Infamous dev: PS3 can do 'everything you want'

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at Leipzig Games Convention 2008 Sucker Punch Game Director Nate Fox has revealed the studio's love of the PlayStation 3. Being the studio's first PS3 title after working on three Sly Cooper games for the PlayStation 2, Fox said that "it's great to have that much more detail in the world".

"You have a lot more characters running around, particle effects," he added. "Everything you want, more, more, more, the hardware can take it. I think you can see it. The graphic quality of the game is really, really strong."

[dro]

after seeing mgs4/heavy rain im sure people knew that!!!! what we need is devs that do multiplat games to stop holding back the ps3 version bcuz of the 360,just imaging if games like cod4 were using the ps3 cell propley and they were not trying to make it look the same as the 360 version!!!
i really hope future games on the ps3 which are multiplat will make use of the system propley and not hold back some features bcuz of the 360, i alerday see FF13 not looking as good if it were a ps3 exclusive,u don't see multiplat games on the ds/psp looking the same so y the hell dose devs on consoles try to make it look the same when they know one console can achieve better graphics than the other if they use it propley.

[TheHater]

I think every PS3 owners will want that. But it might not happen. I think developers care too much about trying to make each version equal instead of building the game around each system differently.

[The Lazy One]

Because that would be ridiculously expensive.

[Ju]

How is this ridiculous expensive ? It might cost more, I agree, but not "ridiculous" more. They just get away by not doing it. But I also think until now, there was no pressure to do so. More and more exclusives show more. Hopefully that'll put some pressure to multiplatforms. And then there is the political problem. Multiplatform developers will need support from both, Sony & MS. If they make one game look better they might risk loosing support for the other. Will take some time until someone tries it and others follow.

[hunter21]

thats what im always trying to say to everyone when some gamers will realize that, but you explained it well. kudos to you.

[maggotmx]

its simple making the best they can be in each system may anger a couple of people who think "the other console's game looks better than mine" which may equal to less sales so the devs try to make it so that everyone gets pretty much the SAME experience to make most everyone happy

[tordavis]

"what we need is devs that do multiplat games to stop holding back the ps3 version bcuz of the 360"

Give me two examples of proof of this.

[HighDefinition]

1. GTAIV is one which SAM HOUSER said "the 360 will hold the PS3 back"

2. Any exclusive PS3 looks WAAAAAYY better than EVERY 360 game....like Uncharted, Killzone2, MGS4, Heavy Rain and LBP.

3. 360 devs saying the 360 isn`t going to be able to do much more, Like EPIC, and Turn10 (i think, Forza`s makers)

I think that is PROOF enough.

Not being a "fanboy" these are the FACTS.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Final Fantasy XIII is said by the developers that they're going to fully utilize the PlayStation 3 for the game. So they're going to use the full 50GB according to them and will launch first in Japan then the North America version will come out with the XBOX 360 version. The XBOX 360 version is most likely going to be on six discs compared to the PlayStation 3 version.

I'm going to see how Prototype and Infamous stack up because Infamous is exclusive because of the memory on the disc / design of the game.

[The Lazy One]

that was one example and 2 assumptions.

edit: also, it was a disk space limitation, not a power limitation.

@ other: It would be expensive because the platforms are so different. It's expensive enough to push each system to it's limits on it's own. Look at the budgets of those games you mentioned. Platform specific development would double. Compare that to making a single game that is easily portable to each system, where you get about the same sales with little cost.

[CadDad]

In one sense I'd like to see every game take full advantage of the hardware, but in a more practical sense I would really like to see equality across multi-plat releases.

The reasoning behind it is simple. The games you buy are games you want to play. There are few things as disappointing as hearing that a game you bought wasn't the best "version" of the same game.

I've passed on games in the past that had lazy developers (madden 08) that didn't create an equal experience across platforms.

Either go exclusive and make it the best you can, or make them so close to equal across the platforms that there is no reason to buy one over the other. With all the games coming out and all the "versions" we're subjected to, it's really hard to keep up for an avid gamer like myself, but to a casual person it's enough to make a head spin.

Just my humble opinion.

-CadDad

[Exorgasm]

The thing is that the only things being held back by the competition are game length and overall limit of game data. The PS3 isn't better in the graphics department in any way.

You get better draw distance due to the use of AF or whatever smoothing/filtering process they're using instead of AA, that's a plus. You can also have a lot more going on on the screen at any given time at a smooth rate due to cells power, also pretty awesome.

But then there's the whole issue with all the games having terrible textures and looking smeared/vaseline on the camera from the filtering which totally kills the whole point of high definition gaming. What's the point of hd when all the crisp textures are smoothed together?

