Blizzard To Remove Tracer Pose From Overwatch Due To "Sex Symbol" Complaints

Blizzard is removing a character pose from Overwatch due to a complaint about how it sexualizes the character, Tracer.

[DragonbornZ]

Lol ffs. Dude needed to calm down. That pose is fine.

[zeal0us]

No you need to calm down. That pose was gamebreaking and leads men down the sinful path that oversexualize us women. /sarcasm

[PeaSFor]

the Origin Edition will probably end up including burka skins..

[Lord_Sloth]

I can't scrub it away! My hands are bleeding but the stains of my sinful lust are still there! Help!!!

[TheCommentator]

PeaSFor, Bubs up for funny! Sad thing is though, I could see it happening with the way people are complaining all the time. It's not like her pose was spread eagle or anything...

[Griever]

Very soon all girls in gaming will appear in a black Hijab and still kick everyone's ass including the protagonist and the antagonist. Lol! It seems that is what SJWs and feminists want.

Fully covered, masculine, tough talking and ass-kicking women. Oh and dont forget the weak, immature, muscle-headed, bumbling clownish male characters that frequently need to be rescued or knocked some sense into by women. Tales from the borderlands anyone?

Man what are these people turning gaming into... Cant they find any real feminine issues like sexual harassment on jobs, wage gap, education gap, forced prostituion, human traficking etc. to fight instead of being after gaming all the time? Man developers need to grow a spine and stick to their original visions instead of being intimidated by these people.

[vickers500]

People please, stop getting mad at the poster. There have always been and will always be crybabies like this in existence.

The real problem here and the real ones that you should be directing your anger and outrage to are blizzard themselves.

They're the ones cowering to this MINISCULE social pressure. I mean it's one freaking forum post, it's not even a feminist call to arms like most other instances. I just personally let these cowards know (via Twitter, because for some stupid reason, game devs in general seem to respond more to its fans there, I hate twitter) that they have offended me by bending to social pressure, and that they have lost a customer.

Boycott overwatch/blizzard, let them know via email/forum/twitter or whatever dumb form of social media you prefer, that you wont be buying or playing their game because of this ridiculously oversensitive nonsense.

Please fellow gamers, help put a stop to the next game industry ruining trend before it gains any more traction. We couldn't stop microtransactions, but maybe we can stop creative stifling due to oversensitive crybabies. Voice your disgust, or this will continue, and will start happening in games you care more about.

[FarEastOrient]

Some one should complain that artist like Lady Gaga is making too many sexy positions on stage and music videos. /s

How many people were actually complaining, the vocal minority again!?!

[rainslacker]

Funny thing is, if they remove the pose, why not remove the outfit she's wearing also? I mean, other people will see her in the game, and obviously people are going to follow her around and stare at that a**.

Maybe she can get the new Lara to take her shopping for tips on how not to be sexy. Heck, maybe Blizzard should just turn over all female character design to Crystal Dynamics now and get it all out of the way for the next beta.

I have also come to the conclusion that they are obviously only beta testing this game to those who prescribe to sharia law.

I dunno. Maybe blizzard is doing all this to make a point of how stupid it all is. Maybe if they do enough of it(this and the masturbation allusions) then people will finally realize just how stupid it is, and will speak up more...because apparently, we aren't speaking up enough already.

Which makes me wonder why our voices aren't being heard as well...given that there are more of us, and we've been saying how stupid it all is from the beginning.

[DLConspiracy]

That made me laugh out loud. haha

[n4g0006]

some religion hate "Sex Symbol"

[hay]

I'm a woman? No way, where are my tits then!

[naruga]

it wasnt in my plans but i will buy DOA3 Xtreme just to counterblast these decisions and support the people who make games expressing themselves without giving a f#$%k

[AngryTypingGuy]

Companies and sponsors need to learn to ignore sissy do-gooders and not care if they get offended. I love it when people become offended, it puts a warm feeling in my tummy.

People actually worry about those that are offended over everything, yet complain when our entertainment is watered down.

[lociefer]

a guy complains about showing some butt in a ''killing'' game, totally understandable /s

why not cancel the game all together because of the inclusion of the idea of killing, you know what ? let's just cancel every form of media that isn't sesame street.
first street fighter then this, and i'm sure i'v missed some couple of games too that were touched by these cancerous too goodie self righteous ppl.

[ChickeyCantor]

Heil satan.

[Yi-Long]

Game looked interesting, but I won't support self-censorship like this from developers.

Disappointing to hear they are caving in to completely ridiculous complaints like this, from a trolling segment of the Gaming Victim Industry.

There is/was absolutely NOTHING sexual about that pose, but hey, at least the character can now be all about shooting up other people, which is a far lesser crime than 'supposedly' posing sexy.

Shooting people; good. Standing with your back to the camera; very bad.

(!)

[PeaSFor]

i went from "hyped for it" to "thx but no thx, totally skipping it" attitude toward the game simply due to how blizzard is handling the situation, at first i was pretty irked by the removal of the "masturbation gag", now they completely burned the bridge with their risible attention to over-sensitive minority.

from Blizzard or not, you aint getting my money anymore.

