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Xbox 360 is retiring as the king of all game consoles

Thirty years ago when someone mentioned video games among the uninitiated, the common response might have been a reference to Nintendo. But today, it's arguable that “Xbox” has become a symbol for video games.

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Overload2939d ago

"But today, it's arguable that “Xbox” has become a symbol for video games."

Lol. What?

Teh_Leviathan2939d ago

The key word there being "arguable."

I suppose you would argue that it's Playstation? Doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong.

Overload2939d ago

What? The Xbox is a game console. Of course it is a symbol for videogames.

Wh15ky2939d ago

I thought the key word was "a".

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naruga2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

king of consoles wiht 80 mil sales (half of them rebuys because RRoD) ?? ....while both PS3 and failed Wii surpassed it ?? , while neither in Japan or Europe Xbox has no place at all??...cmon guys 50 mil consoles bought by US and Uk and some dudebro games dont make a console king ...an opportunist lucky slave maybe ..King is and remains PS2 ..either in quality and quantity ..end of story

johndoe112112939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

"I suppose you would argue that it's Playstation? Doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong."

The playstation 2 is the biggest selling console in history. The ps1 is the second biggest selling console in history, the ps3 is the 5 biggest selling console in history. You would be 100% right to say that playstation is the symbol for video games. That's not an opinion, that is a measurable fact. The only way tthose stats would look different would be if you decided to throw handhelds in the mix and then xbox still would not be anywhere near that race, it would be sony and nintendo. Microsoft would be about 600 miles behind them both.

Kingthrash3602939d ago

Xbox 360 was a good console.
That is all.
It didn't even get support the last 3 years.
Fun fact xbox 360 last AAA exclusive was Alan wake in 2011.
Nothing new came for the system it's last years.
That trend continues with the Xbox one...it's last AAA exclusive was sunset overdrive. Qb is a console exclusive but hey let's count that..between sunset and qb there was a year and a half of nothing. And what's next?? The next new AAA ip for xbox one is recore (no date) and scale bound (next year no date).
You can't be king of games if you don't bring games.

garrettbobbyferguson2939d ago

I would honestly argue that Mario is a symbol for gaming. Not because anything is better or has more sales. Simply because of how iconic Mario is. When people think of video games, they think of Mario. Similarly when they think of Disney, they think Mickey.

Godmars2902939d ago

Try laughable.

PS2 launched, went on to sell 150 million versus the roughly 20 each of the competition. Yes, Xbox came in second that gen and fans of the console celebrated that fact, but was that something worth celebrating?

Now there's the 360 versus the PS3 and Wii, and despite releasing a year and a half, though held a significant lead in the US throughout it's life, looking at worldwide sales it only lost ground. It can even be argued that they ended at #1.

If anything this is another instance of the Xbox camp leaning towards delusional. Being defensive if not nationalistic over a US brand.

Kingthrash3602939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

Ended at 2 or 3...wii was #1 with 110mil...ps3 and Xbox went 83ish mil.
Fact.
But between ps360 with the head start of the 360 and the 80 percent failure rate causing rebuys, (I bought 3 all together myself ) the 360 sales exceeded it's install base by a few million...making it kinda disappointing to be arguably second.

donthate2939d ago

Godmars290:

I think the impact to the industry as a whole has never been more influenced by a single console. Think about what the Xbox 360 popularized, and what you have today. This is a good read on what the Xbox team fought for and culminated in online connectivity, upgraded software and achievements:

http://www.gamestm.co.uk/in...

truegamerkt2939d ago

Most of the world would say Nintendo or PlayStation. You'd have to be very young to say xbox imo.

letsgopal2939d ago

Wii U become a symbol of Video Games.

I suppose you would argue that it's Xbox? Doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong.

mechlord2939d ago

Thats not how one uses the word...ican't just say ouya is arguably the king of all things gameable...

II__BONE__II2939d ago

So it's arguable that the GREATEST car EVER made is the Volkswagen Beetle.
So I'm right by making that statement? Or stupid for ever implying it,...Like in the article for instance?

Paulino302939d ago

That is a logical statement Teh_Leviathan.
But remember you're on N4G..
Anything not supporting SONY is the wrong or opinion...lol

Unspoken2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

Too many bronies trying to down play the importantance of the 360 in today's market space. They believe that without competition Sony would have become what they are today on their own, considering they lost so much ground with the PS3, and PSN was a joke, and the draconian DRM debacle and root kits.