My PS3 is a beast and I admit it can do things my 360 will never be able to do without installs and multiple discs but i think you guys go a little overboard with your confidence in it and it's completely unrealistic.

3 disagrees and no replies.If you're going to disagree why don't you point out what I said wrong or provide some pictures where the PS3 puts out good texture quality?
Disagreeing because you don't like the truth just seems silly.

[TheTwelve]

Totally agreed, Dro, especially about the third party games. But this won't happen until the PS3 install base is significantly larger than that of the 360's. Developers have to find reason to make sure that giving special benefits to the PS3 is worthwhile financially.

I personally think it's worth the risk, and that PS3 owners would gladly embrace such benefits. We're worth every cent of effort!

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[PiTCHBLaCK]

Well with DLC a factor, some versions
of a game are already better then others.

PS3 and the 360 are actually quite Different.
I Say they should make a multiplat game based
off of the Console, if the PS3 version takes longer
and cost more, simply jack the price of the game.

If a multiplat game came out but I know the PS3 version
may look better even have added content etc, I Wouldn't mind
forking over an extra $5 - $10, or even renting it!.

[DarK-SilV]

Tordavis as much I like you but I hate it when you say xbox360 can do everything Ps3 can do

Epic's Fergusson said Xbox 360 'Approaching Upper End' Of Visual Potential also "I still think there's room to grow" , there no fu#king huge deference between GEARS1 and 2 http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

Now for Ps3, Naughty dogs said that they used 30% of PS3 power, now uncharted and MGS4 is better then GEAR, also Sucker Punch PS3 can do "everything you want", also read http://www.dasgamer.com/gue...
That's the deference between Ps3 and Xbox 360
If gears 2 used X360 MAX Potential then other games on Ps3 blow Gears out in every aspect (Graphics, physics, animation).

[JoySticksFTW]

especially after those earlier busted PS3 versions of multiplat games (Madden, the Orange Box).

The COD4 team helped other devs see the light and showed them the right way to develop multiplatform titles

Props to the Burn-out: Paradise team as well!

EDIT

But yeah, each system has things that it does particulaly well. It's time that devs start having console-specific teams to encourage optimizing games for each console.

[Ju]

I'd like to add one more thing to the "more expensive" argument. Well, SW is only 1/3rd of the development process (well, 1/4th if you'd add test as a separate entity). The rest is design and asset production (art). So, I am not sure if this will play too much into design. Yes, maybe, you might want to add feature right from the beginning in the design phase. This will increase costs. The second part is assets. I do not see a cost factor here. Maybe overall it might cost a bit more to produce more assets, but one platform being a subset of the others, its more removing what you can't use, instead of adding more (half empty/half full problem). And finally, SW. Engines need to be written for the specific platform anyhow. The architectures are so different, that you cannot simply port on to another. In parts yes, but you need the low level guys doing SMP or SPU work and SW architecture to begin with. Adding streaming to one will not be that much of a problem if done right from the start. And finally it will add some costs to the test cycles if content is different so test scripts need to be adjusted for each platform. But some platform specific testing is already there anyway. So, again, will it be more expensive ? I guess so. Ridiculously ? I doubt it. And in the worst case, just make 360 games cheaper. Done with it. But, no PS3 game was ever cheaper. Usually, I'd expect the costs involved in a port about 2/3 cheaper then the original game, because all design costs and asset production costs should have been covered already. But, still, each port costs the same. They simply roll over the costs from the original production.

[pwnsause]

Torrance, Start thinking outside the box for once. No HDD on the 360 is holding back a lot of games that of course should of looked good. look how GTAIV streams on the 360 to its PS3 counterpart. thats one example that the 360 is holding games back.

[uie4rhig]

i dunno what browser you use, but both Google Chrome and Firefox (Safari too?) have got built-in spell checkers.. if not there is always Office (Word to be precise) or otherwise the free version OpenOffice.org ...
coz i didn't understand much of it lol

[The Lazy One]

of the four development costs (not manufacturing costs), those being software development, game design, art/asset creation, and QA, software development is the largest and most affected by porting. When you push each system, you're essentially doing 1.5 times the work in that area, and that's not taking into account having to redo some models/textures/lighting/effec ts that don't work on either console.

[tordavis]

@DarkSilv - :)
I don't think the 360 can do everything the PS3 can. I've known since day 1 that the PS3 is a more powerful console.

@High Definition - You can't use exclusives in this argument. This is about multiplat titles. Sam Houser knows they could have done more with the Blu-Ray and the fact that the 360 was the lead platform is a good example of the 360 holding the PS3 back. But if you think about it, the PS3 version of GTAIV would have probably been in development for another 6-8 months to fully utilize the hardware. Also, if MS allowed forced HD installs on the 360, they could have spent more time on that version to get it up to the PS3 quality or close to it. Knowing that the 360 is almost at it's peak(it really isn't close to it's peak, it just needs a good dev to bust out the pixie dust)doesn't mean it's holding the PS3 back. So you gave me one good debatable example.

