GT Sport Will Not Feature Dynamic Time or Weather

Dynamic conditions are dropped in newest game in favour of better 'quality' control.

[SavageKuma]

Sounds a bit disappointing, but maybe this will be a Gran Turismo I can like. Good Job on the post.

[Nitrowolf2]

Ugh

I get what pd doing here, but to me gt5 l, though not the best gt, introduced a lot of new elements.

It's like, sometimes it's good to sacrifice for the sake of better performance and overall experience, but at the same time some of the features are so great you rather have them in and have them cut back else where.

I guess we expect to much at this point, thinking the hardware can push that much going on all at a stable frame.

I'll wait till the final release, but so far not liking what I hear. It's strange, because sometimes we are okay with getting games that offer what normally wouldn't be acceptable but turns out great, yet other times we wish it went the other route and supplied more at the cost of lower fps, resolution. It's just odd to see a GT game take away rather then add (I know bigger player count, but still)

I won't say the game gonna be bad till it's finalized, because I've been surprised before. Afterall, this game doesn't seem to geared towards being a true GT game for the fans, but more as a competition type of game, like GT ACADEMY was

[Crimzon]

According to various reports, GT Sport is designed an online-focused eSports title. It's not just dynamic time of day or weather that will be absent, but the singleplayer mode will also be missing in action to make way for small tutorials and missions to teach people proper racing technique and etiquette as well.

It's an interesting direction to take the franchise, but I'm not sure if stripping it down so much to focus on online play is a wise decision. Online-focused games are generally fine, and many franchises and IPs have been successful when venturing in this direction, but to do so with a racing series such as Gran Turismo? Considering how ram-happy and aggressive a lot of gamers can be in online racing games, this could be a very poor decision due to the simple fact that it's incredibly difficult to enforce clean racing.

On the plus side however, at least Polyphony Digital have finally learned that quality is more important than quantity.

[BEASELY]

If Forza can do it, trust me, GT can, especially on PS4 hardware. This is a classic case of Japanese developers simply being behind the curve.

[Forn]

Honestly, I know they're different games and all, but Driveclub to me seems to be standing on the shoulders of GT in a lot of ways. PD should be blowing my mind on a PS4 title I would think, but they're kind of not.

[NatureOfLogic_]

@Crimzon

Wasn't SFV also eSports focused. I wonder how this will turn out. The competition with racing sims is so good right now that PD can't really afford to be slacking. I don't want to see GT become irrelevant in the future. I will most likely skip this one and wait for GT7, and when that game finally does arrive, I expect nothing but the best from one of the best developers out there. Time to get it together PD.

Edit: As a console only gamer for so long and huge GT fan, I didn't realize how important the sound of the vehicles were until I tried a few racing sims on PC. It blew my mind how good a few games sound. It was like a whole new experience to me and it will be hard to go back to the GT series if PD doesn't get with the times and catch up the competition as far as certain features go.

[nX]

I'm definitely disappointed that this won't be much more than a extended Prologue to GT7.

They might've (unexpectedly?) made this deal with the FIA and therefore decided to make their next game about it. Making it a small part of a full fledged GT7 probably wouldn't have the impact it will have this way so I'm kind of understanding where they are coming from... but as I care much more about Gran Turismo than I do about online racing this is still not what I was hoping for. I'll probably buy it just for the amazing physics but I'm not sure how long it can keep me playing...

[Goldby]

@beasley

Couldnt be more wrong. Is Forza vr? Does forza reward winners with cash and podium ceremonies next to the actual drivers if the real race, does forza teach people about etiquette not only on the track but also pit, garage and podium?

Forza us a race sim game. Gt is a door into actual real life racing.

[IRetrouk]

Crimzon there is a singleplayer portion to the game, already confirmed, the fia stuff is more to do with the online portion of the game, which you dont need to touch.. everyone freaking out over nothing, peps need ro realise that this is a new gt, not numbered and bigger than a prologue, its a new direction for the series and the fact that it teaches you how to race properly is fantastic, not to mention the chance to earn a real life racing licence has never been done before... day 1 for me.

