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Double Take: The NX Should Have Never Been Announced Last Year

— Nintendo Enthusiast:

Nintendo left quite the impact on most gamers last week when they announced that their upcoming system would be releasing next spring. Many expected the NX to come out this holiday, including industry analysts. With there officially being a little under a year before the system comes out, Nintendo is still holding the details close to its chest.

While I can understand why they want to continue exercising the element of surprise, one thing is for sure—the NX should have remained a secret.

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gangsta_red2919d ago

It certainly made me hold off on buying the WiiU

darthv722919d ago

Ehh ... it is what it is. I'm enjoying the wiiu while waiting for the NX and confirmation of the PS4 Neo & XB4K

RosweeSon2919d ago

Yeah I'm finishing my Wii U backlog now gonna be a great few months.

gangsta_red2919d ago

I really had no room and more importantly no time to have a third console that really didn't have too many games I was interested in.

The Wii U is a great console, no doubt, but not enough for me to get out the gate like I did with the past Nintendo consoles.

badz1492919d ago

It already looked like Big N gave up on Wii U snce last year and the NX announcement was just the last nail in the coffin for the poor thing. But despite that, it still baffles me on their timing for everything! Why announced it last year just to release it next year? Right now, we are seeing a full year annihilation of the Wii U where the console die a really long and painful death thanks to Nintendo themselves! Not just the nail, they even shot it with the final bullet in its head by delaying Zelda in favor of NX!

Good job Nintendo, you really show the world how to properly treat an underperforming child!

_-EDMIX-_2919d ago

100% agreed. I stated this last year, they should have NEVER even CONFIRMED NX.

The fact that they stated they would talk more about NX next year (ie this year) pretty much just handed Wii U a death sentence. I just don't get what this company is thinking some times. There is a reason why when Sony or MS is going to announce a console, they are telling you the year it releases. They want to maintain sales for their past platforms for as long as they can prior to release of a new platform.

Even price cuts, they'll even tell you when a price cut happens, weeks if not DAYS before it happens as to maintain sales, but.....that is common sense.

Something Nintendo seems to be allergic to.

Concertoine2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

The reason they announced the NX was because they were also making the mobile announcement. They wanted to reassure fans that they were still working on dedicated gaming hardware. If they didn't announce it, instead of the slew of NX articles, what would we get?

"Nintendo remains silent on future gaming hardware"
"Nintendo announces mobile plans - with no future gaming plans"
"Did the Wii U just kill Nintendo hardware?"

It's a lose-lose situation. Truthfully, i don't think they did that much harm to the Wii U by announcing NX, because by March 2015 when NX was announced that console was already pretty much done after Smash and MK8 failed to significantly stir sales. I think Nintendo's refusal to cut the price of the console to this day is demonstrative of their longstanding lack of faith in the platform.

Yui_Suzumiya2919d ago

NX only damaged the Wii U image and sales more than it already was in my opinion

_-EDMIX-_2919d ago

@con- they could have said nothing as most companies don't comment on rumors and speculation.

If people want to speculate about rumors let them..... but I have a company bend just something so weak it's questionable about their own integrity. It reeks of desperation. To have so little confidence in your installed base to rush to announce such a thing to reassure a slipping away audience is quite scary.

wonderfulmonkeyman2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

@ Concern

To be fair, Mario Kart 8 has sold to over half of the Wii U's fanbase.

That's an attach rate that no other current-gen console can even come CLOSE to boasting about for any single exclusive software title, and MK8 has a pretty serious flaw in the form of its battle mode holding it back.
Imagine how it would have done had the battle mode been done right.
It might not have moved a significant amount of new Wii U units, but there's no denying its success as a profits machine for the system itself.
And it's still selling, albeit slowly now.
Smash isn't much different.
In fact I'd argue that the total software attach rate for the Wii U was really damned decent, considering the lack of system unit sales, and the failure of Nintendo, and third parties, to move the system during year 1 when they had the best opportunity to do so.

