Sony Finally Announces PlayStation VR’s Price and Release Window

During a media event at the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco, Sony Computer Entertainment finally gave precise information on the availability and price of PlayStation VR.

[Steven3657]

Sony Wins

[fr0sty]

I called the delay a few days ago, and nobody believed me. I knew when we got half way through the first half of the year that it wouldn't launch within the first half. October works for me though, plus it makes more sense since it is closer to the holidays.

[Abash]

Pre-ordering PSVR as soon as I can!

[Overload]

This is going to be MASSIVE this Christmas.

[Sunny_D]

Yup, They also will need to use the extra months to advertise the hell out of it now. Let consumers know how much cheaper it is than the competition and the amount of games coming out for it.

Can someone actually tell me how much better quality the other VR headsets are compared to PSVR? If the difference is negligible, then most consumers won't give a flying hoot about the competition.

[Eonjay]

So the Gamestop CEO was exonerated.

[ji3200]

it has bigger scale size than IMAX movie theater screen. there is virtual imax movie theater with oculus dk2.

[Eonjay]

PSA: Preorders open tonight so lets see how this plays out.

[Army_of_Darkness]

I Totally called it :-p

http://n4g.com/news/1867243...

[Gazondaily]

Hmm £350 is a bit steep but hey, if it works well then I'm all in.

Ace Combat and GT with this...potential game changer

[FriedGoat]

@septic, import from EU and get for around £300 if your short on dollar. Either way an awesome price for what will most likely be the most successful VR we will see in the coming years.

[amiga-man]

Steep? compared to the competition and what it is offering it's a bargain, Well done Sony I say.

The only bad news is having to wait till October, I was hoping for june :(

[G20WLY]

Just open up for pre-orders DAMMIT!

[xer0]

I'm all in! :)

[darthv72]

$399 for the base unit with bundles yet to be priced. Bundles would include the camera and move controllers which (the camera at least) are required to play.

So I'm guessing a bundle might be closer to $499..? Not sure what the going rate is for the camera and move but since you really only need the camera then less than $450.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

$400?

I want to say DOA sooo bad, but $400 was the max I had going for it.

It'll move units, but won't fly off the shelves at that price imo.

[Eonjay]

Second PSA: The PS4's media player will support content filmed in 360. So VR porn confirmed. This discussion is over. Be informed people.

[starchild]

That's on the upper end of what I thought Sony would possibly charge. There was almost no chance they would have charged more than $400.

Still, this should be affordable for a lot of people and should help make VR a success, which I'm all for.

I don't really think PSVR is in direct competition with the Oculus Rift or Vive, though.

[freshslicepizza]

predictable price and it being delayed is also predictable. it will probably sell quite decent, i expect 2 million sales in a year. the ps4 will be 3 years old by then so you have to ask yourself, who is going to fully embrace it?

[zeee]

Meanwhile, Polygon's been working hard trying to make it look expensive!

PSVR is the cheapest option even if you include the cost of a brand new camera and a new PS4.

[Kryptix]

@moldybread

The PSVR will most likely be compatible with future Playstation consoles just like with everyone's HDTVs.

You know what was really predictable? Doom comments like yours over some good news. I'm sure people will see how fun Occulus Rift is in consumer's hands and people will go out and buy the PSVR to have the same experience. I predict Sony will have a higher demand than they predicted and they will go on to sell at least over 3 million in 12 months, only if it comes with enough games. Of course I'm a realist...

If Sony reaches 50-55 million PS4 before October, PSVR could easily reach 4 million in a year. Only a little over 10 percent would have to to buy it and that's an achievable number as the VR games keep coming.

[fr0sty]

Cookies would be nice.

[bouzebbal]

This is imo a massive blow to other VR manufacturers. One due to the price, and second because every PS4 is VR ready.
If VR becomes mainstream, it will be thanks to this one.
To make people accept some new technology, it needs to be a minimum affordable. Making high end VR 800$ is a very stupid move from the other manufacturers.

