Sony's PlayStation VR Is Pretender, Not Contender For VR King At GDC 2016

"If you’ve enjoyed Gear VR and want that fun mobile experience with console strength behind it, PlayStation VR would be a good buy. It’s gimmicky and it’s going to have some fun stuff. But if you really want a Vive or Rift and just can’t afford it, getting in the ballpark with a $500 Playstation VR set-up isn’t going to feel like a wise investment."

[glassgannon909]

it would be hilarious to see this so called 'writer' be fed crow when a 'pretender' is smashing the 'real' vr in sales left and right.

and i dont knows about you guys, but having the headset mimic my movements every damn time i play the game isnt my idea of a fun gaming session,infact im pretty certain im just gonna be playing regular games with a regular controller in cinema mode most of the time, lying on the bed.

tl:dr
the writer doesnt think psvr is vr because it doesnt have you play games where the character only walks when you walk. he likes to think thats immersive.
which i kinda dont understand tbqh because uh...wouldnt he have to stop and turn around every 5 steps to continue playing the game?

[naruga]

ridiculous article..has the guy ever played other games except VR games ?...
@ author, buttons =simplicity, convenient, undeniable way to play ANY game...motion controls still to prove themselves and make sense in games, all the efforts until now were proved failures. VR maybe another chance for them but calling bad PSVR because its controls are counting mainly on longstanding welltested buttons its by default idiotic

[Cupid_Viper_3]

Seeking them "clicks" HARD, I see. Just spewing written diarrhea everywhere eh? Haha, carry on!

Reminds me of the days when BluRay was getting dragged through the mud. Remember how Sony fans were being laughed at for supporting BluRay when the entire entertainment industry was already shifting towards the technology similar to how the entire industry is now once again doing for VR?

To the author, stay bitter my friend...

[dcbronco]

Cupid bluray is not a good thing to use as an comparison here. Bluray is what he is saying psvr will be. Bluray never surpassed DVD and probably never will. On top of that streaming has already surpassed bluray and probably DVD as well. Bluray was expected to beat DVD and eliminate it more quickly than DVD killed VHS.

[raymantalk1]

@dcbronco

so you think dvd is better than bluray ?
do you need glasses ?

streaming has not surpassed dvd/bluray or they would not be selling them.

ps almost everyone i know buys bluray rather than dvd.

[s45gr32]

VR will not be at the level of Sword Art Online yet. I do want to point out that Kinect is a better option than a gamepad if you want to be part of the gameworld not an outsider.

[johndoe11211]

@dcbronco

.............what????........ ... just asking, do you know what a DVD and Bluray is??

[freshslicepizza]

oh, so now it's all about sales? hmm, i remember a time not too long ago where people thought the wii was a gimmick and not a real console even though it was outselling the other two guys.

i for one am not going to trust one article, i will wait for multiple reviews. but i do want to try out all the vr headsets. i think if i do enjoy it you might as well buy the best one since it's a rather big investment any way you go. it starts at $800 for the ps4 combo and all the way up to $2,000 for a decent pc combo.

[dcbronco]

Hey Rayman, thanks for speaking up for the lack of comprehension skills group. Nothing I said was about technical ability. I commented that bluray has not, and will not, fulfill its intended purpose of taking overall the movie market. It hasn't, it won't. You probably have a bunch of friends who fit in the very same demographic of, you. So they might buy bluray. But the general public buys DVDs and they stream. Bluray was expected to eliminate DVD within five or six years. Yet over ten years after bluray was launched DVD still sells more disc. And is still around. Can I tell the difference, yes. But many can't and even more most don't care.

As much as fanboys like to think of themselves as audio and videophiles, the vast, vast majority are just not. You're not buying twenty thousand dollar stereo separates or twenty thousand dollar TVs.

4k looks even better but the average consumer outside of Japan doesn't really care.

Here's some information for you from an industry source.

http://homemediamagazine.co...

You can look back at previous issues to see bluray has always been behind and at one point was catching up in revenue. But streaming has forced prices down and now DVD revenue is twice bluray revenue again.

[dcbronco]

Rayman here's a article even more to my point.

http://www.homemediamagazin...

Streaming kills bluray and DVD combined. Venture outside the PlayStation, Sony I only want physical media mindset. The general public had moved on. With 5g phone and their gigabit internet coming in five years ISPs will lower the cost of their gigabit. Also Google Fiber will push prices down. In five years HDR will be available on streaming and bluray again will be just another format. Some will try and sell you on physical disc because they are more profitable. But streaming is more convenient and cheaper and that is what matters most to the average consumer. That is why digital commands over 70% of the entertainment market.

Once pop culture attaches itself to an idea it done. People say Netflix and chill not bluray and chill.

[miyamoto]

Another site desperate for clicks.

[OB1Biker]

Haha I don't know about being 'desperate' but you can expect more and more flak on PSVR as it gets closer to release. That's the way gaming news work since negativity is more or less their bread and butter.

[joeorc]

@Cupid_Viper_3 + 10h ago Bubble vote added
"Seeking them "clicks" HARD, I see. Just spewing written diarrhea everywhere eh? Haha, carry on!

Reminds me of the days when BluRay was getting dragged through the mud. Remember how Sony fans were being laughed at for supporting BluRay when the entire entertainment industry was already shifting towards the technology similar to how the entire industry is now once again doing for VR? "

[To the author, stay bitter my friend...]

Thinks of the TV add stay thirsty my friends.. Lmao

And exactly what you said. Hell even microsoft has Blu-Ray optical drive in the Xbox one..but many said well Blu-Ray was not really needed back than..lol, its once again the "well VR is not really needed, or Sony's VR is a pretender to VR..its not real good for the Price point..LMAO

Let's recount, WiiMote with its WiiMotion Plus+ good game experience with the setup, but the market and Nintendo does not really support it.

Kinect once again great camera but again many gamers lambasted the technology and pretty much Microsoft real only fault with it was trying to use kinect without a physical controller and just trying to go at it with just the camera alone.

Sony playststion move had over 300+ games that worked with Playstation Move and maybe not built from the ground up , but they worked really good, and here we are today, when many keep saying that Sony never really supported the PlayStation Move..well explain now that out of all the big three that Sony unlike the other two is putting support for playstation Move to go hand in hand with the Playstation VR. The reason is simple while the media and many gamers laughed and pointed and ran a Fun online campaign against motion controls , Sony made a VR Eco system that freaking works for gaming!

Vive
OculusRift

Both use a external camera and motion control wand controller's and there is gamers that want to try to sit there and say that Sony is the pretender? Ironic thing is while some talk and run their mouth about some VR war going on right now , Sony is again continued development into VR when they started on this road to VR back in 2000, what I mean by that.