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LOL_WUT2919d ago

All this time I thought you had a WiiU...

Well, hopefully the NX is that console that brings all of us together. Nintendo should really think about what their consumers want, instead of just thinking about some fad and how much money it would make them. Only time will tell ;)

wonderfulmonkeyman2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

To be honest, if "bringing everyone together" means sharing Miiverse space and chat rooms with some of the Nintendo-hating pin-pricks on this site, I'm half tempted to hope it becomes unpopular again.
Especially if that also means Nintendo becomes just another sell-out to the chavs that crave graphical power over art design and worship sales above all else.

_-EDMIX-_2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

@wonder- why is it you feel that any person that would be against the company would also own the company's products?

So how would somebody be hating on them yet owning something that would even use the miiverse? Buddy, everyone that is disagreeing with you who favors the company can't just all be hating on the company. Grow up. I own a 3DS and you still try to make it seem as if I hate the company despite supporting many of its platforms and games. Wii U is actually the only platform I've ever skipped by them.

To even hope that the company does worse to suit your personal feelings just shows the mindset you even have.

Mind you, who is worshipping sales above all else? Just because the sales are not in your favor does not mean that people pointing them out only care about such a thing and Hate having fun with games. Why not both?

You need to seriously learn how to detach your personal wants and emotions and start objectively talking about something without all this emotion.

All this assumption, name calling etc isn't really helping any of your points.

I'm not even the first person that has pointed this out about your childish post.

Somebody points out an objective fact suddenly they're worshiping just sales Above All Else...

Somebody doesn't purchase the platform and suddenly they are haters of the company...

Are you able to actually honestly remove yourself emotionally from this company?

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Fin_The_Human2919d ago

Well technically it was leaked and Nintendo's hand was forced to reveal it.

Same like Sonys Neo...only difference is that Sony is staying mum and is hopinh they can stay like this until E3.

Still going to hurt Sony until E3 cause people will hold off on buying a Vanilla PS4 until then.

Yui_Suzumiya2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

Not with Uncharted 4 coming out. Let's faceit, nothing will stop people from getting one for Uncharted 4.. especially people who don't keep up with gaming news like us.

Fin_The_Human2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

That's true...Uncharted 4 is a beast and will move consoles but you will have a few that will still hold off until E3, in the end though won't make a dent on the PS4 movement.

_-EDMIX-_2919d ago

Not really considering most companies do not speak on rumors and speculation.

Microsoft never commented on rumors about the Xbox one, Sony never did despite how long those rumors were prior to reveal.

Hurting them how? Even if somebody is not purchasing the platform in hopes of wanting to wait until the reveal they're still waiting to purchase, which means they still end up purchasing one of the devices anyway which is kind of irrelevant.

I don't see how someone holding off to purchase another version of a platform hurts the company considering they have that persons sale regardless.

RosweeSon2919d ago

This is reply to your other comment below but fair play each to their own I personally am the same with Xbox one I've bought halo collection and rare replay on the cheap but there's not enough else to warrant me getting that third home console maybe if I clear my Wii U in time but NX is pretty much certain for me unless they announce something truly horrendous.. They've never done this yet so I have faith. Might be able to squeeze an Xbox one in at some point really wanna play conker for first time ever and nail Blast corps again but I'll just grab one on the cheap at some point. E3 will be interesting all round.

Yui_Suzumiya2919d ago

Yeah I'm waiting to get an X1 on the cheap for Quantum Break, Halo, Gears, Alan Wake 2 and a few other exclusives plus some last gen BC titles..

_-EDMIX-_2918d ago

Well agreed, if you like Wii U, I see no reason to not buy NX day 1 considering are one of the hardcore. I got friends that no doubt will buy NX day 1.