[-Foxtrot]

If they just say now

"GT Sports is NOT and I repeat NOT GT7 then fair enough"

But the fact they keep dabbling on this is annoying. If they class it as a spin off then it gives them a bit of room to say "we only do big additions and changes in our main games"

That's in NO WAY giving them an excuse here but when you look at GT5 and see so many changes then you can help to think why GT Sports is lacking a little.

GT5 added a lot
GT6 didn't
GT7 should

It's like a pattern. GT1, 3, 5 have all been big additions which push the series/genre forward while the even ones 2,4,6 have just been improved, refined versions of the last one.

[hay]

Well, we have Forzatards to thank for it. We had dynamic weather, but bunch of kids with their little joypads thought pre-baked plastic Forza bullshit looked better. YOU ARE FUCKING WELCOME, and now swallow and enojy your little compromise to mediocrity.

[nix]

Well... Before anyone breaks down...

GT SPORT is about racing and winning FIA approved trophies. If you can drive a bloody car and win the race, that's all that's going to matter. Nothing else.

GT SPORT is about online eSports.

And that's that. You freaking qualify. You win. You don't qualify, you lose.

You can sit at your basement and cry over it while some guy will go ahead and win the tournament and get real sponsorship and money.

Cry moar losers.

[nix]

Double post

[freshslicepizza]

3 years and this is all they have to show for it. sad that this was one of the premiere developers in the world but have been floating for about 10 years now. i still believe it's the added support for psvr that is to blame for the underwhelming graphics and now this. but people should not comapre this game to driveclub. there are more cars onscreen and it's also going to be double the frame rate.

[GameNameFame]

@BEASELY and moldybread

Except Forza do NOT have dynamic lighting or weather. Forza had everything prebaked.

There was nothing dynamic about it.

[BEASELY]

Gamefame, FH2 is open world with dynamic day/night and weather.

Try again.

[GameNameFame]

@Beasly

Actually FH2 didnt have dynamic lighting. It had prebake stuff. It seems you dont even understand what dynamic effects even are. Lawl

Also, Forza(which was the game we are taking about ) didnt have dynamic lighting OR dynamic weather. just Prebake stuff.

Thanks, but try again.

[starchild]

@GameNameFame

It seems you don't understand how lighting works in modern games. Virtually all games use "baked" lighting to some degree, mixed with some dynamic lights and shadows in select areas.

Baked lighting also does not equal 'bad lighting', as some of you seem to think. Games like The Order 1886, Assassin's Creed Unity and Uncharted 4, for example, make extensive use of baked lighting and most people think those games look fantastic.

I haven't played much of Forza, but I've seen enough to know it's using a combination of baked and dynamic lighting just like most games.

[SolidStoner]

Forza is not GT..

what the hell guys? you only see rain and graphics?

I buy GT for competitive racing and physics (with racing wheel)! I use the game to train before to go to actual race track!

seems like most of you are using controllers for racing.. so im here a true minority! never mind then! Seems like im getting too old, smart and mature with my choice of games!

[BEASELY]

And apparently, Gamefame, you believe that all games are capable of having lighting that mirror's a real world sun running in real time.

I'm not sure if you're playing games on a prototype 2035 PC ooor?

[GameNameFame]

@starchild

Only if you want to say back ground items that are miles away are considered as "baked".That is dumb semantic and you know it.

Even at that level, games like Drive Club does full 3D rendering and lighting of far away objects. Meaning full dynamic.

Reality, you are taking about playable area when speaking of Dynamic Lighting. Uncharted and Order definitely has full dynamic lighting. Wheras Forza, items 2 feet away from your are prebaked.

@BEASELY

Uh. No. That is like saying Forza which has 95 prebaked and 5 percent dynamic is somehow same as other games that has 95 percent dynamic and 5 percent prebaked.

You can try to blur the line, but they are different.

[CaptainObvious878]

I was super hyped for this game when it was first announced...

I feel very meh right now

[XanderZane]

I was hoping it would blow GT5 and GT6 away by a mile. Take weather condition, day and night driving to a whole new level. Doesn't look like any of that is going to happen with this game. DriveClub will still have the best looking weather.