Well done Sony, well done!!!

[Unspoken]

$400? Let's see how many are willing to dish out so much for a peripheral.

Might as well get the superior Oculus.

[zeuanimals]

@Unspoken:

That makes sense, "$400 is too much, buy the $600 Oculus instead". And we've yet to see if Oculus is better. You can play better looking games with it because you'll need a more powerful (and expensive) PC to use it, meaning the games will be visually more stunning.

The device itself however runs at a refresh rate of 90Hz, whereas the PSVR runs at 120Hz. The Oculus also uses a pentile display which can lead to a more obvious screen door effect while the PSVR uses a better RGB display and from everything we've heard, the screen door effect is pretty much gone. The Oculus is using a 1200p display though, which has 25% more pixels than a 1080p display. I'd say the devices themselves are about even, aside from price. The screen door effect might ruin the crisper images on the Oculus, though.

[freshslicepizza]

@Kryptix
"The PSVR will most likely be compatible with future Playstation consoles just like with everyone's HDTVs."

probably, yes.

"Of course I'm a realist..."

"If Sony reaches 50-55 million PS4 before October"

it took sony about 26 months to reach 36 million systems (which we all know is very very good) but you expect them to sell another 14-19 million is just 8 months which does not cover the holiday busy season? that's not being a realist, that's being very very optimistic.

[MattE]

This price includes camera I presume? And wands?

[MattE]

@zeuanimals

It's doesn't run at 120hz. It's upscaled, which from my understanding isn't ideal..

The PsVR cannot match the oculus plus once you factor in the PS eye and maybe the wands/decent headphones.. It's overpriced.

[Unspoken]

@zejanimal

It does make sense. If $400 all of a sudden magically popped up to purchase this, why not save a little more and get the better product, considering everyone has a gaming PC now.

$400 is for the base head unit. You still need the move and eye. That raises the price again. Over $400, when so many were asking for a $300 bundle. How many are going to purchase it now?

We already know, even from Sony's own mouth, that PSVR is inferior to Oculus in technology and imagery.

http://n4g.com/news/1875273...

Maybe the headset will include more brainwashing when put on.

[Realms]

After reading the comments the spin some fanboys are doing is beyond delusional, at the end of the day PSVR is the most accessible entry into VR with it's price point and built in install base. Sony brilliantly positioned it's self to dominate by being the most affordable and accessible.

[fr0sty]

MAttE,

It has the option to run at native 120hz or reprojected 120hz, the developer chooses.

[zeuanimals]

@Moldybread:

Considering the PS4 sold around 18 million last year at the price of $400, I'm sure it can do the same if not better at $350. It might even see another price drop at the end of the year.

@Unspoken:

Lol. Are you salty over people saying the Xbox brand is going to be dead because the games are going to PC? Well, I'm not one of the idiots who thinks it completely devalues the brand.

And what the Sony exec said was extremely vague. "Better VR" could be because it has a 1200p display and it can run better looking games at the target framerate due to being on PC. Still doesn't change the fact the device can't show anything above 90fps and it has a worse display. Overall, as I said, VR on PC will look and tend to play better due to the fact they're on PC and the display has 25% more pixels. The device itself doesn't seem to be up to par on every level though, which is what you were saying. Oculus is "superior", the device itself isn't, the platform it's on is.

[freshslicepizza]

@zeuanimals
"Considering the PS4 sold around 18 million last year at the price of $400, I'm sure it can do the same if not better at $350. It might even see another price drop at the end of the year. "

once again you are not taking into consideration from now until november is not the busy season. 14-19 million from now until october is possible but highly unlikely.

[Genuine-User]

I was expecting to pay at least £400. Sony has surprised/shocked me with their price tag.

£350 for PSVR is absolutely fantastic. I Hope it gets the mainstream appreciation.

[esemce]

You will also need to own the PS4 camera and maybe move motion controllers so that adds to around £400.