Even the Wii surpassed the PS3 in sales beating it so badly, that the blind fanboyism that we see today is the fallout. Only at the very end did the PS3 desperately claw it's way out of last place. Last gen PS3 was certainly the failure out of the two. But you guys go ahead and try to rewrite history. LoL

rainslacker2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

I would argue that Nintendo NES or SNES or has more right to have the title "king of consoles" than the 360, due to the heritage and recognizable reputation it brought to Nintendo...I mean, people did use to say "play Nintendo" a lot. Some people say "play Xbox", although the only time I've ever actually heard that is in media where it's likely paid for.

Sony has more right to it, because they've achieved a lot more than Microsoft has. PS2 alone is the highest selling console of all time, and nowadays, Sony and Playstation is more synonymous with gaming than Nintendo was with the NES.

MS had one generation where they happen to do really well. They made a fine console, and they should be applauded for it. But other than upset what was practically a monopoly, they haven't achieved the same status with the 360 that other consoles have achieved.

@Unspoken

No one is downplaying the importance of what the 360 achieved, or brought to the table...at least not on this part of the comments. They're just saying it doesn't deserve the title "king of consoles".

Edit

I just got the title.

It's like when Leonardo Decaprio yells out "I'm king of the world" in Titanic.

He knows he's not the actual king, but the thrill of achieving something makes him feel like a king.

That's what this is all about. Just some people feeling good that MS actually achieved something worthy of ascension to the monarchy, even if it's only by their own personal standards. It's all about the feels, not reality.

All I have to say though is, "King? I didn't vote him him".

CrazedFiend2939d ago

Somebody needs to pass that bong!

bouzebbal2939d ago

Well deserved retirement, i was specially a fan of 360 but delivered a fierce competition to the PS3.
My favorite 360 games are Lost Odyssey, PGR and DOA4.

Utalkin2me2938d ago

The title forgot 2 words on the end of that, which are "That Breaks".

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Askanison42939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

I think it's relevant when you read the article. It backs up that statement with:

"[...] it wasn’t the Xbox 360’s more powerful hardware spec** that ultimately made it the giant it became in game culture, and thus popular culture, but the online community it popularized via Microsoft’s Xbox Live service."

It's hard to hard to argue that Xbox Live didn't dramatically alter the landscape. It had a pretty profound effect on the way we play no matter what platform you're on.

** relative to the original Xbox

Kingthrash3602939d ago

Yeah, and thanks to xbl we pay a subscription for that, where the wii,ps3, wiiu and dreamcast did it for free.
They made online fps games a thing and that in itself is a triumph but they brought a subscription and ads with it.
We should have either online free with ads or gold sub without ads...that's where ms got greedy on us.

Askanison42939d ago

@Kingthrash360

A service like LIVE wouldn't exist without that money behind it in the beginning.

Pogmathoin2939d ago

PSN is only becoming more reliable since, you guessed it, paid for it.....

donthate2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

Trash360:

I gladly pay the fee, considering the improvement to the service compared to say PC and the free monthly games are nice. Sony had to do it too, otherwise they couldn't compete otherwise and in many ways they still can't.

Angels37852939d ago

The only thing laughable about that was the xbox had "better hardware spec"

That guy is working off old news back wen the cell was not very well understood.

The ps3 consistently had better graphics near the end of it's life there is nothing that looks like uncharted Killzone or the last of us on Xbox 360.

And there are plenty of best graphics awards to prove that.

KwietStorm_BLM2939d ago

Nobody is arguing the relevance or at least the paradigm shift that XBL started, but saying the Xbox 360 is retiring as the king of all consoles is just lmao

gangsta_red2939d ago

@Thrash

It's obvious now that Sony only offered online free to combat 360 and entice players to get their system that came out a year later.

That is why not long after they offered a Plus paid option and now mandatory paid online.

mechlord2939d ago

Thats a fallacy though. The original claim (the one he cannot directly back up) has nothing to do with this second claim that he backs up. You keep that chain up and after 10 unrelated claims you throw a sentence that seems to make it all fit together..

Classic Jedi trick for the weak minded.

cell9892939d ago

yeah between online pay to play and horse armor micro-transactions yeah they sure changed the landscape

Godmars2902939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

"A service like LIVE wouldn't exist without that money behind it in the beginning."