All I'm saying is this, people have been complaining that the 360 is gimping the PS3 but I haven't seen it. I think if developers can make the PS3 version look better then they should. It's only looks we are talking. Gameplay is a non issue right? COD4 had better textures on the PS3 therefore people said it was the better version. Gameplay however, is equal. Same with Burnout.

PS3 has been touted as the starter of the next generation. MS started it first, PS3 continued it and made it better. I think people are looking for reasons to say that the PS3 blows the 360 away. Fact of the matter is, it's not blowing it away. If MS and Sony were the only ones making games for each console, I'd say that it actually is blowing the 360 away. There are far too many 3rd party multiplatform titles that look and play the same on both systems to consider the PS3 the better platform. The gap is widening though. Killzone 2 IMHO is the first jaw dropping game that's a step above what we've seen on the 360. I still think it's hasn't fallen far from the COD4 tree though. Then there's Project Origin...(drool).

I just want to make one more statement for all gamers. The PS3 is newer hardware. Devs are still learning how to utilize it. It's a year younger than the 360. It SHOULD be producing better looking titles. Just equate this to Xbox 1 and PS2. PS2 had better selling titles, but the Xbox games looked better. Did this stop the PS2 from dominating worldwide? Nope. I say to each his own. While some of you here are busy with your F@nb0y agendas, I'll be playing titles on both the 360 and the PS3 and enjoying myself immensely. No producer, PR rep or F@nb0y can change that. I own MGS4 and I own Gears Of War. I have the best of both worlds at my finger tips.

[HighDefinition]

I hear ya, but............

The reason for that is, like GTAIV is 360 has mainly been the lead platform, but that`s changing. We`ll see in 2009 since alot of companies are using PS3 as the "lead".
The more the 360 continues to sell less than the PS3, will also influence them to step up the PS3 development.

Like I said we`ll see in 2009.

And as I said before exclusives MATTER the most and that`s where the PS3 seems to shine and there`s no DENYING that. To me that proves the PS3 can do more, so multiplat must be being affected by the 360 and more so DVD9.

[DarK-SilV]

Tordavis you won't see a difference on miltplat games because Dev Have to consider X360 weakness, that's why I don't use multiplatform games in my argument, that’s why I compare gears 2 to other Ps3 games, and Kill zone 2 is not the first jaw dropping game, GT5 and heavy rain is another example.
I'm going to say it again if gears 2 used X360 MAX Potential then other games on Ps3 blow Gears out in every aspect (Graphics, physics, animation)
Let me tell you, I have both consoles and I'm going to enjoy them both.,

[Ju]

@The lazy one. Well, I agree. You just confirmed what I said, but rephrased it, didn't you? In ports the majority of work is the SW part, being 1/3 of the costs, and basically reducing the other 2 to zero, a port should be about 2/3 cheaper. That's what I said, no ?

Obviously, if you write an engine the first time on a new platform, this equation is not that trivial. But people will get the picture. Also the bit of more costs to touch up assets are also neglected here.

[tordavis]

You guys make good points but I still don't see the point in comparing exclusives when debating that devs are holding the PS3 back with 360 development. With that argument you can only compare multiplat titles. Would GTAIV be better as an exclusive? Maybe. What about Bioshock? I don't think so. I think the developers idea was manifested exactly how they envisioned it. If I were a dev and could make the PS3 versions better every time, I would. Based on your argument, why would devs not use the full power of the PS3 in multiplat titles? Criterion did it, 2K Boston did it, Infinity Ward did it, so what's EA's excuse? What's Rockstars excuse? There are only a few devs that have matched what Epic pulled off on the 360. PS3 devs seem to put more time and effort into their titles and are getting more out of the system. I still think some of the exclusives on PS3 can be done on 360 with ease. Uncharted is one of them. And seriously, what's the point? Go where the good games are at.

[DaTruth]

Just want to point out that lots of multiplatform games on the original XBOX were better than the ps2 version. The problem is the XBOX fanboy. Making a game better on XBOX was no issue last gen because the ps-fanboy is not as rabid as the XBOX fanboy, having won (excuse me, destroyed) the last war the ps-fanboy is not insecure and expects a win again. The XBOX fanboy thought he could sway the ps-fanbase by putting the console down at every opportunity,even before it was on the market; in hopes of not losing on his investment like the last time when they discontinued the system putting his money to waste.

Definition of ps-fanboy: Someone who is so sick of hearing from XBOX fanboys that he has grown to literally hate the system and anyone who owns it. Thus, he does anything to make them feel the same pain.

