The upcoming PS4 exclusive game by Sony Bend Studio is still shrouded in mystery, but today well known industry insider Shinobi605 dropped a few hints on what the game is allegedly about.
Days Gone developer appears to be moving well outside its comfort zone in order to join Sony's ongoing foray into live-service games.
Admin note: Updated this to rumor. Job listings can be a good indicator, but let's remember nothing is final until officially announced. ~Christopher
This game will determine the fate of Sony Bend. Not looking to good if it's a live service game.
Days gone is an amazing game which I believe was unfairly criticized for things a lot of other games gets a pass for. The game is very good but had a few bugs on launch that was quickly patched the day of release. There are so many games that took months to iron out most of the bugs that are highly praised so I can understand if the dev team decides to go a different route.
It's a tricky thing to try to make a sequel of a game because I've seen sequels improve a lot over the first game with new worlds and mechanics and get lower review scores while other games sequel have the same world with minor changes but get better review scores. Whatever the days gone developers are making I believe will be a good game because I know they are a good game studio.
Helldivers 2 proves you can make fun live service games that don't feel like they're nickle and diming you. I am optimistic
No, Sony is not allowed to have LS. Everyone else yes, but Sony is not allowed. We wont allow it.
Why? It's obvious at this point of what not to do when making a live service game. Plus you can see from Helldivers 2 that fun games can be made that don't feel like Microtransactions are weighing you or the game down.
For every helldivers 2 there are so many that aren’t good. Let’s not assume every sony live service game is gonna be helldivers 2.
To be fair, while Helldivers 2 has been great and quite successful, its only been out for a month and a half.
Its success from a launch standpoint has already been proven, but whether it succeeds as a Live Service game (in particular as one to be used as a model for others) is not really something we know yet.
The whole point of devs and publishers going for live service is the consistent revenue they provide over several years, not just 1-2 months
It's been obvious for years though. That hasn't stopped dozens of live service games crashing and burning on release for making the same mistakes again and again. This industry doesn't learn.
Why is it automatically bad? Maybe its a good game. I reserve my judgement until we see it.
Unless it is a hit like Helldivers ||, the studio will not survive unfortunately.
That is a lie. They can make a single player that players would claim they want, but would not support. They can make a good live service game like Helldivers 2. As long the game is good and the mtx are not bad, the game will do well. Their last game was a single-player game, yet most only got the game when it was heavily discounted.
Quite unfortunate.
Sony really should not be asking their long time studios to be making these games. Haven, Bungie, fine. Not Bend.
"Not looking to good if it's a live service game."
It´s Amazing news!
It could be a spiritual successor to Syphon Filter with multiplayer/co-op mechanics.
Bring it on, Bend!
I'm going to say this as someone who really enjoyed Days Gone
Why would you go and create an open world, multiplayer game with live service elements if you're previous game which was only a single player title came out flawed?
Wouldn't you want to create a new single player game to refine and fix your last mistakes to master what you were going for the first time before jumping into uncharted territories with online, multiplayer and live service which is a completely different beast entirely.
I can't be the only who thinks this right?
Just seems like your setting yourself up for failure in my opinion, you're giving yourself and your team bigger challenges to overcome in an already oversaturated market, a market where live service games made by people who are used to online and multiplayer are even struggling themselves.
It might be good, who knows, but at the moment it just seems they are biting off more than they can chew.
Isarai is completely right. bend already had wanted to do the sequel which is why the one guy stepped down from their studio because he didn't get to. Their marching orders were to do this from Sony.
Phoenix
That doesn't take away from the fact that when this LS fails , that Bend will be dismantled whether Ryan gave the "marching orders" or not.
Though you are right like Isarai said sony wanted 12 live service games asap they have no say in the matter just work for there over lords like isomiac in there marvel slave factory.
honestly having to make marvel games isn't so bad, there's a diverse lineup of characters to choose from. what's really bad about it is that they have to consult with sweet baby inc about political crap to add to their games or take away from it
@pho
Its not making marvel games its about the leak were even into mid ps6 we wil still be getting spiderman/wolverine from a dev studio that once did infamous and of course the ratchet games.
But no everyday they go to work on 2 ips for the next 8+years
Yup as others mentioned, not up to them.
My only hope now is for Bend to hold on & make it to a time & state that will allow them to properly start working on Days Gone 2.
They just see their competitors profits and want to replicate. They ask all these studios to do something they've never done before and the results are exactly as you would expect (lacking). This has been happening for a decade in the industry. Dice and Battlefront/Battlefield are the best example.