Simple back in 2000 Sony had medieval chamber showing off motion controls with a game console at the time the playstation 2 in how they would work, other companies see this from SIGGRAPH and in 2001 more companies licence such technology and media and gamers like to rewrite history about how Sony just got out its xerox copy machine..than fast forward 2004 again Sony shows off time of flight 3D camera sensor working with a console the playstation 2 at SIGGRAPH 2004, other companies see such licence, the technology than media and gamers again try to rewrite history about how Sony dies not innovate just xerox copy..

Ironic thing is now

Vive
OculusRift both use motion control wands to enable better interaction inside a VR world , but yet its Don't you see that's its the playstatiin VR & Sony thst is the pretender!

Lmao.

Its very clear while many are talking Sony is showing and doing and moving forward in the console space with multiple ways to play games.

Just like Nintendo and Microsoft both are Also, But to try to imply or claim Sony's Playstation VR is a "pretender's" VR ..lmao

[joeorc]

@dcbronco

"Bluray was expected to beat DVD and eliminate it more quickly than DVD killed VHS."

Blu-Ray was never meant to kill or eliminates DVD, you have fallen into the trap of what many think its for not what its really for.

Blu-ray was designed to be added to the DVD standards Specified specification's as a standard HD media & storage format for HD content, it was not meant to eliminate DVD it was designed to include Standard DVD in its optical reading ability of disc content for the foreseeable future because the DVD medium standards were at the time still SD. We did not fully switch over to HD TV broad casts till much later. And today if you notice Blu-Ray disc players play DVD discs not because blu-ray could not get rid of DVD or anything like that, no its because despite what many think DVD , and Blu-Ray are still optical disc storage formats that store not just movies but Data. The facts is its solid state non volatile medium to store data on its needed because memory like flash or magnet storage mediums degrade over time far more easily than a solid disc.

That why Blu-ray is even a holographic disc recording format also to boot..the disc based recording methods are here to stay for a long time and DVD is just one of them , its designed to be added on top of the DVD standards board as a format for HD recording..HDDVD was its direct competition. Streaming and digital downloads have to be stored somehow someway..the data stored off the internet Is not just stored only on server hard drives. Some such data are so critical that they must store it in non volatile means.

This idea that such and such digital downloads replacing disc based means completely is pure pardon my French laughable.

Certain companies want that no doubt, but its not happening by any means soon in the "near future" lol

That's been said for over 20 years now, and here we are disc's are still here and will continue for the foreseeable future due to less volatility of the data stored of them vs' magnetic or solid state memory storage.

[TwoForce]

Yeah, that's just sad for them to be honest.

[dcbronco]

JoeOrc

Bluray was absolutely expected to eventually replace DVD. Sony predicted it would outsell DVD within three years. Just Google bluray disc to outsell DVD and watch the goalpost move. And they are still moving. With every technological advance they hope for another chance. It will never happen. The real question is when will digital eliminate both disc.

Gamers on N4G shouted they wouldn't buy digital. Many do now though. And it will increase year on year until disc will be vinyl. And for the same reasons. Convenience and price. Digital prices will come down once the infrastructure is in place and it is already more convenient. People on gaming sites need to realize they are a vocal minority with a really vocal minority within it. Unfortunately that vocal minority seems to use gaming sites for all of their information instead of as supplemental and miss the big picture(not saying you). But if you look at the number of people who disagreed with my post but compared my post to industry information you could only agree with what I said. And because I read the business side and consumer side of issues like this it made it possible for me to better predict what would happen with things like bluray. Before it even launched outside of Japan I predicted a niche product that would never outsell DVD. And I predicted streaming would overtake both. Despite all of the analysts and corporate bravado and their agendas I just looked at the big picture with no bias. And I looked beyond personal preferences which is the real key. I paid $600 for my first DVD player because I saw it as the future of video in 1997. Look up old Cnet articles on bluray and I was predicting the outcome back in 2004 when David Carnoy was shilling for Sony. I knew the public and industry didn't care about HD back then. That was the point of my comments.

As far as storage goes there will always be physical storage, but it won't be bluray. There are to many advancements in storage that move well past bluray. From holographic to DNA. But again, the consumer won't look to disc. They'll look to the cloud. The cloud last forever as long as someone is paying. A more qualified person guarantees your data's safety. Its available anywhere you go. With the general public convenience always wins. Business still uses tapes sometimes. Somewhere. Tv stations still used beta deep into the mid 2000's. Digital will be the dominant "format" though overall.

[Loktai]

Lol imagine pacing your living room, bumping into shit, stepping on a baby's arm, wearing your carpet down and destroying the cartilage in your knees and getting bliaters from pivoting and turning around every 3-5 steps for hours... imagine that. SO NEXT GEN. Screw the author if he thinks people want to treadmill for hours

[AgentSmithPS4]

Eventually I plan on using something like a treadmill for VR, but only long enough to exercise in a beautiful artificial environment. Thankfully I have no babies to step on, but thanks for the visual. The 'author' is a fool for calling it a pretender.

[remixx116]

Lol homie you'd ruin your whole life in like 3 hours without even knowing it.

You just take the headset off and your in handcuffs, your wife's got the divorce papers, ya babies in the ER, ya t.v. is broken in half and ya got ya gold fish pregnant.

Damn.....pre-order cancelled

[rainslacker]

I'm sure my little dog would love to follow me around the whole time I'm doing that.

To keep him from getting stepped on...since he likes to be under one's foot when going anywhere in the house, I'd have to put him in another room, in which case I'd have to listen to him crying the whole time or doing this thing where he flings himself against the door over and over again...usually with an amusing whelp of pain to follow.

There is that circular stand thing you see in a lot of these VR things for TV trying to look hip and cool, which is supposed to allow for movement. But you wouldn't be crouching behind cover, or diving around like you would in a game.

I'm curious if people realize just how much energy and exertion it would take to move around so much in real life compared to how it's done in a game. I couldn't imagine doing something like RIGS where you are constantly moving. I liken to it when I played Hockey, and the constant exertion is tiring after about 5-10 minutes, and that's when I was actually in shape to do such things. I'm just imagining what I'd be saying in the emergency room after the 3rd or 4th time there after playing MGSV in VR and having to dive to the ground when a smiper or gunship can spot me.

In any case, do any of the VR solutions offer this level of immersion where it translates your entire body movement into the game? Heck, Even Kinect didn't do that, and what you could do with it most people found boring or annoying for extended periods of time.

