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Can We Finally Admit Fallout 4 Was A Let Down?

It's timed to stop forgiving Bethesda for the sins of Fallout 4.

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2788d ago
KiwiViper852788d ago

Written by a Sony fan... Fallout 4 is dumb, we didn't want mods anyway, thanks Sony.

Ashlen2788d ago

The article doesn't even talk about mods.

I play FO4 on PC and I would say many aspects of the game are a letdown. Particularly the story telling and the fact the game shoehorns you into a role instead of letting you create your persona. And it's hardly like this is the first person to say the game was a letdown. I'm fairly certain the majority of people feels like this is the weakest of the Fallout Games with New Vegas being the strongest. (of the 3d Fallouts)

EmperorDalek2787d ago

I still reckon New Vegas sucked, such a generic world.

kneon2787d ago

The storytelling in Fallout games is always poor, I don't think Fallout 4 was that much worse than the others in that respect.

Though it is the only Fallout game I never bothered to finish, I just don't care how it ends.

kreate2787d ago

nothing beats fallout 3 for me

Vegamyster2786d ago

I prefer Fallout 3 over Vegas mainly because the world is more interesting to explore and i liked the DLC more, Vegas had a lot more choice in its story but a lot of those choices involved lots of fetch quests & back tracking.

Kurt Russell2786d ago

Agreed. I also found exploration and side missions really flat in fallout 4. I've always enjoyed the series more for the exploration that the main campaign, this one was not so good. Maybe Witcher 3 ruined me by raising that bar.

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Zorkaz2787d ago

Woah! Dammit that's basically it's redeeming feature! Though I will have to agree that I did get bored quickly. I dunno what is was, it just somehow never ... ticked right. Wasn't engaging enough.

mark_parch2787d ago

fallout 4 is an amazing game and is even better with mods

Utalkin2me2787d ago

@KiwiViper85

Thats funny, cause what i read said not a word about mods. Thats reported as spam.

sullynathan2787d ago

If you believe Sony fans are the only ones that don't like fallout 4,what we're you doing last year when it was compared to TW3?

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sho0ok2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

Lol yeah, seems like it.

A game that has been lunched a year ago and was well received by gamers all over the world. As soon as Sony announced no MODs on PS from fallout, this game become no so good lol.

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Lightning Mr Bubbles2788d ago

Yes. It was a bit of a letdown. Not a bad game, but just for it being fallout and how brilliant fallout 3 was I expected more.

yezz2787d ago

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Bansai2787d ago

New Vegas is light years better than Fallout 3 in my opinion. As for Fallout 4, yes, it was a disappointment, especially the dialogues and story, but I still somehow popped that platinum trophy. Probably because there were no other games in that time.

Erik73572787d ago (Edited 2787d ago )

pipboy was amazing, combat is sure to be a staple in the future fallout series, menus were well designed because all icons were animated, crafting is also sure to be a standard for other fallout games, the dialogue system was flawed in some areas, but did greatly improve the cinematic compared to the last fallout games.Power armor was way cooler to have and followers we're better.

It may not be as good some areas compared to other fallout games but I wouldn't call it "disappointing" because it brings a lot to the table that I assure you future fallout games will carry on.

TimeSkipLuffy2787d ago

In my opinion Fallout 3 is far better. Vegas was nice but I didn't got attached to the chars and my own char as much as I did with F3

JamesBroski2787d ago

I personally prefer F3 to New Vegas (probably because it was all new and the wasteland was so fun to explore), but I really hope that Obsidian are going to work on another Fallout game with proper story and DLC this time.

Armaggedon2787d ago

Im not sure why the dialogues are so shunned when is basically a very similar formula used by almost every major rpg , including mass effect, dragon age, deus ex, witcher, etc. It is very si ilar, yet people seem to hate it. Strange.

Rachel_Alucard2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

@armageddon

Did any of those games limit you to 4 options and railroad you to saying yes even when you say no?

There's a copypasta joke comparing dialogue systems that gets plastered all over the steam page for this game

A baby is drowning in the lake

Fallout 1:

Ask for more information

Agree to help

Decide not to help

Accidentally say something that pisses the NPC off, failing the quest

Reveal too much information about yourself; causing Super Mutants to track your vault more easily

Fallout 2:

Ask for more information

Agree to help

Decide not to help

Accidentally say something that pisses the NPC off, failing the quest

Pop culture reference about the baby

Fallout 3:

Yes, I will save the baby

Depends on the caps

I will not save the baby

[Intelligence] The baby is drowning

Fallout New Vegas:

I will save the baby

I will not save the baby

[Barter 30] Double the caps, and I'll save the baby

[Medicine 30] Thanks to my medical knowledge, I will easily be able to save the baby

[Survival 15/30] Uh... yeah; I totally know how to swim

Fallout 4:

Yes

No (Yes)

Sarcastic (Yes)

Maybe (Yes)

babadivad2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

I liked New Vegas as well. It was funny and well written. But the main reason I liked it is because there are monsters that could actually kill you. And death claws were TERRIFYING. On fallout 4[and 3] you could just tank anything. I have no fear of any monsters on this game. Even at level 10 I would walk through a sea of Deathclaws and mirelurks with no fear of death. It was so easy I had to turn the difficulty all the way up to survival[old] but still couln't be touched.