[Genuine-User]

@esemce

I already have a camera and a move controller. But for those that don't have a move controller, DS4 will work just fine.

[nitus10]

Got an email to state that the PSVR will be AU$549.95 (approx US410) recommended retail price. Of course that also means spending about AU$80 for the camera as well. I do expect some bundles which could drop the price as well.

Since this device appears to act as a personal HDTV as well it could also target the none gamers.

Included in the package (at least in Australia):
> VR headset × 1
> Processor unit × 1
> VR headset connection cable × 1
> HDMI cable × 1
> USB cable × 1
> Stereo headphones × 1 (with a complete set of earpiece)
> AC power cord × 1
> AC adaptor × 1

I was not expecting stereo headphonesalthough it does make sense since the PS4 comes a cheap mono ear-bud with microphone.

Looking at the picture of the pictures in the following URL: http://www.dualshockers.com...

It appears that the stereo ear-buds don't come with a microphone (see the connector - has only three sections - should have four) although it may be possible to have the microphone in-built to the VR headset which I doubt. Still they may have made a mistake (most likely) when photographing the headset.

[nitus10]

The PSMove is supported however for most VR games you would most likely have the option of using it or the dual shock 4 since they both have a light that can be tracked by the camera.

Personally would hold off on the PSMove for now although IMHO it is not a bad device. If you do get a PSMove it is well worth the cost of getting the smaller navigation controller as well (it's actually quite cheap), holding the DS4 in one hand for navigation is a PITA.

[Nintentional]

PS VR: the next Wii U

[OB1Biker]

SWBF wow

[Newmanator]

BOOM!

[Next_gen_2015]

$400 for a peripheral is hardly a win. I bet most playstation owners wont even buy it at that price.

I know i wont...

[badz149]

@Next_gen_2015

you don't really get it do you? PSVR $400, OR $600 and HTCV (accessories included) $800! how's that not a win? although OR comes with a controller, PSVR + PS Camera (DS4 is enough if you don't already have MOVE) is still only $450 or even less if you know where to look!

this is not talking about "accessories" as a whole but this is about VR and with almost 40 mil PS4 already sold out there, the market potential is massive! admittedly they still have to market the hell out of it and find a way to really show people that PSVR is not just a cheap alternative for VR but it is de facto VR solution that both WORKS and OFFERS GREAT EXPERIENCE.

[silvacrest]

@Next_gen_2015

maybe but I'm pretty sure i'm more likely to one day buy PSVR vs the competition

[nix]

Nextgen,

150 for a controller was a win but.

OT: I'll have to check this out at kiosks first. I sometimes get bad motion sickness when playing some games. The price looks alright considering they're throwing headphones with it.

[-Foxtrot]

Wow that's pretty lower then I was expecting.

I mean there is no point going for even more powerful specs when you still don't know how well this will work.

It's smart, you are letting the higher price VR ones show off their amazing features and once they see the price of Sony's they'll get one of them instead

BY THE WAY I'm NOT saying Sony's VR is inferior, they are almost similar. I know people might twist that.

I'm just saying it's a good idea for your first VR, something brand new on the market to focus on price before anything else. Once it does well and sells enough then your successor can go all in.

[darthv72]

"It's smart, you are letting the higher price VR ones show off their amazing features and once they see the price of Sony's they'll get one of them instead"

Only problem is PSVR is not for PC and the PC ones arent for consoles (that we know of). So to say when people see the PSVR price and get one, is not quite accurate.

It is in regards to just the "price" but that consumer would either need to have a PS4 or if they have a PC then their options are either get a PS4 or get the headset for their PC which makes the choice very limited.

[nitus10]

I sort of agree and disagree with what you said.

Sure it may be possible if the more higher priced VR devices are shown and appear better then some will opt of the higher priced VR device.

I do think the majority of people who see and try both the PSVR and the more expensive PC based VR devices will opt for the cheaper and in many ways more convenient option.

Most PSVR buyers will only see and try the PSVR since that will be much more easier to demonstrate than the PC VR devices.