[RememberThe357]

With most of the multi-platform games coming out looking equal on both systems, the only thing we can compare are exclusives. Exclusives are supposed to bring out the best that the console has to offer. So if your going to compare what each console has to offer you should look at they're exclusive line up. That said, at the end of the day many of the years best games will be multi-platform so we can all enjoy them equally.

[IPlayGames]

Sony & Microsoft should pay for multiplatform games to do things that can only be done on there system.

Keep the same core story and game macanics then make exclusive content for home/live, cell/RSX, 50gig Blu Ray/DLC.

[thereapersson]

Everyone knows that exclusive titles are the true demonstration of a console's potential, and Sucker Punch are talented enough developers to prove that theory.

Deny it all you want, but Sony has some of the best first-party development studios out of any of the big 3 console makers.

[Fishy Fingers]

Dude, Sony has far and away the best first-party developers.

[Lucreto]

So true it helps with the amount of money that Sony pouring into its first party developers.

[HighDefinition]

Has better 1st party Devs, than MS and Nintendo COMBINED, IMO.

I really is unreal.

[littletad]

When Shadow of Colossus sprang into our lives. I only hope they show their next game soon.

[Kratos Spartan]

The world's fastest supercomputer, nicknamed "RoadRunner," recently broke the petaflop barrier, which means it can perform over a quadrillion calculations per second. That's two times as many as the previous world's fastest supercomputer.

How did it manage to accomplish this feat? With the help of the technology at the heart of the PS3! The Roadrunner was built with parts that might be sitting in your study right now, including 6,948 dual-core AMD Opteron chips and 12,960 Cell engines (the ones inside your PS3). Roadrunners creators picked the PS3's Cell Processors because the technology calculates events in real time. Scientists will be using the Roadrunner to perform climate and nuclear weapon simulations, which just shows the raw power of PS3's technology. Just think what PS3 has in store for gamers a few years down the road

[TheHater]

when will developers start using 80% of that power? I say another year

[DavidMacDougall]

Wait till the naughty dog boys get there hands around uncharted 2

ITS OVER 9000!!!!!

[Lucreto]

@TheHater

I say it will be another 2 years before that happens. Code gets refined and optimized over time.

Anyway I would be afraid to connect 5 or more cell processors together in case it creates some kind of independent intelligence like HAL.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Whoever created the PS3 is a F**KING GENIUS!!!;)

Whoever created the xBox 360...should be SH0T!!! ;-D

[Harry190]

You created the PS3. Pride is a sin my son.

[Anton Chigurh]

If Infamous dev got enough talent , they can do anything they want

cell and blu alone are not enough

Talent >>------>>> cell and blu

[juuken]

PS3 rocks.

Nuff' said.

[Shane Kim]

Bless the Gods that Sony's engineers are so brilliant that they can provide Director Nate Fox the tools he require to make the best games only avaible on PS3.

As for me, I'll just continue stealing exclusives for blow jobs ;) (wank).

[Kratos Spartan]

"Everything you want, more, more, more, the hardware can take it."

Be careful with the Black Beast, you don't want to make it angry.

[Kratos Spartan]

Guerilla Games has been poking the caged beast with a stick, trying to make it angry, and look what happened.

Killzone...

[divideby0]

yep...more developers are being vocal about the PS3 and we will see a long life span akin to the PS2.....and of course MS will abandon the 360 in about 2 years

[The Lazy One]

All those first party developers can hardly keep their mouths shut about the console produced by the company that owns them...

/shock

[AssassinHD]

They have the products to back up their claims though.

[Sevir04]

Slant Six
Clap Hanz
Eat Sleep and Play
Insomniac
Sucker punch
Level 5

those guys above arent own by sony and they sing it's power

and we have 3rd party devs like
Konami
Ignition entertainmen
Quantic dreams
Infinity Ward
bethesda
Ubisoft
those guys who are working on Ghostbusters

case in close it doesn't take an unbaised look to see that Sony's console can do more than the competition their first and second party devs and 3rd party partners Say it all the time, the machine as one person said above, backs up the claim.

when games like KZ2, resistance 2 Mag, MGS4 uncharted Ratchet, WarDevil and Heavy rain all push the boundaries of what was thought to be impossible they show it and in numbers, which is why outside of gears 2 you haven't seen anything remotely amazing in graphics on the 360.

[RememberThe357]

Resistance 2 doesn't really seem to be pushing anything graphically, and we haven't seen any gameplay from WarDevil

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Wow that is one happy man lol. He seems super excited about the beast that we know as the Playstation 3.