I full expect to see this game announced at SGF.
It's definitely not Days Gone 2 it's a new LS IP. Hope it looks and plays good.
Yup I feel the same. I am never buying into LS crap, no matter how good the game is supposed to be.
If they drop it at 39.99 and a progression system that isn't entirely bogged down by MTX like Helldivers 2 they could have something in general moving forward. However I fell like HD2 may just be an exception to the rule.
You knew for a long time that Days Gone 2 wasn´t coming.
Your outrage makes no sense.
Even if it is, my question is who is going to play all these live service games constantly? Doesn't matter if they are all Helldivers 2 quality, there is only so much time and people tend to dedicate themselves to maybe a couple of service games at a time ( if that ).
Well...yes. however, once you're more or less topped off on one you really only go back for the updates. Or in some cases even once a season starts.
Couldn't care less if it was, I wouldn't be buying it either way. LS is an instant deal breaker for me.
"Couldn't care less if it was, I wouldn't be buying it either way. LS is an instant deal breaker for me."
And Sony couldn´t care less about you or your feelings.
That’s the thing. Why does Helldivers 2 get praised but then this has everyone doomin’ and gloomin’? If we start getting GaaS as a majority of releases people don’t have anyone to blame but themselves for opening this door. I hope most of these GaaS games fail so we can get back to traditional games.
I always ask this question: Why do publishers choose to develop a game with a GaaS design vs just making a traditional game? There’s only one answer and it’s all centered around continual monetization with a dev budget spread thin over many years.
"If we start getting GaaS as a majority of releases people don’t have anyone to blame but themselves for opening this door. I hope most of these GaaS games fail so we can get back to traditional games."
In Sony's case if these LS games fail, major lay offs, studio down sizes and even possible studios shut downs (worse case)
I said this already but if these LS games fail it won't be a glamorous as going back to what they do best. There will be casualties and slow production, shifts and changes. If they succeed, they can make traditional SP games while supporting the LS game. That's the best case scenario.
Buy Bends new game if it looks good, plays good and fun. If it doesn't then don't buy it, no need to force yourself for some agenda.
I think Bends game is releasing next year tbh. I think it's closer than we think.
History says probably not. Almost every live service game fails. Realistically if HD2 is successful the other games likely won't be. Traditionally people dont jump from live service to live service. They find one game they really click with and invest their time and/or money into that.
While personal preference can undoubtedly play a part, allowing studios like Santa Monica, Insomniac and Sucker Punch to take any given fan’s top spot, the numbers supporting Naughty Dog do anything but lie. They’re the best, and you have to deal with it.
The top 5 are correct but in the wrong order IMO.
1. Naughty Dog (Top-tier dev in the industry for story, technology, acting, graphics, and gameplay)
2. Santa Monica (They're in their Naughty Dog top-tier era)
3. Insomniac (unrivaled AAA / blockbuster quantity and quality)
4. Guerilla (4 & 5 can swap places, both are equals IMO, great studios with new hit IPs)
5. Sucker Punch (4 & 5 can swap places, both are equals IMO, great studios with new hit IPs)
6. BluePoint (best remakes and remasters in the industry, just need to make their own "new game")
7. Polyphony (Hasn't evolved as much as the other 5, but still a good overall dev)
8. Sony Bend (they need a few more AAA games under their belt to rival GG / SP)
9. Hosmarque (indie dev turned AA, on the path to becoming AAA)
10. Media Molecule / San Diego Studio / Team Asobi (I wouldn't put any of these 3 above the other. MM has pushed creativity for a PS game to the limits with LBP and Dreams. San Diego mainly does MLB, but also has some good ports under their belt. Team Asobi and AStro are hits)
SIE Bend Studio's new project is hiring again, and will feature a 'great new concept,' according to PlayStation Studios boss Hermen Hulst.
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@Raiden
you want them to butcher Syphon Filter like Ubisoft did with Tom Clancy games?
@badz149
You're comparing Bend with Ubi?
And this concept was somewhat already tried in SEGA's Alpha Protocol in 2010. Though it wasn't much success due to rushed development. But it was wayy before Ghost Recon Wildlands.
They actually said NO to the studios pitched idea not NO to days gone having a sequal? Maybe one day it'll get a second game and certainly can't rule it out but looking fwd to this new game for sure great studio 😊
I'm just glad they didn't close shop after Days Gone. It's really underrated and I want to see what they can do next.
Yep agree also Sony never said NO to days gone 2 they just said NO to the studios pitched idea of DS2 and going off the MP co/op vibe they pitched I'm glad Sony said NO.
