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Love Dark Souls? Try These

Pixelgate writes:

''With the Dark Souls series coming to a close, there’s a number of people looking to fill the void. While replaying the series time and time again still provides enjoyment, there’s other games that offer similar delights.''

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Phil322901d ago

Dark Souls (or the Souls series in general) is one I have yet to play. I want to start with Bloodborne when I get a PS4, as I've read that's the easiest to get into.

PixelGateUk2901d ago

Bloodborne is a lot more faster in general play, but it does offer a good entry into the series. The story is great too, if you're willing to do a little bit of detective work...and don't mind the odd grim discovery

sullynathan2901d ago

Better off starting with Dark Souls 1 or Demon Souls since it is the og. I'd recommend Dark Souls 1 PC since it still has thousands online.

Mithan2901d ago

Listen to my story Phil:
I tried Dark Souls 1, three or four years ago. Sold it the same evening after getting my ass handed too me about 40 times. Wrote the game off as crap and ignored the series.

Last year, I was recovering from a subdural hematoma (brain bleed) and had nothing better to do, but I was reading a bunch of posts about how excited everybody was for BloodBorne. So that night before release.. since I was super bored, I went and purchased it on the Playstation Store and set it to download.

The next day, I woke up at 7am and proceeded to... die. Lots. In the first 3 or 4 hours, I probably died about 300 times, maybe 400. Yes I sucked that bad. I was thinking "wtf did I buy this piece of garbage for" and walked away and took a couple hour break, less I suffer another brain bleed...

Then I came back to the game and tried again, except this time I noticed I was actually more relaxed and getting a bit further along each time. After another couple hours, I made it to the first boss and died a couple times, then I killed him and crapped my pants. This kept me going actually...

Then a magical thing happened... the game "came together". It just "clicked" in my head on how I had to play, and in the next week I blew through the entire game and finished it, and a half the bosses I killed in one or two shots.

A few weeks later, I tried Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the Sins edition on the PS4 and... tossed the joystick into the garbage and said never again, until a few weeks ago when I was bored one night and pulled it out again, because the Dark Souls 3 hype got to me.

Guess what? In ONE single life, I made it half way to the first boss in Dark Souls 2, then after a couple hours, I killed the first boss in one try. The second boss (pursuer) took about 40-50 tries for me to figure out, but then the big "click" happened again and I was off to the races, blowing through the entire game with maybe 3 or 4 more bosses that gave me grief. Hell I think the "tough fire forge boss" only took me 3 or 4 tries to kill him.

Basically, the game is not just hard, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE until you figure out how to play it, then it becomes a very awesome and amazing game. You just have to realize that this isn't a game where you push buttons and hope you kill something, you just need to actually research a bit into what your doing, then you will become awesome and explore very amazingly detailed worlds that pull you through with an awesome sense of discovery.

I have not played Dark Souls 3 yet, probably saving it for the fall, but I got it on the PC and look forward to it in 60FPS glory on my 1440p 980 Ti Gsynched system.

These games should NOT be missed. YOu just need to figure them out.

Have fun.

Phil322901d ago

Thanks for the extensive write-up, Mithan! I'm definitely going to give the series a try.

metalgod882901d ago

Although hard to find these days, I would suggest Kings Field. They were made by From Software back in the day and its obvious that they were always headed toward the direction of Dark Souls, but had to wait for the hardware to catch up to their creativity.

PixelGateUk2901d ago

I had that down on the list but given it was made by From Software it felt like a cheap pick. There's a fair few emulators that run it nicely for those curious though

metalgod882900d ago

Yeah, I would feel the same way if I were the one writing the article too. Maybe a good honorable mention at most. Although they were made by From with similar ideas, the gameplay is completely different from the Souls series.

A game that I absolutely have to mention is 3D Dot Game Heroes. Its a game nobody ever talks about and even has a nice Souls reference. Its very 'Zeldaesque' but its got some hardcore difficulty thrown in for extra challenge which fans of the Souls series might enjoy.

tanukisuit2900d ago

Ring of Eternity on PS1 is like a lite version of kings field - a good entry, too

sullynathan2901d ago

Dragons Dogma is nothing like the souls series except for having great combat. Salt & Sanctuary is pretty good but almost a blatant rip-off.

PixelGateUk2901d ago

''The open world MMOish nature of the game may not seem like it has much similar to Souls, at least at first. As soon as the big creatures start to appear, and combat is in full flow, suddenly things start to feel slightly familiar.''