@Agent

Some company would do quite well to have some sort of exercise program for VR....particularly if it could use standard exercise equipment like a bike or treadmill. Maybe integrate in some activity type stuff like rock climbing, which while not as tactile to the user, at least gets them moving. Heck, WiiFit did gangbusters, and it was just a plastic step.

@remixx

lol @ goldfish getting pregnant. Hoping for that VR porn are we?:-P

[Zeref]

HTC Vive is the best VR headset right now. It might beat it in sales but Kinect1 also sold millions. And we all know how that turned out.

Sales does not equal Quality

[jrshankill]

It's absolutely hilarious seeing the PS4 audience's arguments regarding VR.

"Uugh PS4'S will sell more.. Uugh author has no clue"

With Sony's record of peripheral support, I'll be staying well clear of this. Get it in the bargain bucket in a few years time for £50.

[joeorc]

@jrshankill + 2h ago
It's absolutely hilarious seeing the PS4 audience's arguments regarding VR.

"Uugh PS4'S will sell more.. Uugh author has no clue"

[With Sony's record of peripheral support, I'll be staying well clear of this. Get it in the bargain bucket in a few years time for £50.]

Lmao, you know what's ironic about track records, you can always look at all the track records of all companies.

Let's see..

Many call into Question about Sony's track record about

[With Sony's record of peripheral support]

Let's go there, because you were so kind to bring it up. Playstation move had over 300+ games that worked with that motion control setup..how about the Wiimote & Kinect are they really being used for new releases of games today?

Sony is releasing a VR headset with the PlayStation move to make use in new released game's can use the PlayStation Move. Eyetoy. Progressed to another Playstation camera, and now to a 3D depth sense camera for again PlayStation VR..while Nintendo and Microsoft building on to a VR Eco system with the good motion control setups they had? No!

PSPGo. PSVita...still has software support for what many calk "flop" devices...

Its clear the myth of "track record" being poor is continued to be put on media and gamers forums is never going to change like Playstation has no game'ez meme, but please continue.

[trooper_]

Who are you to tell people how to spend their money?

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

This "writer" acts like he's never played video games before.
Some of his complaints:

"PSVR isn't as good as high end vr."
Of course it isn't. PSVR is connected to a PS4 not a $1200 PC.

"The biggest setback is that PlayStation VR relies on controllers and buttons for movement."

and

"Crouching requires buttons"
This is the way it works with ALL console video games. Duh?

Instead of making "Captain Obvious" quality statements the writer should have focused on the things that consumers are curious about like:

How is the image quality?

Were the controls accurate?

How about the motion tracking, did it work? Were there any problems?

How did the headset feel on your head?

Instead, the writer decided to focus on all kinds of stupid. If that was his plan all along, he did one helluva job.

[ArchangelMike]

The biggest flaw is that the writer fails to make a distinction between the games that he played on both VR platforms.

Did he play the same game on Vive and Occuclus that he did on PSVR? For example, is the experience of playing Eve:Valkyie of Occuclus a noticably and significantly superour experience than playing Eve:Valkyrie on PSVR?

Those who have tried the same games on the different systems have all said that the dfferences are minor, and not significanty major. This write has played two completely different games, with different control schemes, on two different VR platforms and he thinks that it is a basis for a fair comparison between the two.

Video game journalism these days... smh

[Death]

We've see a couple hands on where the author states the Move controllers are not as precise as Vive and Rift controllers. The author does have a point about crouching though. What is more immersive, crouching and having your VR world crouch with you or having to press a button to crouch? On regular games the button works just fine, in VR it not only pulls you from the immersion, there's a chance it will get you sick when your eyes see you move and your body doesn't feel it. I think to combat this we will see more games on rails with PSVR.

[B1uBurneR]

You can't reason with most of these guys. I'm going for the Vive options. If MS doesn't announce any Oculus Rift VR With kinect tracking option.... Dream mode off.

[remixx116]

Sooooo....what about those who'd rather just sit down......

Or those who can't walk or stand, I'm sorry but the crouch argument is kinda meh.

If it's optional to use full body motion tracking or regular controls then that's great....otherwise MEH!!!!!

[OB1Biker]

If VR meant I have to crouch and do all sort of exercises instead of just sitting comfortably it wouldn't be for me. No way haha

[TheCommentator]

Remix, what about those with motion sickness, or those who don't wan't to be closed off from their environment, or have to wear a pair of goggles to play games? I thought VR was about total immersion, not as much immersion as you would like personally. If that's the case I'll take my VR in 2D on a television screen, where I can still socialize with my family and not feek sick when I play games.

From the standpoint of success as a device, VR on a PC supports business related functions on top of entertainment which means a larger target audience for the peripheral to succeed, even if entertainment on VR fails. If the entertainment part of PSVR fails to take off, like 3D gaming on 3D tv's, or Kinect, or Move, etc., then the entire device is doomed to be a failure as well.

[rainslacker]

@Crouching requires buttons

Technically it wouldn't have to. The software should be able to determine if one is crouching based on the lights on the headset and their height in relation to the calibration field. I made a demo using this technique myself for OR, although it didn't rely on lights.

There will probably even be some games which do this.

The reason it's not likely to be seen that often though is that moving around so much while playing a game is exhausting. Think pretty much every motion control game to date.

Truth is, most of the stuff done within a game can't be done for extended periods of time, even if it stays within the realm of reality...and it certainly can't be done by the majority of the game players out there for any period of time. Just think how much running, crouching, diving, jumping, stretching around to look over/around cover there is in a game. Then for anyone that's ever used a gun before, consider just how tiring it would be to hold a gun constantly at the ready, not to mention having to aim it quickly over and over again.

In my aforementioned demo with OR, I can say that testing the program was really tiring, and while it will likely be made available, I can't see it being used that much for an actual game.

[Free_Fro]

We need more guys like this who'll tell us things as they are, rather than jumping in a bandwagon.

He said, PSVR is closer to Samsung's Gear VR than it is to Oculus/Vive.

Whatever you do, don't demo the Oculus/Vive 'cause you won't appreciate PSVR afterwards. It seems those two are in a league of their own.

Basically, PSVR is too expensive for what's being offered.

He goes as far as saying, not to settle for PSVR if you can't afford Oculus/Vive..

It's a no brainer, the best true VR experience will be in the PC space.

-
xoxo

[glassgannon909]

does the fact that neither you nor the author give anything to support your frankly stupid opinions have anything to do with the fact that your comment history is filled with anti psvr and pro pc bias?
do you even try to hide how big of a fanboy you are? because your argument would be a tad bit more convincing if your statements were anything more than hollow.