[Edito]

This is not Gran Turismo 7 it's Gran Turismo Sports it has to be different than numbered Gran Turismo games and I don't think we should be blaming or pointing fingers to a studio that always did right to the fans since the psone days we should be supporting the new direction they are trying... and if we don't like then we wait for GT7 or play other racing games and there are many goods out there but their not GT...

[Rookie_Monster]

That is how I felt right now as well. As a big GT fan, this is so disappointing since it has 3 plus years of development since their last game and things like car count, sounds, technical graphics effects are all underwhelming at this point. A big contrast to what the series is most famous for.

Hype a bit derailed but still consider getting it since I need games for my PSVR.

[nix]

Captain,

Are you telling us that you were willing to compete with other players if or if it didn't rain? Captain, please call me when you win a race in Forza and you get selected to race in the real world.

[MagicBeanz]

Me too, I mean I only buy racing games with dynamic weather if they dont have it its total bullshit and not at all worth the money.

[riverstars86]

I would be happier with a GT6 Remaster than GT Sport. Locked 60 FPS, touch up the graphics, and surprise us with some additional content.

[never4get]

I like rain.

[Why o why]

The more information that gets released the more this sounds like GT lite. Maybe its a full game but it's not the real gran turismo. Not even comparable

[Snookies12]

Wow, major letdown honestly... Don't know how to feel about this.

[Eonjay]

You feel fine because its just a game.

[Eonjay]

Its just a game. I don't have to be personally invested to enjoy it and I don't need to satisfy you to be on this site. Seriously what is wrong with you that you.

[Paytaa]

"Just a game"? Okay Dad.

[dreadz74]

lmao wtf kinda answer is that ? Like saying meh if shirt is too small and missing a button just a shirt. Perhaps more like who cares if the car has 40 horsepower still drives right? SMH horrible answer man

[KiwiViper85]

Its not "just a game" though.

It's PD's first game on PS4

Was ND's first game on PS4 "just a game"?

[jcnba28]

Lol you will defend sony no matter what. Sad.

[mrkbizzle]

No don't feel fine ,u should demand better, u make it okay for these companies to keep making the entire industry worse by letting them keep overinflating these games and then u protect them over a brand name and a feelin of fitting in "my systems better than yours mentality" youre not being a smart consumer and it's this blind thinking that has made this studio and this generation of games a complete s___show. It's okay to say that something you like sucks and well deserved unless you like punishment then keep goin ahead and let them take your money but you will keep eating it.when a company uses these tactics the truth eventually reveals itself. It's a great white hype . another Rhonda rousey , more hype less reality

[Eonjay]

@Paytaa

No problem son.

[SonyWarrior]

be honest with your self if this is a letdown you werent going to buy it any way. you just feel the need to comment that on here to get some likes, like the other people that are in the same boat as you, to feel relevant

[OhMyGandhi]

Nah, I am a rather big GT fan myself, but if games like GRID, DriveClub, Forza, Need For Speed: SHIFT and others include it, I'd reckon that the reigning champ of Racing Simulators (Polyphony Digital) to include it as well.
Omitting it makes absolutely no sense.

[Goldby]

@rusted.

But do all thise titles you mentioned have VR Support and FIA recognition?

[USMC_POLICE]

I buy every GT and this disappoints me.

[BattleAxe]

It's no big deal....Just like you can go back and play PS3 games on your PS3 if you want to play old games, you can in this case, go back and play Driveclub if you want dynamic weather while you're racing.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Yet the article could've been titled "GTS will be 1080p 60fps with dynamic lighting, night racing, and a weather system". See how that makes it sound better.

[Rookie_Monster]

GT Sport does not have dynamic lighting, it is baked.

[TwoForce]

Well, at least we can set weather and time. But it still sound disappointing.

[Liqu1d]

No dynamic time and weather in a sim is disappointing.

[ShadowKnight]

Maybe we have to wait for GT7

[Movefasta1993]

yeah another 3 years,i mean we waited 3 years already why not?

[ShadowKnight]

I guess I'll just play Forza on my PC

[Exoil]

Yeah, it's going to fun participating in some endurance races and drive for hours in the same weather and time of day.