That's litteraly straight from the post lol

Salt & Sanctuary isn't exactly a rip off given it does some things Dark Souls does not. For a game made by two people, it puts most actual rip offs (sup Lords of the Fallen) to shame

sullynathan2901d ago

If lords of the fallen can be called a rip off then so can salt of sanctuary. Salt of sanctuary takes far more than design cues from dark souls. It's almost a 2D dark souls clone.

You are proving my point as to why Dogma shouldn't be on this list.

PixelGateUk2901d ago

You're welcome to make your own list. All i ever see you post in negatives or attempts arguments. You tried it on my Doom post yesterday as well, though that one was really bizarre. You even said Dragon's Dogma's combat has a similar vibe, hence its appearance on the list.

Also by your logic anything that uses the Metroid-like design is a 'rip off'.

But aye, i'd more than welcome you to post your suggestions and expose games to people :)

sullynathan2901d ago (Edited 2901d ago )

I never said DD combat had a similar vibe with souls combat, it doesn't. I only said that both games have very good combat which is true. Doesn't mean I would recommend DD to a souls fan just because both games have good combat. It'd be like recommending Baldur's Gate 2 or Divinity original sin to a souls fan because both of those games also have good combat.

Salt and sanctuary use souls terminology, it has the same vibe as dark souls, has the same methodical combat the requires you to watch for enemy attack patters. The opening menu and even the UI is reminiscing of dark souls. Has the same invisible/fog walls that block your paths to a boss, has the same bonfire system, has the same system in which your character dies and has to recover their souls back for experience even took bloodborne's version of an enemy absorbing your souls if it kills you. Has the the same summon style co-op and more. I'm sorry but if you're going to call lords of fallen a dark souls rip off then salt & sanctuary will have to be called the same.

PixelGateUk2901d ago (Edited 2901d ago )

like i said, nothing stopping you from posting your own list here. I posted mine ,gave reasons for the choices. Given our previous encounters i don't think we'll ever agree :)

As for Salt, have you played it? are you ignoring the skill system? the platofrmer mechanics? the whole 'Metroidvania' theme? rip offs don't do anything different, they're just straight up imitations. That would make about 95% of games on the current market a rip off by your view

sullynathan2901d ago

I'm playing salt right now. The leveling system is a difference but I have yet to level up.

SinkingSage2901d ago

Try Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, it's like First Person Dark Souls.

SinkingSage2901d ago

And if you want to go more old school, I highly recommend the Soul Reaver series, although not as difficult, the bleak world and excellent quasi-apocalyptic storytelling are similar and both deal with souls and strategic weapon combat, although not as polished.

SinkingSage2901d ago

?? Of course, if every game is a 1:1 copy, we're doomed, it's great that these games are similar yet different. If every game was Dark Souls, Dark Souls wouldn't be special.

Ra3v3r2901d ago

I like the puzzle approach of Titan Souls. It's purely boss fights but it likes to kick your ass even when you know how to beat the puzzle.

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The prevalence of parrying: Why is it so popular?

Parrying has been creeping into more games, with almost every high-profile title of the last few years featuring it in some way.  Why?

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phoenixwing37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

i understand the authors frustration i'm not the best at parrying in games. not that i can't complete a game that requires it but it is a definite harder thing for me than other kinds of techniques in games. which might be the main reason it's so heavily added in games nowadays. want to make your game challenging without having to do a lot of work? just add a parry boss. (what i mean by parry boss is a boss you have to beat by parrying such that their attacks will kill you otherwise)

Dudeson37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

I always think it's fine as long as such games also have the roll/dodge panic button. But I understand the will to parry, it seems so cinematic in a fight when you pull it off.

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Dragon's Dogma Is Still Amazing

Although the sequel is on the near horizon, the original Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen remains a fantastic action RPG, still worth playing.

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jznrpg55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

A lot of the quest lines in Skyrim are good(not all and they don’t add up as a whole if you do thieves guild mage fighters guild etc) The dragons are very lame after the first few times and the combat is clunky as it always has been. The stupid sprint button is ridiculous.

Overall I agree DD is the better rpg game.

Both have theirs strengths and weaknesses but Skyrim should be so much more being the 5th game in Elder Scrolls series.

Excited to see what they add on to DD 2.

Unfortunately all they have done to Elder Scrolls since Morrowind is take things out (minus the sprint button which is so lame because you can kill dragon god like creatures but can’t run for more than ten seconds without getting tired)

anast54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

I liked the vampire questline and the return to Morrowind was okay, but the problem with Skyrim was the lack of consequence. There is almost no point in the quests. After I realized this, I started messing around with the mods and then quit playing. Though, I did spend 300 hrs. on modded content, but this is telling of how bad the game kind of is.

If DD was the size or close to the size of Skyrim, It would have been the primer fantasy game back then. I hope they up the size with DD2.