[Spyroo]

It wasn't just a dude but feminists backing him

[memots]

They should also remove that Banana from the monkey cause that's clearly racist towards all monkeys and stereotyping them.

[Christopher]

One person complains about something optional, everyone else loses.

[TFJWM]

Complains about something his young daughter is going to see in a teen rated game...

[BattleAxe]

Blizzard should grow a pair, and tell these people to take a hike! The greater public doesn't care about this kind of stuff.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

@TFJWM

If he doesn't feel that his daughter should see it, then don't buy it for her. Simple. Slipper slope; I feel that texas chainsaw massacre should be appropriate for my six year old, guess they need to cater to me now and make it Texas Chainsaw Carving show?

[TFJWM]

@garrettbobbyferguson Ya that is what I was going for, Reading my post I guess it seems that I was on the other side of the fence thou

[ZaWarudo]

I know, i was going to use that pose :(

[joab777]

We as a society have issues. This PC shit has got to stop.

It's funny to me that we live in a time in which political correctness is rampant, acceptance of everything and everyone, and exclusion of anyone who holds true to a particular belief. But at the same time, pornography is rampant. We have crazy people running ramshod over the western world murdering people by the thousands.

And it's like La di da, skipping along on the yellow brick road. Make sure you have a football at airports, and unisex bathrooms, and get rid of this horrible over sexualized pose, but porn is fine, and welcoming 100k refugees as next door neighbors is a great idea. Who cares if the last 3 attacks were done by refugees.

The priorities are so backwards, almost as if we are being entertained by a vegas show, while someone in the back is robbing the casino.

[Rachel_Alucard]

"My young daughter shouldn't be subjected to this sex pose! She should be subjected to tracer being a violent killing machine instead! That'll grow well on her upbringing!"

[Quatron]

To be honest, it's pretty common for Blizzard to relent to the complaints of SJWs.

[BEASELY]

It's sinply a behind-the-back view of the character...

The back half of all females = oversexualization... Ok.

[Antnee534]

It's a fake character in a fake world and it's teen rated meaning suggestive themes(I think teen rated it could very well be m idk) so why care

[Docknoss]

This PC world I'm living in, is getting old real fast.

[Drithe]

Screw Blizzard. They became pussies when they sold out and put "Kung fu pandas" in World of Warcraft. In my opinion Blizzard did this to start hype about the game.

[DiscoKid]

It does seem off-putting for Tracer.

[Bimkoblerutso]

I don't disagree that it's kind of a stupid little bit of fanservice, but for the love of god, it's not destroying the very fabric of society. It is ridiculous the amount of power that SJW's have over the industry right now.

[TorpeAlex]

Who said anything about it destroying the very fabric of society? It sounds like you've got a heck of a misconception built up in your head. Headline reads: 'Blizzard To Remove Tracer Pose From Overwatch Due To "Sex Symbol" Complaints'. If that's the very fabric of society to you then go see a therapist.

I'm sick of people making drastic exaggerations about others expressing their opinions instead of offering a counterpoint to create an actual dialogue. Yours in this case was, bizarrely, agreeing with the latter but then proceeding to complain about it.

[donthate]

To me it is amazing that the industry don't recognize this issue more. I don't see Hanzo or the Gorilla showing their ass more? :D

My point is, if you have a counter opinion state it so the powers may be have your say in it. Otherwise, please GTFO.

[Feralkitsune]

@donthate

Hanzo is basically a extremely attractive shirtless man running around. How is that not sexualized?

[Bimkoblerutso]

@TorpeAlex

"I'm sick of people making drastic exaggerations about others expressing their opinions"

Oh the sweet irony of it all.

Why would anyone be complaining if the assumption wasn't that this was somehow damaging to the image of women in the media? Why would this not just go unnoticed as what it is: a bit of off-color fanservice in a game that NO ONE is going to mistake for representing how women should be perceived in the real world?

Like I said, I agree that it's just stupid, unnecessary fanservice, but unless you think it's somehow hurting someone or something, then why the hell would the goal be to get something removed from a game just because it doesn't appeal to you?

[rainslacker]

@donthate

I'm pretty sure most of us have been expressing our opinion on this subject for years now. However, it doesn't seem to make much difference.

It is rather ironic that the primary consumer of these games have less say on what goes into them than those random people in forums who happen to bring up a complaint, or the rampant extremist who have no intention to buy the game, because even if something is changes, they've already made up their mind that it's sexist and demeaning.

Funny huh?

I mean, if I go onto the forums and say I was looking forward to this game because I liked the sexy pose of tracer, would they put it back in? If I started a petition asking them to put it back in, and got 10K signatures from people who intend to buy the game, would they put it back in?

The answer is no, because things like this have happened, and it doesn't change anything, because companies are more concerned with not getting negative PR to hopefully sell it to someone who might buy it as well if they don't offend them, and those that would buy it anyways are not even worth bothering trying to appease.

