wonderfulmonkeyman2900d ago

These gender-biased lists need to die.
Seriously.

DiscoPete1172900d ago

And our gender-biased society doesn't..?

wonderfulmonkeyman2900d ago

Fair point, but at least the majority of our gender-based society doesn't make a point of showing absolute obsession over gender roles at every turn.
At least not consciously or venomously. [with the exception of hard-core feminists and the like, obviously]
The point is, there's no real point to these lists other than to say "Hey hey, look what women can do!"
We shouldn't need a list for that sort of thing any more than a list for when men are involved.

Paul_Cesar2900d ago

You agree that it's a fair point that we have a gender biased society, but then say "whatever we don't need these lists anway"?

Besides, this particular list should not even upset you. It's not about how much better these women are. It's about how they just happen to be more interesting than the lead characters. That's it.

Paul_Cesar2900d ago

"We’re not claiming any of these characters are better than the protagonist, just more interesting based on the above."

Which is why people should read things before they get mad.

wonderfulmonkeyman2900d ago (Edited 2900d ago )

More annoyed than upset, since there are plenty of incidents of this very same thing, irregardless of gender, amongst many games out there.
Yet it focuses specifically upon just the females.
For the record, I'd be just as annoyed with this, if it had been males pointed out instead.
I just want the whole "this specific gender" thing to stop.
Just because we live in a gender-based society doesn't mean we, let alone the majority of said society, should be paying an overt amount of attention to gender in every instance. [nor does my acknowledgement mean I like, nor agree, with society on many of the particulars of this topic, but that's a separate issue that I won't get into here]
This should be one of those articles where the gender of the side-kick shouldn't even need to be singled out as the focus, because that implies things the article makers most certainly wouldn't want to imply, that's all I'm saying.

Khaotic2900d ago

It could have just as easily read "Top 10 Supporting Characters More Interesting Than Their Leads" I mean I could care less but why does it have to specify gender at all if we are trying to bring about equality

ShaunCameron2900d ago

@ Khaotic

It specifies gender, because the author thinks that women are insecure and constantly need to be reassured that they matter. To sum it up, he's just pandering.

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Paul_Cesar2900d ago

@bruce755

You think the women who wrote this top 10 may be insecure? Insecure about what? Please elaborate. I gotta hear this. And before you start typing, consider the fact that broad (and very ignorant) statements like that about women are the reason feminism exists.

Now go ahead and explain why you think they're insecure and what you think they're insecure about.

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Spurg2900d ago (Edited 2900d ago )

10. Tostada (Guacamelee!)
She's the fricking main character as well

9. Chloe Frazer (Uncharted Series)
More interesting that drake????...nope

8. Ellie Langford (Dead Space 2)
It's been a while since I played DS2 but I certainly don't remember this character

7. Cortana (Halo)
She was been designed to be the interesting character

6. Evie Frye (Assassin’s Creed Syndicate)
She is the lead in this game

5. Zelda (Legend of Zelda series)
Dont play Zelda

4. Kat (Devil May Cry)
That thing is ranked higher than Cortana

3. Alyx (Half-Life 2)
Never played it

2. Rosalina (Super Mario Galaxy)
Never played it but judging by how this list is going she must be really mundane

1. Ciri (The Witcher 3)
I can agree with his to a level.

eyoung252900d ago

You seem to be having issues with your punctuation and spelling. Glad you had time to formulate all of these well defended thoughts but not enough time to check your spelling.

Khaotic2900d ago

It's not a term paper, it's a comment on a gaming site. Don't be that guy unless you're perfect at everything.

BC-SocialLink2900d ago

@khaotic Ok, his spelling and grammar can be excused. His half sentence responses as to why he disagrees cannot. If he had so many issues with the post, he could elaborate a little more.

laurawrdeadly2900d ago

You play as Jacob more often than Evie. And it's a split lead, why not just have Evie? Jacob is more interested in his gang while Evie is actually trying to help the assassins. Why even have her paired with a guy that really has no bearing on the overall arch of the assassin story?

medman2900d ago

How you make a list like this without including Ellie from The Last of Us is beyond me. I don't get it.

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DasTier2900d ago

Lol what, Cortana sucks.

Then again so does this list

PaleMoonDeath2900d ago

If I must, 1# The Boss, the Mother of mothers, WHERE IS HER PREQUEL?!

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The 7 Best Western RPGs: Immersive Adventures

RPGs are often huge, sprawling endeavours. With limited playtime, we have to choose wisely, so here's the best western RPGs available today.

SimpleSlave28d ago

"I started playing games yesterday" the List... Meh!