At least I'm going to be able to use the shadows as reference for braking..

[rainslacker]

Dynamic time I've seen in racing games seems to be it's noon, then two laps later it's dusk, then one lap later it's middle of the night.

[travestyj]

This is likely because it is a PSVR game and they need to keep it at a stable 60fps. Also before you compare it to Forza 6, it too does not have this.

[Movefasta1993]

Forza 6 got shitted on for not having it,people(fanboys) went at Forza 6's lack of dynamic time alll the time.

[mike32UK]

Look around, people are clearly not happy

[Liqu1d]

It also got defended by people (fanboys). Dynamic weather and time should be a standard in racing games.

[TROLLER123]

funny how that works, huh? now it dont matter because it will be 'fun'

[Ding]

travestyj9m ago
This is likely because it is a PSVR game and they need to keep it at a stable 60fps. Also before you compare it to Forza 6, it too does not have this.
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Its prob because the FIA want to control the conditions.. And GT 5/6 run @ 240FPS

http://kotaku.com/5093592/g...

[travestyj]

Both GT 5 and 6 ran at an unstable 60 fps. Your article is about some demo.

[Ding]

travestyj2h ago(Edited 1h ago)
Both GT 5 and 6 ran at an unstable 60 fps. Your article is about some demo.
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Yeah a demo of the PS 3 running prologue in 3840x2160 @ 60Hz [which didn't start to appear in stores until 5 years later], or 1920x1080 @ 240 Hz..

Clue little boy GT 5 and GT 6 ran in STEREOscopic vision... You do understand what stereo means don't you kid?? Here

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

you have GT 5 showing SIMULview, iow 2x people getting 2 different views from the SAME TV set.

GT 5/6 has support for multiple monitors, here is the UBERRACEr running 5 [not 4] 1080p TVs to give 9600x1080 resolution. That junior is 5x 60Hz= 300Hz/FPS.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Now what????

Kiddies today knowall, know f'all.. I suppose you fink the Neo and Scorpio are real eh kid??? lolololololol

http://www.engadget.com/201...

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Sony PS4 dev kit FCC filing shows off extra ports, 2.75GHz max clock frequency

Richard Lawler , @Rjcc
07.16.13
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Also of note is a "max clock frequency" listing of 2.75GHz, and although we don't know how fast the game system will run by default, it's interesting to hear what all that silicon may be capable of (as a commenter points out below, that may relate to the system's 8GB of GDDR5 RAM) while maintaining a temperature between 5 and 35 degrees celsius.
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Oooops... lolol

[CernaML]

You should try reading the articles that you link to you Ding Dong. That GT5 demo used FOUR Playstation 3s to run at 240fps.

[Tobsesan]

What a bummer, PS4 fans wont get it, since its the only reason to play racing games. Thats what they ALL said about forza. Hope they stay true and dont flipflop. Also wont play it if it looks worse than Driveclub I guess
/s

[dcbronco]

Better damage is more important than dynamic weather. The physics of a wet surface are great but I would prefer the great physics over a half assed attempt to do it all. These consoles aren't built for that.

[BG11579]

Seriously!? That sucks!!!!

[Movefasta1993]

:) i am not hating on gt,because if they can't do it as of right now they can't.But Man did Forza 6 get shitted on for not having it,people said last gen games like Gt6 had it but Forza 6 didn't.Hmmmm.Looks like Forza 6 was quite the impressive game after all.

[Ristul]

Forza is a fantastic game, I don't think anyone here will contest that, and I don't see anyone being happy about this or defend it, it is dissapointing to be sure.

[TheColbertinator]

Rather odd since every new GT adds more features not subtracts.

[corroios]

Just driveclub was able to do that

[Foehammer]

..at half the frame rate

fixed

[WeAreLegion]

I don't think people understand what this game is. Sony needs to clear that up. It was created almost exclusively as a platform for competition.

[Liqu1d]

That's why I'm interested in GT Sport. Pretty much every racing game online is a demolition derby when you race with randoms, hopefully etiquette is a lot better in GT Sport.

