Has the 360 finally cracked Japan?

Symbiotestudios writes: "Earlier this month the Xbox 360 managed to bathe in the spotlight, selling out all over Japan at the launch of Bandai-Namco's 'Tales of Vesperia', an anime RPG exclusive to the console. Evidently this is good news for Microsoft, their machine been struggling to meet that 1million target for almost three years now, a goal which Microsoft originally expected to top by Summer 2006, and with the success of one RPG in Japan, Microsoft must be jumping for joy in the fact that they've secured a handful of Square-Enix titles. Sold out everywhere and more RPGs to come, have Microsoft finally hammered the nail right?"

[HighDefinition]

Or FF13 would DEFINITLY be coming out there, which it`s not.

[DavidMacDougall]

It will never crack Japan in my opinion. Its been out for ages and its done nothing. Playstation had a slow start and its ahead of them ,there is no catching up to be done

[Bnet343]

Probably not, but if you want JRPG's or even WRPG's or any RPG's, you can't look no further then Xbox 360.

[Too_Hyped]

@Kigmal : I disagree. Even for RPG I don't see what 360 has that PS3 doesn't.

PS3 has Oblivion, Disgaea, Folklore, all these are good rated games (rated ok for Folklore, not as good), with Disgaea and Folklore as exclusive RPGs. Plus, you'll have FF Vs XIII only on PS3...

And you can play tons of great PS2 RPG on your PS3 too (Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, FF XII, King Quest...) Heck, they continue to make some exceptional ones on PS2 (Persona series).

X360 has some more JRPGs, but honestly none of them had exceptional reviews, they're all okay games, except Mass Effect, but you can play it better on PC, so I don't see why you would buy a 360 for RPGs. I wanted too, but I gave up on the idea after reading the average Tales and Infinite Undiscovery reviews...

[kinggeoff]

reviewers are only posting personal opinions, never know what games might be great.

I think that was the dude's point though. For JRPGs and RPGs in general, 360 has a good thing going on. PS3 is no slouch, so it's good to have both

[BulletToothtony]

do these people really think that there was only 10,000 units in stock in japan to say that it sold out??

Come on now... the 360 doesn't do well in japan but it does great in the u.s... there is no need for them to spin things in order to make it seem like the 360 is gonna make a comeback..

I'm glad the 360 is a good competition to sony.. it has kept them on their toes and producing more and more games... but please stop with the 360 on japan doing great now.. it's lame

[beoulve]

LOL keep writing article to convince western audience that XBOX 360 cracked Japan. Yeah keep on writing that. Maybe you can convince all the western audience but still Japan consumer is who make the purchase. So far back to 4k of xbox 360 is not at all. PS3 still double the sales of XBOX 360, but both of them not even the close to Wii.

[KingME]

The thought of the 360 doing well in Japan really has a lot of you folks up in arms. Why is that? If the 360 does well in Japan, this could only be a good thing no matter how you look at it. Except of course if you're so caught up in your mindless ways that you'd rather see the 360 destroyed in all territories regardless to what it does to the gaming world as a whole. Just so you can claim the PS3 won the console war. Then what? Now that that's over what's next?

I guess if this does happen some day, it'll just give you something else to whine about. Like, "why won't Sony do this?", "why don't Sony do that?". I'll tell you why, because they have no competition that's why. So, buy you copy of Resistance 15 and shut up.

[dro]

NO, nothing can save the 360 over there bcuz FF13 is exlusive to the ps3, that game is obviously on top of japanes pple list more than any other RPG the 360 can offer and ms knows it.

i wont be suprised if the go to square with £50 million to make it not exlusive to the ps3 in japan XD

[AAACE5]

People have so much hate for the 360 that they don't realize what it represents!

With nintendo and it's wii innovation, MS and their FPS games... That has put sony in the position to try to stand out! Nintendo and MS have basically took alot of would be developers away or are sharing them with Sony. Sony has to find a new niche. Which is why you are getting Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Flower, Mag, LBP, and all the other games that make you a proud Ps3 owner!

Without this competition, Sony might not have had the pressure to do something truely remarkable for gamers by making Little Big Planet!

I'm sure, if MS and sony thought they could get away with it... they would give us a few games we love... and then a lot of garbage games... kind of like what nintendo does!

So, it's Ok if someone doesn't like MS/ sony... but you shouldn't want either one out of the console war, cause it could lead to a dismal future for gaming!