For demonstrating a PC VR device most hardware and gaming stores are not going to get in a relatively high end PC just to demonstrate the PC VR device and then have to inform the prospective buyer that they need a higher end PC (which does cost) to use the PC VR device properly.

[donthate]

... or consumers will say, this is kind of neat, but it cost more than my PS4 console and have so little content. I think I will skip VR or try Google Cardboard VR with my existing phone for $20.

[Unspoken]

No, you are absolutely correct. The PSVR is the inferior product and it's price reflects that.

It's too bad you are saying those who buy the PSVR are not smart enough to know the difference between it and the higher end offerings, and that Sony is capitalizing on gamers ignorance. Shame.

[Dir_en_grey]

Why wait til October... it might be all sold out and be short in supply due to Xmas.

Hope they have some sort of special program to basically sell it to people who can't wait or something.

The demos are working now so I'm fine w/ just those right now. So many games releasing at once, I would want to buy them all but there's definitely no time to play them all and will hurt the sales...

Anyway just release it earlier.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

So open up the assembly lines early, rush it just for a few impatient people, and cater to the 1% because, reasons. Great business idea.

[uth11]

But then they can be the hot product of Christmas, sell out and suddenly everyone will want one.

It worked for the wii...

[Dir_en_grey]

@KwietStorm
It also works for watching movies and many people are fine with just that.
The product is already finalized anyway, they are waiting for a strong software line-up.
But from the comments here many people are ready to buy it if Sony release this tomorrow anyway, I know I want one ASAP.
Anybody down talking PSVR is simply just afraid of it being the competitor of whatever other platform they play on.

[cd1]

"A special program to sell it to people who cant wait" - quite possibly one of the most idiotic things I've ever read on the internet...and that's saying something!

I am pleasantly surprised with the £350 price, I was expecting £500 considering the extra Hardware the headset comes with.

Day one purchase for me!

[BoriboyShoGUN]

Glad I held on to my old Move controllers. Was getting worried for a second but I knew they'd support them eventually. Now they need to launch a bunch of quality games that use the tech and we'll be set!

[Odoylerules000]

How were the old games that used Move? It didn't seem to get a lot of support but I really wanted to try it.

[BoriboyShoGUN]

They weren't that great. I never got to try the House of the Dead with the gun though

[nitus10]

@Odoylerules000

Played Sorcery with the PSMove and PSNavigator and it plays really well. Not a long game though but you do get a little workout since you do have to (well should) stand.

I would assume most VR games can be played sitting down so you will have the option of using the PSMove or the Dual Shock 4.

[ShadowKnight]

They got it. Great price. I guess I'll be checking out the oculus until then. Will be pre-ordering the PSVR soon.

[kenwonobi]

Mass market pricing. Sony knows what they are doing to reach casual gamers as well. Very satisfied with this price.

[mcstorm]

I'm unsure about this. I really don't see PSVR (This version anyway) Being a massive seller. People need to remember the casual gamer is now the one playing on the PS4. They don't tend to go out and spend loads on extra parts for the console and the price for the PSVR+ camera is going to work out more than the console its self and that is for one device.

I know its different tec but Kinect sold well at being £120 because it was all that was needed for more than one person to use it. PS move you needed to buy 5 devices for 2 people to use it. If you look at VR for 2 people to use it you are looking at spending close to £700 and that is high.

I am still unsure about if VR will become big in gaming but if the companys keep at it the cost will come down and as that happens and it becomes more affordable and the games/software come then the next gen could be where we see it start to take off. Hay I could be wrong but apart from a small number of people on sites like this I don't see it selling well come October.

[DigitallyAfflicted]

If Sony would be a chess player it would be Garry Kasparov. Smooth !!!

[Tsar4ever01]

$399, not bad. I wonder if Frontier games will get Elite Dangerous for ps4 working on ps-vr, and No man's sky too for that matter?

