Star Ocean The Last Hope an Xbox 360 exclusive?

PlayStation 3 owners were hoping Star Ocean: The Last Hope might be an Xbox 360 timed exclusive, but according to the manual that came with Infinite Undiscovery, the game will only be released on the Xbox 360.

[Omega4]

The likely hood of this going to the PS3 is the same as FFvsXIII going to the 360

Nomura loves the the PS3 while Tri-ace loves the 360 but Square Enix love making money so dont expect them to stay exclusive for long

[VsAssassin]

Well Nomura loves the Sony brand, that I can imagine why VsXIII might not be released to the 360. But Tri-ace has been cradled by Sony even in the very beginning of the psone, what gives them the reason not to love the PS3?

[Omega4]

Well if you want to talk about the past then, what about SE taking the FF franchise away from nintedo the console what saw its birth.

Times change and so do peoples opinions on consoles and since tri-ace is making 2 exclusive 360 games i think its say to say they've moved on from Sony just like SE did with Nintendo

[Dark General]

Just putting this out there. But why would they say it was coming to the competitions console in the manual of a 360 exclusive game? Not to mention that it's been only announced for 360 so far. Just saying man, these companies are in it to make $ and putting their game on both consoles probably nets them more cash.

[Dark General]

It's funny you say that because i can't stand JRPG's (and i'm not big on FPS's either). RPG's don't appeal to me in general (Oblivion, KOTOR, FF etc). I could care less if Star Ocean ended up on the Ps3. I just think that this particular title will eventually come to Ps3. Hell i never even had a Ps1 and my favorite system of all time is the Dreamcast (criminally under rated system).

edit: I actually love the Dreamcast controller. The triggers was awesome, the dpad was good and it had good button layouts and wasn't too heavy. I disliked that i had to buy the rumble pack and VMU but even those were pretty cool. The Xbox and 360 controller reminds me alot of the Dreamcast controller in fact. Sony and Sega teaming up would have probably been good but i do miss the quirky titles the dreamcast had. So many obscure but good titles. Games like those aren't made anymore unfortunately, too big of a risk for game companies now a days.

[thereapersson]

Criminally underrated, you are damn right about that. The controller, on the other hand sucked ASS.

If only Sega and Sony would have teamed up together, instead of working against one another, we could have had the best of both worlds.

[La Chance]

To be honest since its a 3rd party dev there isnt 100% it will stay an exclusive.

I really thought FF13 going multiplat would put an end to the "BUT THEY SAID ITS AN EXCLUSIVE" argument when it comes to 3rd party exclusives no matter if its a PS3 or 360 exclusive.

The same people in here saying that SO4 will come to PS3 are the very same ones saying that FFversus will never come to 360.Wheres the logic ?

[CrazzyMan]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Wnzvd...

Enchanted Arms and Dead Rising - ONLY on x360 - http://farm3.static.flickr....

Anyway, you are FREE to believe, whatever makes you happy. =)
But soon or later, it will be hard for Japanese developers ignore PS3 userbase in Japan.

EDIT: For those who disagree, what`s up? =)) You disgaree with FACTS, or this hurts your feelings that much, that you can`t stand these FACTS? =)) Well, you can disagree as much as you want, THIS won`t change the Reality. =)))

[gaffyh]

Why don't we wait and see how much both games (IU and SO4) sell? I'm pretty sure that if they don't sell too well, Tri-Ace will seriously consider putting the games on PS3. Unless MS paid them for an exclusivity contract.

[UltimateIdiot911]

The reason FF shifted to PS1 was because of the cartridge size limitation not because Squaresoft decided to go where the money flow. Back then, Squaresoft had progress in mind. Now that's SE, it has money in mind.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

You guys know this has nothing to do with love but with development costs or are you all just that pathetic? tri-Ace has been with Sony for years, not because of love too, but because Sony have leaded the market (MORE MONEY), so has they been with Ninty on portable gaming.

In Japan, those actual crap (sorry, not my cup opf tea) SRPGs on PS3 sell BETTER than real JRPG on 360. It's pretty obvious that other than MS payola or high development costs on PS3 (which is more likely for Star Ocean, since 3rd one was not a selling success, Square would not totally fund them for PS3 high costs, nor would MS for a exclusive that won't sell that much) there isn't much reason to stay away from PS3 in the land of rising sun if you like money and if you can stand costs.

Maybe they can't do a PS3 version now, maybe they'll never do one because of cost, I don't know, but for sure this has nothing to do with "love"... ¬¬'

[power of Green]

LOL at all this speculation, the devs said no PS3 version is planned they said they would possibly talk about it later on.

All this false hope because the dude added his opinion with the supposed proof this is a 360 exclusive.

[theKiller]

well i think its is the last JRPG exclusive coming from 3rd party Devs!!
by the time of the release of SO4 the install base of ps3 will be more than 360 and the attached rate will be higher also because its not hacked system like 360!

[theKiller]

than 360 exclusives since its the weaker system!!

i mean MGS4 cant be done the way its done on 360, yes it is possible to make a port but it will lack in many many things of ps3 version!

same will be for FFv13, about FF13 well we r still to see the port to the 360, we cant judge it from now but if SE wanted to make FF13 a good game and make a lot of money from it they should use a lot of ps3 features like BLUE RAY and cells, so if they do that i think they will have trouble with the 360 version, but i guess 360 fans will be still happy with dumped down version of FF13 but strangely they r shooter fans!!!

any way FF13 and v13 both build on the white engine which is designed to make games on both ps3 and 360, so i wont be surprised if they end up on 360, but it will be the dumped versions!! i mean come on how can a 50GB games be released of 360 DVD9?? not even 4 DVDs can take it! they will need more like 6 DVD, which i never saw a game with that many DVDs, simple its not efficient for either MS or square enix!!

unfinite undiscovery suppose to be THE game that will move japanese market but it failed, tales of xxxxx also supposed to make a huge difference and it did for only 1 week, star ocean will do it for a week or 2 then the same, FF will not do it because its exclusive for ps3 in japan and in the world its attached more to playstation than xbox!! so it will make most effect on ps3, and by the time it arrives to ps3 the install base will be equal or surpassed the 360 one!