Sorry KingMe, part of that was at you, the other part was a speech.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

in my opinion, when MS can consistently sell at those spikes for more than a week, and keep the momentum going for a month or 2 (even longer) then i'll say they are BEGINNING to crack Japan

[Drealmcc0y]

Well 360 is the RPG king atm

[rawd]

I think you meant the 360 is the King of male ATM

[juuken]

...No.

[foodbox]

Xbox 360 is the king of J and W RPG. No doubt about it, and the J market keeps demanding JRPG titles.

Infinite Undiscovery and Final Fantasy are going to keep the Japanese momentum going.

Without a doubt, the Xbox 360 has broken the Japanese market.

Good news for all gamers.

@1.4

The point is very clear: The Japanese are buying the Xbox 360 to play games. You're just bending over backwards to apologize. There are *more* japanese-oriented titles coming, and the Xbox 360 will get its bumps at that time too. Taken together, the Xbox 360 *will* continue to improve its Japanese market -- will it "win" Japan? No. But Sony needs Japan more than MS does. And, it is quite clear that the Xbox 360 owns America -- and America is the largest and most important market.

[juuken]

...No.

The Japanese go where the rpg's are. Once they have their fill of it, they go back to whatever they were doing before. It's clear that 360's are not well received in Japan. They're only well received when the 360 gets rpg's.

But to crown them as the king of rpg's when this generation cycle isn't even over?

No.

EDIT: Disagreeing with facts? Then how come the sales of Tales of Vesperia went waaaaay down after it's release? How does Microsoft intend to crack the market when they can't even keep consistent numbers in Japan?

[morganfell]

King of RPGs? Hardly. That is the PS2 you are thinking about. A still valid console that has walloped the 360 numerous times.

And face the facts. if you can't sell 6400 units a week over a 156 week period in a country as electronics savvy as Japan, then that should tell you something about the low grade junk quality of the 360.

Xbox 360 - The Freddy G. Sanford of consoles.

[Pain]

I find it MASSIVELY funny that Xbots are Hypocrites.

2007. Xbots Retards would say.. : JP rpg's suck and r for Japstation 3 .... Western RPGs Kill that FF big hair emo crap....

2008 Xbots retard kids say : WWWW JP RPG's on XBOX 2 r da Best wooo Xbox 2 number 1!!!! Final fantasy is Koolz yalll!!!....

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[zo6_lover27]

"Infinite Undiscovery and Final Fantasy are going to keep the Japanese momentum going."

A new IP and a game not even coming out for the 360 in Japan are supposed to keep the Japanese momentum going?

You sure?

[AuToFiRE]

no.

final fantasy isnt being released ont he 360 in japan, and just one week of 360s selling everyone is saying "oh the 360 is the king of japan" no its not, they had a super low amount of 360s in japan as it was because it wasnt selling, i think they have a stock of 25,000 in japan? thats not hard to sell out

[Dyingduck]

"Evidently this is good news for Microsoft, their machine been struggling to meet that 1million target for almost three years now, a goal which Microsoft originally expected to top by Summer 2006..."

So this is like giving the award for Most Improvement to the worst guy? ROFL!

[Omega4]

Well they're certainly doing better, an average of 4,000 a week is better than an average of 1,000

[sajj316]

No, hardware sales went back to lackluster the week after Tales release. PSP overtaking DS monthly sales is cracking Japan. Not even the PS3 has cracked Japan, who right now is Nintendo land.

[juuken]

...What?

Sales went back down after Tales of Vesperia. You need a powerhouse like FFXIII to move the Japanese people even further. And since this isn't even coming on the 360 in Japan...it's just stupid to assume Microsoft made a dent in Japan.

And Jenzo, what gamers are you referring to? 360 fanatics or gamers in general?

Riiiight.

Is that why Infinite Undiscovery received a 7.1 on IGN, one of the most respected sites when it comes to games and reviews?

[foodbox]

Are those tears we hear?

Infinite Undiscovery, Cry-On, Blue Dragon 2, Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4... the Xbox 360 has *piles* of JRPG titles comign that cater directly to the Japanese market.

The PS3 is a MPAA-DRM wet-dream disguised as a game-machine; sorry, Sony overplayed its hand and has been left out this generation.

[juuken]

Lol, does it look like I'm remotely crying?

And how the f*ck do you hear tears?

What an idiot.

You're the one trying to convince everyone the 360 is the king of rpgs. While I commend them for making a much better effort this time around...I wouldn't say they've cracked anything.