"He said, PSVR is closer to Samsung's Gear VR than it is to Oculus/Vive."
And i say an eraser is similar to a motorcycle.but without describing how or why, my point is as moot as it can be.

"Whatever you do, don't demo the Oculus/Vive 'cause you won't appreciate PSVR afterwards. It seems those two are in a league of their own."
which is how exactly, again? not to mention people appreciate psvr because its cheap, can run all your regular ps4 content and is not a hassle to get setup.so i can just as easily say about not appreciating oculus vive since they rob me of $2000 bucks when i can get the same in $750 and i have to go through setting up a pc and being restricted to digital only content.

"Basically, PSVR is too expensive for what's being offered."
WOW! and you know that how? what proper vr device has a lower running cost that you think is priced fairly?

"He goes as far as saying, not to settle for PSVR if you can't afford Oculus/Vive..
It's a no brainer, the best true VR experience will be in the PC space. "

because i cant play a game where i have to walk in real life to walk in a game? yes thats totally worth either missing out on vr or shelling out the extra 1000 bucks

If history has proved anything, in core gaming , controllers will NEVER be replaced, and for good reason. Go figure.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

* * * * * "does the fact that neither you nor the author give anything to support your frankly stupid opinions have anything to do with the fact that your comment history is filled with anti psvr and pro pc bias?
do you even try to hide how big of a fanboy you are? because your argument would be a tad bit more convincing if your statements were anything more than hollow." * * * * *

This 1000%. People don't realize how much of impact what their past comments has on their current post. Do you actually believe what you are posting or are you just trying to get people riled up?

The thing is though, I don't think he's actually interested in backing anything up or else he would have by now.

He made the comment knowing it will ruffle some feathers and get people riled up. Mission accomplished. You won't see him in this thread again.

[jrshankill]

How is Free-fo's opinion stupid? It's perfectly legitimate. From the specs we know, PS4'S VR is incredibly more on comparison to the Gear VR than oculus. It's in black and white.

[DashArrivals]

DUDE. Hundreds of people that have played heaps of PS VR have said nothing but great things about it. ALL CREDIBLE SOURCES.

Don't you think it's VERY STRANGE. That when PS VR price is announced and PS VR is all over the news, that these types of articles are suddenly coming out.

"Telling it like it is"??? Use your brain FAN BOY. Use your brain.
There will be more articles like that. The authors do not believe these things, but they want CLICKS. Read between the lines.

[remixx116]

Yeah your mad right, it's mad crazy. We've been hearing about people demoing psvr for months and months and how much people like it.....mostly positive statements.

Now all of a sudden the price gets announced and we find out its cheaper than expected then we start getting articles like these.

Desperaton at its finest.

@fro was probably sittin in his little hovel waiting to pounce on one of these articles.....no surprise he's hit every single one of them.

[rainslacker]

It is quite possible some of the authors believe this. If they have bias, they can use that bias to form their opinions. If this particular author was the type that thinks that one is just better, he may find any reason to hate on a rival which isn't up to par. Doesn't really matter if some of the reasons he had for PSVR being a pretender are actually going to be the same on his preferred hardware choice.

I think if one is going into PSVR expecting it to be as good on the quality side as OR or VIVE, then they are going to be disappointed. But if they take it for what it is, and try to see what it can do instead of what it can't do in relation to the competition, then it helps make a more sound opinion, and articles like these tend to follow the track of spend much more because it's worth it while disregarding the fact that to many people the difference in price isn't exactly marginal, but for some rather substantial and may not actually be worth it for a new, still rather new consumer technology.

[Why o why]

How bitter can you possibly get

Its funny seeing all the meltdowns vr is causing.

What the author seems to want isn't quite possibly in the average home and that's just the start. Arh well.

[DigitalRaptor]

We need less opportunistic cherry pickers.

If you want to go off one subjective example, then why not check out this guy (game developer) who played Battlezone and has come to the conclusion that PSVR is not as good as Vive, but "leaps" Oculus, and did so and hand-on experiences, and no agenda: https://twitter.com/warrenb...

Now... who should we believe?
You and this journalist?

Or the dude I posted a link to as well as many who think PSVR is far, far past the quality of Gear VR (goes without saying), and closer to Oculus Rift experience than you'd like to admit. Of course we're not believing you, Agenda Man.
--------

"Basically, PSVR is too expensive for what's being offered."

Good lord... that baseless, agenda-driven statement is too much for me.

[Death]

I think we should believe the VP of Playstation,

"If you just talk about the high-end quality, yes, I would admit that Oculus may have better VR," says Ito. "However, it requires a very expensive and very fast PC." http://www.polygon.com/2016...

As for Warren, I checked out his site. I'm not sure I would call him a developer. From the looks of it his specialty is in website design and art. I think a dev working on VR would be an opinion worth listening to which is what you are kind of implying but isn't the case.

Sony claims the quality of PSVR is lower than Rift and Vive. I don't think that is unreasonable given the difference in cost to power them. Why are you trying to set unrealistic expectations that Sony themselves have already said aren't true?

[DigitalRaptor]

Jesus, Death. Where did I state that PSVR was better than Oculus (definitively better)? I didn't.

I posted an equally relevant opinion from somebody else who happened to think the opposite of the person that Free_Fro opportunistically and disingenuously piggybacked an opinion from, to try and convince people that PSVR is much closer to Gear VR in quality than Oculus, and that Sony are ripping people off because he believe someone who said PSVR is barely close to Oculus, which is frankly absurd.

I wasn't aware of the technicalities of his developer status, but thanks for looking into that - didn't prove anything against what I said, but thanks. I believe the VP of PlayStation when he says that Oculus is better, because in many areas it is, and is running on an open platform with many, many possibilities in its favour. So trying to act like a smart-ass and failing to actually read my comment and understand the context of my response fails only yourself.

What unrealistic expectations did I set? Multiple sources have confirmed that Morpheus prototype version was better than DK1, and in some ways better than DK2. In other words, better than expected and punching above it weight. Consumer versions: the PSVR still uses OLED-RGB which outputs a higher sub-pixel density than the Oculus does, so less of the screen-door effect on the lowly console VR. It also uses reprojection to prevent frame rate skips and keeps a high and consistent frame rate. This is a standard being enforced across all games on the console. PSVR is punching above its weight, and I don't think I am setting unrealistic expectations when saying that PSVR is closer to Oculus in quality in current demoed state than people seem to believe. I'm not bothered if you tell me that Oculus is better, because it has the right to be. Nowhere have I ever stated that PSVR exceeds the overall quality of the Rift. We will have to wait and see what individual experiences are and how they compare.

