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Oculus VR Founder Says $400 PlayStation VR Is "A Totally Fair Price"

Palmer Luckey says the price is "right around what [was] expected."

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DEEBO3000d ago

It's a great price and can do what sony HMV can do plus more for cheap.

Day one.

Death3000d ago

How is $400 cheap when it doesn't have the camera, controller or games that Rift includes at $600? Let's wait for the bundled price for PSVR and unbundled Rift before crowning either the winner on cost. A reasonable person can see the two cost about the same.

The price difference between a PC capable of running Rift and a PS4 is a different story. You can't determine value on platform cost alone though since you have to factor in the uses a PC has that a console doesn't. There is a quality difference between the two as well.

Lore3000d ago

You sound stupid. First of all at least they offer the choice of only buying the unit without the accessories. Second of all it's still cheaper than 500 bucks when you factor those in

Thirdly nobody asked you to "factor in the uses a PC has" to compare the two

Thatguy-3103000d ago (Edited 3000d ago )

But see what you fail to see is that people have those items. Even if you add the cost of the things you mentioned the price will still be lower than the competition. Having the headset as a standalone is beneficial because the people that have the items don't need to invest on a set bundle that includes them for more money. I for one would be pissed if they forced a bundle and didn't give me the option to buy the headset alone. That being said a bundle will come so the more options the better.

Death3000d ago (Edited 3000d ago )

It's still a bundle price vs a base price. How many PC gamers don't have a controller? Same logic, no? You are skipping the games included with Rift also. Add two games and a PS camera to PSVR and it's not much cheaper is it? We should see a camera/game bundle from Sony for $499 and a stripped down Rift without games and controller for about the same price. Right now Oculus is banking on early adopters buying more expensive bundles. How much do you want to bet the $399 PSVR will be sold out before the holidays and only $499 bundles being stocked on store shelves?

@Kwiet,

How much for the camera, controller and two games? Think we are getting closer to $200? PS4 camera and Xbox One controller retail for $60 each. That's $120 and then the cost of the games. Depending on the games, I don't think $200 is as much a stretch as you want to believe.

KwietStorm_BLM3000d ago

Because the camera and controller doesn't equal $200?

SourtreeDing3000d ago

i already own a Camera, all i would need is the Move controller if the game i want needed it... plus not all games require camera or move;)

Aenea3000d ago

I'm in Europe, when I want to buy an Oculus, I pay €700, add in shipping and import duties and it's around €780.

Am sure the Oculus will be available one day in local shops without the extra shipping and import costs but the PSVR will be avail for €400 in local shops straight away. And it's the MSRP, am positive some shops will go slightly lower and/or create some nice bundles...

TrollityTroll3000d ago

Death, sorry, bit confused here.
Not too long ago you were dismissing the impact of XB1 games releasing on PC because apparently not enough people have PC's capable of running them:
http://n4g.com/news/1864805...

Let's take a bit of a quote from there:
It's amazing how you claim no one owns a gaming PC when talking about XB1 losing exclusives and then talk about how everyone owns a gaming PC when talking about PSVR.

Not to mention not even a day ago you were all:
http://n4g.com/news/1877720...
better announce something soon or I'm buying a Rift for my PS4. If PSVR is cheaper though and the experience at $400 is close to the $1500 experience Rift offers, maybe I will just buy a PSVR for my PC since the two work on both platforms.

Now all of a sudden, even though you've not experienced PSVR, Rift is $600 and PSVR at $400 is an issue. Talk about an about-turn

ShottyGibs3000d ago

Well he's right. It isn't an apples to apples comparison if a bundle is being compared to a base config. That's factual.
This price wouldn't be too difficult if we could do a unbiased comparison.

@ Lore

You realise you don't have to attack people for having a different view right?!
What an exciting world we have if we all thought the same!? Try and leave fanboyism emotions out of it.

starchild3000d ago

The price difference isn't as big as some people are making it out to be. It's maybe a $100 to $150 difference, considering the Rift comes with a $50 controller and the motion-tracking camera.