That only begs the argument that maybe it shouldn't have existed. For the life of the 360 MS felt that they had to attach other free and paid services to XBL to try and justify it. Make money back on its investment and start up. MS had someone on Netflix's board of director who worked an exclusivity deal, but Netflix itself only really took off once that deal was done. For the effort Xbox brand saw no benefit.

Unspoken2939d ago

They did it for free and you got what you paid for. All the services you mentioned were completely inferior and riddled with bugs.

rainslacker2939d ago

It became popular in pop culture because MS paid a crap ton of money to have it inserted into pop culture. pop culture isn't created by mass migration to new products because people are enlightened to seek out such things, it becomes pop culture, because the media tells us that's what's popular, and what we're supposed to like. At least that's what pop culture is nowadays. That's the best conclusion I can come to to figure out why so many music artists are popular today, because 9 out of 10 of them have absolutely no talent.

Utalkin2me2938d ago

@Pogmathoin

No, thats what you fanboys like to think. I had no online issues while playing on the PS3, all the while first party exclusives all had dedicated servers. And on top of that it was free.

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MRMagoo1232939d ago

"Xbox 360 retiring as last like the original xbox"

Khaotic2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

He was more talking about the introduction of the party chat feature on the 360 at launch

Sunny_D2939d ago

Party chat feature came later in the 360's lifetime not at launch.

Wallstreet372939d ago

What was "Party Chart" did it show me where all the parties were happening at any given time in the neighborhood? lol I would love a "Party Chart"

Khaotic2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

@wallstreet I'm amazed how you never get tired of being a raging fangirl.

Khaotic2939d ago

@sunnyd my bad the 360 had that feature when I bought one but that was late 2006 or early 07

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343_Guilty_Spark2939d ago

Half weren't rebuys they were warranty replacements which are not sales.

thejigisup2939d ago

Millions have repurchased the console, glad that "king" is gone and past us

ziggurcat2939d ago

No. It took a lawsuit for them to admit that there was a problem, and it only became replaceable via the warranty after that (which was a few years into the console's lifespan). Countless consoles had to be repurchased prior to that happening.

Tsar4ever012939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

The "King of all consoles "!? He said? Ps2 's 155 million + in life time sales says your full of it, buddy! And on top of that the Ps3 even caught up and surpassed them in life sales before all current gen consoles were out. That's right, Sony ended last gen in 2nd place in sales world wide. The only thing the 360 is really king of is having the highest Hardware Failure Rate in all history of console gaming. But to be fair I give MS their due for this much though, making on-line gaming a thing and being the 1st out from the transition from standard definition gaming to gaming in HD. And it's XB live set the standard from which we all online game nowadays. But calling it the console king is way to much credit. This writer must be living in another universe. A universe of No Man's Sky. Lol!! Oh by the way xbots just might never get to play that.

DixieNormS2939d ago

Shut up fan boy. It's like me saying you'll never get to play sunset over drive. I'm getting sick of this site.

Wallstreet372939d ago

Dixie....

Even millions of xbox fans wont get to play "Sunset Over Drive" nor care too given its abysmal sales lol

meche3342939d ago

The 360 bought parties and downloadable content and lots of other things that shaped the gaming industry

Gol3m2939d ago

Sunset overdrive is trash

Monster_Tard2939d ago

@Wallstreet37

Well it was gave away with GWG this month, so I don't know about that
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ashcroft2939d ago

That's not entirely wrong. How many parents refer to a game console as an Xbox. Similar to how everything was called Nintendo back in the day.

MRMagoo1232939d ago

none that I hear , most parents know the difference now days.

rainslacker2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

When I watch some modern TV, it would appear all of them. But you pay enough money, and you can get actors to say anything. Outside of that, I've never heard a game console, contextually speaking, as "going to play Xbox". I'm sure it exists, but it's hardly on the same level that it was for Nintendo, or even PlayStation. "Go play Nintendo" has waned in more recent times, but I still often hear, "Go play PlayStation". However, the more common vernacular I tend to hear is "Go play some games", as it actually always was even for Nintendo and Sony.

Keep in mind, most of the parents today that I imagine fall into the age range you're speaking of, grew up in the PS1 and PS2 era. The clueless one's may refer to it as Xbox if their kids are lame and actually speak like that on a regular basis.

trooper_2939d ago

Sorry but the PS2 was the king of all consoles.

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Fatal-Aim2939d ago

Lmao!