On New Vegas, Deathclaws had the ability to negate the damage protection of your armor. So if you got in a fight with 3 death claws, if you couldn't escape, you were likely going to die. It kinda made it seem like the waste land was actually a tough place to survive in.

I hope the Obsidian does another New Vegas type game. I like the upgrades done to Fallout menu system and storage containers. Just needs a better tuning. I think Obsidian is up to that task.

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JamesBroski2787d ago

Same here. And when I bought the season pass before the price increase, I was hoping to see quality DLC like Fallout 3 and New Vegas that would make the game even bigger and better, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Erik73572786d ago

Fallout 3 dlc > new vegas dlc

Paytaa2787d ago

The problem with Fallout 4 was the lack of role-playing elements and the god awful dialogue system. It should have built on the formula Obsidian crafted with New Vegas instead of streamlining the Fallout 3 one to just an open world shooter.

New Vegas had the writing, interesting questlines, great expansions, weapon variety, characters, and overall felt like a legit role playing game.

Fallout 4 is a great game, just not a great Fallout game. Won't lie that the hype didn't blind me.

Armaggedon2787d ago

I couldnt even start playing new Vegas some reason.

LAWSON722786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

Yeah, the formula of NV is a copy and paste of 3 just a little more refined, however far less original

3 had okay writing (so did new vegas nothing to write home about), interesting questlines, fantastic expansions (IMO maybe the best), weapon variety, characters, and felt like a role playing game like other Bethesda games before it.

immabadguy2786d ago

To call New Vegas a "copy and paste" of Fallout 3 is absolutely absurd. If you played New Vegas and compared it to Fallout 3, you would notice vast improvements in pretty much all areas of the game, esecially the vastly fleshed out storytelling, rpg elements, and player choice. I understand that Fallout 3 was many peoples first Fallout, which would make it their favorite, however to say New Vegas is a copy and paste and far less original than Fallout 3 is quite far fetched.

Dasteru2787d ago

No. As someone who had beaten Fallout 3 and New Vegas 15+ times each. Fallout 4 was my favorite. Yeah it dumbed down certain aspects, but not to a boring extent. The gameplay in general was an improvement imo. Also the complete removal of a level cap is awesome.

Ashlen2787d ago

Removing the level cap is fine except for the fact that they made stats pointless especially starting stats. On top of that there is little progression, have 10 in stats just pick the final skill not that anyone would do that because they basically put all the useful skills at the top of the tree anyways.

If anything the leveling is the least interesting of the games, there is no real need to have a build or plan anything out.

Armaggedon2787d ago

Its simple, dont level up skils after a certain point. Just takes a bit of restraint

Bigpappy2787d ago (Edited 2787d ago )

I am at level 58 and built the intercepter . I find that most of us, who just emerged ourselves into the world and focused on taking care of those in the waste land, enjoyed the building and the relationshipsecond we got to develop. There are many things that I have done that felt very rewarding.
I don't want to give any spoiler's, but this game goes way deeper into the roles of groups like the brotherhood. I discovered everything on my own (no tips or cheats ). Things like finding the path to the railroad and decoding the chip were not too difficult but still rewarding.
The only expansion I have used , so far, is the Robot DLC. It has made the world more interesting and Cosworth is far more deadly since I upgraded him.

This game can be played for a much longer time than previous Fallout games. It has more content even without the DLC, and there are more RPG options.

Elwenil2787d ago

I am currently at level 101 and have played all the DLC except for Nuka World which I have only just started. I played Fallout 3 all the way through several times and enjoyed just doing the beginning and going out and exploring even after that. I never enjoyed New Vegas. I tried to play it 5 or 6 times and never got very far into it. It just seemed very tedious and never held my attention.

Fallout 4 I have enjoyed a lot. I know a lot of people disliked the building features but I had a great time building defenses for my settlements. I did really hate the repetitive missions from The Minutemen, but disconnecting their radio tower and avoiding Sanctuary solved that for the most part. I liked the upgrade system and some of the new options there and while companions can be as big of a con as they are a pro, They, like a lot of the other controversial features of the game, are completely optional except for a few missions here and there.