We also shouldn't forget the Rift has superior specs and will definitely offer superior VR experiences when driven by a good gaming PC.

The Rift is also the first one out the gate and we all know that you pay more to be an early adopter.

All of these things make it perfectly understandable that the Rift costs a little more.

mkis0073000d ago

so why are you not adding the extra cost of the pc needed to use the rift? $300 gpu 200$ cpu mobo...os ram the difference in getting into vr is insanely cheaper on psvr. no ill do the maths if you really dont know how much parts cost.

iceman063000d ago

The camera and move controllers are dirt cheap. I've seen move controllers for leas than $20 and the camera is constantly on sale for $30. So, unless retailers pull some price gauging BS, that's about $50 extra. Not to mention that they've states that VR games can be played with a DS4.

Lonnie183000d ago

Lol what about the PC needed for the Rift?

Volkama2999d ago

The Rift comes with an Xbox controller. The motion controllers will be sold seperately at a later date. The only thing a PS4 player needs to buy to match the Rift bundle is the camera, which is not close to $200.

I'm sure there are loads of arguments about the pros and cons of each HMD, but PSVR's price advantage is clear.

notachance2999d ago

chill people, it's just Death doing the usual, nothing to take seriously here..

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stuna13000d ago

I agree! But what we are seeing now are alot of "So called gamers" trying to dismiss the relevancy of the price of PSVR by saying it's somehow incomplete because it's not bundled with a camera, when everyone has 8 months to aquire a $40 camera lol.

I think a salt river is flowing through these articles because 1) Alot of people excited for PSVR called the price Sony announced. Which truthfully wasn't too hard to guess, because Sony actually told everyone from the beginning! "PSVR would priced as a new Console/Platform.

2)People are salty because Sony are once again in the spotlight! For which they should be because they are giving gamers wha they want.

It's really going to be a salt storm once people realize PSVR as actually going to energize the PS4's sales even more. Make no mistake PSVR is going to succeed and in turn it's going to promote even more PS4 sales.

ShottyGibs2999d ago (Edited 2999d ago )

I don't see any salt from anyone to be honest. Why would people be salty about having choice?
Price, quality of the experience and value for money is what interests me. I'm yet to try all 3.
I'll probably pick up a PSVR if it's forward compatible, otherwise probably the rift.

cleft53000d ago

So the PSVR will allow me to play pornographic games? It will allow me to play my PC games on it? It will allow me to access open source content? Until they announce that PSVR is an open platform device, lets hold off on that, it can do what HMV can't stuff.

PSVR looks like a great deal for Sony's playstation closed platform and I am glad to see them being aggressive with this price.

Loktai3000d ago

Just the fact that he is commenting like that alone... shows somethin

Death3000d ago

How much do you think Rift will cost without the Xbox One controller or games? I can't see them taking the camera out anytime soon since both PSVR and Rift require one to use it. Apples to apples it looks like the two devices are $100 apart at best when you price just the HU and camera. We already know a PSVR bundle is coming. A base Rift will most likey come before October.

TrollityTroll3000d ago

Just remember, if you have a PC capable of running Oculus you have a PC capable of running what used to be XB1 exclusives.

So any argument of Oculus impacting PSVR adoption has to be equally applied to XB1 losing exclusives. If there is enough to negatively impact one there is enough to negatively impact the other.
Let's be consistent in our application of arguments here.

donthate3000d ago

Trollity:

I don't think PS VR will get competition from Oculus Rift or HTC Vive, because of the large price discrepancy and the market segmentation.

PS VR's challenge is something completely different. People here might be jumping up and down expecting a higher price, but reality is that PS VR even at it's base cost more than a PS4. The PS4 market (i.e. console market) is very price sensitive. Heck, console sales increase significantly when a $50 price drop happens.

When you have a market like that, it is going to be hard to convince someone to pay more than their initial investment to get essentially an early adopter technology with very limited and questionable content.