The 360 came in 3rd place (Wii, PS3, 360), as it managed to lose it's 2nd place position to the PS3. Not to mention that it was only good for FPS and Racers. That doesn't sound like king to me; that sounds like a VERY selective market. Why do you think it did so horribly outside of the UK and NA?

BIGBOSS082939d ago

yea that line literally had me laughing!

meche3342939d ago

@KingThrash360 Gears of War Judgement, Forza Horizon, Forza Horizon 2, Halo 4, The Witcher 2,

XanderZane2939d ago

No different then Atari, Nintendo (NES, SNES, Wii), SEGA (Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast), Sony (Playstation), etc.... Pretty much any gamer already knows this.

Big_Game_Hunters2939d ago

Seriously though, PC has been the symbol for games for a while now.

ScamperCamper2939d ago

Idiotic premise. Yeah, RROD and broken burnt in rings on games and movies. Multiple dead Xbox 360 consoles. How many did you have to return? Most people more than one. Sure, yeah, amazing quality and reliability. Such a great console. First ever to scratch out discs to make then unplayable! Now that's a great slogan. It's the king. It's the king of breaking and king of couriers like Purolator because of all the business Microsoft gave them with all the returned consoles. What. A. Joke. Grab some self respect and call the Xbox 360 was it really is.

Next_gen_20152939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

@Kingthrash360

Alan wake was the last AAA exclusive on the 360? Ever heard of Halo 4 or Gears of war judgement?

Please don't post again...

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Foehammer2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

Well done 360

10 1/2 years was a great run.

Love the support it got right to the end as well as it got top releases along with the X1, Forza Horizon 2, TitanFall, TombRaider, etc

I think the 360's run was more inline with what ppl want when they spend top dollar on a console...to know they are the cream of that manufactures crop for, in this case, 8 years (before the X1 came out).

The sales of over 85m consoles in just 40 countries is also outstanding.

The Quarterly Financial Statements from top publishers like Activision, EA and Ubisoft consistently showed the 360 accounted for the lions share of their game sales so it's clear the functioning install base of the 360 was the biggest for 3rd party publishers.

Hail to the King Baby

Teh_Leviathan2939d ago

Right?
And with continued software and technical support, as well as games still being released for it and servers remaining online, it could last another few years.

Great to hear.

IamTylerDurden12939d ago

Don't get too fuzzy calling the 360 the cream of the manufacturing crop. It had no blu ray and the highest fail rate of any console.

donthate2939d ago

Yeah, but it also had the best warranty, and customer service of any console. It also had an incredibly designed architecture, that without raw power could beat the PS3 in game performance and still cost less. The Xbox 360 not only introduced a lot of innovation we take for granted today, but it also did it with value.

When the original Xbox launched it was the industry's laughing stock, and by the Xbox 360 it was a juggernaut. Today, as a brand it is side by side with Playstation.

Sunny_D2939d ago

No wifi at the beginning, backed the wrong hd format with a useless paperweight add-on screwing customers over....

Wallstreet372939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

Donthate....

Stop lying..... Best warranty? Here goes fanboys selective memory and revisionist history. No it had a warranty that didnt include RROD, customer service and a company that didn't want to acknowledge the RROD fiasco or give ppl new xboxs after they died. Stop the bs the only reason Xbox 360 warranty got better was after "gamers" litigated against Microsoft because Microsoft turned a blind eye to RROD and said it wasnt an issue. They did nothing out of good faith but because a judge told them they were liable and had to remedy the situation. Best customer service lol yeah because you say so right? Smfh.

badz1492939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

@donthate

Yup...give it to fanboys to pour praise for a company releasing a broken product just because the company had to offer extended warranty just so their product is not forced to be pulled from the market! Bravo fanboys!

As a brand they are side by side? LOL "side by side" is the last appropriate word for something lagging 20mil units behind in just over 2 years!

Metfanant2939d ago

@donthate

Let's be realistic..it only had that "Best warranty" because MS was absolutely FORCED to provide that because of how God awful the hardware was in the initial design

Unspoken2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

How did the HD format screw customers? Lol It was an add-on, optional, you didn't have to buy. It was not mandatory like PS3 Blu Ray addition inflating the price and putting focus on media over games, thus truly screwing over the customer.

Totally agree with the best warranty and extending for everyone so it was a non issue. I don't know anyone who went and bought another one during that time when they had the warranty active.