[DA_SHREDDER]

You will never see a multi platform game look as good as any ps3 exclusive because they make just as much if not more money with half the work anyways. Its a sad fact but its true. The real games that everyone is waiting for is gonna have to be made by Sony's in house studios. Im not saying that multi plat games are bad, Im just saying that only companies that work exclusively for Sony can use the processing power of the ps3 to its limit. You will never ever see a game on a 360 that can out perform and look better then a Sony exclusive because it cost more to make the difference up.

[Shane Kim]

"The truth of the matter is that Multiplat devs dont wann do more work they they have too"

Quote of eternity.

A third party developer will never spend more time and money than necessary to make a game. (Unless his name is Hideo Kojima).

[rebirthofcaos]

WELL WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING!!!!!

I mean lets face this the rrod 360 it is still stuck with gears engine and that is the only game that show the potencial of the 360.

On the ohter hand we have heavy rain, killzone, and GOD OF WAR 3 that it is suposed to looks like beowolf. If it is true show me a game on the 360 that looks better than that. And please do not show gays on war 1.2 since ps3 have unreal that its the same

[ToastyMcNibbles]

cant argue with him...it shows...now we all say this but it truly is an exciting time to be a ps3 owner and a gamer period

[SL1M DADDY]

When the PS3 first came out. It was exciting then and it is exciting now, for me anyways. I know the media was hard on the PS3 and for some reasons, perhaps they were ok in being so but when the smoke cleared, Sony came out swinging and has kept up their momentum since. It is a good time to be a PS3 owner, and more so, it is a good time to be a gamer.

[red5ive]

powder..... toast................... man!!

[The Lazy One]

They posted a part of an interview with them, then make you check back for the whole interview later.

JUST POST THE WHOLE INTERVIEW. jesus.

[Stryfeno2]

Did I expect Sucker Punch to say the opposite?...Ummmmm, NO!

Nate Fox is under contract to say this.

[cliffbo]

and he's under contract to show it too

[AngryXbot]

Except that EA also said it. Bioshock developers also said it.
Treyarch also said the same thing. Activision also said the same thing. And Fallout 3 and Farcry 2 developers said this too. OWNED!

Its called Sony's E3 2008 conference. I knew you stupid idiots would ignore something like that cos youre frikkin blind and stupid.

[militant07]

even grilling
see how ps3 can do everything

[Anton Chigurh]

??????

[KazumaKiryu]

Shame it cant fry an egg :P

[PiTCHBLaCK]

That's one thing the 360 can do better/sarcasm

How ever the PS3 does have a wicked fan, blows allot
of hot air, I use it to warm up the room, it works
to :), But all of that heat would have compacted
inside of the PS3 if it weren't for that fan, We'd be
frying hamburgers and stuff, This would get the PS3
pretty messy.

[NanoGeekTech]

Many Devs are still learning about the PS3......imagine when they come to full grasps of the CELL....it would be scary..

Right now I would love to see what GOWIII would look like.....my pupils may swell and explode.....

Reason#876 to own a PS3: The power of the CELL has not been tapped...

[The Lazy One]

You continue to fail to mention what 1-875 are.

[squall2099]

you all are living a lie!, timmmyyyyy!!! playstation potheads!

[dro]

remember god of war 3 is rumored to look like beowolf the movie, if a rumor can come out like that im sure god of war 3 will be looking better than heavy rain.

[thehitman]

BeoWolf movie? They either must have been working on it a long time then or I doubt it will look that good its still slated for a march release and no screens of it yet.

[Fishy Fingers]

Work was believed to have begun as soon as God of War 2 shipped. Also like dro said, insiders at the studio and Sony have both compared it to Beowolf.

Of course that doesnt mean it will actually look that good (it wont) but if that's be best comparison they could draw I'm happy with that.

Also it ships Q4 2009. That was revealed in a magazine not long ago, March was only rumoured as that was when the others released.

[Ro11z]

then did the exacy same process as the film then maybe but i highly doubt it main because of the cost of the process to get it to work with a active game instead of a post prossess static film

[The Lazy One]

I could say "fable 2 is comparable to real life". That doesn't tell you anything about how the game looks or plays.

[Fishy Fingers]

hmm... I would of thought it was quite obvious, but either way, the comparison was drawn up for the visuals.

[xionpunk]

It wont look like the Beowulf movie, but it sure as hell will look amazing.

[jack who]

can it make eeg and pancakes?

[cemelc]

xbox 360 can

[juuken]

The 360 can also fry some bacon.

[Common Sense]

Oh you mean egg. If you use your next-gen (current-gen?)console's browser, you would not make such mistakes because of word prediction. Wait, your console doesn't have built-in web browser.

[QuizPyro]

The 360 can also fry itself...RROD still haunts you I see

[cemelc]

I think the true power of the PS3 is going to be awesome.