[jaymacx]

Big companies have to cave in to sjw agenda... Have you guys seen the news lately? They are talking about not having a superbowl in atlanta due to a law being passed about who can use what bathroom. I agree what others have said above me that if they trully wanted women's rights they'd attack the things that are really damaging people. But this isnt about equality its about control

[donthate]

@rainslacker:

The thing is that YOUR opinion has been the only opinion for years, and that is what has shaped the industry. Now that we an somebody with an different opinion influencing the industry, YOU are no longer happy. You perceive it as your opinion has no effect, but reality is that your opinion is already what the industry is by standard. That said, if there is enough of you complaining the opposite, and the developers believe your plight has cause (which it does not in this case) then they are likely to oblige.

I do not consider myself a rampant extremist, but I do buy these games. I know many people that do, and clearly the person complaining is trying out the beta and care about the game and Blizzard. So I think it is disingenous to call it "non-customers". On top of this, there are a lot of female gamers, but the industry is extremely hostile towards women i.e. they really aren't tolerant of women.

So more aptly said, they are potential customers....

I think it is time the gaming community grows up from being an immature male dominated culture.

[2pacalypsenow]

Anyone watch the Movie Equilibrium? well that movie shows were we are headed as a society smh..

[Deadpooled]

I haven't seen it but thanks for the recommendation

[Artemidorus]

It's a good film

[TorpeAlex]

It's a bad film with okay fight scenes. Also features the quickest on-screen Sean Bean death in his career.

[Fez]

haha poor Sean Bean :(

Typecast as a dead man.

[Pookandpie]

Is that the movie with Christian Bale and the close range gunfighting?

Jesus, I loved that movie but only watched it once years ago. brb, going to go watch it again (or be really disappointed if I'm thinking of the wrong movie).

[2pacalypsenow]

Thats the one

[Sniperwithacause]

It's on Netflix

[TheCommentator]

Gunkata FTW!

[Pookandpie]

Ah, just rewatched it. So freaking good. Thank you 10x over for reminding me about this movie!

[Christopher]

Gun-katas?!? Yes! I can't wait to don my robes and dodge some bullets!

[TheCommentator]

So does Idiocracy! Social media is dumbing people down to the point they're killing themselves with it. A few months ago a man who was texting while hiking walked off a cliff in spite of onlookers yelling at the man to stop. A few years ago a couple killed themselves taking a selfie, in front of their child, because they got too close to a cliff and fell off. If there is a world outside of social media and the internet, it appears to be getting ignored more and more as time passes.

[rainslacker]

It's funny, because idiocracy came out before social media was a big thing, and news media wasn't quite so tabloidesque. It was actually parodying a concept of what would happen if people don't think for themselves, and wasn't meant to be allegorical. But here we are, 10 years later, and you'd think you were watching a documentary of modern times.

The movie rated pretty low with the critics(it actually wasn't that great), but it actually has more meaning on the current state of things, and likely what they'll end up as, than it did 10 years ago. Almost brilliantly so in fact.

[Yokan]

The man walking off a cliff while using a cell phone? Was that in regards to the guy who passed away at the Sunset Cliffs? In San Diego?

[TheCommentator]

Yes it was, Yokan. I couldn't remember the specifics about the incident so thank you! I also read recently that New Jersey may make it illegal to text and walk by placing a $50 fine on anyone who does.

[SaveMeJebus]

As long as I can learn Guncata i'm in.

[Pandamobile]

It does look pretty amateurish. It also doesn't really add anything to the character of Tracer beyond "look at my ass".

[spicelicka]

lol that's literally what it is. Why do people care if they're changing it? They chose to change, it's not an infringement of their artistic freedom.

[memots]

actually it is.

They did the animation and wanted it there. Its their work. They shouldn't be told by someone to remove it because of their daughter.

[brave27heart]

@ memots

Go transfer all of your money into my bank account now.

What? You're not going to do it? How dare you not do something you've been asked to do by a complete stranger!

We all have a choice in everything, and Blizzard could have chosen not to change the animation. They didn't, which suggests to me they had a meeting, looked at what their motive was for Tracer striking that pose and came up with the answer "because it's sexy" and then debated whether that was a good enough reason for having it in. They obviously decided that wasn't what they were aiming for and removed it. Out of choice.

I highly doubt one vocal complaint made them change their mind. There will be people complaining about lots of different things and they won't all get listened to and changed. Blizzard have a choice. They chose to remove it.

[spicelicka]

@memtos

No it is not. They weren't "told" to do anything. Someone just filed a complaint, it happens every day for every thing. If I didn't like your comment, I can report it to N4G, but it's up to N4G to do something about it. I'm not telling them and I sure can't force them.

"They did the animation and wanted it there."

That doesn't mean one can't criticize it, specially when the game is made for the consumer. It's not the animator's private art. We didn't hold back on criticizing Dante from Devil May Cry, when they changed his design to a Gothic looking character. We do this on just about any character whenever we feel like it. I don't see how this is any different as long as someone is only voicing their dislike.

I'm not saying there's a deeper bigger issue here. As far as feminism goes, I have nothing to say about that.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Every character has that pose. It's a petty complaint.

[BEASELY]

People have asses, they exist.

[Artemidorus]

I wish to make a complaint about the complainers.

