New 80GB PS3 Provides Minimal Power Savings, Might Have 65nm RSX GPU

Last Engadget heard, it was still up in the air somewhat as to whether upcoming PlayStation 3 consoles would house the elusive 65-nanometer RSX graphics processor.

[morganfell]

The console is a hot item. Amazon results as of this post are as follows.

Amazon US:

PS3: 80GB PS3 rank 5, MGS4 80GB rank 62, 40GB rank 91

360: 20GB 360 rank 77, 60GB 360 not in top 100

Amazon UK

PS3: 80GB PS3 rank 12, 40GB rank 75, MGS4 80GB not in top 100

360: 60GB 360 rank 30, 20GB 360 not in top 100

Amazon Germany

PS3: 80GB PS3 rank 5, 40GB not in top 100, MGS4 80GB not in top 100

360: 60GB 360 not in top 100, 20GB 360 not in top 100

Amazon France

PS3: 80GB PS3 rank 14, 40GB not in top 100, MGS4 80GB not in top 100

360: 60GB 360 not in top 100, 20GB 360 not in top 100

[wicked]

get a life

[PoSTedUP]

thanks for the info bro. +bubbles ; )

[morganfell]

Back at you Posted! Looks like someone here isn't feeling too grand about information you can get in minutes and it makes their 360 look bad. The fact that it causes them so much angst is proof of who doesn't have a life and it isn't you or I that is missing one ha ha.

[resistance100]

Umm the MGS4 80GB bundle WAS NOT released in Europe, so of course they wouldn't be in the Top 100 in EU amazon sites.

[AIi_The_Brit]

Bubbles posted & morganfell

[juuken]

I think you made someone cry there morgan. You should have asked me for my supply of tissues! >.<

[morganfell]

Uhm you need to go to Amazon.com and have a look. They are in the Top 100 of sales. Sorry to crush you walnuts but WHACK!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

RIGHT IN THE JIMMYS! And that is just the UK.

The same is true for all the territories I mentioned. You see here is the embarrassing part. Even preorders - and those are sales pal - are whacking the hell out of the 360.

juuken was offering tissues so you should get some.

Look at this:

http://www.amazon.fr/gp/new...

Ohhhhh! Right in sack. They must be blue by now. One more shotr coming, brace yourself.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/bes...

The PS3 is coming on like a hurricane and that is just a fact. The games that people want are on the PS3. Any on the 360? Yes. But over all between the two platforms it is the PS3 that is offering the full entertainment experience.

HDTV sales are really starting to gather steam and people wanting to experience that new found wonder are seeing blu.

[zapass]

the bots are hurting up their red ass
and then if you add the japan sales, it's a massive nervous breakdown
and then if you mention the recent US sales it's an epidemic of suicides

lol

[TOSgamer]

The guy bought one just to check how much power it uses? Stupid...

[CrippleH]

^100% agreed.

I ought to Pedigree him.

[TOO PAWNED]

Or maybe he is paranoic green activist LOL

[morganfell]

If you are a gamer and you are that concerned about power consumption then you are not a gamer.

[FantasyStar]

Nothing wrong with trying to protect your investments. Although I wouldn't think of swapping up my 60GB for the 80GB just for the nm downsizing alone.

[ChanDangle]

I agree It's like buying a Ferrari and worrying about gas.

[Panthers]

That is probably the best analogy of the day.

[ChrisGTR1]

so is it true these "core" 80 gigs dont have BC?

[Meus Renaissance]

BC will eventually be provided to ALL models via firmware updates according to David Reeves.

[rushbd]

Can you please direct me to that quote. thanks it really means a lot. :)

[ChrisGTR1]

well i just hope it dosent. so that way itll make our consoles(early adopters)alot more rare.

[TrooGamer]

They are going to do once the PS2 reaches 10 years! It will also be around the time the PS3 is mass market price...why hunder PS3 game s sales now when the PS2 is still selling?

[JoySticksFTW]

because if that is true... Mega-win!

I'll try to look up a quote in the meantime. Thanks for the tip-off.

Edit:

Ok, I found some information about Singstar PS2 Backwards Compatibility with PS3...

http://blog.us.playstation....

I can't find anything definitive though on full BC with all PS3 skus.

[Maywell]

yeah, I would like to know about the BC issue from firmware for all PS3

[DevastationEve]

Ps2 was such a great console, it's a shame to have to play hit n miss with having to play its games on ps3. keep a 60gb original launch model laying around...or JUST FRIGGIN BUY A PS2!!!!

It's cheap enough to buy WITH a PS3, now for a lower price then one 60gb at launch.

[Marceles]

um...ok.

[Marceles]

It's only BC with PS1 titles now. On the first 80 gb systems awhile ago they only removed the CPU (Emotion Engine) but still kept the PS2's GPU (Graphics Synthesizer) so they were able to do software emulation. Now on the newer models coming out now they got rid of the PS2's GPU and CPU...

[cow moolester]

How can you give him bubbles? He's obviously trying to get a rise out of other members. What part of his post is relevant to the article?

The article is about the new Ps3 hardware differences and he's posting sales stats comparing to the 360

[ThatCanadianGuy]

What post is ever relevant to any article in the open zone?

[morganfell]

Well dummy, it shows that despite what this guy thought about the power savings not being a huge advantage, others disagree. Let me guess. You didn't read the article. Typical when a bot enters a PS3 thread.

[DA_SHREDDER]

I got rid of the 60 and 80 gig because my 40 gig doesn't get as hot as the other ones did. Anyone who is familiar with electronics knows that the cooler you keep your pc or ps3 the better. Dont believe me? I will give you guys instructions on how to try this out and see for yourselves. Its simple really.

Get or borrow a 40, 60, and 80 gig and make sure that they are standing upright. Turn them all on and put your hands over the top of them. You can feel the heat generating off of the 60 and 80 gigs, sorta like the ps3 is pushing the hot air out the top of it right? Now try the 40 gig. If you did, you will notice that the 40 gig produces no heat on the top at all. As a matter of fact, you can feel a cool breeze being sucked into the ps3, and the air coming out the back is cooler too.

[BulletToothtony]

and i also noticed that my new Core 80gig is a lot lighter than my 60 gig.. at least a pound lighter

[DanWelsh86]

On that note my replacement 40gig was lighter than my retail one. And it was a new one from Japan as I had to wait 3 weeks for new stock from Japan........but the 40gig makes little heat or noise regardless I will agree. It's the best console I've ever known.

[delgernaran]

BUy a PS3 and PS2 it is cheaper. than buying a PS3 with BC

[kumashii38]

40GB PS3 -
XMB idle - 125.8 watts
DVD playback - 141.2 watts
PS3 MGS4 - 155.2 watts

80GB PS3 Core-
XMB idle - 111.9 watts
DVD playback - 126.0 watts
PS3 MGS4 - 130.0 watts

I think the power-reduction is good enough.
especially the power-reduction during playing PS3 game(MGS4) is almost 25W.
for me at least, it is good.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

they must be retarded . im sorry but buying an xbot is useless..i can understand if you got it before the ps3 came out even i didnt do that . xbot sucks

[cow moolester]

how am I a bot? I play my Ps3 more than my 360. I just think its embarrassing the extent fanboys go to fornicate with their console

[Lucas22]

why is it taking microsoft so long to relese an xbox 360 version with 65nm gpu