It'll be so awesome that when you watch a game with full 100% of its power your brains will blow cos cant process that much information on the screen

[Anton Chigurh]

but somebody need to unleash this power , just take a look between socom and uncharted , you can see a big differences in graphics

BTW, GOW3 rocks

[frey]

Can Ps3 outsmart bullet?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

...are belong to us

[Beast_Master]

Out there that think that Proto-type will be better than Infamous? I used to think so, but now that I realize how much bigger Infamous should be with Blu-Ray as opposed to what Prototype will be on DVD9. I am excited to see what the scores will be for these two games.

[Fishy Fingers]

I'm sure InFamous will be the better game, not only because it's exclusive and the problems you mention. But also the fact that have of the Proto-type studio just got sacked, that doesnt seem like the actions of a developer/company who think they have something special on there hands.

Only time will tell, but from what I've seen of Proto-type the game looks a little "scatty".

[xionpunk]

Infamous looks great but I'm still very interested in Prototype. I wouldn't write it off just yet, because it looks so awesomely twisted. Graphically, Infamous wins though.
EDIT: whoa when did those devs get fired, that sucks.

[Arsenal4Ever]

GOW 3 would run on the 360 at 5FPS before asking you to input the second disc before doing a combo.

[Karum]

You know from watching the 1080p trailer downloaded from the playstation store, I really can't wait to get my hands on Wipeout HD. Judging by the video that game just looks visually stunning. I know it hasn't pushed the PS3 to it's max or anywhere close but that's the scary part lol. Games like that and Uncharted look so incredibly sick at this early stage of the console's life-cycle

[juuken]

This is one the best systems I ever owned.

I'm still amazed by how Uncharted looked on my T.V and I was even more amazed by MGS4, and other games. I have a good feeling that all the games coming up will *really* step it up.

PS3 FTW. :o)

[Common Sense]

When I first popped in the disk and Nate and Helena were on the boat, I thought it was a cutscene until the pirates started shooting at me. That game is beautiful but it all started with Ratchet and Clank. MGS4 and GT5P have raised the bar even higher. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain and inFamous are the best looking I've ever seen bar none.

[juuken]

We have some amaaaaazing games for this system.

I'm so excited for what the future holds as well. :]

I reemembered that cutscene. My mouth was hanging open when I saw it. Such a gorgeous game.

The action was nonstop as well-my kind of game. :)

[Mr_Bun]

The re-play value of Uncharted is incredible too! I finally have all the trophies for it but there are still a couple of things I haven't unlocked in the game apparently.

[AssassinHD]

If you have all of the trophies then the only locked content should be the cutscenes and the last drake costume. Those require a code sequence to unlock. You can find them at gamefaqs.

[Mr_Bun]

I knew there was a code for the baseball shirt, but I hadn't researched for the movies...point being, you can play the game numerous times and still appreciate it.

Thanks for the code info though.

[cliffbo]

@ Lazy.

remember the exploding gas station in the desert? that was done completely by the Cell. we have seen nothing so far, even with KZ. once devs start using every SPE properly and couple this with fleshing out by RSX, your eyes will bleed

[DJ]

I'm totally convinced that the code from that tech demo made it into Naughty Dog's game, 'cause the volumetric explosions look identical.

[Tone]

Get your facts right.

No one can use every single SPE.. some are used by the PS3 itself to operate etc.

Still a fine machine, but its not the be all and end all!!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I can't wait for the Infamous/Prototype comparisons...

Sucker Punch is innovative with everything! Each Sly introduced something new to the platforming genre.

They even used those button presses that God of War made famous. Yes, they totally had it first!!!

[GameDev]

i been telling xbuttlickers for close to two years that the PS3 would leave the 360 in the dust. They all disagreed and called me a fanboy, kinda like the attitude the mods here have taken with me. They've been proven wrong and in time these mods will realize they are backing the wrong horse and sometimes calling a spade a spade is the only real option and way to end this silly console war.

The REAL problem is people who have very little knowledge of how processing power works inside of a simulation environment. Your console is a simulation environment. They see 3.2ghz for both consoles, the same amount of memory and think everything is equal. That's like saying a ford taurus and a porsche 944 are the same because they both have 4 wheels and 4 cylinders in the engine. DO I NEED TO MAKE MY POINT ANYMORE CLEAR THAN THAT??

what makes the porsche WORLD'S faster and stronger than a taurus. ENGINEERING baby!!!! Same thing applies here. Don't FOCK with the japanese.

[gamer_70]

Sony should have added a built in pocket p*ssy on the PS3! lol!

[Kratos_1986]

P L A Y B 3 Y O N D

my family ps3 owners

[gamer_70]

You ppl are obviously too f*cking stupid too argue with! but.. thanx for the entertainment anyway! lol!