[MNicholas]

The developers know that this will not sell well on the 360. It's been proven time and again that 360 owners have no interest whatsoever in such games.

That's why Microsoft paid off the developer to prevent this and other similar titles from being available on other consoles.

[AAACE5]

A lot of people made some very interesting points which were great... and then some people made the same old fanboy comments you would expect on here.

But Crazzyman... I understand your love for the Ps3, but in japan, 360 is at like 700K-800K, Ps3 is at 2-3 million. But the Wii, DS and PSP are the major sellers which garner all the attention in japan. Ps3 is a great system, but alot of developers seem like they are stuck making games that are low cost with graphics a bit better than Ps2's.

Ps3 will take off the way you said... but it probably won't happen until the smaller developers can afford to make the kinds of games you would expect on a system as powerful as Ps3!

[VsAssassin]

Nothing... I can't even begin to think of the words I want to say.

[Fishy Fingers]

"confirmed" and then they proceed to contradict their evidence.

[kazuma]

yeah, that was awesome lol

[Idonthatejustcreate]

We just have to accept that in Japan buissness comes first and foremost. Who cares if your fans have to buy a console for hundreds of dollars just to pay an extra buck for that game they've been playing and following for years.

ugh...

[leyego]

lol your funny
no matter how good the xbox gets, no matter how many of my fav jrpgs go to it only, no matter what happens, id wont buy the 360.
UNLESS
1) its cheap as hell, 199 for a GOOD console not the craptastic arcade ver.
and 2) the most important, theres a modchip for it.
(props to MS for including the 360 with an outdate DVD player)

theres no way im going to buy old software at 29.99 each when i can get a modchip for 100 bucks and get every game i want free. ya im looking at u lost odyssey, halo 3, fable 2, star ocean and every other AAA game that comes out for the xbox.

[SkyGamer]

It is people like you why video games are so expensive in the first place. Windows would only cost 20 bucks if NO ONE pirated it. If everyone legitly paid for software, prices wouldn't be that ridiculous.

[Jandre02]

They can mess around worth no name JRPG's like LO and Infinite Undiscovery, but Star Ocean is too big of an RPG to blow on the 360 since the 360 doesn't move RPGs.

I would say behind Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts, this is squares biggest RPG and if it was only on the 360 they could kiss any chance of over 200,000 sales of this game goodbye in Japan, while they would receive nearly 1,000,000 just by releasing it on the PS3 in that region.

[Fox01]

they probably thought about that... But Microsoft gave them a check to cover their loss.

Microsoft is really doing a great this gen; without this tactic, 360 (only) owners would've never dreamed of playing games like FFXIII, GTA IV... Keep it up Microsoft. I guess this is one of the reasons we're paying for LIVE.

[Jandre02]

Covering sales of this game on the PS3 while covering more damage to Sony and Squares relationship AND causing a rift between them and Japanese gamers yet again?

LOL. Yeah, I think Microsoft would be paying at least 40 million to get this game exclusive.

Putting it on the Xbox360 exclusively is like signing the game away to death. Not one JRPG has broken 1,000,000 WW yet. Its pathetic.

That happens only for crappy IPs like I said, never the good ones.

[Vistrix]

If Star Ocean remains a 360 exclusive, Ill lose all respect for Tri Ace.

The fans are Playstation owners. Star Ocean has a huge following in Japan. If it remains a 360 exclusive its going to fail.

[VsAssassin]

I found how MS got the FFXIII game onto their side impressive, but this game should be treated differently. FF is a behemoth, SO on the other hand, while always demonstrated a good battle system, is still unknown to many others, except people in Japan.

I know MS is wishing this game will make their system even more popular in Japan, but in my personal opinion, this won't happen. That's why Sony let FFXIII be multiplat, knowing that they still have Japan as it's main audience when it comes to the FF brand.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Tri-ace is practically aiming to fail, there is enough evidence that no matter how many 360s our in the market, JRPGs just don't sell of 360. Facts are facts, if they want money, they will have to make it multiplat. Plus the way I see it, SE should be making multiplat like FF13 was since the reasoning would be the same, they are losing money.

[La Chance]

"Tri-ace is practically aiming to fail, there is enough evidence that no matter how many 360s our in the market, JRPGs just don't sell of 360. Facts are facts"

Blue Dragon = 500 000 world wide with a tiny install base

LO = around about 800 000 and it hasnt even been a year yet.

ToV = very good sales in Japan.It sold in one day what Valkyria chronicles sold in one week with 5x bigger install base.

now on PS3 the so called "rpg console".

Folklore = flop

Valkyria chronicles = flop

Disgea 3 = flop

And dont forget PS3 gamers are starving for rpgs...

JRPGS on 360 dont sell as good as other genres on 360 but still well enough for devs to kepp on making jrpgs for 360.

[VF34EJ25]

Tiny install base??? There's 20 million 360s in the world right now. Even with Blue Dragon was released, there was still about a good 15 million or so.

It's pure fact that shooters is what the majority of what 360 fans want. Just look at how much Gears of War 2 will sell, gauranteed at least 3 million and more. Even with the same amount of advertisement as Lost Odyssey.

[Jandre02]

The RPG's that Sony has gotten so far have been absolute crap, Folklore is the best one they have gotten yet. Just calling something a JRPG doesn't mean its going to sell boatloads.

Now LO, since it was developed by Mistwalker (the guys who did Final Fantasy IX), should have have easily sold 1.2-1.5 million. It would have hit that the first month if it was released on the PS3.

People who play shooters don't play JRPG's in most cases, its just the truth. JRPG's are viewed as being nerdy. Most Shooter fans will usually have sports games and maybe Rock Band but that would be it.

Its funny to see La Chance get so emotional "AHHHHHHHH NO THE 360 SELLS JRPG's SO GOOD! LOOK! LO SOLD A WHOLE 800,000!!!11!!1!"

Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon both sold crap considering the marketing and being developed by Sakaguchi's company. They are both failures.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

oh at first I thought you were serious until
you started using the word "flop", then I knew
you weren't serious.

[SaiyanFury]

@ La Chance

So you're so psyched about 360 RPGs that you call down every JRPG that's released on PS3? Folklore wasn't bad, but in playing Disgaea 3, I wouldn't call it a flop. It's as fun as it's previous iterations. How can you say Valkyria Chronicles is a "flop" 2-3 months before the game is even released? I realize you adore your 360 RPGs to the point that you've got to rag on every offering on PS3, but maybe next time keep a more open mind.

[JD_Shadow]

>> Folklore = flop <<

Oh really? Really think you should check your facts on that!

>> Valkyria chronicles = flop <<

Umm...if you can predict the future (since, you know, VC hasn't even been released yet),....!

>> Disgea 3 = flop <<

A friend of mine is going to buy a PS3 to play this game (well, that and I was able to convince her, but she loved the first two games), and it just came out, and I'm curious at this game. FAR from a flop.

And you forgot to consider White Knight Chronicles! Will that be a flop, too?

As far as this X360 exclusive thing goes, I can't remember the last time I saw an ad on an instruction booklet ever advertise a game as being available on the competing console, even when it WILL be. I've seen games that were already OUT on two or more consoles be advertised as one console or only ON that console on those types of ads. This and has anyone even heard them officially announcing a PS3 version just yet?

Everything else is pointing at them bringing SO to the PS3 simultaneously. Not sure what the big deal with THIS is, exactly.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

@La Chance

I'm not gonna bother arguing with you, you misinterpreted my statement completely, and also needlessly brought PS3 into this, stop flaming consoles like a fanboy and grow up. My arguement had nothing to do with PS3.

btw when you got a good 15 million people and a console exclusive, it should at least sell 1 million.

[clintos59]

If sales for the 360 keep failing, expect scquare to turn to the wii and sony with more support for those 2 platforms. It makes no sense to make exclusive games for a system only to see sales bomb.

[Omega4]

360 has the highest attach rate in gaming history, even if its sells hardware at a slow rate than the PS3 and Wii it sells software at a far superior rate than the other two.

Even in Japan the 360 has the highest attach rate, thats the only reason so many previous PS exclusives have come to the Xbox because they are usually garenteed to sell

[darkness within]

you can do anything with figures. Just because the attach rate is high, doesn't mean its good cause if i sell 5 consoles with 10 games and 10 consoles with 1 game, the 5 consoles sold have a higher attach rate. Its not so hard to get a higher attach rate.

[clintos59]

Let me correct myself. I meant failing with sales for jrpg's. The 360 seems to be selling well with other games, its just when it comes to jrpg's they dont seem to sell very well. And look how many jrpg's they have versus the ps3. The ps3 needs jrpg's bad and is why japan is still holding out on the ps3, but I think with White Knight Story releasing in december look for those sales to sky rocket.

The 360 got alot of great jrpg's but the down side is they aint selling as devs thought it would.

Edot: Hiruma for your information MGS4 wasnt even advertised as much as gears of war. It didnt even get much and still it went on to selll over 3 million copies and counting. Also it moved way more consoles then gears could ever move. And crazy thing is that same bundle is still selling well.

Edit again, lol. Yes folklore was a great jrpg but at the same time I dont think it was anything amazing that made people go wow I want that game. Lost Odyssey to me was more of a wow jrpg. I think the first jrpg that will turn peoples heads and make them want a ps3 will be, "White Knight Chronicles"

Edit: Again, Hiruma but at the same time before MGS4 came out alot of 360 fanboys were saying how boring of a series it is and how it was nothing to gears. Dont get me wrong, I love gears of war, I just tend to think alot of people overhype the hell out of it along with halo that it gets to the point where they go way overboard when in reality yes those games are amazing no doubt but did they deliver the way MGS4 did against all that hype? No it didnt. MGS4 exceeded all the hype it had and overcame it in a huge way, and any true fan of the series including myself will tell u how satisfying and how amazing the expirience was in MGS4 because what u get from MGS games are something u can never find in a gears or a halo game, and that is an overall satisfaction feeling where the gameplay, sound, graphics, and storyline is at its best in one game. And is why I think MGS4 will be one game that will be hard to top when it comes to an overall expirience not leaving anything out of your expirience. :)

[Omega4]

So i guess Disega 3, Valkari Chronicles and Folklore all sold like hotcakes in Japan for the PS3 right >_>

And before you say they're not real RPGS your wrong, just because the gameplay is different its still an RPG and Diesgea 3 should of sold really well considing its fanbase yet it flopped in sells just like the other two.

While the RPGs on the 360 dont sell all that great, considring they are ALL new IPs (except ToV) and on a console which is practically non-exitent in Japan they've done extremely well probably better than the RPGs on the PS3

[PiTCHBLaCK]

some stores did bundle Gears1 with the 360.

http://www.monstersandcriti...

[Dyingduck]

Eternal Sonata was also "Only on Xbox360" go figure...

[ps3killin360]

all jrpg on the 360 flop and this one is a flop in the making, only with sony ps3 can star ocean 4 not flop. it's sad to see yet another jrpg flop on the 360, but i guess that what Square Enix seem to want.

[Fox01]

Flop or not, exclusive or not, I'm just happy I can play all these gammes on my 360

Oh, I forgot... DeadDuck go f**k yourself. Money rules the world and Microsoft has a lot of it.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Star Ocean The Last Hope

Left 4 Dead

There's a message in those names for the xBox 360 only games!!! ;-D

As the Famous Film goes -

'Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only Hope'

'Help me, ANY xBox 360 Exclusive, you're my only Hope'!!! ;-D

+I might do a 'pp' etc etc and go on every xBox 360 bit and see how long my Bubbles last!!! ;-D
OH!SH*T!!! The xBotMod's are coming...RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!;)

[militant07]

i got eternal sonata, i dont see only on xbox360 stumb

[Fox01]

I could say the same about PS3 exclusives :
-F(m).A.G
-Resistance
-Pain
...