Why do I have to cry when I have an idea of how the Japanese market works?

The PSP is the true king of rpg's at the moment, not the 360. The PSP is extremely popular in Japan. Once the Japanese have their fill of rpg's on the 360, they head back to either the DS or the PSP.

Loooooool piles of rpg's coming? Keep thinking that way buckaroo. If the 360 had piles of rpg's coming...then why haven't we heard about them yet?

[InMyOpinion]

Who cares about the markets. The 360 has more and better jrpgs than the PS3, that's what matters to gamers.

[DevastationEve]

why are there ps3 fans in this section? it's posted under 360!

[Drealmcc0y]

360 has the best RPGs out atm, are you denying that?
LOLERS

Edit:
Heyheyhey
Why are you talking about sales?
When was I talking about sales?
Also since when did sales = quality
Wii is owning PS3 and the 360 in sales. Does that mean it has the best RPG's? errrrr no! You PS3 fanboys are so easy to own, just keep it coming

[heyheyhey]

no.... yet the PS3 still kicks it's ass weekly and will continue to do so

EDIT: erm, maybe because this article is about ->SALES<-?

if you are talking about quality then you are actually being off-topic.... idiot

i don't know about PS3 fans... but owning 360 fans is like taking candy from a baby, nay, feotous

they're always making moronic statements

[heyheyhey]

lol what? hell no....

yeah the 360 got lucky with FF13 being on the console, but it still doesn't change the fact that it dies in Japan when the game launches

not to mention that Japan will never, EVER appreciate a defective, American product

@foodbox

ok usually i respond to people who reply to me.. but that post was so goddamn stupid i'd be here all day correcting it..... damn, how can you look at yourself knowing you know so little about how the industry you love works... SO little

[foodbox]

"yeah the 360 got lucky with FF13 being on the console"

Tales of Vesperia caused the spike. Infinite Undiscovery (and Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Eternal Sonata)

Cry On, Blue Dragon 2, Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean 4 and Last Remnant -- and some number of unannounced titles -- are inbound.

The Japanese market **WILL NOT** ignore the home of RPGs: The Xbox 360.

"but it still doesn't change the fact that it dies in Japan when the game launches"

The PS3 is already dead in Japan. Wii is kicking both the Xbox 360 and PS3 in console sales. Thats not going to change. Where does that leave the PS as a brand? In *VERY VERY VERY* bad shape. PS needs Japan. It has already lost.

MS has an incredible assault on Japan's core gamers on the way, and the industry damn well know it -- and the Japanese gamers arent foolish, they damn well know it too.

"not to mention that Japan will never, EVER appreciate a defective, American product"

Snore. The Xbox 360 heat issues were fixed more than a year ago. And the PS2 had **terrible** hardware failure rates (I suspect you too young to know better) -- and yet the market still gave the PS2 a great run. Why? Because its about more than a little hardware issue at launch - its about the long haul, and the Xbox 360 is *very well* positioned to continue its strong 1st place position (yes, 1st in total sales games + consoles, the Wii sold many units, but its a novelty)

The heat issues are long ago resolved, and yet here you are, talking FUD. Its just sad.

Face it, the Japanese market *will not* choose to ignore the best games -- that is why they will increasingly buy the Xbox 360.

With the New Xbox Experience (NXE) and the new attention it will recieve,

Heck, we havent even heard of the games we'll be getting in 2009! The 2008 Library still has *massive* titles on the way; Gears 2, GTAIV DLC, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts and other top-flight titles are going to dominate the rest of 2008.

Again: Japanese gamers are not going to just ignore the best games, they are going to buy Xbox 360s if they want to play the best titles in the industry.

[dro]

lets be honest here the 360 rite now offeres more rpg games than the ps3,even tho TOV sales went down alot at least ms is making an effort on rpg games, sony is still showing there arrogance in that section,but since FF13 is exlusive to them over there i can see y they are not really bothered, but it will be nice if sony start bringing out RPG games alot like the 360 dose in japan.

[juuken]

They're making an effort and I agree with that but I wouldn't start handing out crowns. That's stupid, considering the 360 is a much older console than the PS3 and we're barely into two years of the PS3 lifecycle.

EDIT: foodbox...are you stupid or something? For a console that's *far* behind, it outsold the 360 despite pricecuts and DESPITE rpg's. I don't know about you but I still have my PS2. In fact, I own a PS1, PS2, PS3 and a PC. I'm about to own a Wii and a PSP very soon.