I want them banned immediately.

[Tsunade]

wow

[PaleMoonDeath]

Wimps.. imagine someone telling you to take down your work because they found it "Too sexual"

World is run by Beta-males.

[Agheil]

"Beta-Males" Love that hahah

[PaleMoonDeath]

Haha! the world's full of touchy wimpy people who do whatever they can not to offend anyone.

Bugger that, offend away! that's how entertainment was in the golden age!

[memots]

the war on boys/men is going the way of feminazi and they are winning way too easy.

[rainslacker]

Hey...calling us boys is sexist....I want you banned.

With all due respect of course. Wouldn't want you to be offended by my offense of your offensive stance...and that stance I don't feel is suggestive or provocative in any way, nor will I look at you for more than 3 seconds, and only at your elbow, because eye contact, or any other part of the body is obviously off limits.

[Chaos_Order]

In the future all game characters will be overweight, flat-chested, turkey-necked sloths with saggy butts.

Unfortunately, this is body-shaming people in countries like Ethiopia who are on average, extremely underweight. They are offended by the unrealistic standards of fat slobs given the lack of food and clean water. However, since they don't live in a privileged country like America, their voices are worth less than the shrieking, rainbow-haired trust fund babies who really need our help. They are so oppressed it is unbelievable.

#HelpEndSuffering

[PFFT]

SMH........

[ninsigma]

Quite pathetic. Blizzard clearly has no spine.

[spicelicka]

Or maybe they realized they're not fooling anyone by showing ass. Either way, decision was theirs.

[Gh05t]

Yep and they made the decision to add it in the first place. They "CHANGED" only after complaints were made.That would mean outside pressure INFLUENCED the NEW decision.

[rainslacker]

Does make one wonder how they go from the night elf dance in wow, animated after the dance of a 15 year old french singer who came to fame as the personification of a sexy lolita who didn't give a damn what other people thought, with the song the dance came from being about a girl talking about how hot she was, and being about how she was sick of what other people thought of her and always judging her based on a personified image and wasn't going to concern herself with it anymore....

to showing one's butt in a full body suit being too offensive.

Quite the contrast huh?

[ninsigma]

People are obviously way too offended these days when looking at the contrast between those two. I doubt many batted an eye lid for the first one in wow and now the new hyper sensitive generation gets ruffled feathers over the slightest thing. I wish companies would stop bowing to demands to people who clearly can't function correctly.

[ShadowWolf712]

Apparently a pose literally invalidates all of a character's unique traits and instantly makes them bland and cliche.

Who knew?

[Gh05t]

Yep which is why every female celebrity I have ever seen on a magazine cover, movie, Instagram photo, or advertisement in a pose that can even be perceived as sexual is just a meat bag with no quality at all.

It amazes me how they want it both ways... Don't tell women to cover up and be modest, and don't let other women flaunt their sexuality... bunch of contraDICKtory snowflakes.

[rainslacker]

To be fair, a nice butt does make a girls personality irrelevant.

[Relientk77]

Oh cmon Blizzard what are you gonna remove from the game tomorrow

this is ridiculous

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

They're removing Hazno entirely next because he's offensive to real ninjas.

[Lionalliance]

Are you kidding me?!

[Cy]

Blizzard does realize that giving into SJW whining just makes them that much more eager to find things to whine about, right? Just ignore them and they'll go away. It's not like they actually buy games anyway.

[blackblades]

Still say people should stand up and fight it, if not they're just going to roll over everthing. We already getting censored content from the orginal soon it'll get worse.

[Bobafret]

Trigger warning! A woman was represented in a way to exude her sexuality that was completely optional! I need a safe space. Hold me.

[Kniight-07-]

Before we know it they are just going to take all the female characters out of the game smh

[ONESHOTV2]

"I have a young daughter that everyday when I wake up wants to watch the recall trailer again. She knows who tracer is, and as she grows up, she can grow up alongside these characters". if you grow your daughter in the right way she would not look at the game and say yeah i like how she pose let me go and follow her. kids always follow what the parents tell them to do so why is this guy worried about a game character. teach the little girl how you want her to grow and stop with the bull about a game character.

[Kalebninja]

"kids always follow what the parents tell them to do "

Oh really?

[ONESHOTV2]

well most of them lol what i'm saying is that parents are a bigger influence to their kids than a games character would be.

[rainslacker]

Kids do emulate the media they see. However, their own personalities and sense of self worth are shaped by a lot of things, and if it's shaped primarily by fictional characters which she's likely to only have exposure to for a year or two(grow up with is a stretch really), then the parent has failed big time. Funny thing is, one's sense of self worth and self image typically changes drastically by the time they hit their late teens or early twenties, and then again around their 30's, and again sometime after 40. To think that this game would be a negative long term influence on his daughter growing up is just rediculous, and I think the guy is too worried and way too protective over what his daughter is exposed to. I mean, if he's really worried that his daughter is going to be influenced by a game, maybe he shouldn't be letting her play a game that allows her to go around shooting people. On top of that, this game has a lot of crude humor to it, which probably isn't appropriate for a young girl that would be influenced by it in the first place.