Fanboys hold your horses I'm just replying to this P.O.S, I have a PS3 as well (it's my best friend's...) but I'm just tired of reading these kind of nonsense.

[Montrealien]

*yawn*

original? nay, same old same old, fanboys are so redundant.

[Pain]

Bribed by Evil and loosing money cuz of it..owells ill give them some $$$ if they give me FF MMO @ TGS.

[AngryXbot]

WKC releasing 11 December in Japan.

RIP 360...

[Montrealien]

lol, double *yawn* SO unoriginal...

I can`t wait for White night chronicle though, I have been playing Rogue Galaxy the last few days, Level 5 make great games.

[theKiller]

they r thinking now and not later, by now i mean get some cash from MS and then lose a lot more from sales!!

japanese dont like faulty systems, their culture goes with quality so there is no hope for 360 to win japan if even they lost their own home land!!!

all JRPGs or most of them will arrive to ps3 but already to late!!! they should have made it the opposite so that they can use the power and advantages of ps3!

360 = failed in japan = failed in europe = failed in north america = failed world wide!

i cant understand SE and other japanese publishers by their strategies!! why make JRPG for a console know for shooting and a console that is dying?? money dont buy everything and certainly not the hurt of people!! MS cant buy me or the japanese or the world with their cheap JRPG exclusives!!

[m-s-8-2]

This has as much meaning as the statement on the case for Bioshock on the 360.

[Mc Fadge]

You can read! :D

[Quickstrike]

I want tri ace to make money but they are making it hard because people buy 360's to play shooters and PS3's to play RPG's. this generation has f***ed up big time :(

[Mc Fadge]

Like others have said, it's not confirmed at all :/

[Shane Kim]

Final Fantasy 13 will also be a flop thanks to xbox. We can only hope for that vs13 will be good.

[CouchKing0]

All jrpgs on the 360 flop, this one will too.

[Quickstrike]

why don't you play games? did you 360 RRoD on you :)

[juuken]

You're telling someone to go play games when your dumb ass is on the internet.

Oh, you are sooooo good at insulting people! /sarcasm

[Laexerias]

do you rly think u can insult mah people with such low-budget insults?
duuuuude, you are wrong, i mean, what the f*ck are you trying to say?
they dont have games? okay maybe they dont, but they have PSN, okay, maybe they have, but they are blu-ray-players?
Dude i never herd such a lame insult, its leik calling ur mom a toaster,
which is a very good insult imo. SO you mother is a toaster, and juuken and Quickstrike are Blu Ray Players, hrm, i think i could have figured out now what you ment with no games..

but dude, i think you are wrong. The Playstation 3 System is going to catch up with the greatest game line-up you have ever seen in this generation, Sony can fill out all the following months with great great Third Party experiances,
and also first party exclusives, ... Microsoft doesnt stand a chance against those f*cking games, maybe there are some of these 3 great microsoft exclusive games that will break one or two scores of one from the Playstation 3 Exclusives, but man, who cares? the Playstation 3 gets so many f*cking good exclusives the xb360 can just vanish in shadows and beg for pardon to forgive their f*cking fanboys to be so dumb as hell. =O

So now go to bed and cry, you lil mama's boy, and next time, think about who you insult, and how you insult, i cant stand to see such f*cking dumb insults in my eyes, they are burning, they arr BURNING.

Soo, i herd tri-ace doesnt leik star ocean 4 on PS3...
i would LUUUUUUUVEEEE Star Ocean 4 on my PS3..
hrm, thats bad, then i will play it on my XB360 q_q...

[SixTwoTwo]

The Only on Xbox 360 logo means nothing. Just pick up your Xbox 360 version of Bioshock and you will see what I mean. But still, with that being said the game has only been announced for the Xbox 360.

[Mc Fadge]

Just out of interest, what evidence is there of this going to the PS3? I haven't been following the development, but everybody seems to say there's quite strong proof, links? <3

[sajj316]

Only on Xbox 360 or Only on PS3 is just text these days with the exception being first party exclusives.

Bioshock has disproved this exclusivity title as well as FFXIII!

[Mc Fadge]

Bioshock was labelled as a 360 exclusive when it was sold, as in on the box. FFXIII was told to be a PS3 exclusive, through trailers and whatnot. The difference is that Bioshock was marketed and sold as a 360 exclusive, FFXIII hadn't even been made :P

[kewlkat007]

Of course it was eventually was tweaked for the Wii, which told Xbox 360 gamers it was no-brainer that FFXII could be done on the 360.

[Mc Fadge]

It was called Crystal Tools and was a multiplatform engine? I don't really know though :P

[Firstkn1ghT]

Got to give it up to Microsoft. They are definitely trying harder than Sony is. Sony got caught slipping and that's why Microsoft is the home of the best jrpg's. You want to play Star Ocean you have a few things you can do: Get a 360, write up a petition and whine about it, pray and hope and maybe you'll get it sometime next year.

[SixTwoTwo]

Or you can just play it on your friends 360.

[LiquifiedArt]

Xbox was a year early. So it only makes sense for SO4 to be a year late. Done.. End of story. I'll keep my ps3 for quite a long time. I have no problem with waiting the difference in console release dates.

:-)

[JD_Shadow]

1. How many accounts do you have to bypass other people's ignores of you, 1st Knight. I swear this is, like, the third incarnation of your name I've seen here on N4G.
2. This pic really doesn't mean a whole lot. They can still announce the PS3 version at TGS and this would all be moot. Until they say something official...
3. Infinite Undiscovery didn't get very favorable reviews or attention, and FF13, their BIG one, is still coming out for the PS3 (though I caution Sony and their fans that MS won't just stop there and try to make THAT a 360 exclusive, too, since they continue to be slimy at this type of stuff).

You also forget that Sony has the Tokyo Game Show, which would be the perfect chance to stock up on JRPGs (because of it being IN Japan and thus the best place to announce something like that), and that we still have the KH3 announcement rumored to take place there.

But yeah, how you can claim any of that here is beyond me.