Why are you acting as if the PS3 has no rpg's when it obviously does? You're acting as if 20 rpg's are raining from the sky for the 360 or something.

Microsoft cannot crack the Japanese markets with unimpressive numbers like that.

You try to write intelligently and yet you failed.

Jenzo: "Wrong again."

And you would know the concept, wouldn't you?

"The 360's technology is not older."

Yes it is. The 360 is still using DVD9. The 360 is a last gen console because it's been on the market for around three years. Would you call the 360 new technology? Because I don't see it as a new console...?

"The PS3 was delayed because they couldn't produce enough blu-ray lasers as was needed."

I am not talking about delays moron. I said that the PS3 is a much younger system than the 360.

"You just keep lying."

You just keep pulling comments out of your bloody ass. I did not mention anything about delays and yet you're talking about delays. You would know all about delays, wouldn't you dearest Jenzo? IPTV? Alan Wait? The *rumored* Halo 4? Did Halo Wars fall from the face of the earth?

[foodbox]

The PS3 isnt "much older" -- it was delayed, it was *late* to market. It was scheduled for launch at the same time.

If you think Sony can wait until November 2016 (10 years) before it releases the PS4, you've lost your mind.

The PS2 has a "10 year lifespan", but really, the PS2 is being sold to replaced broken PS2s, or for children (etc). In the market, the PS2 is irrelevant.

Do you still play your PS2? I dont know anyone who does, they've all moved to the current generation.

And, Sony's big failure at launch has sunk the PS brand. It is last this gen, and that is not going to change. Will not happen.

The Xbox 720 will launch in 3-6 years, but the Xbox 360 will be avialable (just as the PS2 is today) but the Xbox 360 will live on much more as a Entertainment Hub, Social Games, Xbox LIVE Arcade titles and such.

The same thing will happen to the PS3, we *will* see the PS4 come and take away the core-gaming market from the PS3. All this "10 year lifecycle" shait is just PR BS. The PS3 is *already* too far behind, it will remain that way.

[InMyOpinion]

Wrong again. The 360's technology is not older. The PS3 was delayed because they couldn't produce enough blu-ray lasers as was needed. You just keep lying.

[RyuStrife]

if you want JRPG play PSone(Non-PS2 bc plays these too) or PS2 games on BC PS3s. There you go. It's not like the 360 doesnt have it either. YOu can go back and replay all of those RPGs and still have fun, seriously. While you wait for the "this-gen/next-gen" rpgs(except some are already out on the 360 but for PS3 owners, they can wait for more to come, There are some RPGs already) to come out, you can always enjoy the PS2/xbox library of RPGs. I'm sure you haven't play all the RPG on the ps2. King of rpg? I'd say wait, and enjoy the old games.

[Kill Crow]

Seriously. Are any of you even Japanese? Do you Care?

... Thought not.

[InMyOpinion]

I don't. I'm just happy we're getting so many RPGs this fall =)

[Too_Hyped]

@Jenzo : Too bad none of them delivered well according to the reviews. Their marks don't exceed PS3 exclusive RPGs like Disgaea 3 and Folklore. Still better rankings than Too Human, though.

[kinggeoff]

still being used as a yardstick in these pssing contests?

given what we know of reviewers (see perfect halo3, gta4, mgs4 etc scores..and more to come) why do people still state these review scores as if it mattered?

[steck67]

Im half Japanese, but I dont care about this, I mean it's just sales, it's not like were getting the profit or anything.

[SaiyanFury]

Despite what the article states, Square-Enix or Namco-Bandai have not confirmed those games to be exclusive on the 360. Timed exclusive, I can see that happening. But releasing Star Ocean 4 only on 360 would be financial suicide to S-E. Star Ocean has a strong core following, but it's not widely loved like Final Fantasy. The main bulk of the SO franchise is in Japan and I doubt that most of them own 360s. No doubt it would spike some sales as Tales of Vesperia did, but ultimately the better sales would be on PS3.

[SaiyanFury]

Hello Disagreement Phantoms. If you have a different view of things please give your own views as to why I'm wrong?

[dro]

even tho the 360 has not cracked japan most pple just dont want to admit that the 360 offers more RPG games than the ps3 at the moment, is that a good thing or a bad thing!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[rhood022]

It depends.

It's good that there are more RPGs but so far they are proving to be mediocre affairs. The only exception is Lost Odyssey.