[Salooh]

If they wanted to know what it is they would ask what is going on. But no , they just want to complain. This is not GT7. This is like GT Academy + GT6.5 = GT sport. That's the vision. That's why it is not called GT7 because GT7 is coming next while this will do it's own thing..

Most are trolls. The comments are very unfair to the game...

[riverstars86]

That's fine, if we aren't going to get a full fledged GT game, at least remaster GT 6 for people who jumped to PS4 when the game was released.

[andrewsquall]

That's a shame. If anything makes Gran Turismo Sport worse than GT6 technical wise (and a few other current gen racers too), its this.

[Goldby]

Oh yes but everyone seems to forget thats its VR from day one. You cant just go into the code and add Vr enable:1.

Sacrifices were made yes. But to be all against it because there isny dynamic lighting or weather... Comon. Forza didnt have it and that is apparently a great game

[Concertoine]

I think you're being a little presumptuous to not consider that the same people who didn't like the lack of this feature in Forza COULD be the same ones disappointed in its removal from GT Sport.

[RiseofScorpio]

It was never in Forza. Here it was in the last installments then REMOVED.

[andrewsquall]

@Waluigi_isunderrated Exactly, the Forza series never had dynamic weather and shadows or day to night.

@Concertoine And yes correct, that is exactly how I feel.

@Goldby Forza games are apparently perfect even when it took them the 4th game to finally nail realistic handling like Gran Turismo. Even in the incredibly awesome 360 days (you know those amazing times when they would release a new Forza game with less cars and then spend the next 2 years releasing 400 quid of DLC until the next game when they do it all again) the game was applauded. Ah the good old memorable best of times 360 era. All they've done with Forza on Xbone is give away free content every now and again, who wants that?

[FlameWater]

So when you're doing a 24hr race just pretend the track's on Venus

[Fin_The_Human]

Lol....if the bubble system bwas still in play I would give you a bubble Sir flame water.

[Wallstreet37]

Many of us harped on and criticized Forza for this same reason so lets keep it 100. Im very disappointed about this and PD lately has been falling off. Yeah i get the 60fps, performance excuse but with ps4 power, less cars, not spectacular graphics (thought tht was the trade off already) and so much time they should have dynamic time/weather. Other GTs had it and its what made it cream of the crop imo.

The news out of Polyphony has not been promising at all.

[SonyWarrior]

dynamic weather is just a gimic that isnt realistic at all in any game its ever been implement into... i mean how can it go from day time to pitch black in a matter of 5 minutes during a race? how can it go from sunny 0 clouds and nice to down poring rain after 1 lap then back to sunny dry track next lap? This is a proper sim game so If they are going to do dynamic weather they should do it right and it should only really play a factor is on the races of endurance which is over an hour minimum race. no where on earth is weather so chaotic that it is changing so drastically in such a short period of time, most video game races are no more than 6 minutes.

[Speak_da_Truth]

Well you do know you can set it how fast you want it to transition right. In a game like Driveclub you can set it according to your liking so your argument is pointless.

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

I know i said in another GT Sport article about how i back him up 100%, but i won't be backing him on this!
Project CARS has dynamic weather and day & night cycle, why can't the PD team do it on here?
sorry kaz, but this is unacceptable!

Edit: I forgot about this! due to VR, ESports and FIA license, then that would be the reason why that it will be no dynamic weather and day & night cycle feature. So i'm back on backing him 100%. Totally forgot!

[Liqu1d]

Dynamic time and weather is important for endurance racing. Obviously if you don't care about endurance racing it isn't a big deal.

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

Well that's true. You can't call a race 24hr endurance if there isn't day & night cycle plus weather. Now i'm confused!

[dja1nhb]

lmao and to think not so long ago forza was getting slated for not having these features the all mighty powerful ps4 its all bollox imo

[Speak_da_Truth]

I won't even try to deny that because you are right.

[Goldby]

Except forza doesnt have VR support...

Some bollox box known as the ps4 can do that

[IamTylerDurden1]

But it will feature dynamic lighting and it will feature weather and night racing. This article title is an obvious attempt at slandering the game. It will feature 1080p 60fps gameplay as well. 1080p 60fps with dynamic lighting, night racing, and weather. Sounds good to me.