[Raoh]

from the article:

It has been confirmed by various people all over the internet that the picture is legit, but developers hint a PlayStation 3 port is still possible. After all, the "Only on Xbox 360" stamp was also printed on other titles that were released on the PlayStation 3, for example: Bioshock, Enchanted Arms, Lost Planet, etc.

________

as far as ninja gaiden 2 and others.. yeah a million across the board.. ninja gaiden 2 actually sold under 500k units in the U.S.

when you think of the amount of 360's in the U.S. is that great or just ok?

_____________________

And dont worry japan, i know you feel ripped off, mislead, lead a stray, hoodwinked even

but if rumor is true you have White Knight Chronicles to look forward to on Dec. 11th...

[pwnsause]

Wait, WKS got a release date for Japan already?

[KingDizzi]

Bioshock and Lost Planet had the tag and look what happened with them

[kazuma]

everyone watch out, a 360 fan told u right now that lost planet TWO is coming out exclusively on the xbox 360. not lost planet 1, not lost planet the expansion, lost planet TWO!
that's kickass really, i loved lost planet one, glad to know two is coming out...lol

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

That wasn't the port...

...Lost Planet was already crappy.

Giving it a 5 gig mandatory install, pricing it at 40 bucks, and gimping on the graphics...

Did Capcom honestly expect the PS3 version to sell well with all that crap???

Also, the 360 owners only bought it because they thought it would be really good. Why do you think LAIR sold over a million copies???

[TheMART]

Not really Lenny

Close to an 8 on the 360

http://www.gamerankings.com...

But yes, on a 6.9 on the PS3

http://www.gamerankings.com...

And Lair is a whole other league, thats on a 5.6 average review.

[VMAN_01]

Just because it says on the manual its only on 360 doesn't mean its not coming out on the PS3 I mean look at Dead Rising or Lost Planet they said on the front "ONLY ON XBOX 360" but look now.

[PirateThom]

So did BioShock.

[pp]

I am so happy happy happy just to see the jealous droids upset and crying i want more jrpg just for me and my Next Gen xbox360 console . Time to jump up and down in my room

[PirateThom]

What age are you?

7?

8?

You can't be much older than that if you're going to jump up and down in your room over video games.

[sak500]

Yahhhayyy

Everyone cheer for our beloved 360.. Pippip Horrayyyyyyy

Edit: Look guys the 2 chin junken is back to troll in 360 news. Since her periods stopped in 1970s she's lost her senses and is attacking everyone who doesn't agree with her.

Btw not everyone has asscrack as big as grand canyon like yours where you put your ps3.

[LuHawk]

ALi the Clit with some more dumbass Sh!t

[KBDuB]

what about the dude that was going to kill himself over FF going multiplat? How old you think he was? That's even stupider than PP wanting to jump up and down in his room...

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I think this is ridiculous.

Millions of people already bought PS3's to get the best RPG's...

This sucks.

[BrotherNick]

I hope this teaches all not to be early adopters. I waited because both consoles are close enough in the graphics department for me to give a crap. I think if you like jrpgs you should probably get a 360.

[ceedubya9]

It will be on the 360 first for some time at least.

I wish people would stop using the "360 doesn't sell RPGs" line. Its innacurate. 360 sells RPGs just fine. The problem is that JRPGs are a niche market. If you're not named Final Fantasy, then your chances of selling anywhere over a million copies, or 500,000 copies is slim.

Some of you act as if just because a brand new IP JRPG doesn't break 1 million, then it is automatically a failure.

With that said, I do believe the game would sell a lot better as a multiplatform game. But that is just too obvious to even talk about.

[juuken]

It's a timed exclusive.
I'm sorry but unless Microsoft publishes this, it won't stay exclusive.

Awwww, what's the matter...did I strike a nerve there?

All Microsoft published games stay exclusive to the 360. If Microsoft doesn't publish this game, it's as good as a timed exclusive. The same thing with Sony. If Sony publishes games for the PS3, it stays exclusive.

The only exception is if the third party developer prefers one console over the other.

GO CRY SOME MORE.

[KBDuB]

"GO CRY SOME MORE." Ugh.. She's at it again. TwoChin.. I've seen you cry more than any one individual on this site. Where do you get the nerve to tell someone else to "GO CRY SOME MORE." Lol.

You're one of a kind, TwoChin! GO CRY SOME MORE! =)

[felidae]

hope that it´s not another mediocre RPG on the 360!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Star Ocean?

No, it won't be mediocre. It's Star Ocean.

I have a few friends that are considering 360's because of it...which is sad.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

You are forgetting about Star Ocean 3 downfall?

Not trying to be an @ss, I liked the game really much, but most of my friends which was already fans of the series since first game just like me, they don't dig it.

[TheMART]

Its all better then having NO RPG's on the PS3

And hey, the PS2 also had many mediocre RPG's but still also the great ones.

Same on 360

[Grassroots]

Would be a shame, I played the predecessors on the PS. Oh well, thank god I have a 360 just in case. Kinda lame though since the core fan-base will truly be found on the PS Brand.

[arngrim229]

it wouldnt make sense if star ocean 4 was 360 exclusive, they arent making as much money as they wud if infinite was multiplat, if star ocean 4 isnt multiplat then they will lose hundreds of thousands of sales most of the MS fans were shooter fans, the sony fans were rpg fans, so its obvious rpgs sell more on a sony brand or japanese brand in general. ugggh

i have both 360 and ps3 but im annoyed if its 360 only, only reason why i think they wud ignore the profit is cuz they dont wanna try deving on the ps3 cuz they lazy. bleeeeeeh

[Raoh]

@ Fox01

those titles are published by Sony

everyone including microsoft has said, third party exclusivity is for the most part dead.

i can only see in 2009 and going forward

Exclusivity from developer/publisher due to financial restraints

Exclusivity in DLC (which will be interesting due to companies not happy with MS wanting to charge for free content)

Timed Exclusivity (which must like DLC) may come out of pocket. not good in the long term.

some developers prefer a specific console. Fat Lazy developers who are used to pc's develop for the simple console cause its really no work for them. thats why square enix is using a pc based engine. others may want to concentrate on a console.