[jb227]

Do we need more guys "telling things as they are" or do we need more guys to support your hypothetical opinion? Have you tried all VR solutions personally to make assumptions about the quality of PSVR relative to Oculus?

If you are saying that the "true VR experience" is in the PC space, you are essentially negating the market for console gaming as an entire whole. PC gaming power & peripherals have always been superior than consoles, but consoles offer a more focused & pointed experience.

Beyond all of this, what happens when games like Robinson The Journey or Star Wars Battlefront VR or Golem or potentially Dreams take off in the VR realm & are considered the best games available for the technology? You can't play any of those games on Oculus or Vive. If you value power & wide range of utility in VR, then you'd pick PC, but if you are considering VR as a gaming peripheral then you'd be crazy not to go w/ PSVR. Sony simply has more software potential than any of its competitors, if for no other reason than their multitude of exclusive devs & long term partnerships.

[Death]

I agree with you jb. I think everyone should keep their expectations in check. Playstation fans have already decided PSVR is the winner in the VR space and claimed total domination in both sales and quality. That's pretty impressive given the fact PSVR will hit shelves 6 months later and with lower specs in both the VR unit and processing power to push it.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Death

Disingenuous response to come at PlayStation and its fans.

1) Sales - there is a fair amount to back up where and how you could see this happen, and it's not just PlayStation fans expressing those thoughts, but general coverage journalists and analysts too, but it seems you would rather anticipate PCVR actually being more popular and make a larger impact with the mainstream - and based on what?

2) Quality - Who is saying that PSVR is definitively better? Would be useful to provide examples from a decent number of people who are not clinically insane. It's never going to be as simple as that, ever. There are aspects of PC gaming that destroy console gaming and areas of console gaming that PC gamers are missing out on. Naturally, that would apply to VR as well.

You still haven't bothered to address Free_Fro on his ludicrous belief that PSVR is much closer in quality to Gear VR than Oculus, and implying that Sony is ripping people off because of that. Instead you want to skip over the context and focus on the people responding to him to call them out, and not actually calling him out on his BS. Oh..... and I wonder why.

[Why o why]

'You still haven't bothered to address Free_Fro on his ludicrous belief that PSVR is much closer in quality to Gear VR than Oculus'

C'mon, DR, you can't be that gullible to believe dude would air out someone on the 'same team' as them

The anti's always stick together. Turning a blind eye to the ridiculous yet get all deep on sane comments and opinions just because they conflict with their narrative. Don't waste your time.

[joeorc]

@Free_Fro + 11h ago
We need more guys like this who'll tell us things as they are, rather than jumping in a bandwagon.

"He said, PSVR is closer to Samsung's Gear VR than it is to Oculus/Vive."

Yeah, that is telling the truth and not jumping on the bandwagon at all/ rolls eyes..

Him saying that shows just how wrong he is and for you agreeing with him over it..if you tried both you would know that's not any where near being true at all in his statement, because I have tried both and I can tell you hes talking out his pardon my French his rear end and he can keep talking if he wants , because I know for a fact what's true and what is not about the claim he is making and I can tell you he is spewing and blowing things out his colon. Lol about playstation VR

[RIP_Cell]

yep psvr is not going to be as good as oculus/vive but it's cheaper

[joeorc]

@RIP_Cell + 10m ago
"yep psvr is not going to be as good as oculus/vive but it's cheaper"

Which is true, but his claim that PSVR is closer to gearVR and not vive or OculusRift is in fact not only misleading, but is factually incorrect. The gap between the GearVR and playstation VR is big..now not to say GearVR is not good VR because it is, heck the resolution on games is pretty good for mobile VR and in HD they will get better in release of more HD games for gear VR. VR is just now starting in the market with now many development studios and publishers jumping on board for the 1st time. So its going to take a while before development finally sets in. But as for his take about it being closer to GearVR over near to OculusRift & Vive

Well the first question is how is that persistence placement Presence's working in GearVR you..?

Lmao because GearVr does not have that, while vive, OculusRift and Playstation VR does, and its a big one..if you do not have it which GearVR does not have , than its not even close to the playstation VR let alone close to Vive or OculusRift.

[rocketpanda]

VR on any platform hasn't been proven yet. It is still early days on what can be done with VR. If the titles are good enough then it will sell and push VR forward. Rather than hate and be a prick because console games don't need or want to spend $1200 or more to get the VR experience, rather be happy that there are options out there to suit different gamers and budgets.

[Clunkyd]

@Free

It really seems that PC fanboys just dont like PS VR getting more attention than the competition. So they knock it despite the fact that pretty much everyone else is enjoying it.
Just saying it how it is.

[DopeTech]

We have some SONY haters on the loose!!

[DashArrivals]

Is anyone really surprised that these articles are starting to pop up when PS VR is at the front of all the news topics?

I've followed PS VR for a very long time. Hundreds of credible sources has played and previewed VR and they all have nothing but great and positive things to say about it. Now all of a sudden...

I've never seen click-bait stick out more than in these pathetic examples.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

These PC gamers are just nervous about the impact PS VR could make.

[Loktai]

They've been circle jerking occulus so long, even after they bailed out and sold it to Facebook they refuse to believe anything comparable can exist especially at a lower price point chiefly because they have invested so much thought and anticipation in the occulus. When you spend like 1000-1500 for a machine and intend to spend the money on an occulus, you must, MUST convince yourself it is worth it which includes telling yourself there is no other alternative.

Half the PC gamers out there still think the console version of a game like fallout or Witcher 3 is a different game than on PC, and is missing some kind of mechanic or content or must be dulled down from a game play standpoint even when it's mostly a slight visual difference and lack of nudity mods that separates them, so it's no shock to see them thinking the same of PSVR.

I'll say this... expect to see a lot more PSVR hardware out in the wild in the hands of consumers and plenty of developers innovating ways to make better and better experiences on it. All the PC guys will need those types of games ported to the occulus for once they get tired of pacing the room.

[AgentSmithPS4]

Yep they're in pain and they're taking it out on others instead of improving their own weaknesses. They hype themselves into a frenzy then facebook comes along which is bad enough but then this ultra rich company charges too much for a headset which is arguably only slightly better than PSVR. It's nice that they'll have robust VR fantasy worlds to live in since they'll become even more bitter when they see how much fun the millions of PSVR users are having.

[nitus10]

Last I looked all the VR headsets (exception smartphones) were actually tethered to the Graphics producer which is basically the PC or the PS4.

It would be really dangerous to allow anyone with a VR headset to physically move their whole body around any room or area unless the environment is set-up to do so. Of course this does not mean the player can't move their arms (ie. Move and/or DS4) or their head (ie. VR headset) since that's what a VR device is designed for.

