I agree with him on many points nor did I say that AAA is doom. God, you N4G users are crazy.

[_-EDMIX-_]

lol agreed.

If you've read any of Sully's comments, it legit sounds like he believes the industry is on its last leg, any day folks ARMAGEDDON!!

[Adrian_v01]

You said "I agree with some of what the article had" and that's the only positive you said, the rest of your comment is attacking the article without substance.

The author didn't say that Divinity has good choices and consequences, he said that the game gives you choices in the way you play it, which is two completely different things.

In every game once you pass a certain level you'll be overkill, that wasn't the point either. The point is that it actually matters in Divinity what class you are, it's not like Skyrim, where the class choice is only supperficial and doesn't affect gameplay or combat.

He literally praised Divinity for the game it is, yet you attack him as if he said it's the shittiest game ever.

But your comment history reveals the kind you are, either bitter with your own life or just simply a hater (if there even is a difference). You end 90% of your arguments with "God, you N4G users are crazy". Yet here you are, on a website you dislike, with users you dislike. Get your life together.

[sullynathan]

Have you actually played Divinity Original Sin? I attacked his comments on divinity because it sounded like someone who didn't play divinity long enough or someone who hasn't played many rpgs at all. Basically my comment corrected certain things he said.

If you've played Divinity original sin, you know that it doesn't matter what class you are because there is one best class in the game and your partners can fill out the rest. Hell, Original sin allows you to buy npcs as squad mates and allows you to pretty much mold them into anything you want. Again, invalidating you and the authors point which is what I was trying to say.
It's even stupid to compare classes in Divinity with Skyrim, because the latter doesn't have classes in the usual sense.

Skyrim also gave you choices on how you want to play. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that if the author wants to make an article like this, he can certainly pick better games to make his point.

Again, Divinity Original Sins story was just as barebones as Skyrim's yet he claims Larian spent time on its Story which if you actually played the game you know the story was a joke. Hell, at the end you find that the story is just a story that one elf was telling other elves.

For your other comments you are just delusional. Divinity original sin is one of my favorite games, you should be able to tell that after scouring through my profile. I also have many AAA games in my favorites list too but you want to ignore that.

[Majin-vegeta]

1.DLC
2.Microtrans
3.Too much hand holding

[BlacKJesu5]

Co sign on forced tutorials and auto aim

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

i see 1, and the biggest one at that, and that is the media.....

[Gitgud]

I don't really see this as a problem. waypoints can be easily solved, a lot of the time I take off the hud in TW3 and see how much I can remember Velen & Novigrad. "I know if I email the developers of any game they’ll probably message me back saying ‘you can easily turn off the waypoints’. But it’s not that simple, is it?" it is that simple, it's that fucking simple.

"The game (MGSV) probably has 200+ weapons and I’ve used four. Since that boss fight I’ve added the shotgun as a fifth, but I haven’t used it since then. All of a sudden then all of these weapons seem a little unnecessary and heartless. Regardless of which weapon I use they all have the same effect: pull the trigger and your target dies."
That's what guns do though, right? You shoot and kill, what more do you want? They give you a selection of weapons so you can pick what's best for you. I use non lethal weapons, whilst others might use lethal or even use both. I don't see how this is a problem, BF4 has hundreds of guns, but I only use a 338-RECON with an M9. Some shit reasoning IMO.

"I like Skyrim. I really do, but it also makes a good example for what’s wrong with gaming, in a lot of cases, today. Remember the first time Skyrim gameplay was shown off? Todd Howard was commentating over it and when the player left a cave they panned the camera around the open world. Todd said something along the lines of, and I paraphrase, ‘see that mountain over there? You can climb to the top of that mountain. If you can see something in Skyrim you can go to it. This game is about choice…’.

Let’s dissect the notion of choice in Skyrim for a second. Can I climb to the top of that mountain and slide down on my ass? Nope. Can I start a travelling band and roam the taverns of the realm wooing the Nordic ladies by plucking on my banjo? Nope. So what does Skyrim’s ‘unlimited’ choice actually mean in practice?"
You're talking about a 2011 game, and Bethesda. You seriously want to slide down on your arse? Mod the game.

You do have some points, but most can be adjusted like fucking waypoints. Here are the 3 real problems with gaming today, and @Majin-vegeta said it:
1.DLC
2.Microtrans
3.Too much hand holding

[_-EDMIX-_]

100% Agreed.

LOTS of this issues he brings up, are not even real issues. Having many guns doesn't mean someone MUST find a use or enjoy ALL of them. I'm like with you with BF4, I only use the GOL sniper, I only use the Type 88 with the LMG etc thats up to me. Yes, I know I can switch off, I do many times for different situations, but that is my choice. NOT everyone play all those games are using ALL weapons. I like MGSV having all those choices of weapons.

In regards to DLC, unless its advertising content that isn't in the base game, only to sell it as an extra. I don't have much issues with it.