some developers may prefer a console at the time for a specific game. maybe X game is better developed for and realized on the 360 and Z game better for the ps3 so a company may make 2 exclusives for that reason. i'm cool with that....

what really changes the game though is EA and Activision. With large publishers publishing more games (VALVE for example) even developer chosen exclusives become multi console (Orange Box for example)

[heyheyhey]

yeah only on 360 when the game launches.... then will make it's way to PS3

let's face it, JRPG's don't and never will sell well on the 360 since the majority of the install base are shooter-fans

Square have to bring SO and perhaps eventually Infinite Floppery to the PS3 to make some cash

yes it will probably take a year for it to come- but in the meantime we will have WKS, FF13, FFv13, Last Remnant, Eternal Sonata, the PS3 exclusive SMT game and the PS3 exclusive Tales game to keep us busy

after Bioshock and Eternal Sonata- haven't we learned that MS only make timed exclusivity deals and all games that are apparently "only on Xbox" will eventually get a PS3 version??

some people never learn- soon the Xbox 360 will have so few exclusives left that no-one will care about it

and everything that doesn't make it's way to the PS3, will make it's way to the PC

@Hirstupid

you fail epicly yet again

yeah the install base of the 360 in Japan is probably JRPG-centred mostly, but that install base consists of a grand total of just 700,000- and that figure doesn't get much bigger as time goes by

Tales sold great in Japan for a 360 game- but it was still only 120k, i doubt the game worldwide will make it past 400k as an Xbox exclusive- maybe not even that

it's the calm before the JRPG storm on the PS3- and you can add KH3 and Valkyria Chronicles to the aforementioned list i gave

[juuken]

Yep, exactly.
I don't know about you or anyone else but this whole thing is pissing me off.

[juuken]

Valkyria of the Battlefield
FFXIII Versus
White Knight Chronicles
FFXIII (multiplatform)
Eternal Sonata (multiplatform)
Last Remnant (timed)
Kingdom Hearts 3 (possibility)

...You were saying?

The rpg's for the 360 keep coming and coming? The same way they keep coming, and coming, they will also keep flopping and flopping. How long will Japanese developers continue to ignore the PS3's fanbase?

Their western approach is not working at all whatsoever.

[karlostomy]

Stop your whining girly

waaaaah waaaaah?
is that all you do?

(and stop stalking my comments babe)

[Harry190]

will repeat itself. It was said Star Ocean 2 would never see the light of the day on the PS1 10 years ago, but look at what happened.

[LiquifiedArt]

It really does bother me how Microsoft FORCED a console Jump on sony and Nintendo and they think "they've done it". For such a simple strategy they should know NONE of there consumers are loyal in the least. They just went to what was available first.

Loyal Consumers > Short lived Consumer Spikes.

Because LC are DEPENDABLE! SONY FOR LIFE!

[ceedubya9]

I'm loyal to good games, and not the console that it is on. Being a loyal Sony/Micro/Nintendo consumer doesn't make someone a better consumer or gamer than anyone else.

[BrotherNick]

I'm sorry, being loyal to consoles is retarded...it's all about what you're playing in the end that makes you happy, not what console you're playing it on.

[Raoh]

@ LeonSKennedy4Life

it doesnt really suck.. its just a matter of patience. in the past ps2 owners in the U.S. hd to eitehr wait years for a japan game to make it to the states or not get it at all.

now its actually more likely to get more of those games to the states, and 360 is enjoying the ride as well.

it's been said that a good game takes 2 years to develop. thats not including heavily story based games, then factor translations.

the 360 came out in 2005 and its just now that they are seeing rpg's in 2008. at least expected to be good rpg's.

the ps3 is just hitting it's second year. and the first year or time for most developers has been puzzling. now its getting easier so expect a good late 2009. starting with white knight chronicles possibly this dec in japan and early 09 in the states.

disgaea 3 was ok. very ps2'ish.. the thing about that is that its basically a niche game.. but i love that niche game.... i cant believe i've been missing out on the disgaea series all this time... its gotten decent scores/reviews due to lack of polish graphically and for fans of the series its disgaea done right but not new.

my point about disgaea is, could you imagine the score it would have got if it were a 360 game?

there may be a lot of 360's in the wild. but it does not equal sales. outside of fps, western rpgs (which is a good thing) and some hack and slash... not much else sells on the 360..

even ninja gaiden 2 only sold just under 500k in the united states.. and its a 360 line up that the fans love and dangled for years over the ps3 as an exclusive.

360 gamers for the most part dont care about jrpg's they just like to know that they are not exclusive to the ps3........

MS is only succeeding in making developers loose focus.

[Kenny_Roger]

Killzone 2 The Last Hope an PS3 exclusive?

[cemelc]

nope, Heavy Rain, Infamous and White knight say hello

[karlostomy]

well it looks pretty... but isn't the gameplay said to suck?

[pp]

EXCLUSIVE only on xbox360 that sounds great also i should not forget only possible on xbox360

[cemelc]

EXCLUSIVE only on xbox360 that sounds great also i should not forget only possible on xbox360 to Flop

[SmokingMonkey]

"only possible on the 360"

well except for the RRoD

[Says you]

An extreme dumbass!.

[Zerodin]

360, home of the rpgs!

[heyheyhey]

.....for now

remember, the PS2 didn't break into full RPG swing until quite a while

[sak500]

PS3, homo for droids like juuken.

[juuken]

360 = Home of the f*ggoty c*cksuckers like sak500 and all the retarded bots who like being screwed over by Microsuckage on a daily basis.

GO CRY SOME MORE.

Don't start calling the 360 king of the rpg's because the PS2 started out the same way without rpg's. Years later, the rpg's started raining from the sky.

Gloat while you can because that gloating won't save the 360 from being a last gen console in 2009/2010.

[karlostomy]

Home of the juuken troll

[Stickguy259]

Also home of a bunch to a bunch of dumbass fanboys.

Here's looking at you two, juuken and Ali.

[rebirthofcaos]

star ocean: the last flop XD

[Miraak82]

I love rpgs man , but its still not going to get me to by an xbox.