So "good" and "bad" are based solely on whether you consider quantity or quality in the mix.

[AAACE5]

Since technically the 360 is suppose to be sold out in japan... It would probably be better if people judge 360's drop in sales when there are 360 are sitting on shelves not being purchased!

Just seems logical I think...

[strotee]

Wait, MS wanted to hit 1 million by summer 2006? Sadly, they were off by about 3 years.

After 2.5 years, they are at roughly 700,000, they would need to sell 6000/week (average) for 52 weeks to sell an additional 312,000 and then they'll finally "crack" 1 million.

Face it, MS hasn't cracked anything in Japan.

Edit: After doing some calculations and using numbers from VGChartz (I know, I know), Japan has accounted for 3% of all 360 sales. 3%, people. That's unbelievably sad.

[felidae]

eehm. do my games get any better when the 360 sells good in japan?

no, so who TF cares about sales?

play games - not consoles.

[pegger24]

if you like RPGs then the games actually get better the more it doesn't sell in Japan. If it already sold well, the Microsoft wouldn't have put as much effort into diversifying their games portfolio. I hope it just barely gets better over the coming year so Microsoft still has to work hard to improve it, meaning the possibility of more great games

[kinggeoff]

with pegger

it's good times

[Says you]

Its already 2 million it didn't take them 3 years to break a million even if the XBox 360 broke a million it doesn't mean it cracked Japan considering it took them 3 years and plus it doesn't mean they embrace the XBox 360 it just means it finally reach that mark!.

[jojo319]

Why do the same people that say the 360 will never catch up in Japan, insist that the PS3 WILL catch up in the US?

[Ashta]

Because, unlike in Japan, the PS3 sales in the U.S. have risen to comparable or higher levels than the weekly or monthly sales output of the 360. Even before MGS4 hit the PS3 was rising more and more above the monthly sales of the 360 in the U.S. (not all the time, but quite a few times) and has consistently outsold the 360 worldwide since like October of 2007.

The 360 has outsold the PS3 in weekly sales only twice. The first time was when Ace Combat 6 was released and the second time was when Tales of Vesperia was released and both times the sales of the 360 dropped back below PS3 sales within a single week.

The PS3 has taken the 360's nearly 8 million console head start and has whittled it down to only a 5 million lead in a year and a half. The reason why people claim the PS3 will catch the 360 is because the evidence being shown supports that idea.

[jojo319]

Does the evidence suggest it will overtake the 360 in the US? I honestly don't know. Right now, what do the numbers say, and how long would it take? And please don't factor lineups, etc.... in your equation.

[titntin]

In the US only? NPD clearly shows PS3 is outselling the 360 for this year.

The margins are pretty small though, so given the enourmous lead in instal base for that country, if sales stayed at the level they are, it would take a very very long time for PS3 install base to match or surpass 360 install baser in the US. It's already done it in the other territories, and has already established itself as the number 2 console outside of the US.

Peoples estimates usually look at trends though. If you plot a graph of PS3 sales in the US you'll see they are going up - not so with the 360.

Of course their all sorts of factors can influence threse trends including huge titles like GOW2 or LBP and price cuts, so theres no exact science. But most objective analysts would conceede the PS3 will eventually match the 360 install base in the US. If I had to bet money, I'd say end of 2009 for it to match 360 base in the US, but buy that time it will have a very large advantage in terms of world wide user base.

[kinggeoff]

people on this site (why n4g in particular, i dont know) seem to forget just how far ahead the 360 is *currently* in north america. Ps3 IS definitely catching up. It's a good time to have a ps3, that's why I bought one. A ton of killer games for it now, and blu ray sweetens the deal.

But at this rate, even an increasing rate, it will take a whiiiiiiile for ps3 to catch up to 360, even with consistently beating it out in weekly sales. Will it happen? I think so. But it's going to be a fun ride no matter what right? Good times ahead for us gamers!

Outside of US...the battle is a different story :p

[Says you]

You can look at IGN game profiles and look but of course you cant count Blue Dragon series as individuals you would have to count them as a whole and the same thing with Mass Effect series and the same thing with other RPG series on the XBox 360 and you will find out that you don't have that much RPG's

@ the bottom I know I minus well talk to a real wall instead!.

[juuken]

You're talking to a wall.

Trust me.

Drealmcc0y: ...Mass Effect? That's it? You can't name any other rpg's that were rated high?