[Anomander]

I don't think they have been working much on the PC VR for the game let alone start working on the PS4 VR. Have they even announced a release date for the PS4 yet? I have it on both my PC an Xbox 1. Prefer my PC for the Saitek X52 HOTAS flight sticks. The X1 is fun to play on, since I can put my TV in 3D mode and get a nice 3D effect with the game. I call that my poor mans VR for right now. I need the price to come down on the VR units on PC to get one.

[ThanatosDMC]

Frontier was developing the game for PS4 till when they announced it's exclusivity for the xb1. Depends on how much MSFT paid for exclusivity.

[Anomander]

@ThanatosDMC Thanks I wasn't aware they were working on the PS4 version at the same time. With how they have been doing the season releases on PC I wasn't sure how the development of other platforms were going.

Horizons has been fun with the planetary and moon landings. Looking forward to more updates with it. Just need to find the time to sit down and play. There have been a lot of games that have pulled me away from ED.

[_-EDMIX-_]

lolz, read it in Kermit voice.

[Vegamyster]

We don't know how big VR will be so It's really going to come down to how well it sells and the games, being the cheapest VR product so far doesn't mean it will be a massive success. Sony has a record of abandoning support for products that don't do well after a certain period of time (Xperia play, Move/camera, Vita ect.)If it does great and they support it well then i pick one up right away but I'm not going to jump in and dump $400+ on it + the move controller/camera only to have it be abandoned a few years later.

[Ysmir6723]

Cookies?

[Xb1ps4]

So as far as price goes it's a console in it's self.. That's not bad it's just songs history of supporting anything other then it's console hasn't been that great so to ask for $400 while it's not out of bounds for new tech, it is a lot of money for something that might end up like its handhelds... Just my opinion..

I will not be a day one customer but I will most definitely keep a seriously close eye on this vr, I hope it really does well and gets all the support because I can see the potential just like Kinect had potential but that obviously didn't work out and I hope psvr doesn't end up like that.. It's time we move forward with something new in the gaming world other than pixels graphics and frame rates....

[IamTylerDurden1]

Spectacular.

$200 cheaper than Oculus.

$399 is the sweet spot, Day 1 for me.

[Death]

Rift comes with the camera, a remote, an Xbox One controller and 2 games for the $200 more. You need a $60 camera which isn't included for $399 and you aren't getting games or the included controller either. When you add the PS Camera and a Move controller, what kind of price do you have? You are minimum $460 for PSVR with no games. How long do you think it will take for Rift to unbundle their VR headset to lower the price?

[Odoylerules000]

@Death Considering you need a decent gaming rig, you're still paying quite a bit more just to play the OR. I mean, they're trying to bundle a $1,400 computer with the OR. You really want to try to argue that its somehow cheap? LOL, really!?!?!? The OR developers straight up said that the spec requirements aren't going to be small. You should argue (If you really want to, and I think you do) that the OR is better BECAUSE its so premium. Play the wealthy, PC master race card; its the only card you have.

[Bathyj]

We also get more information on the “cinematic mode” and on the new media player.

“The system also has a Cinematic mode, which lets users enjoy a variety of content in a large virtual screen while wearing the headset. Supported content for the Cinematic mode includes standard PS4 games and videos as well as variety of PS4 features including Share Play and Live from PlayStation. Users will also be able to enjoy 360 degrees photos and videos that are captured by devices such as omnidirectional cameras on PS VR via PS4 Media Player, which will let them feel as if they are physically inside the captured scene.”

Cinematic mode will allow us to see videos on a virtual screen perceived like one measuring up to 225 inches at a distance of 2.5 meters.

“Users can enjoy content on a virtual screen up to 225 inches (5 meters in width) at a distance of 2.5 meters. The size of the screen will feel different depending on individual users.”

BOOM !! Thats what I was waiting for. Confirmation that this is not a device just to play dedicated VR games on. Ive gone from optimistically curious to definitely want one. "standard PS4 games and videos" means there are limitless uses for this.