How about a few RPGs that deserve some love instead?
1 - Alpha Protocol - Now on GOG
2 - else Heart.Break()
3 - Shadowrun Trilogy
4 - Wasteland 2
5 - UnderRail
6 - Tyranny
7 - Torment: Tides of Numenera

And for a bonus game that flew under the radar:
8 - Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden

DustMan28d ago

Loved Alpha Protocol in all it's glorious jank. Great game.

SimpleSlave28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Not only glorious jank, but the idea that the story can completely change depending on what you do, or say, or side with, makes it one of the most forward thinking games ever. The amount of story permutation is the equivalent of a Hitman level but in Story Form. And it wasn't just that the story changed, no, it was that you met completely new characters, or missed them, depending on your choices. Made Mass Effect feel static in comparison.

Alpha Protocol was absolutely glorious, indeed. And it was, and still is, more Next Gen than most anything out there these days. In this regard at least.

Pity.

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The most disappointing and infamous video game endings even sour the overall thoughts of a game. Most of these titles represent some of the finest entries in their respective series, marred by an ending we can't quite forgive.

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banger8829d ago

Far Cry 5....bullshit. This game had a great ending imo.

MrNinosan29d ago

There is no game called Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2, but Rebirth had a great ending imo. Felt robbed by the ending at first, but the more I've seen it and during my 3rd playthrough, I started to understand and realize a lot more that make me appreciate the ending.

Nerdmaster29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I was enjoying FFVII Remake, even though those whispers throughout the game were annoying. But the ending was so bad that I don't even want to play Rebirth. On top of that, from what I saw on reviews, the ending of Rebirth is even worse.

Also, I'm glad to see Zero Time Dilemma being recognized as the trainwreck it is. After the amazing two first games (especially the near perfect second one), the low quality of the trilogy end is baffling. The new characters are bad, the old characters don't feel like themselves, a surprise "alien technology" pops out of nowhere, the big twist was like "eh?", and it doesn't really finish the story nor explains the loose threads from the second game.

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Given the medium's wild diversity, this primer of the essential video games everyone should try is a good place to start.

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thorstein52d ago

.... from the 2000s (mostly).

shinoff218352d ago

I can't fk with this list. They missed on alot of games probably before the writers times. Also I know people loved some portal but I was never a fan.

Cacabunga52d ago

Tomb Raider 1
Driver 1
Abe’s Odyssey
FF6
King of Fighters 94
Mortal Kombat OG
LINK 2 the past
Street Fighter 2
Resident Evil 1

Inverno52d ago

Infinite but not the first two games? Witcher 3 but not the first two games?? GTA V but not literally any of the games before it??? Portal 2 but not the first? Also if you're going to play Shadow of The Colossus play the remaster and not the remake. Can't say I disagree with the list but my man it's all over the place.

Name Last Name52d ago

I mean some sequels are objectively better and you don’t need to play the whole series.

Inverno52d ago

But most of these games have a story to follow, sure you can catch up with a YouTube vid but where's the fun in that?

LucasRuinedChildhood52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

A list like this isn't telling you not to play the previous games if you want to. It's just giving you legendary games to play.

But tbh, you don't always have to force yourself to play every entry in a franchise to get to the better ones.

- The vast majority of Witcher 3 players never played the first 2 and had a great time. The first 2 games aren't in the same league.
- The GTA games are self-contained with the odd fun reference. You can easily jump into any of them.
- The Shadow Of The Colossus remake looks and controls better than the original (plus it has a 60fps option while the remaster is just 30fps). New players will enjoy it more.
- Portal 2 is a lot better than Portal 1 and takes the concept much further gameplay-wise. Storywise, Portal 1 is fairly light too. Not that you shouldn't play it but realistically ... you'd love Portal 2 whether you play it or not (at lot of Portal 2 players have never played 1).

Bioshock 1 is the only one I agree with you on simply because it's one the best games of all time and arguably better than Infinite. No other setting like Rapture.

Looking at the list, I'd recommend playing Uncharted 1 before 2 but no doubt, 2 is the legendary one you have to play.

Inverno52d ago

I get it, but that's just my opinion on his opinion. I just think that before you play a sequel you should still play what came before it. Maybe it's just me but i find it fascinating playing through the first game in a series and seeing how it has evolved through its sequels. Like I said I don't disagree with the list, other than SoTC which I strongly believe the remaster of the original should be played above the remake.

AuraAbjure51d ago

Awesome list! Hot take on Fear (and it's hard af expansion Persaus Mandate!) Bioshock Infinite is stellar, so is the Witcher 3 and you nailed it by having Ocarina of Time. So many fantastic games! Gotta play 'em all! Next one on my list is Prey after I beat Dead Space 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

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