I'm only on the fence on it based on what it might be. If its both handheld and console and all their teams are under one roof, its an easy day 1.

pcz2918d ago

i think nintendo only announced the NX to keep the shareholders happy.

nintendo screwed themselves and the fans. they have perhaps even ruined the NX before it even reaches the shelves.

i can not imagine how the nx will be a success... its inconceivable

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RosweeSon2919d ago

It's a bit like when they announced smash bros Wii U/3DS years in advance even the Dev had barely started making it.

ruefrak2919d ago

Except announcing a game really early only gets you excited, whereas prematurely announcing a new console keeps many people from buying the current console.

RosweeSon2919d ago

Yeah fair enough you got me but still sometimes it's good to be told when they want to tell us. I hate leaks and the recent doom bringers. Anyway all the best.

wonderfulmonkeyman2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

The only reason they did it was because their move into mobile was causing a lot of people to think that Nintendo was dropping consoles.
They wouldn't have teased it as early as they did, were it not for that.

Still, I agree; announcing it early may not have been the wisest of moves on Nintendo's part.

LOL_WUT2919d ago

Delaying the NX to March of next year, totally skipping E3 and the holidays, is even worse. I think they did the right thing by announcing the NX early. Not only did they confirm what we ALL already knew about the WiiU, but this gave people hope that just maybe Nintendo can truly change things around. ;)

Ruggadagod2919d ago

Let's see if the NX will be abandoned like a used up womb LMAO.

wonderfulmonkeyman2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

A crude example from a crude person.
Wow, what are the odds? /s

Ruggadagod2918d ago

I only speak truth bruh. See you at the 3rd year of the NX lifecycle.

wonderfulmonkeyman2918d ago

No, you speak negative speculation.
Because you hate Nintendo.

Stay off the NX. For everyone's sake.

Ruggadagod2918d ago

But I don't hate Nintendo.

wonderfulmonkeyman2918d ago

Yeah, sure you don't. Your post history in these comment sections really makes you seem like someone that loves the systems and games they bring out, and is an honest-to-God loving member of its community./s

LOL_WUT2918d ago

Why because he doesn't defend Nintendo every chance he gets? Liking the system, games, and being an honest-to-god loving member of it's community, does not necessarily mean he has to go around worshiping the company like it were some cult. ;)

Ruggadagod2918d ago (Edited 2918d ago )

I really enjoy Nintendo games/systems when I feel like they're worth liking enough. I will point out flaws if need be. I don't like sugercoating reality. That is for little boys who daydream all day long. If sony was in the same position, I would bash them too.

The NES,SNES,N64,and gamecube were all excellent home consoles with excellent games but some flaws of course. The Wii and Wii U were the ones with the most serious of flaws and I feel like Nintendo is being lazy at not improving those flaws.

And let's not forget their excellent handheld gaming devices such as the original gameboy in which I grew up on way before any other home console, the GBC,GBA,NDS,and the 3DS. All pretty good too me.

Your defense mechanisms in your brain makes you think that I hate nintendo but in reality I just have nothing positive to really say about them since they keep doing things wrong.

Like how as a Wii/Wii U owner, one had to beg Nintendo to localize some JRPGs to overseas. Yeah they listened but it took how long? Or when the Wii U HAD LONG LONG droughts of games to play(ANY GAMES!), where was Nintendo to step in and realize that they had to make sure they their consumers had games to play? It's not our responsibility to entice 3rd parties it is Nintendo. Or when people keep asking to make their consoles region free do they listen? Or to make their online better do they listen? Or when they forced you to buy the Wii U with the pad instead of selling it separately? or how Nintendo always keeps censoring games and their loyal fans ask them not to since they want the original product intact when localized overseas?

Even the N64, with all it's flaws at the time vs. PS1's dominance, had way WAY WAY better 3rd party support than the Wii U. That is kinda sad.

The last 10/10 game Nintendo created was Super Mario Galaxy 2 imo.

_-EDMIX-_2918d ago

sooooooo I see I'm not the only one seeing something is wrong with Wonderfulmonkeyman's unhealthy obsession with this company huh?