[X-23]

Name calling isn't the politically correct way to engage someone in a conversation or critique their opinion, but sorry...I just gotta say it. SJW's are idiots most of the time, no real world sense so instead of going outside and actually making a change in the real world (or at least trying to) they stick to the safe haven that is the internet...where..."Every one better take us seriously or we'll write dirty articles about them."

Tracer's sex appeal is about as obvious in design as it is for most of the characters on the female and male side. It's like being upset because a female comic book character's outfit is tight and shows off her features. Same crap for the male heroes, but no men whine.

Anyway, SJW's need to grow up, never did I think a group of people could be so overly sensitive and emotionally fragile off of something so minuscule. It's equally discouraging to see that there are people who are willing to stifle their creativity just for the sake of the idiots who aren't fans of your product in the first place, they couldn't be...if they spend all their time being offended by it.

In closing listening to the people who play and support their game needs to be the priority for Overwatch or any other game, not trying to appease an audience of people who don't appreciate your work in the first place.

[TorpeAlex]

"never did I think a group of people could be so overly sensitive and emotionally fragile off of something so minuscule."

Says the person who just typed four paragraphs on the subject. Just saying.

[Spyroo]

Spot the feminist.

[Pancit_Canton]

They might as well remove the ESBR and forget about the age rating and stuff like that. #FHNPIVG Feminism has no place in video games.

[Tdmd]

I wonder if they'll remove *his pose as well:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

[CoLD FiRE]

You'll have to bring attention to it for them to even consider removing it.

[ZaWarudo]

UGH What a disgusting display of the male body, i'm very much offended right now. BRB going to rage-spam Overwatch twitter.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Whoaaaa way too much shoulder, I'm getting triggered here.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Not to worry, I'll make sure they don't remove anyone elses lewd shoulder pose. So I have designed an alternative Tracer pose so Blizzard can satisfy both parties

http://imgur.com/7bK0tht

[blackblades]

Maybe they should take out all women in video games problem solve wait they'll probably bs about no women in them. With all the nudity and sexual content on the net and movies they complaining about a pose.

[Saxism]

I'm tired of people acting out emotional. We need more sexual and broad adult themes in games. I want DOA-like female models in all games. Especially customizable online games like Call of Duty, Destiny and all the MOBA style games NEED overly sexualized content. No wonder we players find ourselves bored... Lets embrace everything from our cultures and produce broad content for the mature audience.

[SuperbVillain]

there is other shit going on in the world you could voice a complaint at,and this person chose this...BS

[XanderZane]

Hhhmm.. I don't see anything wrong with the pose at all. Not like she's bent over or anything like that. She's standing straight up, looking over her shoulder. So should any male poses like this be removed as well? /s This is just sad.

[Fist4achin]

(Initiates tracer pose) Made you look!

[Chaos_Order]

There is literally nothing sexual about that pose. Literally. Nothing. Nada. Zero.

Is it considered 'sexualised' because we can see her butt, and she's leaning slightly? Because people lean slightly all the time and most people have butts. It's not like she's giving bedroom eyes or holding her hand on her hip, or pushing her ass out or biting her lip or anything. She's just standing there.

I genuinely can't see how anyone could possibly take any issue with this.

[spicelicka]

But you know the artist was thinking of detailing her ass to get more people to look at the pic. It's as simple as that.

To "sexualize" means to give something a sexual association. Pretty much every man sees a girl's butt with a sexual regard, of course that doesn't mean it can't be viewed respectfully. It's not that you can see her butt, it's that you can literally see her butt crack, as if she has body paint on instead of pants. You can't deny that your eyes are naturally attracted to that character's butt ever so slightly, this is exactly the artist's intention. So I would still call this sexual even though I'm not complaining.

Now whether or not there's anything wrong with that is a different story. Criticizing it is a right every individual has, just like anyone would do if she had a distracting booger handing out her nose, I mean most people have boogers right? But complaining to get it removed is certainly taking it to the next level.

I personally would roll my eyes at the most, but never ask them to remove it. Maybe women take it more personally I don't know.

Edit: I didn't realize the controversy was only related to her pose. I assumed they were asked to make her butt line less visible.

[Tallpine]

I'd like to see Blizzard shut down the complainers. Make the game you want to make, forget those who can't handle it.

[DivineAssault]

What a bunch of cry babies.. Blizzard is dumb for listening too unless it was Activisions decision.. IDK but its really not a big deal.. Whats wrong with the world of gaming?

[TheJacksonRGN]

Idiots, a male character in the game has the same friggin pose!

[Ristul]

You forgot the feminist golden rule, when it's men the rules don't appy - only women can be sex symbols!

[CaitSith]

According to them, the oppressors can't be oppressed. Why am I the same species as these people...

[WoshJills]

Good job, Blizzard. I actually like it when games don't cater to 12 year olds. Treating female characters with dignity makes the game more fun and universal.

Look at Last Of Us, for example: people play as badass women all the time and not once did Naughty Dog call attention to gender.

The same goes for Rainbow Six: Siege - Ash, IQ, and Frost are awesome women everyone loves to play as and respects playing against.