[Drealmcc0y]

360 has the most RPG's and the highest rated RPG Mass Effect, RIGHT NOW. How can you possibly deny that? Silly fanboys

[Too_Hyped]

@Drealm : Who cares about Mass effect ?? You can play it ON PC FOR FREE AND IT'S THE BEST VERSION by far. You're the number 1 fanboy. I hope MS gives you some money at least.

[SL1M DADDY]

An oxymoron...

Oil and Water...

Nerds and hot chicks...

[TheDude2dot0]

What if a nerd has a girlfriend that catches on fire?

[SL1M DADDY]

There's always exceptions to the rule... But in the case of MS... That girl has been on fire far too long to show any improvement. lol

[THE TERMINATOR]

All 360 RPGs are crap so whats the point?

[Aquanox]

Crap? for Whom? For you? For western gamers?

This is Japan we're talking about here and its JRPGs have received splendid reviews in that country.

[Marty8370]

Nothing will change this situation, 360 is junk. Selling Junk to the Japs will never work in a million years.

[Darkiewonder]

They barely made a dent in japan. Microsoft had to make up a shortage excuse for september because Infinite Undiscovery comes out that month in japan. then they'll do another shortage when The Last Remnant comes out. [and for a shortage they still managed to sell 3.8k system this week]

Also, Tales of Vesperia on M-create list has dropped out of Top 10 spot. It's sitting right now at #21 [#11 last week. First week was #4] I highly doubt the game is in shortage too ;)

[Aquanox]

No, it hasn't cracked Japan but it's definitely doing better than its predecessor. While Japanese gamers are still giving it a cold reception, it has certainly raised many eyebrows in the land of the rising sun mainly for having the most Japanese-gamer appealing library out there.

This is a long term project and when I say "long term" it means 10-20 years, not just one generation of consoles. If there's a company that can endure such a long race that's Microsoft and if they keep up with the good work in terms of software, Japan will unavoidably have to give Microsoft a chance. I would say that currently, Microsoft is the best choice for gamers because it's the company whose strategy is more focused on quality software and online service rather than hardware and casual approaches. Ultimately, Nintendo will own this generation, and Sony will keep selling better than MS in Japan, but at the end of the day, when we evaluate which has given gamers the best experience, I believe the story will be totally different.

Kudos to MS for not giving up such a difficult yet important market.

[TheMART]

Awwwww look all the Sony fandroids fall over each other to hate the (J)RPG's coming to the 360 and not the PS3.

It's too funny.

It's not only Mass Effect, but also RPG's that are rated about 8 out of 10, which are just good solid RPG's

One thing is for sure the PS3 has just virtually NONE at the moment.
Help me out PS3 fanboys. Name me the PS3 RPG's out at this moment (please no stories like wait for FFXIII in Japan because it won't hit before the end of 2009 or 2010 even) and their Gameranking average scores.

The 360 beats the living hell out of the PS3 in the RPG section. Not only that, besides that GT5P demo on the PS3 there is no great exclusive racer. The PS3 has become what the XBOX 1 was last gen. A shooter console.

List on 360

Mass Effect 9.1 out of 10
Tales of Vesperia 8.1
Eternal Sonata 7.9
Blue Dragon 7.9
Lost Odyssey 7.8

Upcoming RPG's and FFXIII stolen from PS3 (and don't start about Japan, because regions I don't care about as the best game sales are on the 360, in Japan or not, world wide devs are interested in the sales the 360 gets).

So now name me the PS3 RPG's please.

[Obama]

Awww look at all the bots. All of a sudden they pretend to give a rat ass about Japan.

[silverchode]

MART what if people dont like rpgs? what else does the 360 have, gears and mass effect are also avaible on the pc, no reason to get a 360 other than halo3 but that will eventually come to pc. So what if it has more people online most of them are racist 12 year olds. I dont see any reason to get a 360 except it makes a good heater in the winter. :)

[juuken]

Lol @ you. I see three games that score below 80 there. And you like to call PS3 games flops just because some of them score below 80?

Who are you kidding Mart?

You reaaaaally want to know which console is the king of rpg's?

The Playstation 2.

Suck on that.

[CouchKing0]

The Xbox 360 can't crack Japan.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH CRY MORE BOTS!