That and the price is what everyone wanted too. This should do really well, cant wait for VR to finally be a thing. Only been waiting since the 80's. I might start looking around for a cheap camera.

[MRMagoo123]

Hmmm I wonder how much it's gonna be here in Australia tho we always get shafted. I have a move and ps4 camera so I'm all set😊

[Bathyj]

Probably 550 - 600. Its a lot but its worth it now in my opinion. Look at it this way, Id rather buy this than a new TV for 2 grand, so much more immersive. It going to be the best way to watch Blurays.

[Rhythmattic]

Yes !!

We've talk about this before, and this makes it a jugganaut !

[nitus10]

@MRMagoo123

In Australia the PSVR will AU$549,95 RRP although you will require the PS camera. PSMove and navigator are optional since you will most likely be able to use the Dual Shock 4 for most VR games.

Note: When I mentioned the RRP that is for October and as you are aware stores that stock this device will have specials especially since October is leading into Christmas.

[MasterCornholio]

Cool that the headset will give me an imax size screen experience.

I always wanted a device that can give you a large screen TV without taking up the space of a large screen .

[S2Killinit]

AWESOME !
Great price of entry. Cant WAIT.

Interestingly: "a new media player medium to release simultaneously"

[Armyntt]

I hope im wrong. I want it to succeed. What i see happening is the people that buy it, will love it. But the people buying will be very small. 400 for a peripheral is way to high imo. Im no expert but I couldn't see more than 30% of PS owners buying it. I dont see it being a system seller in any facet. I will maybe buy one but not day one. I see it more like DOA. Im pessimistic with the masses buying this.

[boing1]

If it's too high then why Oculus sold out first wave of pre-orders in 15 minutes for 599$? People here are clearly misjudging the demand for this tech. It'll fly off the shelves at this price point and Sony is going to rule mainstream VR market. And I can bet they will also try to sell it as your huge, but personal, screen for consuming other types of media. Imax experience at home basically.

[ColonelHugh]

@Armyntt
Ok, if PSVR sells 30% of PS4's sales, as you say, and then even assuming the sales have abruptly stopped at March levels that would be over 12 million. Roughly as many units as the Wii U, and half of Xbox One. That would be a damn successful peripheral. But those numbers are of course from your wild speculation, so who can say?

[nitus10]

I suppose you could look at the PSVR as a peripheral in the same way you could look at a HDTV or monitor being peripherals.

[Armyntt]

All great points gentlemen.

[keki]

mmorpg in first person

[Shinuz]

but the price is actually 459$ because you need the camera with it (which cost around 60$).

[Christopher]

$45 max for the camera at retail, but I think the $400 price is for people who already have the camera. There is a bundle with the camera, not sure how much that costs, though.

[Shinuz]

@ Christopher

In Canada its actually 60$ (the list price is even 69.99)

https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-...

[XanderZane]

I hope people read this fine print as well.

"Update 2: If you don’t have a PlayStation Camera, you’ll have to add it to the cost of your investment in PlayStation VR, as it’ll be required, but it won’t be included in the package."

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4...

How many gamers will run out and buy one of these, get home, hook it up and then find out they also need to buy the $60 camera for it to work. Why didn't they just include the camera as well and charge $450 for it? I'll wait a year and see how thing transpire.

What did Sony win?

[Majin-vegeta]

Cuz theure giving people an option.There is a bundle for $450.

[Christopher]

@Majin-vegeta: cheaper to buy the camera separately :P

[starchild]

Some people already have the camera, so it's good to give people the option to buy the headset by itself.

But it's not exactly honest to say the PSVR is $200 cheaper than the Rift when the latter also includes the motion tracking camera and the controller.

[BEASELY]

Starchild, every PS4 comes with a controller, so while your sentiment on the value proposition is valid, ultimately it doesn't matter.

Oculus also requires a $1200 PC minimum, but I would never include that in the Oculus sticker price.