With that said -- I don't see anything wrong with the pose. It isn't particularly sexy, but if some people find it so, it is best to err on the side of gender equality.

[TheJacksonRGN]

They are not catering to 12 year olds, a male character in the game has the same pose you can unlock. It is the generic over the shoulder pose.

[Germany7]

LOL, seriously?
That's why we need Donald Trump so much.

[mixelon]

No. Just no. Haha.

[TheJacksonRGN]

Look multiple characters have this pose male and females. Yet they only complain about Tracer, lol!

https://twitter.com/cidsa/s...

[ZaWarudo]

Shooting people in the face and blowing stuff up is perfectly fine, but a teeny weeny bit of sexuality is crossing the line.

I'm really disappointed in Jeff.

[Lonnie18]

Wow so gaming companies are all folding in to these fem groups lol. All we gonna have in games is guys :(

[Paulino30]

I guess his daughter does not watch music videos, movies, or tv in general. Where don't you see women oversexualized? If he finds that pose offensive and bad influence for his daughter, she can't be on Facebook either. It's bad for her to see that pose but it's okay for her to watch and play trailers of people shooting other people? Where's the logic?

I don't really care that they are removing it, but people need to relax with the " I'm offended" crap.

[Ace326]

The problem here is that some people consider this to be an actual problem. Why can't female protagonists be this way. How does this make them weak or bland. It's just petty. Video Games are supposed to be art and complaining about how the creators display their art just takes away from that idea. This isn't offensive and the art style really doesn't make it feel sexual. Why must creators be desired by the public when there isn't even a confirmation that the persons story is true and if they are even going to buy it.

[WilliamSheridan]

This is getting out of hand. Even if it adds a little sexuality, who cares? You don't see me complaining about the overly buff dudes that keep appearing shirtless in video games do you? Perhaps you are trying to tell me they aren't drawn that way to look sexy and masculine?

Jesus Christ, a strong woman can kick ass AND enjoy her sexuality. Since when does embracing sexuality make you weaker?

[rlow1]

the internet reminds me of the man, the boy and the donkey. The man was riding the donkey as the boy was walking besides them and the people said what a cruel father. They switched places and the crowd said, what a ungrateful son. Then they got off the donkey and the crowd said, they were stupid for not riding the donkey. So they both jumped onto the donkey and the crowd said, poor donkey.

I guess it goes to show that sometimes you need to ignore the crowd and that the developers should grow a pair and not give into this kind of crap.

Oh, forgot, we don't want little Amanda to have low self esteem because of a picture. Probably if she watched things like movies, tv, surfing the wholesome internet and look at magazines she wouldn't see any demeaning things....cough!!! Whats gaming turning into??????

[dillhole]

Ugly women get angry.
I'm not angry that I'll never be as tough and good looking as Nathan Drake.
Victim culture. That's what it is.
Bullshit.

[Warshade]

First Hearthstone, then HOTS, Now this. I am pretty done with Blizz I used to love their games they managed to tell the greatest stories in the oddest genres and places. Now they are just catering to the mindless masses.

[Eidolon]

Ughh, these people.

[mixelon]

Haha, oh well. They still have sexily acting characters, and I can see why some people felt it out of character for her. I'd probably have left it in, but it's only a pose so it's a little silly how out of shape some people get about it's removal.

[Gh05t]

...but it's only a pose so it's a little silly how out of shape some people get about it's INCLUSION.

Fixed it for you.

People are bent out of shape due to the pressure that lead to its removal and the ramifications it has as a precedent.

The silly ones are the people who thought it was offensive enough to need it removed, rather than remove themselves from something they find offensive.

After all its just a pose, right?

[mixelon]

No. Both.

It's stupid people care much either way. It's a totally trivial thing that doesn't exactly matter whether it's included or not.

Storm in a teacup. The game will neither be better or worse because of this.

[fluxmulder]

First the masturbation gag, now this. Why is Blizzard bending over backwards to these idiotic complaints? Come on, grow some spine.

[Red3f1ned]

I'm so tired of this crap. First DOAX3... now this... The only reason these asshats have any say so is because people give into their whining. SJwhores are slowly taking away people's freedom of expression bit by bit, and what pisses me off the most is it could totally be avoided by not giving into their bitching. The only reason they have any power is because people give it to them. God... I can't even believe this even remotely bothers anyone. If a little pose offends you, good luck with life. That's all I gotta say.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

Too skinny too, all female PCs and NPCs should look like Ellie from Borderlands, wear a baggy wool jersey and baggy sweatpants.

[Rachel_Alucard]

The forums are exploding with rage at blizzard. 85% of the threads after that one post are people expressing their disappointment with how blizzard has been handling the game so far. With the masturbation mags and now this being removed, most people think that by removing something you make it better but they don't understand is nothing ever gets replaced because of it. You're just demanding the dev cut content and things people worked on for hours/days at a time just to have one post invalidate their work. Everything will be homogenized in the future so as not to risk offending anyone and everything (which will still find a way) The problem is now there is no way to get blizzard to add it back because being in their position they cannot change their decision as easily as they could make it. It would require days and weeks of constant pressure on them from a large amount of people to get them to alter it, but as far as blizzard knows everyone will forget about it in a week or 2 and things will continue on.

