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Saints Row is Dead and Volition and Deep Silver Have Killed it

It’s a real shame that Volition had lost faith in its original IP as Saints Row, as GTA-like as some might have you believe it to be, was a truly unique gaming experience.

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-Foxtrot2823d ago

The funny thing about Saints Row is that when the sequel came out it was, at the time, facing GTA4...yet in my opinion I felt like Saints Row 2 give me a better GTA experience then GTA4.

It was a perfect blend of an open world game that knew when it had to be serious and not go too far over the top.

Yet despite this they threw it all away with Saints Row 3

hiredhelp2823d ago

Mr fox I said simular when the game first come out,For me I loved the whole gangs working with you help you out while attacking other gangs as well as offering you all the open level design like GTA Series untill saints row 3 and onwords what happened such a huge change.
Put me off made me frankly disapointed to me they killed what could been great franchise.
(Just my opinion)

Cy2822d ago

Definitely. I always thought the Saint's Row series took the GTA formula and perfected it. Until SR3 and 4, which were piles of crap that focused way too much on "lol so random" humor and got rid of 2s excellent character creator.

sullynathan2822d ago

They perfected nothing. Gta V is the closest to perfecting the formula

IceKoldKilla2822d ago

No way is or was Saints Row better than GTA overall. GTA San Andreas to this day is one of my favorite games. I have owned it on all systems. PS2 (back in the day and rebought to play on my PS3 60GB), Xbox (to play on Xbox 360), PC (for mods when it cost 20€), Android (just to try it), PS3 Android port (HD) and now on PS4. GTA V though has become better in many ways. The mechanics, graphics, story telling (although the early 90s setting in the West Coast can't be beat), amount of vehicles, customization, GTA Online (although making it hard to earn money sucks!), etc. SR was dope and good when bored of GTA but it was too cartoon, HORRIBLE mechanics especially in cars and pointless after a while.

MyDietEqualsGames2822d ago

SR IV was the sizzling shizzle. I had so much fun on it, on Steam. Man. *looks up into the sky while reminiscing*

Nitrowolf22822d ago

That's the issue with the series

I thought the first two were decent but I enjoy them a lot more for at least having a serious tone

They really took that whole GTA 4 feedback that people hated about the game with it not having some crazy silly fun.

That's why I really couldn't get into the new one at all because it was just way too over-the-top they went too far with it in my opinion

RandomGamer2822d ago

I agree , Saints Row 2 was amazing . Then they just went pointlessly over the top over the next few games and ruined it .

neutralgamer19922822d ago

Could not agree more fox

Saints row 1 was good
Saints row 2 was great

Saints row 2 reminded us of old gen gta games like gta 3,vc and sa

I don't know why they felt the need to totally throw all that away with future saints row games

It had potential
It actually sold well

I would love to get a proper saints row game more in line with saints row 2 with bigger open world, bugger story with comedy and seriousness mixed up

No Way2822d ago

I personally didn't care for the "wonky" atmosphere the later games started to obtain. I, however, loved the first two games.. they were pretty damn good. I'm still waiting for a game that plays like Saints Row (or, GTA/Mafia) and has mechanics like the old PC game "Gangsters: Organized Crime." Like, when is that going to happen.. =/

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ChickeyCantor2822d ago

> Yet despite this they threw it all away with Saints Row 3

Because there was no point in competing with GTA with a serious narrative.

ape0072821d ago (Edited 2821d ago )

i loved sr1 and sr2 a lot but let's get serious , against GTA IV, they felt cheap and generic and ps2 like experience, sr2 was heaps fun don't get me wrong but it was GTA IV and its legendary nextgen leap that made volition go crazy, they were like "there's no way we can touch that level of quality,,,,,,.... plan B, let's make it wacky and crazy" and they did, SR 3 was good overall but not as good as SR1 or SR2 and didn't buy SR4 since it's basically a saints row 3 Mod, downloaded the PSN plus free SR4 DLC and it sucked bad :(, johnny gat u were the man in SR1 and 2

Volition is a pretty damn good company, Red faction 1 on PS2 was fantastic, so was SR1 and SR2.......what happened to them??