[Speak_da_Truth]

No dynamic weather of time of day. Time of day is static just like Forza.

[dja1nhb]

look it would be nice to have these features but the truth is these consoles are underpowered to run it all at 1080p 60fps but im happy that without all that they will get it to run perfect just like forza 6 with its 24 cars on track its still an impressive feat imo

[Vasto]

Time of day is not static in Forza Horizon 2.

Forza Horzion 3 is going to make this game look soooo baddddd. LMAO

[Kiwi66]

Did you even read the article as how can it be an attempt to slander the game when the dev himself said it won't have dynamic weather etc as they focused on framerate & image quality

[NeoGamer232]

Cutback for quality is a blatant lie. They cut these features to make the ship date. Just like they cut the beta.

Which is the wrong way to approach making a game. Maybe PD should take a trip to Naughty Dog's studio and figure out that game quality is more important then a ship date.

[Tobsesan]

Trust me, the launch of this game will be disaster and after driveclub they really should have made the beta. Cutting out features and only making a handfull of cars should really get people worried.

[Speak_da_Truth]

This id such a huge disappointment especially when GT6 had both dynamic weather and time of day. After Driveclub I was looking to GTS to fill my racing needs but as we keep getting more information i keep getting less interested but I'll just wait till close to release and see how it's shaping up.

[IamTylerDurden1]

The game features dynamic lighting, 1080p 60fps, night racing, weather, and an extremely deep online aspect. Enough propaganda bs about GT Sport.

[NotEvenMyFinalForm]

Another game for the bunch that can't even offer all the features its predecessor had. What a joke this gen has turned out to be.

[airforcex]

They're focusing on e-sport; you don't need dynamic weather. Weather is a feature people talk about when they have nothing else to talk about. Yes, it's neat, but not at the expense of steady frame rate.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

$9.99 for 1000 gas points to purchase weather for the game to highly increase the intensity and to immerse you into each race. 14.99 for 1500 gas points to have day and night cycle for 5 full races and a smashing cheap price of 19.99 to have all this bundled for 3 full laps. Your welcome suckers.

[Xavior_Reigns]

Lost all interest in this. Bye bye.

[dcbronco]

FIFTY PERCENT MORE POWER, good God yall! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing! Say it again.

[senorfartcushion]

Why bother?

I don't think that console needs another racing sim.

[psplova]

Honestly, I can think of a lot of other things a racing game needs in it, besides dynamic weather effects. It's cool I guess, but at the same time, it either doesn't add much to the experience or detracts from it, like the heavy rain effects in Driveclub. Yes, it looks awesome, I agree, but that's it. I don't get excited when I see that it's raining in Driveclub, that's for sure..

[Speak_da_Truth]

We are suppose to be on a console that is 10x more powerful than the Ps3 and also a lot easier to develop for and we've been waiting for this game for a long time yet features that were in GT5 & 6 are missing in GTS. You don't get excited about rain but that doesn't excuse them not having features found on lastgen games.

[rainslacker]

I have to agree. While I don't mind the option to play in various weather, or even have that weather dynamic, DC turned me off of weather effects in a driving game in a big way. Putting super cars on tight tracks with ridiculously dangerous weather conditions just wasn't fun to play, and the handling of the cars was more a chore than an enjoyable experience.

GT6 had some weather, at least rain, that was OK I guess. But I still didn't find it that fun to race in. I understand people that like the extra challenge, but if dynamic weather and time of day is the major selling point for one's racing experience, I have to question their motivations for playing a racing game.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

That's really disappointing. I figured they would go all out seeing how it takes a while to release a GT game.

[trainsgofast]

Boy could i have been more right? Driver Club Vs GT Sport = Arcade Vs SIM. Where's all that power at?

[Vasto]

Ouch

[joeorc]

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[trooper_]

Lots of 'concerned' trolls whenever these articles popped up. I guess people missed the part where they said they're doing this for quality reasons. Developers have their reasons for handling their games.

But you know, I'll probably get disagrees for being a 'Polyphony' apologist instead of common sense.

[Artemidorus]

Lackluster, does not deserve full retail.