I just want the same massive open world single player story continued tbh
The PC release prob made enough money back to keep them afloat. Dangerous territory when ur 5-yr triple AAA game has avg scores and sales on release. I want to try it just havent found time yet.
We are going to get DG2 before this gen is over I will hope. But this game isn't it.
@RaidenBlack that was made by obsidian. That's their trademark :D
I'd play a more polished version of that!
Tell us you didn't read the headline without actually telling us you didn't read the headline....
I remember Days Gone's reveal and how the media and people were like "it's just another zombie game, lame". Days Gone is still one of the most underappreciated games of last gen. Now it seems that the devs want to try something completely new cause of dumb people who probably never played the game.
Exactly when announced people called it bland and boring and now that Sony gave bend another chances to do a new IP people wants DG2
This is me trying to be fair and objective.
The game sold decent enough. The game reviewed decent enough. But the majority isn't clamoring for a sequel.
I liked the game, but I would rather them try their hand at something different.
A lot on N4G may want a sequel, but many on N4G treat the game as this biased travesty that didn't get its dues, simply because it happened to be one of those Sony backed projects that didn't resonate with people, and got below the reviews Sony exclusives typically get; blaming just a handful of reviews calling the guy a cis white male to blame, when there were multiple stumbles in the overall design, and was buggy even when I played it at multiple patches post launch.
There's definite talent in the studio. It's probably better for them using it towards a new idea.
TheRealTedCruz
It was Sony bends first attempt at a AAA console game in a while so I think whatever they are working in next will be better and more polished. But your points are valid
I don't see how you can rush a game in a few days and enjoy. I always have to take my time.
I agree. I played and beat Days Gone 2 times and had an absolute blast both times. The story, while not amazing, was very good and engaging. The leveling and upgrade system was expansive and refined. The gunplay was polished. Hordes were an amazing dynamic to the game. The motorcycle aspect of the game was where it truly shined. As a motorcycle enthusiast myself, it was really fun getting to upgrade and outfit your bike and cruise around the world with non-stop encounters to keep you engaged.
A few minor gripes with character development, lack of player outfit choices, and repetitive scenery were the only issues I had. I wish the game had some more urban areas to explore instead of mostly just counyside and forests. Some clothes options and story refinements would have also pushed further. I would give the game a 9.2/10. Extremely addicting imo.
Bend studio evolution with days gone was huge. It's a good studio. Let's see what's coming
Exactly. For their first time developing a console game, I say they did a fantastic job. I really liked DG. Looking forward to what they do next. And since they used Unreal engine 4 last game, I'm guessing they're gonna use 5 for this new one. We are in for a visual treat. Can't wait....
Bend used to make playstation games.... and vita games. If anything, this is the first time they made a game that was on anything BUT Sony consoles.
...i love bend studio, golden abyss is my fave psvita game! Hoping to play days gone one day. So im looking forward for their next game.
Sony bend can easily surpassed Naughty dog. Days Gone >>>>> The Last Of Us Part II.
Naughty Dog went from Sony' Top developer to bottom developer.
The ranking from best to worst
1. Insomniac Games
2. Sucker Punch
3. Guirrela Games
4. Sony Bend
5. Naughty Dog
He just need to quickly put up a list to show how much he hates naughty dog, he doesn't care what is in 1-4.
I hate how the story went in The Last of Us 2, but it's a technical masterpiece and its gameplay is something out of a movie, the writing doesn't take that away. They're still PlayStation's top Dog.
That's what annoys me, you dont like the story? I respect that, it's cool. But everything else about the game, from graphics, to attention to detail, and by god the gameplay was in every way shape and form better than the original. Such a snappy, fluid, satisfying set of mechanics. To deny that is just childish
Just because the story didnt go the way you like it, doesnt mean its not a good story. TLOU and Uncharted make ND take the top spot
Bro, if we're talking top 5 Sony studios then Bend isn't on the list. Sucker Punch, SSM, Guerilla, Insomniac, and Naughty Dog.
Bend are talented and have made some good games, but they are not quite on the level of any of those other teams yet.
What's funny and interesting is that they use to be in the top 5 back in the PS1 and PS2 era with Syphon Filter
Lol, that's a crappy way to (intentionally) spoil it for those who haven't played it yet (don't know what they are waiting for).
Well, i'll certainly agree that TLOU2 sucked. Not only was the story crap, the game was just dull and boring. I still don't think the whole studio needs to be thrown to the wolves over it.