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FlyingFoxy2823d ago

SR1 was decent but it lacked some things already in GTA.

I personally think GTA Vice City and San Andreas are the most fun in the genre. SR went from kinda half serious to plain over the top, the problem with over the top is that it can become boring a little quickly IMO.

Like another review site mentioned it was like having cheats enabled almost through the entire game of SR 4, not to say it's a bad game.. it's decent, but i think it loses a sense of challenge a bit when you get all kinds of super powers and stuff like that.

These games need a fine balance between fun and realism, too realistic = no fun, too over the top = becomes boring quickly. Just my opinion, of course.

SarcasticDuck2822d ago

yup, another example of "too over the top" is Deadpool (the game) (although the gamepley was also a big boring factor in deadpool)

Cy2822d ago

Saint's Row 2 was better than any GTA game except maybe 5. I wish they would HD remaster it for current gen consoles.

ninjazfistz2822d ago (Edited 2822d ago )

Agree wholeheartedly.

Get the PC version on GOG or Steam until then maybe?

mezati992822d ago

no matter what stay the f*** away from the PC version, one of, if not The worst port ever made

and lol at saying SR is even in the same league as GTA

ninjazfistz2822d ago

@mezati99

So you must enjoy the really awesome console version better LOL. There is no comparison. I have owned the ps3 version when it was free for ps plus and its weak to put it nicely.

PFFT2821d ago (Edited 2821d ago )

I highly agree! SR did stuff that GTA could barely dream of. SR raised the bar. Its a shame what they have done with this amazing series.

ape0072821d ago

LMAO SR is generic and shallow compared to any gta game.......yes SR1 and SR2 were good but compared to the legendary gta it's generic and shallow, no game has the amazing feel of the gameplay or environment than GTA, that what makes it legendary

MyDietEqualsGames2821d ago

Was better than GTAIV, at least to me. GTAV is just a masterpiece, though. It's probably the greatest open world game with tons of legit and unique things to do of any game I have ever played.

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ThunderPulse2822d ago

SR4 was an awesome game but the DLC was meh.

ChrisW2822d ago

SR4 was nothing but a full-priced expansion of SR3. It should have been SR3 DLC.

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername3h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake2h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

Barlos31m ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CrashMania3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz2h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

Hofstaderman1h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

Relientk771h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

Charal1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast46m ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

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Would It Have Even Mattered If Redfall Were Good?

Even if Redfall were a good game, the closure of Hi-Fi Rush proves even that doesn't matter in the industry.

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Profchaos12h ago

Yeah it would have mattered especially since their huge game that year wasn't all that it was cracked up to be remember redfail was almost heavily promoted and hyped not to the level of starfield but still more promoted than the average game.

There was still a decent marketing campaign behind the game I'm sure millions were spent advertising it on websites and I saw a few billboards and bus stop signs in real life

jwillj2k412h ago

No it wouldn’t matter it wouldn’t bring in enough profit to offset their 100 billion dollar acquisition. It would maybe delay the inevitable by some months.

Profchaos3h ago

Pretty much no game in Bethesda stables makes cod numbers instantly even fallout 4 Bethesda's best selling game sold 12 million at launch and over the next 10 years climbed to over 32 which cod would do rapidly

CrimsonWing6911h ago

I would f*cking think so. Good games are what draws people to your platform. It’s why I adored the 360 era with Gears of War being one of the highlights for me. You make sh*t games and it just makes your platform that much worse and you start gobbling up studios I like and then killing them off it also makes me hate your platform as well… just sayin’

franwex11h ago

Unless the game would’ve been War Zone, or Fortnite level. No. Maybe even Hell divers 2 I doubt would’ve been enough.

Exvalos11h ago

No it would not have, the ABK deal was great for Microsoft but horrible for Xbox. Over 100 billion dollars in acquisitions. That money has to be made back. That ABK deal essentially destroyed Xbox as we know it.

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai1d 6h ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga21h ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

ravens521d 1h ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_20h ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

KwietStorm_BLM20h ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

mudakoshaka4h ago

Nerds think they are Gods when they are making video games.

NotoriousWhiz1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_20h ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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