If you disagree with him you are a um "hater" of Nintendo. It seems no one can have criticisms about Nintendo, they just hate them.

@LOL- Correct. You can still like a company, but be able to understand what they've done wrong, yet to Wonderful, it seems to like a company to the degree that he has, you need to have this strange cult like loyalty to it where all logic and fact is thrown out the window. I've once commented on a story about Nintendo's current financial situation and he made it sound as if, we needed to have this "positive" spin on the story.

He's blamed consumers for not wanting "Change" with the Wii U.

He's blamed 3rd parties for not making games for the Wii U.

To him, its not what Nintendo needs to do better, its everyone else, its legit the entire world to this dude. Anyone OTHER THEN NINTENDO.

Stealth20k2919d ago

It was announced for investors. It really does not matter one way or the other. They are jusy building the hupe.

OrangePowerz2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

Not the best way to build hype talking about something 2 years before release but without giving any information. Especially when you have a console that is struggling a lot, that's just going to cause even more of a decline in current sales. There where a lot of assumptions it would come out this year because of them already announcing it. They must have planned originally to launch this year otherwise there wouldn't have been a reason to talk about it in tbe financial call. What we will probably never know is if they delayed ot because of issues or to avoid the upgraded consoles and don't feel confident to go up against then directly

But it's even worse to skip E3 and have the thing launch after christmas. Not to mention of screwing over Zelda ganes by delaying it just so they cn launch on both platforms at the same time.

Whatever hype they might have built at the start is gone, not havibg any information at all for over a year besides of "we are making something" means I lost any interested I had at the beginning.

Stealth20k2919d ago

It doesnt really matter one way or the other.

E3 is irrelevant, they will have an event after where they do not have to share the spotlight with anymore.

Launching at Christmas is irrelevant too. More systems than I can count did not launch during the holidays to be very successful.

"Not to mention of screwing over Zelda ganes by delaying it just so they cn launch on both platforms at the same time. " You have no clue why it was delayed.

Stop making shit up

OrangePowerz2919d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

I don't think their privat event will gain as much reports in non gaming media (the mainstream market) than what they would get during E3. What else is going to be announced? Hardware upgrades? Is Nintendo really worried about some slightly upgraded consoles? If you want to win you have to go up directly against your competition and not hide somewhere and wait until they go away. If you can't go up against your competition directly you have a problem and as much as Nintendo wants to say they aren't their competition they are. There are big new games being announced, make deals with those devs and have their game first shown on your show. None of the big devs will wait until the Nintendo specific event to show off their game, it's just not their audience to have a valid reason to skip E3.

Nintendo has problems with 3rd Party support since a few generations. They are basically skipping all big games that are this year. You relegate the console to mainly sell it to Nintendo enthusiasts. The normal crowd will just go with whatever let's them play the those games at launch and not 3-5 months later. The Nintendo enthusiasts would buy the console even at christmas when others are coming out. 3DS and WiiU had horrible lineups for the first 6-12 months and they don't have the most confidence from gamers to get that better this time.

Come on, we have seen the same with Twilight Princess that got delayed "to polish it" so it could launch at the same time with their new console instead of launching first on the dead console. It's just a push to sell more consoles. I don't buy for a second that they delay a game 12 months before launch and release at the same time as their new console because the game isn't ready. And yes it makes sense from a business point of view but it still screws over their WiiU users that have barely anything to play now until next year March.

If your user don't already have a PS4 and/or X1 you are pushing them towards getting one this year so they can play games without having to wait until Spring next year and if the NX isn't cheap enough they might skip on getting it at launch because they shelled out 400+ bucks recently.

Stealth20k2918d ago (Edited 2918d ago )

"I don't think their privat event will gain as much reports in non gaming media (the mainstream market) than what they would get during E3. "

They easily would. For a new system?

"Is Nintendo really worried about some slightly upgraded consoles?" I never said they were worried, this is a business move.