[littletad]

Is Insomniac, I mean come, when have they ever let us down? But judging from the trailers, Infamous is definitely showing some promise. My favorite feature has to be the jumping. It's realistic and the physics and animation quite prove it. No more bogus Halo jumps or stationary leg jumps :)

[RememberThe357]

If you could jump that well thats what it would look like.

[PimpHandStrong]

ask POG or Kmart

Sony promised the PS3 would provide me with time travel!

[ApocalypseShadow]

and got ripped for it.but HOME BETA counters the nonsense from this site from those who won't admit to knowing the truth about ps3's capabilities over 360.

we know 360 can have good looking and fun games.but ps3 can have BIGGER and BETTER looking fun games.but tudors and etownone were disagreeing with my example.and how did they try to hide the truth?

by bubble taking.but that's alright.the "TRUTH" is still out there for gamers to see.

we saw take-10 have to put the rest of the tracks online as a download.we saw that they could only have day time tracks on the disc and no in car view.
http://forzamotorsport.net/...

***"This leads us on to DLC content. Yes, tracks will be made available after the release of Forza 2, the ones they couldn’t fit on the disc initially. So although the 12 environments may sound a little disappointing in terms of volume of content, that will increase. Whether you will have to pay hasn’t been decided yet, and whether you want to pay or not is entirely your decision."***

we also saw visual concepts not be able to put extra content on the disc

http://www.psu.com/MLB-2K8-...

but there are 360 gamers that say ps3 and 360 are at the same level.which isn't true.and sucker punch has a game that is a prime example of more content without disc limits.

my example was a football game.and the game being the typical game we might expect from dvd-9.let's say MADDEN 09.not bad,but could have been more.

but the ps3 version would have more sound bites for the crowds,more extra content like fantasy players,old NFL highlight videos,more cut scenes,more fields,more commentators(sunday football,monday night football,pro bowl,radio)

if the 360 version can only fit on dvd-9 which is about 7.5 gigs,then the ps3 version could potentially have a bigger game on 25 to 50 gig discs.

but the unbelievers would rather the truth be "HIDDEN" like "RROD" from the public.it's one of the reasons i would never want to game with most 360 gamers.they believe the "LIES" microsoft have pushed and try to hide the "TRUTH."

but that's okay.the truth always prevails.and ps3 is gaining for that reason on 360.we will see more devs like sucker puch push the envelope on ps3.

apocalypse...........

[tordavis]

Devs can fit more content on a Blu-Ray than a DVD. That's a given. Problem is, there's money in DLC. Another issue that people are missing is the fact that devs are forced to use compression on the 360 to fit their games, but they don't have to use compression at all on PS3 games. So a 20gb PS3 game might be possible on the 360. BTW, DVD-9 is 8.54gb, not 7.5gb. So yeah, content wise, Blu-Ray wins. Are all PS3 devs using the advantage of Blu-Ray for content? Nope. Are the devs making exclusive games using it more than multiplat devs? In most cases, yes, but not all. Again, I point the finger at Bioshock, a game which was once a 360 exclusive. They've spent a year working on the PS3 version and there was no need to make the core gameplay or graphics any better than the 360 because they were already stellar. There was some extra CONTENT added though.

I just think this whole argument is moot. I think there should be more Gears quality games on the 360 and hopefully next year we will see that. You buy the systems to play the games. One system being better than the other is moot. People usually follow the good games and that's that. There are other good games on the 360 besides Gears Of War. There are also other good games on PS3 besides Metal Gear Solid 4. Somehow these two games keep coming up in everyone's debates. It's sad really.

Have a bubble Apocalypse.

[AuToFiRE]

Its nice to finally see devs are getting the hang of the playstation 3 architecture and its getting the recognition it deserves. With all playstation consoles it takes a while for people to fully utilize the new hardware but when they do it looks absolutely amazing, take the ps2 for instance, at the beginning there were 700meg discs and the graphics looked like ps1.5 and now they look like ps2.5. its the samr with the Playstation3, and with the 10 year lifecycle, imagine what the ps3 will be capable of in another 5 years

[ForROME]

SONY is beg and WILL whip A$$ we all know this, its not longer a matter of time its here apon us, its more of when will the onslaught be in full gear how about when GOWIII FF etc come out its sick the momentum thats starting 360s all across the country will cry and go RROD, sigh, I had 3 of them do it :tear:

[stuntman_mike]

well i want mine to make me a cup of tea, butter my toast, go and get the daily papers and get my weekly shopping and tidy my room?

it still hasn't yet the lazy bastard.

[The_Firestarter]

Can it finish all of my homework? :P

Honestly, we all knew the PS3 is capable of amazing things. It's no wonder each 1st party exclusive is breathtaking, respectively.