Sunny_D2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

@unspoken

Then with your logic, how could the PS3 screw someone over when it's ALWAYS optional to buy a console. The blu ray has been there from day one and the customer knew what they were getting. Hell, many people bought the PS3 because it was the cheapest blu ray player at the time. Let's not forget the benefits of having blu ray with its 50gb disk allowing developers to fit their games on one disk unlike the 360's outdated dvd. NOW the Xbox one has a blu ray drive for a reason.

Oh, you're talking about the extended warranty MS had no choice but to give in response to all the lawsuits their asses were going to face for releasing such horrendous hardware?

rainslacker2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

@Unspoken

MS including DVD instead of an HD format actually screwed over everyone, regardless of if they brought the system or cared about an HD format.

The DVD format was already strained for capacity before the generation even started, and many games on all the systems were held back to accommodate for the lack of space. Just things like HD video streams from the disc were not possible on the 360 due to the transfer rate. Audio codecs went unsupported on the 360, while they were included on the PS4 versions, or they were left out altogether. All hail MS for not forcing an expensive technology on us right?

No, MS HD add on didn't screw anyone over unless they actually brought it, but they offered something that some people would want and made it optional. Sony's inclusion did increase the costs of the system, but it was a cost that was necessary due to the need for higher storage capacity, so it was beneficial. I mean, your reasoning would suggest that Sony including a DVD drive in the PS2 was also anti-consumer, despite increasing the cost of the console, because DVD wasn't exactly cheap at PS2's launch. But it was necessary, because 4 disc CD games were becoming too commonplace.

DarXyde2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

donthate,

Some fundamental disagreements.

As far as the best warranty, I suppose that is technically correct, but it was really about saving face. Not saying there's anything wrong with it; Sony did it as well during the PSN hack. They went above and beyond to make amends. In either situation though, I do believe you're giving these companies too much credit.

"Incredible" architecture is a stretch. It had the simplest architecture of the HD consoles, but one can argue Wii's architecture was better since it was familiar. That is, the architecture closely resembled GameCube's. Not really anything incredible about Xbox 360's architecture. I thought PS3's was, though a nightmare at first, more interesting. We never really got to see its "full" power since one of the SPEs was inactive to compensate for defect yield and one ran in reverse for the OS. And as far as game performance goes, it was my understanding that, once developers really got around to understanding the CELL architecture, it was better, open world games withstanding.

Lastly, a brand side by side with PlayStation? Hmmmm, not exactly. Under a microscope, sure, but on a macro level, there isn't much in the way of competition. I'm not sure PlayStation or Xbox ever really found the acclaim that Nintendo has in terms of brand recognition. When you send a fax, you "Xerox" it. Searching, we "Google" it. People still use "Gameboy" to identify handhelds. That's power in the brand. Halo has become a very well known name. I think Halo is actually a better known name than Xbox, if you can understand that.

If you need evidence of brand strength, Xbox is synonymous with online gaming, Nintendo with handheld gaming, and PlayStation with...gaming. Microsoft can be considered comparable in a compartmentalized sense, but the overarching gaming brand is PlayStation.

Not to take away from Xbox 360. It was a great console and was my main console last generation...until the first Uncharted came out, that is. After that, it was just crazy momentum. To each, their own of course. The Xbox 360's success, in reality, is due to launching a year early with the superior version of a lot of multiplatform games early on (from the sixth generation as well) and being cheaper. Even then, the failure rate of the Xbox 360 coupled with the eventual onslaught of PS3 exclusives, included Blu-Ray drive in the PS3, free online gaming of the PS3, discount program with PlayStation Plus, and even game sharing of the PS3 helped it become a great console. Was PS3 the favorite? Completely debatable. I know people who liked their Xbox 360s more. In America, I'd say Xbox 360 won last generation in sales and attach rates. PS4's success is a lot like the Xbox 360s where they came out strong as the rival manufacturer hurt themselves considerably and must now spend the generation playing catch-up. But here's the thing: Xbox One is not selling poorly, but it's not holding a candle to PS4 either. They launched within about a week's difference versus a year last time. Despite the very common knowledge that Xbox One supports 16TB external storage, has no DRM, is backwards compatible, has a better online structure, and is now cheaper than the PS4, it's still being largely outperformed.

Why do you think that is? Simple: brand strength. You say they stand comparably, I say that's optimistic on your part. PlayStation is simply a more powerful brand. Historically, console power yields a negligible effect on sales, so I wouldn't say it's because PS4 is more powerful.