[rainslacker]

They could add it back. Say they listened to the feedback of the fans, and would probably get some good will from it....and lots of support from the majority. Sure they'd have to get the backlash from the SJW, who will make it into a big deal, but those voices will be drowned out everywhere except Kotaku, Polygon, and SJW youtube channels, and no one goes to those places anymore except the SJW that don't play games anyways.

Eventually they could pull a MS, and say, "Well, Overwatch isn't for you. Instead we have.....well we don't have anything for you because all of our games are violent, and will probably offend you at some point because we're f**king Blizzard and our games are awesome."

I seriously can't think of a single Blizzard game that wouldn't have something in it that would offend a SJW. Even battle chess and Lost Vikings back in the SNES days.

But damn if there aren't a lot of women who play WOW and Diablo.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Jeff just wrote another post right after the last one he made about removing the pose.

"Well, that escalated quickly…

While I stand by my previous comment, I realize I should have been more clear. As the game director, I have final creative say over what does or does not go into the game. With this particular decision, it was an easy one to make—not just for me, but for the art team as well. We actually already have an alternate pose that we love and we feel speaks more to the character of Tracer. We weren’t entirely happy with the original pose, it was always one that we wrestled with creatively. That the pose had been called into question from an appropriateness standpoint by players in our community did help influence our decision—getting that kind of feedback is part of the reason we’re holding a closed beta test—but it wasn’t the only factor. We made the decision to go with a different pose in part because we shared some of the same concerns, but also because we wanted to create something better.

We wouldn’t do anything to sacrifice our creative vision for Overwatch, and we’re not going to remove something solely because someone may take issue with it. Our goal isn’t to water down or homogenize the world, or the diverse cast of heroes we’ve built within it. We have poured so much of our heart and souls into this game that it would be a travesty for us to do so.

We understand that not everyone will agree with our decision, and that’s okay. That’s what these kinds of public tests are for. This wasn’t pandering or caving, though. This was the right call from our perspective, and we think the game will be just as fun the next time you play it.

If it isn’t, feel free to continue sharing your concerns, thoughts, and feedback about this and other issues you may have with the game, please just keep the discussion respectful.

Thanks,

jeffrey"

[ArmoredCoreVI]

I'm speechless right now. The sheer absurdity of this ordeal is beyond words.

smh

[Grayshadow]

Remember when Rainbow Mika's buttslap caused the internet to go berserk, forcing Capcom to remove it. I'm seeing it here, perhaps Blizzard wants to avoid that and just straight for the easy solution. I personally think they should've kept it, this is a slippery slope where one complaint can shift the course of development for a game.

It's a small change for now but how long till we get another Mass Effect 3 issue?

[JOWAPPO]

Like I said already when they removed something else due to earlier complaints of being offended,

"we don't get to decide for others what does and doesn't "add" to the work, that's up to the artists. For us, it's up to each and every individual to decide for themselves (unless you're a parent, then you look at the rating, dummy).

The point is that we don't--and CANNOT POSSIBLY--know more about this Tracer character than the devs who created her, and it's not our place to try and force our version of that character onto everyone else.

It'd be like walking up to a painting and scratching out something you didn't like. No one has the right to do that but the artist (and even then, that depends on how long the artist has allowed the work to permeate with surrounding culture, because any change after a certain period of time may harm the work's cultural significance, ala the Star Wars re-releases).

Clearly this is a parent who must not know what a rating is, because how do you let your kid play a T rated game and then complain about T rated themes?

Stuff like this makes my brain hurt.

[Vanfernal]

And another company caves in to SJWs... The problem here is that people go out of their way to be offended by everything.I remember when people used to fight the game industry because they were tired of games being censored... Now people are actively pushing for censoring games. Everything is offensive to someone at some point. So where do we draw the line? No DOA Xtreme 3 on the west, Rainbow Mika's butt slap, this harmless pose... Just because a VERY VOCAL minority wants the world to adjust to THEM. It's really sad just how self entitled this idiots are. And even sadder that people cater to their ridiculously oversensitive needs.

[slappy508]

Dad is afraid his daughter might emulate the character's 'sexual' pose but he's fine with the character going on killing sprees, sure got his priorities right hasnt he? :p

[Ristul]

That's Why I respect Rockstar so much, they stand up for creative freedom and would never cave like the spineless people at Blizzard.

[khinter]

totally agree! that's what makes them a spectacular company and fantastic game designers

[Pazto]

Blizzard, show some guts. You are better than this.

[NerveGearneeded]

the pose is bad but the costumes of all the female heroes are fine...

[Grown Folks Talk]

Yet there's a thousand RPGs with girls who look 12 years old outside of their Dolly Parton like breasts, wearing metal bikinis.

[SynestheticRoar]

Blizzard weak asses.

[NoraaK_StormCrow]

That's how I stand in line when I wait for the bus in the morning....