I can't say the same for some other games/devs. >.>

[arika]

ps3 can be a xbox 360...

ps3 can be a wii........

ps3 can be a pc(almost)

but all of them can't be a ps3, why?!

only ps3 plays games using bluray + cell processor technology.

so for now ps3 is the most powerful gaming system until a new challenger emerges.

[bozhangles]

here's my take on the situation..
a japanese dev will create the first true virtual sex sim on ps4.

[Droid]

...except produce Gears of War ONE visuals (no ram).

pooooor droids

[devilhunterx]

UT3 is already on the PS3. duh.

[THC CELL]

droid

Unreal 3 Looks better than gears of war so shut up

PS did u see the mod Spartan looks better on ps3 dont he

You would cry your eyes out if gears hit Ps3 What i hope it dont

Yawn ps3 is not unlocked yet it would be smart for sony to unlock the full console when P*SS box 720 comes out and then say IS that it

UNLOCK

[RAM MAGNUMS]

what do you mean "you people"?

Tropic thunder even has a skit about ps3. Check it out.

[pete2711]

There isn't a single post in here from any XBOX fan, Yet your all having ago at them!! Look at yourselves, Talk about the article don't just use every comment to slate XBOX your starting to embarress the original PS3 fanboys like myself who have got over the fact we won the console war and just enjoying the console!!

[GameDev]

a PS3 3 months after it launched, dumbass room is that way >>

[pete2711]

Well done, I pre-ordered and got it on launch, Same as i did for PS2, Wasn't into computers when PS1 came out, Kids in my day played outside with their mates, Unlike kids like you who sit in on thre jack jones an play computer games 24/7. If you were an adult then i'm sure you wouldn't be so pathetic, Dumb ass room is that way!?? Grow up!! What is it that makes me dumb anyway!! F**king sad mate you are!

[cmrbe]

That they are sying this because they are second party however its really hard to dismiss the fact that every 1st and 2nd Sony parties have nothing but praise about Sony either the hardware or their working relationship.

I firmly believe that the fact that Sony has invested alot in their first and 2nd parties titles this gen really has and will pay alot of dividen in the future for Sony which is great for us PS fans.

3rd parties support is important for a consoles success but 1st and 2nd parties is vital for a consoles survival.

[Daz]

What a a suprise a exclusive game for ps3 and his saying this who what of thought?

What happen to people that enjoyed games and didn't worry about graphics more then gameplay.

BY the i thing this game be fun as hell but heavy ran looks great plays crap in my eyes from what i have seen in videos.

[enjoi187]

it does...all i want it to do is play my blu-ray movies....indeed it does

[xg-ei8ht]

its got nothing to do with expense.

Alot of devs don't want their game looking better on console p because fans on console x who worse looking version might not buy the game. and to alienate customers is suicide.

[silverchode]

can i use it as a time machine?

[bdup46]

Get a life fanboys get out your living rooms or bedrooms and stop arguing about the development of ps3 games or the cell processors of a ps3 or xbox. I mean you wouldn't start talking about it in front of a hot girl now would you.

[sirbigam]

Yu can go somewere with yur ranting yu freackin troll, now go find yurself a corner and beat off till yur hands get numb , TROLL!!!!

[thehitman]

If you are can i get your number if not then we can talk about it all we want.

[zo6_lover27]

I could have owned DROID, and Jack who so f***ing bad.
I'm PISSED!!!!!!

If anybody still wants me too just tell me

:)

[Tone]

A lot of you have not the faintest idea what you are actually talking about *sigh*

Get your facts straight before opening your mouth and also take it to the open zone (thats what its there for)

[Tone]

wow.. some of you are talking about your console like it was your girlfriend :|

Get a life, get out and pick up a real woman.... how very sad it is to read some of these comments!!

I have made Mr No Life badges for the guilty (you know who you are) :P

[pete2711]

You sat there an read all the comments then called us sad?? lol I think it's you that might need the girlfriend mate, Unless your 10 or summit, If so the GTF OUTSIDE an play football or something, Fukin Geek.

[vdesai]

I think it would be more respectful to talk to them using their name. Suker Punch.

[Jessewb]

here you wanted something crisp and good quality.

Take a fine look.

hey...rofl

[jrsenkbe]

Its so funny!! When the PS3 first hit stores no one could say a good thing about it and eveything was great for the 360 and Wii. Now its all about the PS3. The 360 now is surrounded dby bad pub and the Wii is not considered a real gaming machine by real gamers. Over the next 6 months the PS3 will show its dominance and why its here to stay for long term and playstation owners dont need to worry about shelling out more money in a couple years like wii and 360 owners will to just catch up to the competition.