What will be interesting is when VR devices come out that are fully battery powered and wireless and even then moving your whole body can be really dangerous without precautions.

[Kribwalker]

Here's a suggestion to everyone hating on this guy for this article.

Maybe he just didn't like it. He does have an opinion. Maybe he has spent a lot of time with oculus or the vive and likes them better. Maybe he was expecting the same experience he got from those but didn't.

An opinion different from yours doesn't mean they are just trying or clicks

[Goldby]

its one thing to dislike or not enjoy an experience, its another to tell your audience to not even bother trying the HMD.

i can dislike all the sports games i want, but i wont actively tell people to stay away from them.

[joeorc]

@Kribwalker + 6h ago
"Here's a suggestion to everyone hating on this guy for this article.

Maybe he just didn't like it. He does have an opinion. Maybe he has spent a lot of time with oculus or the vive and likes them better. Maybe he was expecting the same experience he got from those but didn't.

An opinion different from yours doesn't mean they are just trying or clicks"

Again its one thing to have an opinion about something, and no one stated he could not have an opinion. But when he is saying blatant misleading information about a product in order to gather hits for his site..that's the problem..he is not being truthful and he is being called out on it

[nitus10]

If you read what the writer said it is very biased and if you take a look at his other articles he predominately extols the virtues of PC gaming so it's not really surprising he puts down the PSVR in favour of the PC variants of VR.

He is definitely entitled to his opinion however in my opinion his opinion is biased.

[Kribwalker]

The opinion of most of the people on this website are quite biased as well. If you see, any article praising the PSVR is showered with praise, and any article criticizing it are shamed.

[trooper_]

You can have an opinion but don't spread inaccurate/ludicrous statements or you will get called out for it.

[uth11]

Most people are just not going to drop $1600 on VR headset and a PC capable of running it. If they are curious about VR. $800 for PS VR is even steep if they have no hardware, but it's more attractive than $1600.

This reminds me of the early days of consoles. People could say not to buy an Atari VCS because the Intellivision had much better graphics (and it did)

But the Atari dominated that generation because it had a much better price point, and it had the games people wanted.

And even with its crap graphics, people loved the VCS, why? It was better than what they had before which was not much.

Same with PS VR, it may not be the best VR on the market, but it's better than what we have now.

[rainslacker]

The one that captures the market is going to be the one with the best marketing this holiday(and maybe next) and show off some games that will actually excite people to want to play. Well known games, that people recognize, and not just random mostly indie projects(although it's good to have those too). If GT sport comes out supporting PSVR this holiday, it's a shoe-in for adoption just due to GT popularity and the natural way in which it can improve a racing game.

Sony itself will probably have the most in your face marketing, and personally Facebook has a lot of reach(as was pointed out to me in another article), but I don't think Facebook is at the point where they are going to market the OR to the mainstream consumer as the vast majority of their users do not have capable PCs nor do they have the software lineup to really make it worth it for the mainstream yet(lack of well known IP's not outright numbers), and for all the three major contenders right now, Sony has the most attractive price with a usergroup that is already keen on game experiences because they've actually brought a device to play games, not chat with friends.

It's a "new" exciting technology which is going to get a lot of attention this holiday, and IMO, Sony is the one best poised to actually get people to want to adopt the technology as the competition is pricey, has high system requirements, and doesn't have that "must have" game experience that Sony is likely to go heavy on with their own marketing.

[Wallstreet37]

Lol the hate and salt is real. First some fanboys were mad because all previews were positive so they switched to saying "oh it'll cost an arm and a leg, no way under 500". Now that a bundle is 499 and standalone sku is 399 their scurrying to write articles to minimize it lol

Pathetic ppl tht have ate crow monthly since it was announced. Psvr is the real deal!!! Why you mad?

[DigitalRaptor]

That is almost literally the order it has played out.

1) Pre-release skepticism based on minimal knowledge.
2) Positive previews in abundance, so they switch to the price argument.
3) Price is acceptable for console market, so now they talk about the PC/console hardware gap.
4) Then PSVR impresses and due to its clever design, supported reprojection technique for guaranteed high and consistent frame rate, and OLED-RGB screen providing a rather large increase in sub-pixel density over its Oculus Rift counterpart, leading to a reduced screen door effect. It is no slouch and actually more impressive in a number of areas. So it's actually closer to Oculus than many realise or want to accept. It's also more ergonomically designed, thus the most comfortable VR headset on the market - a truly important aspect of a headset is how it feels to wear.

Once they realise that, what will the next article be after this one? I'm as excited to see what any and all VR gaming solutions have going for them as the next enthusiast, but underestimating a competitor that is known for achieving incredible looking well-optimised games on inferior hardware that impress even the biggest of PC elitists, and also a company that has a rich history in manufacturing headset technology, is not wise at all.

[Wallstreet37]

Yeah Digital i totally agree.

[iNathan]

what a stupod guy, would love to smash his face for writting such shitty articles.

[Maxor]

Awwww, the fanboy is angry.

[BossBattle]

*stupid

[Eiyuuou]

Not agreeing is one thing, but do try to remain civilised. Ok?

[iceman06]

Why So Serious!?!?

[Ck1x]

I'm sure you are only tough behind the keyboard buddy...

[Black0ut]

Wow! That's a new kind of keyboard warrior rage. Seriously, that's really immature dude.

I don't agree with what the author is saying but I don't go round saying he should be beat the **** up.

[AgentSmithPS4]

PSVR will be the king of sales. Other than the jealous xbots I think there's a big case of "misery loves company" coming from some PC users. They spent a lot more money and are upset that the PSVR's quality is so close to theirs, and it's more comfortable and easier to use too. If you're so bitter about YOUR choices then just return it, or go play games and be happy. Their artificially inflated elitist egos are going to take an even bigger hit soon enough, so sit back and enjoy the show.

[DigitalRaptor]

Ridiculous to see PC gamers trying to snub what Sony has achieved with PSVR and inferior hardware. It's all about optimisation and getting people on board with the right experience. Keep going fellas. PS4 momentum has guaranteed the success of this format. PSVR already a #1 bestseller.

I'm not against the ideals of PC elitists, and am looking forward to getting Vive once I'm able to afford an upgrade, but PSVR owned GDC in terms of providing a VR solution for the mainstream, which is so, so important for the medium's future viability. I feel that PC VR solutions risk obscuring VR to the people with the most money. It's a good thing that Sony has a deep understanding of and a history in consumer headsets and also in the mainstream gaming and entertainment sectors. Combining their experience in both is the best chance VR has in this industry. Do PC gamers need to be that bitter about that?