Then they are going to look at their smart phone and realize taht Google Cardboard is there and cost $20 because they already have a phone, and that the content is free or $1. Not the same experience perhaps, but enough to tide them over with curiosity.

Bathyj3000d ago

I dont see why they should be. VR needs to grow as a whole. All the players need to to well, and they are all catering to different section of gamers. Occulus should be more concerned with Vive and vise versa since they are on the same platform but really its in everyones best interests for VR to carve a trench in the publics mindshare. There will be people who if even one of the players fail, will declare VR are fad and wont be interested. VR just has to take off this time or they will all suffer and it will be a decade at least before anyone tries it again. It been tried many times before in my lifetime. Its time to $h*t or get off the pot.

AgentSmithPS43000d ago

So is this the reason they're adding/added a dislike button to facebook? ;)

Lamboomington3000d ago

Why ? You do realize they don't compete with PSVR ? Sure, there might be some of that, but for the most part, no.

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ShadowKnight3000d ago (Edited 3000d ago )

He forgot to mention that a lot of PS fans already own the PS4 camera and move controller from last gen. Not to mention you don't need to buy the DS4 controller since it comes with every PS4 console.

Loktai3000d ago

Well still, even without that the cost of entry is so low, considering by then you should be able to find ps4s even cheaper than right now, which is pretty cheap.

Thatguy-3103000d ago

The camera sold like hot cakes right at the beginning of the gen and let's not forget the amount of people that invested in one to stream on Playstation live.

starchild3000d ago

I own a PS4 and don't own the camera. I would have to include the price of the camera into the overall cost. Plus, you get a controller worth $50 to $60 with the Rift. So it's not really an apples to apples comparison. PSVR is definitely not "hundreds of dollars cheaper" as some have claimed.

donthate3000d ago

True, but the price is just to get the consumer's mind share invested into it. Once they are in the store committed to buying, and realize all of this extra's they are still more likely to do it.

PS VR challenge is going to be that PS VR even at it's base cost more than a PS4. The PS4 market (i.e. console market) is very price sensitive. Heck, console sales increase significantly when a $50 price drop happens. How do you convince them to buy this?

In the long term the price might drop be a success, or the trend fizzles and VR turns into a gimmick.

Tsunade2999d ago

Looks like people here do not understand that the move controllers are optional. With PSVR, you have the choice of using the Dualshock 4 or the move controllers. Everyone has Dualshock 4 already! Many others, as me, has the move controllers already but if you don't, they are just optional and you have 7 months to get them if you want them.

On the other hand, the camera which is required, is also cheap right now. I got the camera since the release of the PS4 so I am PSVR ready.

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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

Christopher1d 16h ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack1d 15h ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics23h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Christopher15h ago

If only PC games supported controllers more. Main reason I play primarily on console. So many games have shit support on PC. Playing Dark Envoy now, and it's quite frustrating since I have to switch to keyboard during cut scenes just to make sure advancing conversation doesn't also auto-select a decision. Let alone it's quite rough to select between characters and inventory screens are bad bad bad.

Anywho, similar complaints for both I find. But, I 100% agree that both PC and consoles should support both as best as possible.

crazyCoconuts10h ago

PS may push more kb support in the future to get more PC converts, we'll see.

Flewid6389h ago

As someone with a high end PC, I feel like the ease is on PS5. Too many PC games are a troubleshooting nightmare, which few people have the time for when all you want to do is pop in a game & play it.

Yui_Suzumiya2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I just use an Xbox controller on my laptop for everything 😆 .. I haven't used a keyboard / mouse combo for PC gaming since 1996

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LordoftheCritics14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

I don't think you understand what I mean by the lack of m/kb support on PS.

Over a thousand titles have PS controller support on PC.

Not even 30 titles have m/kb support on PS5.