[jerethdagryphon]

ok ps3 jrpgs or similar styled ones

folklore
eternal sonata (confirmed)
enchanted arms
besides most of the ones on the 360 have recieve b-b+ grades
or are multi platform

anyhow now that x 360s have sold tey will be traded in and rebought time after time and microsoft wont likly semm that many a small spike with each release no more then that
crack japan

ha
only us product japan likes is our cars and the f22

[TheMART]

Folklore the only exclusive one 7.6 out of 10

Eternal Sonata isn't here yet. Enchanted Arms on PS3 67%, on 360 at least it was 72%.

Well you've proven my point. The 360 wins on (J)RPG genre with ease.

[Draperc]

The 360 has in no way cracked Japan. PS3 sales will, as always, dominate 360 sales once Final Fantasy XIII is released since only the PS3 version will be out there. Final Fantasy games sell more in Japan than anywhere else, the only place where FF13 360 sales might exceed FF13 PS3 sales is America. More likely than not the PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIII will sell more than the 360 version everywhere else.

[Naked-Snake]

Hahaha Hahaha hahaa wow thanks for the article you made me laugh

[PooEgg]

I am a fan of JRPGs and I own PS3 and the 360. Although I like my PS3 a lot, the only game that has really gotten much play from me is MGS4. I've tried Folklore, and was not really impressed, and though I am sure I will eventually get around to picking up Disgaea 3 it wasn’t something I felt inclined to run out and get on release day. However, I did run out on release day for both Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia, and I was not disappointed in either game. I have already pre-ordered Infinite Undiscovery and will certainly do the same for both The Last Remnant and Star Ocean. On the other hand, I am looking forward to Final Fantasy on the PS3, which is the version I expect to buy, because I feel the graphics might be better and I want to grow my sparse PS3 library. But I honestly feel that Sony (and also Nintendo, because I also have a Wii) has really dropped the ball when it comes to PS3 RPGs. I am happy that 360 has picked up that ball, they are running with it, and I would be very surprised if they did not continue to score. That isn’t to say 360 is better, I think both PS3 and 360 (and also the Wii) have their own wonderful strengths and also their own painful weaknesses. I never understand it when people who only own a PS3 or only own a 360 (or Wii) feel they have the right to make judgments on the other system, I get that is sucks if you can only afford one system, and the one you chose isn’t getting enough attention from developers, but when that happens it is your own system that is at fault, not their rival. If you own the 360 or PS3 and you hate it, I would say you have a right to complain, but if your just being a fanboy I say grow up, get a job and earn some money so you can afford to buy both systems, you’ll probably be much happier that way, and both systems would prosper so it’s a win win.

[PSWe60]

the 360 fanboys didn't care about Japan

[cmrbe]

Is craking Japan selling out 30k consoles inventory when you release on of your biggest JRPG in a JRPG loving market?.

[felidae]

@TheMART

play Folklore .. it's really great and innovative.

aah, i forgot .. you're a blind 360 fanboii

[DevastationEve]

why are there ps3 gamers here? it's clearly not meant for them, and ESPECIALLY if they don't want to hear good talk about the 360 they shouldn't be in here trolling.

and what's up with them getting all those agrees? either 360 gamers agree with them, or they have an army of trolls who do the same thing and come in here not only to read what they don't want to read, but they also come in here to disagree with people that they wouldn't have to disagree in the first place if they hadn't come over.

[zapass]

to watch you guys hope so hard and fail just as hard every single time.

m$ has cracked nothing, zip, nada,
but you guys crack me up!

lol

[Exia]

I don't think so. Usually when an RPG comes out it tends to sell well and then it dies down after a week.

[Adamalicious]

If you ask BruceOnGames they already have. But, of course, he's an idiot so . . .

[kevnb]

so far they released a few half baked JRPGs and a Tales game...

[Run_bare]

Looking historically, Japanesse are very proud people. I study and grown up in Japan since i was very young even though i am only half Japanesse.

They will abandon those titles. YES, it will be a small momentum, but it won't affect the whole overral Japanesse market. That's my opinion, but who knows, persistance and patients is a virtue.

Personally, relationship between Console Makers And GameDevelopers is a symbiosis. Console Make the Games and Vice Versa and the outcome create the economics.

[pwnamon]

With games like Ninety nine nights the 360 has been trying to crack Japan for a long time. I think the Japanese were wary of these new guys and stuck to the more familiar Nintendo and Sony. Now that the 360 may have finally broke Japan with its skew of RPG's it looks set to cintue the trend and maybe Microsoft can have the X720 Japan compatible from the get-go.