[Servbot41]

Good thing I don't like anything Blizzard releases these days. Makes it much easier to boycott them that way.

[Ogygian]

Jesus save us from this vile sin!!! Repent vile heathens for staring at a woman posing...indecently!

Feminism is basically 16th century Christianity reborn in a slightly different way.

[Angerfist]

And there it is again - the backing down the caving in to some radical intolerant leftists. Who is going to free us of all this insanity? I'm tired of this group of people that ddoes anything to feel offended, to be a victim.

[andron]

It's stupid yeah, but Blizzard are clearly trying to make this game appeal to as many as possible to maximize possible profits. This seems more a pr stunt in such regard...

[Peanuts110]

Anyone that is complaining should prove that they bought a copy of the game. If they didn't buy it they shouldn't be complaining about it. Fake gamers. I seen lot people dressed more provocatively than that character in real life. Internet bullies at their finest.

[mep69]

People really have nothing better to do in their lives other than complain about their poor minds being offended

[Matpan]

So, if it is not "such a big deal"... why bother defending it SO hard? I mean it is just one pose for one character. We are in a day and age where the debate of gender equality is being held. It is not such a problem to let go of some thing in order to show a path of concensus and understanding.

Really, the game suffers nothing from this. the same argument "stop bitching and whining" could be made for all those outcries AGAINST this being pulled down.

[kingdom18]

I am sure they are using slippery slope logic in that if developers will go so far as to remove something so harmless as a slightly sexualized pose what else will they do to appease certain groups? Which I believe is a fair analysis of the situation but compared to other developers this seems to be far from the norm unless I am mistaken which is always a possibility, it is just something to be outraged about.

[Dixiedevil]

This is getting so friggin stupid. Remember when Christian groups were trying to ban all this stuff and devs didn't care? Can we go back to those days please. I won't give my money to any of these companies that bend over to this kind of horseshit.

[xX1NORM1Xx]

This is completely absurd

[DillyDilly]

Next they will just cancel the Western release

[MeteorPanda]

that ass looks like a mango, why cut it out? it made me want mangoes...

[SlightlyRetarted]

It's funny how scared developers are about these SJW's.

[Budrazor]

Next thing their gonna do is either blur out characters all but the head or put the black line thru them.

[MilkMan]

Whats wrong with her pose?!
Who the hell complained about something like this!

[Pullmywaffle]

You mean "lack of" ass? For god's sake, samus in her varia suit would look sexier doing this pose. This fipps tard sounds like he just got tired of seeing this pose after getting "his" ass handed to him. The fact that Blizzard is changing their game to appease a few unics tells me they're as weak as capcom and NoA.

[Tonykid]

This is a T rated game where people kill each other for sport and you're complaining about a pose. Really. Censorship at its finest when a couple of people with a shitty blog starts to whine.

[wannabe gamer]

These guys have hit on something. I think we should also stop allowing cosplay at any conventions for the same reasons.

(joke, calm down)

[mochachino]

Gaming, the only medium where you can't use sex symbols.

Meanwhile half these SJWs have littered their instagram and facebook with sexy selfies, duck face, alluring poses, and and walk around in tights and tops that show more TnA than that pose ever could.

Maybe every female in videogames should wear a full burka from now on.

[Enigma_2099]

All right... this s*** is getting out of hand.

[Surt]

Who is surprised? Really? I always expected overwatch to be the 2016 "happy shooter". The dragon age of shooters.

Pandering.. ahem I mean embracing this more bleeding heart gen.

I wouldn't be surprised if no vote to kick, or mute will be in game. Just banning. As to make it a "safe place" lol

[MCTJim]

My biggest complaint about this pose is that while its all over the television where innuendos run rampantly, Why are some people are losing their minds over a pose in a video game and are ok with it on TV/adverts etc?

[contradictory]

what a joke...
this is the world we're living in ladies and gentleman.
big companies like Blizzard are making conscious efforts to censor because of SJW's getting butthurt over trivial shit

[OMEGAXS1]

I'm pretty sure his daughters going to be posing like that in a mirror talking about how good her arse looks when she gets a little older. Flippin idiot.

[DDMNeo]

People need to calm down. They flat out said this was something they were discussing changing the pose anyway internally for something more appropriate to the character's personality. What happened to people defending people's creative choices?

[Gh05t]

Because I don't believe one word that comes out of Jeff's mouth.

What would you say to calm people down? No guys its okay we were going to get rid of this pose anyways even though multiple characters have the same one. It just didn't fit her character... Too late, Blizzard looks like a TOOL.

[DDMNeo]

Has it occurred to you it might just be a placeholder pose if multiple characters have it?! You're being paranoid about this whole thing. Also they don't need to go into full PR lying mode for something so harmless. You're just being crazy.

[PurpHerbison]

How do you nerf that of 2 legs and no ass?

[Bass_fisherman]

Its a very normal pose even this game were for kids that would be acceptable.

Devs should really stop taking the "fans" so seriously

[Dagobert]

Lets get rid of feminism and make this world great again.

[khinter]

I'll leave this here -

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[ninjahunter]

Her gluteus were pretty maximus.