Its user choice and I don't see much point in complaining over a company and a users right to either buy or not buy or make or not make. I only see an issue if they are misrepresenting the main game with content not actually in the game, but in some form of DLC. If they are fully transparent, I'm 100% fine with it. We can't expect developers to seriously except making merely $60 per game, they've been making that for over 10 years now, its just not economically realistic.

Until the price of games goes up and i mean like to $80 to $90 per game, I think we will not only see DLC, we might even see more and even longer. Look at BF3 and BF4, those titles lasted years of being supported with DLC and maybe that is what we might start seeing if the prices don't raise.

Who here would be ok with getting paid the same thing for 10 plus years, all while being asked to do more complex work over the years?

[sullynathan]

Games built around waypoint markers aren't fixed by turning them off because there isn't enough description in the journal otherwise. Witcher 3 & Skyrim suffer from this.

Mark brown made a good video on this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

[PygmelionHunter]

Some of the comments above are missing the point. This article isn't about gaming's biggest issues, but about some of the most overlooked ones that plague almost every big release in recent years.

[Sidewinder-]

I feel u dawg. The waypoint thing - definitely. It's the result of new breed of gamer who has no time to go a layer deeper in immersion.

Take the Skyrim comparison and switch Divinity with Morrowind.

As you say, Skyrim - You get a quest, a destination name and waypoint. Follow it.

Morrowind - You get a quest, a destination, a description of how to get there, a map to follow, written clues, NPC advice etc etc.

One is mechanical, the other organic. One cuts to the chase, the other immerses you in the world.

[MatrixxGT]

It's called handholding. Without it the millennials would cry, reviewers would burry the game, and sales would plummet.

Developers started making games so they are accessible to anyone and broaden their reach to as many possible sales.

This is the new era of gaming we either accept it, adapt, and move on or mourn about the good ole days.

[_-EDMIX-_]

except most games you can turn off the way point on the options, in fact you can outright turn off the hud in many games. I mean....thats up to you bud.

No one is forcing you to use them so the logic is a bit strange. Your mad at options for others? Are you mad at different language settings too or nah? Lets get mad at option subtitles next right?

[ssj27]

My list..

problem #1 We PlayStation owners have to pay a fee to play online.

#2 the lag online is a huge turn off. ( this could be fix only allowing people with good internet to llay online and people with bad connection to be kicked out the game, killzone 2 did it for like it first year and the lag was minimal but then people with bad internet complained that couldn't play the game online and GG had to remove the restrictions and allow anyone to play the game which causes lag)

#3 some companies ruin beloved IPs even if what it needs to comeback is so obvious and easy to archive and make it successful. For example Socom. And many many ips I'm sure anyone can name their few favorite. This same company invest in silly games but disrespect fan's not giving costumers what they want. When they think they know what costumers want and don't listen to costumers is where they fail. Obviously you got to be smart and listen carefully because not every fan wants the same but it's obvious who to listen and what ideas to use.

#4 many player's are very disrespectful. . ( maybe add a message asking gamers to be respectful to others) Just curse or insult because they are hiding behind a screen (most i guess are spoiled kids). . Have no manner. And this also leads to glitchers .. and the PlayStation xbox or pc should be harsher to this people specially glichers and ban them and their ip. (If they want to be welcome back they should contact by phone the company and ask for forgiveness plus with a warning to be have their account totally block no matter how much they have spend. )

#5 dlc divides the community which sucks and then for example when i pay for dlc and nobody plays I'm the buyer is the one been hurt the most. Dlc should first of all be cheaper and it should be free after a year of the game release. Or something like that. (talking about extra maps for coop or competitive online games)

They should never sale new guns to give advantages to that who invest extra. Sure new skins, sale them.. that doesn't affect the game.

[Tetsujin]

3 problems with gaming today:

1. Click-bait headlines adding nothing constructive to the original issue(s)
2. Corporate Greed
3. Fanboy/girl trolling

[Ogygian]

Problem 4: SJWs shoehorning their ideology into games by forcing devs into straitjackets.

[Gwiz]

Only 3?lol

[Smokingunz]

How about adding to that list,
Lazy devs
Too many remaster
Too many dlc
And not enough creativity

[Segata]

Bad DLC practices
Annual releases
creative void
TOO MANY remasters (remasters are not bad but just too many of them)
AAA industry as a whole really
to much focus on graphics esp realism before polishing the game to be good
releasing unfinished games and making people pay to finish it.

People pre ordering this stuff and giving into it.

[TwilightSparkle]

It just seems like everyone spends all day everyday online bragging or complaining about exclusives and framerates. Instead of actually playing those games. I seriously dont believe most people even play their video games cause they're always on here.

[starbuck]

The only real problem with games today is that a lot of companies have that "fix it after its released" attitude. Too many games are being ship now with serious bugs that any tester would of picked up but they have a deadline to keep so the game ships with a day one patch and with not testing it fully the day one patch creates more serious problems which we have to wait a couple of weeks to be fixed.