[nitus10]

The problem with the PCVR solutions is you do need a fairly powerful PC to run them. If you have a PC that at least meets the minimum specification required to run PCVR then that is fine but if not then you have no choice but to upgrade or repurchase.

My desktop hardware wise easily meets the PCVR requirements however I have no intention of running a Microsoft operating system on my PC so I guess that leaves me the option of getting the PSVR to augment my PS4.

[BrettAwesome]

PSVR is gonna rock. Ima wear that sh#t to WORK. Never take 'em off, EVER!

[Ck1x]

I'm guessing you must work from home then.

[Aenea]

Ha! You can now work from home but still have the idea and visuals to be right there in your cubicle!

[--bienio--]

Until GDC 2016 I considered VR to be “the Big Three” - Sony, Oculus and HTC - but now I’d call it “the Big Two."
Future VR is on PC!! Consoles fanboys need understand this!! Pc Master Race!!

[joeorc]

@--bienio-- + 1h ago
"Until GDC 2016 I considered VR to be “the Big Three” - Sony, Oculus and HTC - but now I’d call it “the Big Two."
Future VR is on PC!! Consoles fanboys need understand this!! Pc Master Race!!"

Oh' I'm just sure you did/ rolls eye's

You realize without mobile VR or console VR , PC VR would really have no market to speak of!

The reason being , mobile VR and console VR only help not hinder VR developments. Also is if PC VR is the future of VR, why is the majority of VR games and applications going multiple platform anyway. Gear VR is a certified Oculus device..that will allow to get the majority of The OculusRift Software and play it too.

You know because the future in VR is PC and all. LMAO

[Germany7]

Said the guy that is always begging for consoles games for your only platform.
Pc beggar's race.

[kingPoS]

Each platform should have it's own VR experience.

Mobile
Game console
PC

And with those three, It's official, VR is now more than ever that much closer to becoming mainstream. This is good news. Having only one vr platform become successful would be terrible. That'd akin to having ios but no android.

The VR scene needs more competition, not less.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[neoandrew]

Vive/oculus have PENTILE screens, it means that 3 subpixels are not the same size, two of them are probably 0.5 size and one full, but the res is 2k.

PSVR has 3 subpixels with the same size, but it is 1080.

So it possible, but i'm not sure, that psvr could actually have better perceived screen quality despite diff in screens.

960 x 1080 psvr vs 1080 x 1200 in rest per eye

It is only 240px.

[Wallstreet37]

http://wccftech.com/sony-de...

Its factual tht psvr looks crisper and has less screen door effect than the others. It has true RGB.

On a side note i have also seen it stated tht psvr 3d audio implementation is superior as well but idk if tht is a fact. I know oculys has 3d audio as well.

Point is though tht psvr does indeed have some advantages although weaker speced

[Stwert]

At the risk of not writing an carefully worded response to this article, deserving of being immortalised on the Internet for all to see. I feel my comment is just as follows;

Pish!

Still, it's as good a journalistic piece of writing as this article deserves. ;)

[quent]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^
The definition of click baiting

[TheTwelve]

For the sake of clicks you'll find anybody saying anything, no matter how outlandish.

[kenwonobi]

It's funny because articles know how to write click bait material now. They do it just to it. Even if it's blatantly obvious to anyone Gear Vr and PSVR are not close to each other. One is a hundred dollars phone. The other is 400 headset. I saw the phone and it's cool but it's a smaller less impressive version of PSVR.

[Ck1x]

Well Samsung VR doesn't include the phone, so that cost is on top of the experience as well. I think for anyone that is interested in VR and has actually checked out videos of how accurate the Vive is in action. Or simply how involved you are with that world, really gives you perspective on the differences between all of the VR devices. Just citing sells as the reason PSVR wins does nothing for the actual VR experience...

[DarkSnow]

Anyone knows if the PSVR "Cinematic Mode" will allow us to see usb media player movies or youtube 360º videos besides Netflix?

[Aenea]

It will show you the PS4 menu and all regular content in cinematic mode. If the USB player works with the movie you want to see it will work in cinematic mode. Same goes for Plex and all the other TV apps out there. Also the webbrowser will work like that.

What I'm not sure of is if the youtube 360 degrees videos are supported, I don't think so, it will just show you what you would see on your TV except on a giant screen projected on the VR headset. Maybe Sony or Youtube can add support for this tho, who knows...

[DarkSnow]

Thanks ;)

[WheatBread]

I agree.

[Realms]

Where were these articles before Sony announced it's price? You don't see articles questioning wether the oculus or the vive are to expensive why? Why is PSVR is garnering this kind of negative attention? VR needs all the support it can get but it seems odd that the most affordable entry is being attack. Let me guess those clicks are not just for kicks.

[starchild]

You must not have noticed, but there were tons of articles questioning whether the Rift and Vive are too expensive. Then we also had all the silly doom and gloom articles essentially claiming those devices would lose to PSVR, as if they were directly competing and as if this were a format war, neither of which are true.

I do think this article is off with its claims that PSVR is closer to GearVR. I can't see how that would possibly be true. Both in terms of the features of the PSVR headset and the power of the console itself it's well above the GearVR and closer to the Rift and Vive in the sort of VR experiences it can provide.

[Kallisti]

So basically he wants KinectVR? Pass, I don't play games for a full body workout, and at the price of the headset and hardware needed to play it, I'm sure the PSVR will sell a lot more than the Oculus/Vive at least in the first year anyway.

[ironmonkey]

I wouldnt even go as far calling this guy an auther thats way to much of a complement.

[Goldby]

Coming from an author. Thank you and +bubbles for sanity

[Antnee534]

Who's with me that cinema mode is a big feature for them. I'm so excited for this I will have mine pre ordered Tuesday. Also I would like the psvr eventually to do dual screen so I could play games and use YouTube or something akin to that. I don't think it will ever happy but would be cool

[nitus10]

I fully agree. Having to ability to watch videos and play non VR games is a huge plus since you can consider the PSVR headset a private large screen HDTV as well as a VR display unit.

An interesting feature of PSVR is the ability of the player to interact with a VR game while other people in the room can watch basically what the player is doing and even can control some of the action. It is also possible for others to watch the TV separately while the person with the VR helmet can play a game or watch a different video.

Basically two TV's in the same room where each can be independent of the other or integrated if required.

[Vasto]

Everybody already knows this.

1. Vive
2. Oculus Rift
3. PSVR

[joeorc]

@Vasto + 22m ago
Everybody already knows this.