DarXyde2939d ago

Sunny_D,

Partly true. Remember the 20GB PS3 at launch that didn't have Wi-Fi? As for backing the wrong format, I think, if Sony hadn't put Blu-Ray in the PS3, we'd be using HD-DVD. Player/discs were cheaper than Blu-Ray. Microsoft's mistake was using HD-DVD as an optional add-on so it didn't have the necessary support.

Utalkin2me2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

Not only was it a POS that was thrown together. It had no blu ray, no wifi, no hdmi, only a 20 gig HDD.

The best warranty comment was funny. It wasn't until the government stepped in and did something about it before MS even offered to extend the warranty, on the biggest failure rate of all time on consumer electronic product.

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JackStraw2939d ago

I'ma let you finish but PS2 is the greatest game console of all time.

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styferion2939d ago

well PS2 is the uncontested King... I'm more of a Nintendo and PC guy but even I can see that.
but it's ok, this lets people know who's hardcore fanboys

do you guys even get anything from MS for being such a loyalist?

jerethdagryphon2939d ago

Yea i dont see it king of what. Shooters maybe . not sales not quality not ips ms have used the same core ips since thecoriginal xbox halo fable forza gears. Ip wise its sony. Sales wise sony build wise nintindo

Fun fact first party new ips for ms this gen ....i actually cant think of any off the top of my head sony has at least 2 dc and dreams

Unspoken2939d ago

Yes, it shows those who believe PS2 was king as well.

But if you go back further in history you'll notice Nintendo takes that mantle.

Go ahead and keep the hypocrisy going.

rainslacker2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

If you're a Nintendo guy, don't fret. Nintendo could arguably have a couple consoles which could be considered king. Nintendo, despite not being as prolific in recent years(Wii aside) still has some major clout and name recognition when it comes to how people view gaming in general.

I'm more a Sony guy, but even I can't deny what Nintendo has achieved, or how well liked some of their consoles were, and how some of those consoles deserve the title more than the 360 does.

Honestly, a Nintendo and Sony fan arguing about which would be king would actually be enjoyable, because there are so many points which are justifiable. It wouldn't be most people laughing at the notion that it's king, but trying to argue over which one is more king worthy.

styferion2939d ago

well Nintendo did help shaping early gaming landscape until it became what it is today so yes, in terms of achievements I do think Ninty has the top spot, although I still think in terms of overall popularity and games the top spot goes to PS2

DarXyde2938d ago

I can honestly say that I really respect your comment for being able to step outside of yourself and recognize what's basically indisputable (though I'd forgive the argument that SNES is king because it's phenomenal, but if we're talking about eras, I'd say PS2's value is indisputable).

You have to understand where I'm coming from: I'd say PC/Nintendo is the best combination possible since you can play multiplatform titles at premium quality AND get the most exclusives. Your choice is awesome. That said, seeing you agree that PS2 is king says a lot. It really does.

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Mystickay862939d ago

Alright, get your head out of Xbots shiny metal ass.

kayoss2939d ago

"Love the support it got right to the end..." What? Microsoft Xbox 360 exclusives game were non existent 5 years ago. The only thing released for it were from 3rd party.
If you compared this to the ps3, Xbox 360 was a embarrassment when it came exclusive support.

Foehammer2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

ROFL

You don't enjoy 3rd party?

So you didn't buy or count Bloodborne? lol

Interesting your choice of the word "embarrassment", MS more than tripling it's install base is a huge sense of pride and accomplishment. Bit loosing 80m of your fanbase PS2 to PS3, that fits your adjective perfectly.

It's also directly related to the subject of this article, the 360's success.

The gamers chose with their wallets, #dealwithit

I'm going to suggest that your adjective also works well when describing a product selling similarly to another product but only requiring 1/3 of the countries.

kayoss2938d ago

I enjoy 3rd party games but guess what? The competition had that too. Not only did the ps3 had 3rd party support til the end, it had first party support as well. Xbox360 had only 3rd party. You love the support but the support didn't come from Microsoft it came from some where else.
So your blaming Sony because they decide to have their system in more countries right? Let me enlighten you a bit here. Why didn't Microsoft make their system available in more countries? Because they know it wouldn't sell. Look at japan, look at Europe and you will find your answer. Your precious Xbox was great in Europe, but the x1 lost entire country of supporters and this is just two years in to its life cycle.
I'm not going to deny that the x1 is not successful, it's doing great. However, when you sit there and claim that Xbox 360 was supported til the end, you're just lying to yourself. Because I can say the same for ps3 and Nintendo, but what make them different from Xbox 360? They had 3rd party and first party support til the end.