[WitWolfy]

The only reason these JRGS may flop is because people are tired of playing the same lame ass storyline over... and over and over again... save this princess.. defeat this abomination of nature .... get that sword for this demon and so forth...and oh no i have to be atleast level 55 with tier 6 armour to win this albino bird pig

Where in the old days people founded this idea something new and exciting not to mention the great soty lines, now its still the same story line but except where you were like a lone warrior then now ur like a paraplegic panda get my drift

But ill still get it :) X360 stil rules for me no complains

[cemelc]

Are you kidding me, Rpg are good cos you can basically add anything that could start a journey to the story, the save the princess plot its mario trademark

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Don't get me wrong, but Star Ocean was great in first and second games, the third was a letdown sales/reviews wise. Still it was never a console seller, at least I had never seen on single persion saying it would buy a console to play Star Ocean. In fact most of those I knew was generally JRPG fans or Sony fans that actually bought it.

We know 360 is getting just that much JRPGs for now but not selling greatly, JRPGs arn't the cup of tea of most 360 owners and the 360 itself is not the console of choice of most RPG fans (at least as of now) because of the XB bad past.

So, if they don't launch on PS3, they'll probably just be locking the major portion of fans and actuallly interested people out of the market.

BUT, I can see why they would not release for PS3: development costs. Sony is doing great by familiarizing devs with the system, but maybe not fast enough for Star Ocean.

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A bit off-topic, anyone know if The Last Hope is Star Ocean 4? I have seen some forums with people claiming this is a Star Ocean prequel (0).

[360Floppage]

This will flop on the 360.

[cemelc]

They are on a roll in the floping department this year, well gears its your last option right now xbots.... but then again i remember that epic doesnt know how to make a decent plot so is a multiplayer only game and crappy at that(5vs5)

[zodiac909]

What i dont get is why they would release a game a totally different brand when the previous three were well rooted as a playstation brand. And thats the point of it being on 360 when the previous 3 were on ps2, and with ps3's backwards compatibility you could have played all 3 plus the new one. Now if its a 360 exclusive the poeple who want to go back and play the previous 3 need to buy another system! GREAT THINKING SQUARE!

[DJ]

Pretty early on, so PS2 was the only viable system at the time. And it won the console war early, so it made sense for most RPG developers to flock to that system.

Xbox 360, compared to the PS3, is a lot easier to start developing for because of Unreal Engine 3. It makes sense for RPGs (arguably the largest games out there) to be made on Microsoft's platform due to such high development costs. But the RPGs that have come out so far (except say maybe Folklore) have been pretty much standard fare. The genre definitely needs a reboot though.

[Alex_Mexico]

The Unreal Engine 3 isn't exclusive to the 360 did you know? LOL at you thinking that meant that developing for the 360 was cheaper.

There are even games on the freakin' Wii that use the Unreal Engine 2 (i.e. Red Steel).

[Andronicus]

only on xbox and pc was on the bioshock box aswell, to microsoft it means ony on this system....at the moment

[DJ]

Infinite Undiscovery got reviewed as a fairly bland RPG. Basically the same thing we played last generation on our PS2s. I'm actually wondering if they should even attempt PS3 titles, unless I.U. was simply a 'safe title' to get their feet wet.

[gersh]

Weren't all the other Star Oceans on the Playstation system?
I think PS3 owners will still get the game.

[Raoh]

i'd like to remind those calling the 360 home of the rpg's or better games.. about the games that microsoft isnt mentioning and its fanbase doesnt recognize when discussing flops (all 360 games released this year 2008 recently)

Fable II Pub Games - 52

Spectral Force 3 - 60 (Strategy RPG)
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Operation Darkness - 45 (Turn-Based Strategy)
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Supreme Commander - 55
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Don King Presents: Prizefighter - 57
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: Elements - 52 (First-Person Action, Role-Playing Game)
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Universe at War: Earth Assault - 66
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Alone in the Dark - 58 (just like bioshock its a 360 title until released on ps3)
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

[TheMART]

Yes crappy games are made also.

The PS2 got the most games last gen, had the best RPG's but at the same time had the most crap on any system.

What matters is that yes, the 360 got the RPG's this gen and the PS3 has a lack of them.

You can try to mask that to write down games that got bad scores, especially a lot of games that weren't hyped or were not so important first off. But hey what makes you happy.

Fact is: I am playing all those games the PS3 doesn't get.

[NinjaRyu]

YOU FAIL!

P.S. Good job TheMART! Put the fanboys in their place!

[8BitSoul]

I can't wait to get my hands on this game, Quite frankly I don't give a s*it if it's an exclusive or not. The 360 gets FFXII, the PS3 gets Star Ocean... Not a fair trade by any means, but it's a start:)

[Raoh]

owned?
not the least bit...

my point on the crappy games is that microsoft fans like to throw stones while living in a glass house.

not to mention the 360 doesnt have the rpgs if they are timed exclusives.. eventually its a level playing field with the ps3 getting the spit and polish the games deserve.

i just got disgaea 3 and love it. which reminds me of 360's real problem. the ps2. great jrpg's are still being made for the ps2 and with the high sales of late. the 360 couldnt even beat the ps2 in japan, with a major japanese rpg release. also playing persona 3 for the ps2 on my ps3.. which by the way persona is huge in japan as well it that ps2 title, persona 4 for the ps2 will crush the 360 rpg sales in japan.

go check play-asia.com, valkeryie knights got great reviews in japan and will be out for the ps3 in the states this holiday as well..

eternal sonata as well for the ps3, out already on the 360 but again level playing field

the ps3 in japan will have white knight chronicles this december and later in 09 here in the states.

you can have your little third party titles that will come to the ps3...

Fact is: I am playing a ton of Sony Exclusives that the 360 will never get.

______

i also went through three 360's last year from march 2007 to october 2007. the first two got replaced, on the second one, i waited till the hdmi less model was gone from shelves so my chances of getting one with hdmi were good, in that time i bought my ps3. the 360 was no longer overheating or dvd drive scratching my dvds but it was loud as hell. after a few weeks with my ps3 i traded in the 360 for a second ps3 (1 in the bedroom 1 in the living room) plan on third by end of holiday.