But, Neil Drukkman is delusional and thinks his game was flawless and ignored all criticism.....so, it's possible anything he directs in the future, will show nothing learned from TLOU2.
Dull and boring? Lol TLoU2 has some of the most memorable action and stealth sequences in video game history. Also, where did Neil say the game was flawless? The whole studio thrown to the wolves? For making the most awarded game in history? You're delusional and obviously has your feelings hurt by the game lol
@F0XH0UND922 That's funny, there's no part of TLOU2 that stood out as memorable to me. That's the real problem, the game made me feel nothing. Dull and Boring remember? Next to Kingdom Hearts 3 it was one of the most boring "kept playing to say I finished it" experiences ever.
The first game was such an icon, it's amazing how much of a joke 2 was. I said I don't think they need to be thrown to the wolves and Neil IS that kind of guy, he's not worth jumping to his defense. "Most awarded game in history", now that's a true delusion. The only thing impressive about the game is how much people simp for it.
You comedians are getting better by the day...
Yes, the game is controversial but cmon this game is a masterpiece where it matters the most: Gameplay. Flawless, no but as close to it as any other game out there in its niche.
AshleeEmerson I'm pretty sure I called the game boring. Encounters just got so samey and tiresome. Especially didn't help to restart progress halfway through the game making it feel like you wasted your time searching every nook and cranny earlier. It's the first game in a long time i put the game on ultra-easy cus I simply stopped having any fun with the gameplay partway through and just wanted to finish it off.
No.
Naughty Dog is still number 1. Go back and play TLOU2 on PS5 and tell me there's better gameplay, acting, presentation, graphics and detail in another game... I'll wait.
Yes, this is definitely your opinion but... It's obvious if you either don't own a PS console or don't get games.
They are definitely not at the bottom. If there's one developer who has and can set the standards it's Naughty Dog.
I don't have to tell you this but just watch how their PS5 exclusive game (which I'm sure it will be) shuts sh** down but... I don't have to tell you this.
While it's amazing. Ratchet and Clank beats it out graphically, and presentation. Detailing its specific style game yup, but graphical detail ps5 games are beating it. I'd say Miles on ps5 has the most impressive attention to character detail after the muscle deformation update. My point is while it was an amazing masterpiece that holds up even in the new Gen. It's not impressive on a technical standpoint on current Gen. For ps4 absolutely though. And the game does look nice on ps5 for sure. But it's just how it goes with new gens. Was the same for the first one. Amazing technical masterpiece but compared to ps4 games it wasn't a big deal. The game was just that good though. That's the same situation here
Well the easy answer is God of War....But the problem is TLOU2 isn't very good. How pretty it was, is somewhat subjective. I didn't get wow'd by it's presentation compared to other games of that generation. You can brag about the acting all day, but it doesn't mean much when they all play forgettable/boring characters in a poorly written story.
The only time there were likable characters on screen was when you see the younger Ellie and Joel scenes. I would maybe even say I sort of liked Abby, but that's cus they make everyone else so unlikable (Especially Ellie)....oh and fat pony tail guy at the end lol
Lol, look at this snowflake. Still upset about Last of Us 2 being a phenomenal game huh?
Even if you dislike the story. Everything else is way above 99% of games. Script, graphics, animations, sound, acting and Gameplay are some of the best ever made.
I like DG but no my dude. If you didn't like TLOU2 because of the story than you should hate DG. The story was trash.
By far the most clueless take on video game developers I've seen in a long time. Naughty Dog has established themselves as one of, if not the, best game developers in history. The fact that your feelings were hurt by TLoU2 does not discredit all the the critical acclaim and game awards that Naughty Dog has earned. However, it's your right to have that opinion; as childish and misguided as it is.
Just looking for that "fully agree because this obviously makes complete sense" button.
His opinion is misguided and he has to have never played their games. I'm really not trying to bash him but we as gamers, regardless of how biased should at minimum recognize the genius creations they put in our hands.
Yeah, I heard it was a open world survival horror RPG (think an open world TLOU). I also heard that it's pretty much done and when it is announced it will be released not long after (like FO4).
well Shinobi605 is known to have a very good track record about this things, so it stands to be believed this will be true as well, and in that case...... yeahyy :D
So many gems coming to Playstation now and in the near future. Im already engulfed by SFV, Ratchet Clank, Mlb The Show, Salt Sanctuary, Soon Uncharted and not to mention multiplats like Dark Souls 3. Im getting quite a backlog already.
They should make Resistance Retribution II. Survival Horror Third Person Shooting is what Resistance series needs.