Rookie_Monster2939d ago

Welcome back Foehammer. Totally agrees. X360 was the best console ever for me.

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killer_goat2939d ago

Yet ps3 kicked it's ass I'm every way. The only thing that the 360 won was the most unreliable console in history.

Foehammer2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

Really/s

Because Digital Foundry says different from 2005 to present:

http://www.eurogamer.net/?t...

Perhaps you should ask yourself why the PS install base went from 160m PS2 to 80m PS3?

While your at it, ask yourself why Xbox went from 24m to 85m+?

In case you didn't notice, both questions are connected, Sony's loss of 80m was MS gain.

PS3 was king of losing it's fanbase only.

And the beat part, the 360 did it with just 40 countries compared to the 120+ of it's competition. lol

killer_goat2938d ago

@foehammer you still playing that old countries tune lol I'm not going to explain it again to you. You can't grasp the concept. Anyway why have xbox 360 numbers dropped from 80 million to 16 million xbone players?

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killer_goat2938d ago

Seriously trollhammer be quiet you are making yourself look even more stupid

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Utalkin2me2938d ago

@Foehammer

You mean this kind of support it got in the last 3 years?

http://n4g.com/news/1311502...

85m consoles in 40 countries all the while it being the king of the worst electronic failure in history @ 50+%. Hail to the 3rd place king indeed.

killer_goat2938d ago

Troll hammer has been spewing this country crap for ages now. Don't listen to him he hasn't got a clue. I can't wait to hear his answer on why a user base of 80 million xbox 360 players dropped to 16 million xbone players lol

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Drake7142939d ago

thanks for introducing fees to play online with this console

ScorpiusX2939d ago (Edited 2939d ago )

Please stop acting like it was the end of the world, when it was introduced .
The way i see it if not them someone else would have introduced it, bet it would be okay if it had been the other guys right .

@STREET defend what that if they hadn't done it someone else would have , it was going to happen think most people are upset it wasn't sony or Nintendo but MS.

ThePope2939d ago

You're 100% right. For proof all you need to do is read the support PS4.5 is getting from the hardcore on this site. They're basically making the current PS obsolete and people are saying thank you. HAHA

Chug2939d ago

Pope, I'm not sure if you know what obsolete means. It will still be relevant, get over it.

ThePope2939d ago

@Chug

part of the definition is "out of date". The PS4 faithful this gen talk about nothing but performance. If you don't making something out of date to people who seem to only care about performance you're fooling yourself.

yeahright22939d ago

One sarcastic comment is acting like the world's ending?

Wallstreet372939d ago

Ahhhh i see the typical defense force is back at it again defending. Microsoft should send you and pope a monthly check as good as you try to cover up, defend and shine that light oh so bright lol hahahaha

Muzikguy2939d ago

@ThePope

For the record I get slammed with disagrees every single time I post something negative about the PS4K. It's a bad idea and bad for the industry IMO. Also believe that if it indeed does happen, MS will be right behind them with an upgrade of their own. It's business. Just like Sony charging for online because MS was.

Gol3m2939d ago

@muzikguy

You're right it's a bad idea but it's going to happen. And you're also right MS will follow again

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Stereotypical_gamer2939d ago

The white 360's were also the first console to come with a self-destruct button. Ahh Microsoft, innovators of the console industry /s

Tsar4ever012939d ago

Self destruct button, hah! That just made spit out some of my fried rice just now! Lol!

WellyUK2939d ago

That was why Live was 10000 times better than PSN...

Wallstreet372939d ago

No lets make it 1,0000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000 better lol gtfo That mantra has been outdated for the last 8 years or so lol Live hasnt been better than psn for years!!!!! as a matter of fact lately PSN has been better and more reliable.

WellyUK2939d ago

Well nah now you pay for PSN... It has improved a lot since ps4 launch it's now the more stable service recently. Because we pay for it and they can actually get better servers and services. Live was better than PSN through most of the 360's life span. You don't think that then your stupid and blinded by pure idiocy. I had more issues with PSN in 1 year than i did in 7-8 of Live.