1. Vive
2. Oculus Rift
3. PSVR

No one i think really is in dispute of the fact that list by rating in power, which PSVR is in 3rd place in power .no doubt. But remember in VR its not just about how much power you have in VR its persistence Presence inside the VR and your Environment that the VR world is not on its effectiveness in keeping the user in a state where they feel their presence is not only active but in effect receptive at the same time while active in that VR environment.

Example : Vive has most likely the best persistence presence inside VR by all three headsets by any means the others are not as good but their persistent Presence's work very well. Sony's demo on stage of a VR suit combined with music of 3D,sound and your user persistant presence while inside the VR is one of the best tried out example of persistence of presence inside a VR environment ever done that was adding a sensor suit to the mix but it showed that the PlayStation VR would be ready for such a level.

Now that was made possible by using a lighted suit and sensors placed on that suit, but again its quite possible to do such with Playstation VR, and Of course Vive and OculusRift also.

GearVR lacks such built in capability because it was not designed to do such, it would have to be altered by quite a bit and to be frank modded on a hardware level pretty much redesigned to do such.

With OculusRift, Vive and playstation VR added sensors to clothes and lighting and with software tweaks you are pretty set to go.

That's why the claim about playstation VR being closer to GearVR is not only wrong, but its no where near in the same ballpark because vive,OculusRift and Playstation VR are really more alike and much closer on a persistance of presence than GearVR is which is zero in it's current form..That persistance of presence inside of VR is really important is if you really want the end user to feel their presence inside a VR world is more a live than without such functioning like a GearVR. Again Gear VR is pretty great VR experience but is by no means anywhere even close to Playstation VR. And people trying to claim that it is I have real doubt's that they have tried both.

To see that

[MachuchalBrotha316]

I would put Gear VR at 1. Hahaha

[DivineAssault]

Im not even going to give this article a click.. Yes PSVR is the cheapest but thats what the common gamer wants.. Everybody isnt rich and there has to be an entry point for some.. I think PSVR will be good for me.. $50 more than i expected but still, i can handle that.. Some people cant! So the king of VR will be like NEO GEO back in the 90s.. Possibly one person you know actually has the disposable income to use on the premium products..

[Zarock]

How come there Is not a single thread yet on this site about playstation 4.5!!?

[Ark_]

I wondered the same yesterday. It's just a rumour yet, but normally these things explode here on N4G.

[Majin-vegeta]

Because it was just a rumor and from an unnkown source and as far as im aware.N4g dont allow that for some.

[acemonkey]

every since the damn price came out and its a decent price all bunch of hate lol

[masterfox]

lol so much bhurtness from the competition against the PSVR XD.

keep on hating this is the reality! for virtual reality :D

1. Playstation VR

2..uh...better said.. forgotten number : Vive and Oculus

seriously $600 and $800 not even adding taxes, plus you need to add a 1000 dlls PC, and I'm being generous with this price for the PC it can easely go above that, also game developers for those things is just miserable you will probably get a bunch of tech demos.

yeah of course Vive and Oculus are the better options..............

https://media.giphy.com/med...

[Deeke]

The whole "$1000 PC" is inflamed pretty hard. You can find sales and deals if you're wise. These companies go off of the MSRP of Nvidia hardware and negate an entire huge facet of sales-finding communities that are built around saving cash.

Yeah, having a VR-ready PC isn't going to be cheap. But you need to spend more than $800 for the total PSVR experience, and you can get Rift+PC deals for like $1100 or so. It's crazy!

[Aenea]

So, the Rift is $600 alone, you telling me I can get a Rift capable PC for $500? Doubtful!

Also, please don't forget that the Rift in EU is €700, add in the shipping costs and import duties and it's almost €800. For the same money I can buy the PSVR AND a PS4...

[SynestheticRoar]

Anyone who has common sence knows it was be #1. PSVR #2. Oculus Rift and #3 Vive.

[starchild]

Maybe for people whose only consideration is price. Otherwise I don't see how that's a fair assessment.

[Deeke]

Why is it so hard to believe that console powered VR might be bad for long-term experiences?

I don't understand this thought process. The article tells you what console VR is--a small step up from mobile VR--and makes it clear that it's not nearly as powerful or prestigious as PC-powered VR.

I haven't tried either one, but I think it's wise to realize what you're getting into when you go PSVR. It's not going to be a definitive VR experience, but it WILL be more accessible. Not much more, considering you need $800+ to experience it, and you can buy a VR-ready PC for about $1100.

[Aenea]

"it makes it clear", no it does not actually. And why would console powered VR be bad for long-term experiences? How do you know?

That is a thought process I DO NOT understand. This article is nonsensical and you're taking it as gospel while there are many articles out there that prove this article is full of crap.

Also, you then mention that "considering you need $800+ to experience it and you can buy a VR ready PC for $1100" That's crazy! The prices you need to compare are either $800 and $1700 or $400 and $600, not one without the headset but just the device you can connect it to (a PC) and the other price both the headset and the console.

[Artemidorus]

Sony did the right thing, it's true the other two vrs will perform better but PSVR is affordable to way more people.

Playstation 4 now has a large fanbase and huge support from gaming companies so it's a win win.

[S2Killinit]

sounds like PSVR is scaring a lot of people.

[cd1]

...So what you're saying is even though the PS4 has far less graphical power than a high end PC (which we already knew) and PSVR is far cheaper than the PC alternatives, the most negative criticism you can come up with is Sony's input method...am I the only one who see's this as a big win for PSVR!

[Aenea]

And even then I doubt the PS Moves are that bad, they were rather precise on the PS3 and the PS4 camera has 2 cameras instead of one to help with depth perception. Also that Dreams game has a video up where someone is doing all sorts of creative stuff with 2 PS Moves and they say "creative types love the Moves more", if they are so inaccurate then that would be weird...

[sullynathan]

Sounds about right but the alternative is to spend close to $2000 on another VR and that sounds outrageous if you ask me

[_LarZen_]

In a pure technical standpoint then of course HTC Vive and Oculus Rift are more contender to "king" then the PSVR.

It should be with the price tag for a total VR experience on PC!

And let's be honest here. VR on PC is for enthusiasts and enthusiasts alone with a high entry fee for both PC hardware and a VR headset.

But just as gaming in general is not defined by high-end enthusiast PC's. So will most likely neither high-end enthusiast VR be.

I haven't tried the 3 big ones (consumer version) in VR. So I cant comment on experience other then trying the Rift DK1 and DK2. But everything coming out from various events is that the PSVR is great. I cant help but feel this is just one more biased attempt to downplay what will most likely be the backbone for the entire VR industry in the first years. That and mobile VR.

[Antnee534]

I wonder is anyone going to lock their doors while the play this lol