Once you are done with the single player title, you'll go back to playing your daily shooter/looter/mmo etc which the pc gamer has mastered with their mouse and keyboard.
Why would any pc gamer make the switch?

jznrpg5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

PC is secondary to PlayStation for them. Mouse and keyboard would affect development. Live service will have it but most single player games aren’t going to have it as PC is not the focus

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Fishy Fingers1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan1d ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens521d ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

porkChop12h ago

It just doesn't work that way though. Plenty of the best games ever made were never available on PC. That didn't make PC gamers buy consoles to play them. This kind of strategy has never worked in the past and it won't work now. It's fine for PS to hold their games back and release on PC later, but to think that will boost console sales is wishful thinking. All this will accomplish is some double dipping, which is obviously good for business.

JackBNimble11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

People aren't going to switch from pc to ps5, why would anyone do that for a game?
Most sony exclusives aren't all that to begin with, and pc has the option to upgrade what they want when they want it. Having access to some ps5 games, gamepass and steam.

Thinking this would happen is naive

outsider162421h ago

I mean if there's 10 million pc gamers out there...getting atleast just 1 million from there is probably a good thing..right?

romulus2318h ago

PC players are not a monolith, I don't know why people keep thinking they speak for the entirety of all PC gamers like they all know each other personally. You think out of the millions of PC gamers not one single person will be impatient?Well Sony is willing to bet there will be. Why would they do it now? People's feelings change and new PC gamers come along all the time that may also feel different about waiting, that's why.

Yui_Suzumiya2h ago

Just like how I'm waiting for Alan Wake II to hit Steam 😆

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-Foxtrot1d 14h ago

PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows9021h ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

anast20h ago

"Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer."

Right here

Kakashi Hatake21h ago

PC gamers think tomorrow is promised. Sorry, don't have time for that.

Michiel198919h ago

it's not just about loyalty or sunk cost, pc is an open platform while consoles are closed platforms. If you for example want to mod, you will play on pc, no question about it. Also if you like indie games, steam is a fucking goldmine for that. I've been playing a lot of indie games over the last years and there just seems to be an endless amount of them on steam. Also not having games locked to a certain fps is a prettty big deal for me and I assume a lot of other pc players.

Walalon18h ago

And don't forget steam sales, you can get a ton of games on an awesome price.

badz1499h ago

@Walalon

Sony has been doing sales constantly on the PS Store nowadays.

jznrpg5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

@Walalon Steam sales are basically the same as PS sales. I was going to buy a Steam Deck and I heard about these Steam sales but the games I was interested in were not any cheaper. Indie games were cheap and older AAA were cheap but the same can be said for PS store sales. I didn’t end up getting the Steam Deck as there weren’t any games that I wanted to play that wasn’t already on PS and prices aren’t much different

romulus2318h ago

And how do you know out of the millions of PC gamers that not one single person ever went ahead and bought a PlayStation console for one or more of those games? People keep speaking for the entirety of millions of PC gamers like they know them all personally. Here's one example for you, I'm currently typing on a recently purchased PC that cost me over twenty five hundred dollars and is more than capable of running any game including Sony exclusives that come to PC and yet I still bought a PS5 so apparently I'm not patient or loyal enough to my set up, hope it's not mad at me for not being loyal.

jznrpg5h ago

Some of those people will consider getting a PS5 some wont. I was a PC gamer for a long time and I’m a console only gamer now. Everyone’s different.

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helicoptergirl1d 14h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan1d 14h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

Amplitude15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Astro Bot is the game that just did it for me. I'm gonna have to grab a PS5 again for that.

I did this for Ratchet Rift Apart too but ended up selling the PS5 after getting my plat. Rebought it on PC and other than GoW Ragnarok and Horizon FW (which eventually I could get anyway), I haven't had a reason to downgrade my graphics, controller features, ease of recording, and increase my game costs and monthly subscriptions throughout this entire generation.

I play on a TV with a controller but this has been the absolute worst console gen for both consoles. Never in my life thought I'd be a PC gamer but I've been spoiled by the cheap costs, cross-platform controllers and mostly the unbelievably useful Steam controller config.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv722d ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk2d ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.