"Nintendo has problems with 3rd Party support since a few generations. They are basically skipping all big games that are this year."

This is there best publishing lineup in years.

"3DS and WiiU had horrible lineups for the first 6-12 months and they don't have the most confidence from gamers to get that better this time." Yes they do. NX is rumored to have the best year 1 lineup in gaming history.

"Come on, we have seen the same with Twilight Princess that got delayed "to polish it" so it could launch at the same time with their new console instead of launching first on the dead console. It's just a push to sell more consoles."

Twilight princess's delay was made to make the game better. The graphics changed......do you not remember how the twilight realm looked before and after the delay? What you are saying is not backed up by fact.
I don't buy for a second that they delay a game 12 months before launch and release at the same time as their

OrangePowerz2918d ago

They will get some mainstream media attention, but not as much as during E3. Yes it's Nintendo, but outside of big events the mainstream media doesn't care that much about games. It will not get the same amount of screen time.

That it would have a great lineup is only speculation by some people and nothing more. I don't see them getting a huge 3rd party support.

I rember the change in art direction. Doesn't change the fact that it coincidentally was finished at the same time as the Wii version. Just like the new Zelda. My guess is actually it will release a few weeks after the NX version to maximise the console sales.

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Bowser Is Canonically 34 Years Old

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jznrpg327d ago

I saw Bowser when I was a kid and now I’m older than him , sigh.

Brazz326d ago

Wow, i'm as old as Bowser!!

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Nintendo Is A Bad Company, But We Can't Help Loving Them Anyway

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Magog335d ago

I never got the love for Nintendo games personally. The annoying vocalizations and ugly character designs do nothing for me.

Kosic334d ago

Don't forget the constant hand holding with tutorials. Learn this new ability by pressing Y, now prove that you can press Y 8 times before you can move on....

Tapani334d ago (Edited 334d ago )

Another very weird article.

Nintendo is a great company by almost all possible normal measures. The biggest one being: their own staff is happy, and they seem to be very happy, well compensated and retain rate is solid. They are also financially very stable, profitable, and cash rich, so shareholders love them.

Overall it is an extremely creative group of people, and their mission statement is fantastic as well "to put smiles on the faces of everyone we touch. We do so by creating new surprises for people across the world to enjoy together." The social impact is also massive, not to speak culturally. Additionally, they have a really strong core business, high customer retention rate and loyalty. Nintendo's reputation is extremely good, I think in the US alone they are 9th most reputable company, their customer service is better than the average company. Plus, the press gives them a pass, because they are Nintendo. But there's a reason why they do that, it's not "because they are Nintendo", there are more layers to the argument.

Then, then there's the random negative gamers online...and their "reputation" which is inside their heads. And their western ideas of how a Japanese company should behave or what they should do. But they have no right to ask a company to do anything for them, because they can vote with their wallets.

There's a small vocal community online who dislikes Nintendo for what they are, but then again, there's always a small vocal community that dislikes something.

Nintendo also disagrees with the Western world about IP, but most people call Westerners "hidoi!" when they emulate Tears of the Kingdom and do not experience it the way Nintendo wanted them (even if it is not the best visual way), because it is a matter of principle to them (Japanese are very much against anything close to plagiarism, and there are laws that are tight about creative works copying etc.)

The Western Braveheart "freedoom!" shouters need to understand that it is not an American company, nor they need to behave like one. They can have their own fights based on their principles (against emulation). And they very well may lose the battle with that and change, or find a new audience.

In the end, it is so very simple. Don't buy the products if you don't like a company, but there's no need to paint a picture that is unrealistic about Nintendo either.

MadLad334d ago

I hate virtually everything about their business practices, actually. Suing everybody for virtually anything, shooting down fan projects, games they never let devalue, their online infrastructure and how they handle BC.

They're lucky they make great games, because that's the only thing I feel they do right.

gold_drake334d ago

my issue with them, is the complete refusal to have decent tech for us.

and their odd censorship and lawsuits for modders.