[jb227]

No one actually believes you are at all interested in the Sony ecosystem...I don't know if you actually own any Sony products, but considering you have nothing but criticism for the company & it's moves, I'm leaning towards no.

We still have 6-7 months before the unit drops, and chances are Sony will sell a bundle w/ everything included, so no they aren't screwing consumers by not including the price of those units in this initial cost.

As far as what Sony "won", they won the VR price war. You & your ilk can wait for eternity, it won't make any difference, anyone interested in VR and at all concerned for the cost will go w/ PSVR. They have essentially locked up the entire curiosity crowd, and when they end up w/ the better games library they will have locked those up as well. Oculus & Vive may push more pixels, but at the end of the day Sony will simply have more potential for actual content....pixels don't mean much when the games don't actuall exist for your unit, or you have to pay twice as much for negligible performance gains.

[cd1]

XanderZane - Some of us already have the camera, I would be disappointed if i had to buy it twice.

On a side note mine came bundled with the PS4, two controllers and Killzone, when you break down the price the camera was free!

All hail PSVR :D

[XanderZane]

@jb227
Hhmm.. I'm interested in all things gaming. I own every PS game console ever made include both handhelds. So yes, I'm well aware about Sony's PS ecosystems and just about every other console's ecosystem, since I've been gaming since 1978.

As for the PSVR, I'm interested, but cautious and want to see how the launch goes. After Sony hyped the PS MOVE and PSTV and then pulled the plug on both of those without warning, gamers should be cautious before shelling out $400-$500 on a new product.

Sony won the price war? Well maybe, but only by $100 and even the SCE's VP: Masayasu Ito admits the PSVR can't match the power of the Oculus Rift. So gamers who pay more for the Rift or Vive will be getting a more powerful VR system in the end. We still have to see how the games turn out for all these VR systems. No guarantee who will have the better game library yet. You're assuming to many things before the hardware has even launched.

http://n4g.com/news/1875273...

@cd1
I too own the PS3 Camera and the Move Controllers. No PS4 camera though. Not everyone owns both of these things for the PS4. Luckily Sony will most likely do a bundle SKU as well before the PSVR launches in October. So my wishes will be granted in the end. Still for many gamers they will be paying more then $400 for the PSVR.

[Majister-Ludi]

Not sure what they won exactly. I still can't see the average consumer shelling out 400 for a peripheral unless it has an impressive catalog of proven games. I'm not sold on any vr yet. If I have to make a choice I would lean towards the highest quality as I always do. I will wait and see reevaluate vr after some great games are released.

[3-4-5]

I won't be buying into VR this gen, but $400 is an ok price. I've seen the long list of games that are supposed to release for it so it does have the potential to do well and make an impact.

Do you have to own a PS4 to play this though right?

So for somebody without a PS4 they would have to spend at least $800 ?

[UKmilitia]

but look at all those wires

[jamstorr86]

I'm not so sure about 'Sony Wins'. When you consider the price of a camera and two move controllers, you aren't far off from Oculus Rift price. Plus, there will be a ton more games available on the PC Platform for VR, as the barriers for releasing new VR titles won't be there when compared to the PS4.
I am certain PS VR will be a success, but as both a PC owner and a PS4 owner, my money will be going to Oculus.

[Relientk77]

$400! That's awesome great job Sony

[lelo2play]

Too expensive! 400€ + camera.

No thanks. PS VR or Oculus Rift are not for me.

[UnHoly_One]

I don't see this thing going mainstream at a price like that.

400 bucks, plus 50 for the camera, plus maybe a move controller?

I just don't see anyone outside of the diehards on forums like this paying that much money for such a limited use item.

[funkyvideogames]

Yes Sony knows how to capture more customers!

[Dark11]

Too expensive for an unproven tech.

[I_am_Batman]

The price is acceptable when they can back it up with quality games. Star Wars Battlefront is pretty big.

[ColonelHugh]

It sounded to me like it is going to be a separate VR SW Battlefront game, but either way that is huge, and the announcement seemed held for this moment knowing it's gonna snowball through internet and word of mouth.

