Masterpieces of Gaming: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

Dash Bomber writes, "Metal Gear Solid V released last year to thunderous applause. It was the anxiously awaited sequel to the movie Metal Gear Solid 4 which boasted an incredible amount of cinematics. Because of this fact, I did not share the same enthusiasm as my fellow gamers did. But, Metal Gear Solid V completely changed my opinion on this matter. The Phantom Pain deserves every accolade it received and aside from the controversial fan service (and overly long intro) it is a masterpiece."

[Cy]

It was unfinished. Like, that right there is enough to disqualify it as being a "masterpiece" without even getting into the total betrayal it was story and story presentation wise to the MGS series as a whole.

[AnotherProGamer]

I agree its not a masterpeice because of a bunch of aspects of the game but there can be masterpieces that are unfinished like Shadow of the colossus

99% of all games are unfinished and have tons of unfinished mechanics, levels, characters, etc in their data files

[_-EDMIX-_]

By default Metal Gear Solid 5 is the longest Metal Gear Solid they've ever created I'm sorry but people's subjective opinions on "finished" are a bit silly as it sounds like they're purely basing this on what they thought or wanted the ending to be as opposed to what the game was offering.

I've beaten most of the Metal Gear Solid games the first time around around 22, 23 hours, it took me around 100 hours to beat Metal Gear Solid 5.

I still like the other Metal Gear Solid but I love what I played with Metal Gear Solid 5 for more than what I played from every Metal Gear Solid they've ever released by default 5 is better in regards to Gameplay yes the story could have been better but I'm primarily not picking up again merely to hear a story that is a prequel to the entire Series in which we already know the outcome.

Whenever I hear people say a game is unfinished I always have to question , how could you stay that something is unfinished in which you've never actually developed or worked one?

So how long was Metal Gear Solid 5 really supposed to be? How are you even defining this? As a person that's played the entire series to say Metal Gear Solid 5 is unfinished seriously is the most entitled thing I've ever heard a gamer say , what other Metal Gear Solid is over 100 hours long?

I know those that have even beat it in around 50 to 60 hours in that still by default longer than every other title in the series.

You may not like the story or how it ended but please dear God stop proclaiming something is unfinished in which is by default longer than any other in the series it seriously makes no sense especially considering no one on here has worked on the game to make such a claim.

I don't care for the story or its ending and I believe that is completely false...

[Cy]

It was missing an entire chapter. The last chapter of the game was a rushed mess. They released an unfinished version of a mission they couldn't get done in time for the game's launch. You can say you enjoyed the gameplay despite the story shortcomings, but the game is factually incomplete; that can't be argued.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@cy- nope.

Call me when you've joined the original team and can confirm it was coming in the game.

It's 60 hours vs 20.

Soooo it should have been 300 hours originally? Based on what evidence presented by Konami?

Lol

Sounds like wishful thinking with no real, factual proof, just salty assumptions

MGS4 was "unfinished".....

There was supposed to be more, because I said so......

See, I can make fake unproven claims too bud.

[sdcard4gb]

Nope.
Unfinished fetch-quest with missing features and unfinished story is a masterpiece now ?
Good stealth game ? Perhaps.
Good overall MGS game with interesting narrative ? Nope.

[PaleMoonDeath]

Best intro ever, Worst ending ever.

Most confused MGS game out of the bunch, fun as hell but certainly isn't up there with any of the previous games plot or characters. Not a masterpiece sadly. MGS1, 3 and PW are.

[nevin1]

Just MGS1 is a masterpiece.

MGS5 is all over the place but gameplay is good.

[PaleMoonDeath]

Yup!

[Chaos_Order]

Masterpiece? I strongly disagree. I wouldn't even call it a good game. 6/10 I'd say. It has some great moments, and the core mechanics are impeccable, but overall it felt soulless and bland. MGS 1-4 are some of my favourite games of all time, but TPP is just "some game."

And for anyone who pulls the ridiculous "you just have nostalgia goggles on" card, I played Peace Walker for the first time only a FEW MONTHS before I played TPP, and I enjoyed it considerably more. I also played Ground Zeros only ONE WEEK before playing TPP, and enjoyed it considerably more. (The level design in GZ was far beyond TPP, as was the tense story moments) But sure. I'm just "addled with nostalgia." *eye roll*

[EazyC]

Replayed MGS 4 recently. That game is phenomenal. I know it was divisive but wow, the effort and passion is undeniable. It also dually made me hate MGS V even more.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I like Metal Gear Solid 4 story better than 5 But Metal Gear Solid 4 as a game technically will always be lesser than 5, you're talking about a 20-hour a game in which 8 hours is literally videos.......

So yeah I'd rather actually physically Play 60 hours of Metal Gear Solid 5 then just 10 hours of Metal Gear Solid 4 it seems to me that you're more interested in watching a movie then playing a game....

[Cy]

@EDMIX

There are a hundred of 50+ hour long open world games out there. That's not what MGS is. That's not what most MGS fans want out of an MGS game. We want the 30 minute cutscenes. MGSV gave us audio logs and a nearly mute Snake. MGSV was a *terrible* MGS game.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@cy- you do not speak for All Metal Gear Solid fans....

So have 8 hours of cutscenes out of 20 hours of a game? Most want a movie vs a game? Ummmm ok.

Every Metal Gear Solid also gave codac audio logs you're technically talking about the same thing lol

So it should have had less gameplay and more videos?

You watching or playing this game? O_o?

[Chaos_Order]

@EDMIX

MGSV is big, yes. But MGS4 packed in more excitement and awesome moments in a couple hours than I could manage to squeeze out of the entire 35-40 hours I spent with MGSV. Just padding, padding, padding. Even though I didn't tackle a single side mission the game felt bloated and padded to all hell. I couldn't even bring myself to finish it, I was so bored.

[theshredded]

Most perfect game I've ever played! Gameplay is a 10/10

[BrianOBlivion]

I wouldn't say the "most perfect", but I do very much consider it a masterpiece. I've been gaming for almost 40 years and it's amongst my dozen favourite games of all time. I played it for several hours every day for a couple of months straight.

[NotanotherReboot]

Puts all the other MGS games to shame

[lociefer]

gameplay was good , story was utter garbage, just dont open this door again, let it fade away

[dorron]

Playing it right now. Gameplay mechanics are the best of the series, but the story feels diluted in this mission driven style. My main concern with this game is that is not that story tight as the other MGS installments.

Actually, I think the mission divided gameplay hurts the game. It might be suitable for a PSP game like Peace Walker but not for a home console MGS.

[Kornholic]

What? Metal Gear Solid V suffers from the same problems as Destiny. Repetitive missions, almost non-existent story. Destiny's and MGSV's gameplay and graphics are top notch, though. Masterpiece, my ass.