Fact is: i can play my ps2 and ps3 titles and watch my high def movies on a reliable system for long periods of time (my ps3 usually stays on from friday to monday without worry. jrpgs require a lot of playing time. good luck with that.

______

more facts? sure.. last gen alot of games weren't really exclusives. but based on numbers. it wasnt worth the money to make some games for the xbox. the games were selling well enough on the ps2 without the xbox. they wouldn't make their money back. it wasnt hate for the xbox it just wasnt worth it.. gta wasnt exclusive.. just wasnt worth making it for the xbox and the ps2 at the same time and keep schedule..

this generation it seems the xbox isnt holding those sales down though since they need to go multi platform to recoup their money.

third party is a wash..

Fact is: We have more First Party Games we are enjoying that the 360 will never get.

________________________

comparing heavenly sword to ninja gaiden 2 score? fitting for the type of games they are.. but your comparing 1st year console life game to a 3rd year console life game.

fact is the 360 gets a pass.. ninja gaiden 2 was riddled with camera and framerate bugs that were just recently fixed.. no mention by websites.. the only issues that was overblown about heavenly sword was the length of the game.. which while i would prefer it to be longer, i'm on my third play through because it is that good..

mass effect? bought that the day it came out. if it were a ps3 title the fan boys would label it fail due to its horrendous frame rates, graininess in the graphics and load times.

LOL at a fanboy calling another fanboy a fanboy.....

sure there are some 360 titles of interest left 4 dead (which may be brought over by EA or even another division of valve) tales of vesperia looks good, not good enough to miss owning an xbox though..

Fact is: there are more xbox owners buying ps3's this holiday than there are ps3 owners buying 360's....

[skulldrey]

and most intelligent post ive read in a long long time. Kudos.

[SmokingMonkey]

very true, at my store we have more and more refurbished 360 coming in than all 3 other 360 new sku's combined!

A guy returned his refurbished 360 today, that he bought two days ago, guess what the problem was...RROD, after 2 days AFTER it was refurbished!

[Narutone66]

My uncle just bought a PS3 and he was overwhelmed by the sheer number of features on the console.

[Jandre02]

Haha no fing way he said that. What a lame a$$ dude. Socom will be getting 65% of my time this winter. Then comes RFOM2, then LBP, then Rock Band 2

[jlemdon]

I sure will be getting this regardless of mixed reviews it get.

SO 1-3 got 7-8's back on ps2.

[SmokingMonkey]

that's why i bought an xbox1 for FPS's (didn't turn out well, had i not called in to tell them to cancel LIVE, they would have charged my credit card without my permission! Thieves IMO) So IMO keep the RPG's I will be playing RESISTANCE2 @ 60 players online and come spring KILLZONE2 will own anything on any other system.

enjoy bots, you got the RPG crown (for now)

FPS are best on the PS3 BY FAR XD

proof? ( Halo3 16 players online $50 a year, Resistance2 60 players online for FREE with no RRoD )

oh and i don't want to put fear in the hearts of all 360 owners but, RPG's usually take along time to beat, so expect a lot of HEAT for extended periods of time, with the occasional last gen disc swap .

[jerethdagryphon]

what are you doing here
arnt yyou usuallt scouring the net for lbp news :)

anyhow
i hope it does well on 360
i hope it comes to ps3 for its fans

but i really hope the damn insults about peoples console choice stop

[cemelc]

>Yeah it would be great if it comes to the ps3, but only if those lazy bastards at square do a better job than they did with infinite undicosvery(this is not to bash the 360 im bashing square for doing a lazy work).

[Transformer]

the rason it is 360 exclusiveis because the name of the game is Last Hope which is the 360's last hope because Sony will overtake them no matter what.

It will be on the PS3 in 2010 with extra content.

[WitWolfy]

Whatthe hell are wrong with you PSfanboys, you guys act like you have all these games that we'll sell our families to have.

When i go to gaming stores and look at the Ps3 games and X360 games i see no diffrence in games ALL OF THEM ARE MULTI PLATFORM. Exepct Haze and Motorstorm, what the hell those two games were so over rated that nobody bother to buy it. Ps3 titles are nothing compared to the X360 titles , when you look at the X360 shelf its like games that can keep you busy for like 3 years, and on the PS3 side its like one game a year give or take then its like a kiddo game aswel .. hint hint LBP

Wat long loading times in mass effect are you talking about mass effect is a good example of a great exclusive game. Great dialogue and great story line PERIOD.

and who said Ninja Gaiden 2 flopped, Its just to darn difficult for the average gamer, And Too human FYI isnt a flop some people expected a total diffrent concept of the game, I for one dont think it sucks. Butill admit this the graphic is a tota let down for a Unreal engin 3

Name me all these great games by a hundred that we will never have. Bet is you'll start with MGS4 ,R2 or LBP cause those are the only decent exclusives you guys have

the only game you can blow us away with is MGS4

[pwnsause]

and yet another sad bot who very serious about his games that flop hard.

Let the games do the talking bot. im mean they are talking now, but they talk about flops.

PS3 games are talking and walking the walk this year, and so far they havent talked about flops, well, except for Haze, Too Human's Counterpart.

WHY SO SERIOUS BOT?

[pwnsause]

The Mart Fails Hard like this aircraft bomber

[WitWolfy]

because you guys dont even have titles to compete with but when a company doesnt meet the standards it promised it would then you guys attack the console manufacturer. As if the RPG's would of sold better on PS3 anyways. If the game is crap the game is crap. That has nothing to do with the console

Everybody here knows if MGS4 ever came to X360 it would of killed Halo3 sales by far on X360. We will see when push comes to shove in the future when PS3's exclusives flop where your loyalties lay

[shadow-sentinel]

???

You xbots still want MGS4?!

xD xD xD

I think I'm going to die from laughter here...

And no, MGS4 would never pass Halo3 sales. It won't even come close because theres so many of you dumbasses who bought the generic shooter.