At the end of the day I bought Fallout 4 and the Season Pass on release and I feel like I definitely got my money's worth. I am very disappointed about the mods for PS4, but will probably eventually pick the game up on Steam for PC once it's cheap. At level 101, I've spent a lot of time with Fallout 4 with my first playthrough and I am looking forward to playing through several more times with the different factions and endings. Compared to a lot of games at the same price point, it's been a great value and one of the highlights of this gen for me.

Bigpappy2786d ago

Thanks Elwenil. I find that many people play Bethesda RPG''s because they hear others praising the game. The they start playing that the gamesame do not take you down the road at 150 mph. These games are for exploring, learning and deciding what you want to do and when. You choose how much and what you want to focus on. They have they own type of RPG''s which are NOT for everyone.
My advice to those who can't stand the slow and "boring " pace of these games or how they had left story telling, is to stick to the Witcher, Damon Souls, Final Fantasy... or whatever type of RPG you prefer.
Those are all good games, but for some reason Bethesda games keep growing there fan base

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How To Solve Fallout 4 Next-Gen Update Performance Issue On OLED Steam Deck

Despite being verified for the Steam Deck, Fallout 4 has issues running on the OLED version of Valve's handheld device. Here's how it works.

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Firebird3601d 13h ago

Isn't this a better and easier work around?...

There is a partial workaround that adds the Fallout 4 launcher back  ;to the Steam Deck version of the game. Players need to add “SteamDeck=0 %command%” to Fallout 4’s launch options in the game’s settings on Steam Deck. But it’s wild and not great that players have to do this just to change visual settings while playing on Valve’s portable PC.

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Fallout 4 next-gen upgrade woes continue for some PS Plus users

Some PS Plus subscribers can now access the next-gen version of Fallout 4 after Bethesda addressed concerns on Thursday, but others have still been left in the cold.

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gold_drake2d ago

yup, worked for me a few hours ago

MrDead2d ago

This update on PC kills mods, they still didn't improve or fix the draw calls and if you have an RTX card the game still crashes unless you turn off debris.
So if you mod the game it now looks worse, plays worse, all of your saves are broken and the game breaking bugs are still present.

purple1012d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Good work detective

Bethesda strikes again, always thought their games were a tad boring anyway, this was even before Microsoft brought them. Used to quake 3 team arena to death, on an old pc, at the time it was new, fresh, fast paced and innovative, their games these days, are none-of-the-above

Michiel19891d 15h ago

Ever heard of a game called Doom or Wolfenstein, detective?
Also quake 3 arena was made by ID, which at the time wasn't part of Bethesda.

Profchaos1d 18h ago

Yeah I've had friends rebuy the game because the ps plus didn't work and they used to own the last gen version sold off the physical after the PS plus pack included fallout when they got the ps5.

So overall I know ms has likely warned quote a bit from this error.

Barlos1d 10h ago

This game hasn't aged well. I was really looking forward to the update, but I'm just not enjoying it. I never did get on with the settlement building and raiders, and I still don't. I won't be going back to this now.

mkis0071d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Settlement stuff was way undercooked. Too many settlements and QOL updates are needed, and can only be added by mods...which disable achievements. The game does 2 things better than past games: Gunplay and scavenging.

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Have to agree settlement stuff was boring and dull but I loved the game outside of that still do. But next to other games is it's era like witcher 3 it always felt a little stuck in the mid 2000s

anast1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

They aren't really missing much. I've been playing it for awhile and it's just a polished turd. Low effort, hyped up like a full release.

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Fallout 4 Next-Gen Update Has A Bugged Out Quality Mode On Xbox Series X|S

The next-gen update for Bethesda Game Studios' Fallout 4 currently has a bugged out Quality mode on Xbox Series X|S.

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anast2d ago

Ha! They messed up the Xbox upgrade.

GamerRN1d 22h ago

It's not messed up. This mode runs 60fps 1440p with ultra settings. If you want to see the other modes, disable 1440p somehow.

anast1d 5h ago

The S doesn't have ultra settings.

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They have and they haven't just download 60fps and ultra setting mod and gane looks great

attilayavuzer1d 23h ago

Guess we're stuck with 60fps

GamerRN1d 22h ago

And Ultra Settings ... @1440p. It's working as expected. There is a star that states in the patch notes that if 1440p is available, quality mode will stay in 60fps 1440p with ultra settings.

Barlos1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Surely not! Bugs with something from Bethesda? Get outta here!

Father__Merrin1d 11h ago

I noticed that performance mode on or off both 60fps which is best mode to use then?

BeRich2331d 11h ago

"On" does seem to perform better too me.

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