[Thomaticus]

I'll stick with Driveclub. It's going to take more than a popular title to get me to spend money. They'll probably add VR support to get people to buy it.

[Drakul]

it is a huge disappointment. I hope they do not reduce those features to fix the game for VR s**t.

[Steptoe]

Seems another game comes out where they want to do less. Theres something definetley going on this gen. Do less for more.

[Jon_Targaryen]

So glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.

[Imalwaysright]

This is disappointing. GT games are always one of the main reasons why I buy Sony's consoles but I'm going to skip this one and pray that PD makes a true GT game before this gen ends.

[ElectricSponge]

I bet you if Forza Motorsport 6 was announced without no dynamic time or weather, we would be hearing how the Xbox One is weak, and how Forza Motorsport 6 is trash, but since Sony is worshipped, GT Sport gets a pass.

I personally don't care about GT Sport, but this is supposed to be a next-gen simulation car racing game, dynamic time and weather should be part of the experience.

[Kiwi66]

Forza 6 has been out for awhile now and it did get trashed by some for not having dynamic weather etc

[theFAYEsorceress]

i honestly don't see how sony is just letting this happen. it's not the biggest deal in the world, but seeing as other games had/have it now, there's no real reason that this game should leave it out. gt is sony's flagship racing game, and one of the, if not THE biggest racing game out there. you'd think they'd be pushing this to the absolute limits at this point. kind of disappointing really.

[Segata]

Semi on topic but why is there so few racers these days on consoles? You have the big ones like Forza and GT but not a whole lot in between. Kinda miss the days when you had a couple dozen choices on the shelf. Well I hope this turns out a good game. Driveclub was ok I guess. Just more into arcade than sim. Why I hope Nintendo's new Cruis'n Adventure hits NX. If GT sport turns into a game I want then I have 1 less reason to buy a XBO. (I only have a couple anyway)

[rainslacker]

Because they're kind of expensive to make nowadays with all the licensing going on. People want real cars, and that cost money to put in the game. People want as much detail as possible, and that cost money to develop. People want hundreds of cars to choose from, and that costs money to put in the game. If people were OK with an extremely realistic racer that didn't use real cars, then we'd probably see more of them. We still get plenty of the more arcade type racers, or those that just use different vehicles besides cars. It's also become a market where it's kind of hard to break into without serious financial backing for marketing, because the mainstays take up most of the attention.

[Master of Unlocking]

Well, the game is still gonna have night & rain racing, just not dynamic, but it's still kind of a bummer. They're gonna have to impress us with fully revamped destruction models and more than previous gen's 1080p @ 60fps then (like horizontal resolution pushed to real 1920 for ex.), or else I think I can predict this GT Sport could end up being a disappointment both for gamers and for Sony.

[NotanotherReboot]

Worst generation so far

[Saito]

I want a FlatOut game

[Nodoze]

Maybe if Kaz spent more time in the office instead of the race track these things would be part of the game. Same goes for damage modeling. At this point he is phoning it in on Sony's dime. It is ridiculous.

No damage, no weather, sounds from 1982.... Yeah sounds like a Simulator to me.

[Kyizen]

This is not GT5, but more like prologue and a online only racing sim. It is being treated as such.

[lildudexst]

Sweet new control can't wait to handle the super car with it. I know it just a little tease but hey I take it.. Not worrying about weather or the time of day at all that stuff can be added later like always. Better that reality control pat down then some rush control.. Can't wait for the final product.

[testerg35]

Can someone please explain the "it supports VR" reasoning? Does that mean that any title that supports VR will lose features and graphics quality? So users who play the game without VR will get shafted. The devs couldn't enable features if not using with VR?

[Fin_The_Human]

Yes you are correct...but this is why the Neo is needed and this is why you will have superior versions of games on the Neo vs the Ps4 vanilla.

[showtimefolks]

i think people are expecting gt7 when this is a different type of game as in GT:sport

judge games based on what developer is offering

[level 360]

I'm pretty sure the focus of this game is also to look for new talent, new drivers in motor racing events but why can't they implement realistic sound/audio and effects especially now that the game supports VR?

[joeorc]

Because of the way VR freaking works!