Unspoken2939d ago

Nice my experience is totally the opposite. PSN has been a nightmare compared to XB1. Now you have to pay for the inferior service because Sony isn't turning your money into better infrastructure and you are mad that Microsoft is doing it right with the better service. You guys are so jaded from last gen. It's time to get over it.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2937d ago (Edited 2937d ago )

That isn't the case presently, unless you're ignoring the fact that Xbox Live suffers some sort of issue at least once a week... When was the last time you haven't seen someone ask "Is there something wrong with Xbox Live?"

Before 12:01 am Sunday 4/30/2016 it will have at least one "social & gaming" related issue.

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2pacalypsenow2939d ago

The original Xbox in 2003 did that not the Xbox 360

Tobsesan2939d ago

OG Xbox did that, thank sony for following the trend.

ashcroft2939d ago

Fees were introduced with the original xbox, not 360. You're also acting like subscription models weren't a thing before. Ever heard of Eve Online? Or World of Warcraft?

I agree that online fee to play online is stupid, but don't act like online fees were originated from the xbox.

DopeTech2939d ago

WOW xbox 360 made a lot of you fanboys salty! Thanks for introducing fees? More like thanks for making the best online service ever in gaming, and It still is today.

Gol3m2939d ago

Nope.....

I feel that N4G needs to introduce a big rubber stamp that says 'in my fanboy opinion' that has to be applied to such ludicrous comments as above

ITPython2939d ago

Don't forget the now common practice of timed exclusivity deals with multiplat games (DLC and whole games). M$ really renovated with that one, funny thing is now its biting them in the butt since very few third party publishers are willing to take the sales suicide and have exclusive titles or DLC on XB1 first.

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All Hopes I Had For A Prey Sequel Have Been Crushed — Well Done, Microsoft

The magnificent Prey was once again abandoned as Microsoft disregarded Arkane Austin's achievements and crucified it just for Redfall.

RaidenBlack1d ago

well, not entirely ... the main Arkane studio i.e Arkane Lyon's still there ...
Its only that, the sequel will take more time now ... after Blade & Dishonored 3

MrBaskerville4h ago

But who knows, Dishonored 3 could have been Austins next project, so might be cancelled.

-Foxtrot23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Not even this Prey

Still longing for a sequel to the original Prey with Tommy

The studio didn't even want to call this Prey, it was just Bethesda being dicks to them for some reason.

RaidenBlack17h ago

MS closed Roundhouse Studios (ex-Human Head Studios) as well

Yui_Suzumiya7h ago

Yeah, that's who was going to do the original sequel.

isarai14h ago

Came here to say this, my hooes for a Prey sequel died when this "Prey" came out

Profchaos5h ago

Prey 2017 still hurts to play because what could have been looked so incredible

Profchaos5h ago

Same Bethesda basically screwed over the original developer team human head back around 2011 so it was really never going to come despite a honestly amazing trailer. I liked prey 2017 but it always held a stink of disappointment due to what we never got

FinalFantasyFanatic45m ago

I really didn't like this game, tried it because of how loved the original Prey was, played the demo of this one and thought it was garbage, it didn't feel nice/fun to play.

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LostPotato22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Keep dreaming then as Prey and Dishonored 2 did not sell well enough to get sequels.

Hence we got Deathloop and Redfall instead.

RaidenBlack17h ago

lol, Deathloop came from Prey: Mooncrash idea

Unknown_Gamer57946h ago

To everyone who cheered MS’s acquisitions, we told you so…

Inverno5h ago

Those people will just argue that Arkane Austin and Tango would've been shut down either way.

MrBaskerville4h ago

Zenimax allready put them in a tight spot by demanding them to do a multiplayer title. So it's not unlikely, considering how bad the game performed. They didn't stand a chance. MS had the money to save them and to correct Zenimax' mistakes.

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Persona 5 Royal Review - Gamerhub UK

Atlus wins over gamers yet again.

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Rutaprkl23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Persona 5 Royal is my top 10 game of all time. A true masterpiece.

Barlos14h ago

Same here. Not only is it one of my favourite RPGs, it's also one of my favourite ever games. I keep coming back to it time and time again.

CrimsonWing6910h ago

4.8? This game is literally one of the best modern JRPGs. I’d give it the perfect score.

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Top Spin 2K25 Review - TheGamer

TheGamer Writes "The tennis sim is as good as ever, but is lacking basic features that make this worthwhile at this stage."

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smolinsk23h ago

The gameplay is fantastic. Not sure what can be more important then that?

HankHill15h ago

I like how one of the cons is that it's the only tennis game on the market. What does that have to do with the game?