Example: few days ago , when the game was unvailed and only shown that it was 50% done every gamer centric web site ran the news and what did we see here..oh that looks like crap..oh' that looks no better than for a.

Now what many seem to overlook is that when making a game for VR you have to have to run [Two] tenets one for each eye..that means your frame rate is not split in VR that means you have to run 60fps per each eye minimum!

The Reprojection function is not tied to make up that frame rate..no the Reprojection function is tied to that of the PSVR screen, not to that of the native fps of the games. The native FPS of the game is what it is native.. Which if you are making a VR game has to be a min of 60fps if you do not want to have free induced motion sickness.

Do what the game is doing in VR is what ever its native FPS is that remains the same, what reprojection does is as the game is renders out the reprojection makes sure it can replace dropped frames of a game so as to keep as stable of a frame rate as it can , as fast as it can, that is why the PSVR has a 120Hz refresh rate locked.

The PS4 as it stands in the case of running a game in VR has to run a separate 60fps or higher at the very same time of the games image of the render in parallel! One render per each eye.

That's not just an single render split in half per eye. No its both a separate render and both running at the games native resolution and frame rate..what the reprojection does is just take the native frame drops and replaces them back into the render. As fast as it may drop.

Its doing this fast enough to keep the image coherent to keep up with the frame.

Example :
The reprojection output is by the PSVR screens FPS of the refresh rate of the PSVR screen. So as a game is passing through, its being passed through the screens refresh rate of 120Hz that allows the native games refresh rate to be carried along to that of the refresh rate of PSVRs screen Refresh rate instead of relying only on its on native Refresh rate.

Thus the games refresh rate stays like it does, if its 60fps it remains 60fps, reprojection puts back a lost frame because its faster than the native refresh rate of the game itself.

VR games taking advantage of reprojection , which by the way is [always on] in the case of using PSVR..

So what the PS4 is having to do is out put the full game twice: once per each eye. @ min 60fps at again full resolution. To be accepted by the gamer's.

Many have said over and over again how Forza has taken the crown of racing away from GT..well Forza did not have real time Weather or time. But yet if many claim it was crapped on by gamers , which is true, but on the same token now many still said it took the crown away from GT, so if GT sport is a racing Sim..whayd the difference now?

So if people want to have a go at those that lambasted those who stated Forza did not have real time time or weather effects..but than complain at those saying it, but then turn right around and throw it up in the fave of those and Forza took away the crown as being the best racer from GT.

Really does not make their argument stronger when Forza on the xbox one is not being done for VR, while GTSport is.

The big point is VR no matter if its PC or console , the systems output for VR gaming is going to have comprised output due to the way VR works. That's just the way it is.

[Good-Smurf]

I'll wait for E3 for more clarification...
A bit disappointed,there's a reason why PD and Sony removed direct feed videos from GTplanet.

[MagicBeanz]

Dynamic weather and sub 60fps and people bitched, they drop dynamic weather and give people 60fps and they still bitch, the recurring theme here is a Sony exclusive games will get nothing but whining and bitching no matter what.

[trooper_]

They can't win, lol.

[Scatpants]

This game is being made with VR in mind. They're going to have to make some compromises.

[jcnba28]

Lazy devs.

[2cents]

This game is getting less and less appealing to me each day.

[Nodoze]

For those that keep saying that this is a Simulator and that it does not need these features....are we to expect bumper cars due to lack of damage modeling as part of this simulation? So in the time since GT4 not much has really changed. Yes there are a few more shiny things, but overall it is the exact same game with some (not all) up-res'd models.

If anyone has played online in the past, you know full well that this is going to quickly become a bumper car simulator and will not in any way reflect real racing.

[Jon_Targaryen]

GT hasnt been the same since GT3.. GT4 was meh.. GT5 underwhelming, and got its server shut down within 3 years shortly after GT6 released. Then to make matters worse GT6 just ended up being a carbon copy op GT5 with more tracks adding nothing new anyways...

They played us like a damn fiddle.

[lnfiniteLoop]

bit crap when Driveclub managed to pull it off...

[Jon_Targaryen]

Yet another reason why DriveClub is the better game.