[jamstorr86]

you can already use the Oculus Rift DK2 to play battlefront on the PC...

[sourav93]

Eh?

[Overload]

That's nonsense.

[gangsta_red]

I agree, I would be very cautious about any peripheral from Sony too and definitely at $400.

[Sunny_D]

With there being 50 games coming out by the end of the year and being promoted very much (more than PSMOVE) relatively early in the console cycle, Sony is going to be in this for the long haul.

[DigitalRaptor]

To be honest, I would also be very cautious about a peripheral being supported by approximately 230 developers, several of Sony's first-party studios working on games for it, with 50 games to be released around launch, using enhanced tech from their previous peripherals, which proves they haven't throw anything away on their progress towards this kind of experience. None of that was a waste... all roads lead here.

I would be very cautious about VR in general with it being supported in ways that represent huge financial investments from billion dollar corporations like Apple, Google, Facebook, Valve, Samsung as well as plenty of huge movie and entertainment studios around the world. I would also be very cautious about the lack of positive impressions of PSVR since they started demoing it... ummm, if there is a lack of those, that is.

It's interesting, if you compare the investments on a financial, a market awareness and pre-release promotion level and Sony's VR push eclipses any kind of momentum, cause and effect, any previous peripheral of theirs had. Wasn't there an article published recently on Road To VR, that mentioned that there were more games in development for PSVR than PS Move ever got in its lifetime on the market for PS3? Yes, I believe so. Still.... I agree, you have to be cautious. Just 'cause...

[Fin_The_Human]

$299 was my sweet spot so going to have to play the waiting game.

[kraenk12]

You would be very cautious about anything from Sony, we get that.

[IamTylerDurden1]

How about a $600 peripheral from a fledgling startup? Would you prefer Oculus? Your argument is so tired and baseless. I'm surprised you didn't discredit VR all together bc of Virtual Boy.

The Move was a terrific product that had very little support. PSVR already has more developer support than Move ever had. To show you how technically sound Move is, Sony is using it perfectly in conjunction with PSVR.

Developers seem to disagree with you. They are raving about PSVR and supporting it like crazy.

[gangsta_red]

Everyone was also raving about the Vita. I remember how a lot of people were rabid about how so many developers were on board with games and that Sony would support it with it's excellent 1st party titles. How there was thunderous applause at the low price point for such a powerful handheld device.

I also remember how Move was celebrated and a lot of people ran around shouting true 1:1 and how it was so much better then the waggle of the Wii and would be the true way to play games. How everyone laughed along with Kevin Butler as he joked about the Wii and everyone ate it up.

I keep reading how all these companies like Google, Apple, etc, etc are investing in VR as if it's some kind of guaranteed hit or success and is suppose to convince me that Sony hasn't ever abandoned their other peripherals in the past and might do so again if this VR doesn't work out. These companies are jumping on a bandwagon and seeing if it's a success, the same way a lot of them jumped on the 3-D fad not too long ago.

@Tyler

"How about a $600 peripheral from a fledgling startup?"

Hell no!

"Would you prefer Oculus?"

Not interested.

"I'm surprised you didn't discredit VR all together bc of Virtual Boy."

I actually have discredited VR but not because of Virtual Boy.

"They are raving about PSVR and supporting it like crazy."

Just like the Vita!

[Christopher]

I get what you're saying, but taking the focus about just "Sony" makes you come off as bias in purpose. I mean, it's not like MS doesn't have their own failures (Zune, Kinect, the whole phone market right now, etc.).

But, with something like this, I'm a "wait and see how it works after a year" type of person. Even then, probably not my thing.

@below: Note that I said I know what you were getting at, I was explaining why people were responding negatively to it.

[gangsta_red]

@Christoper

"I mean, it's not like MS doesn't have their own failures (Zune, Kinect, the whole phone market right now, etc.)."

Pepsi and Coke have their own failures too with Crystal Pepsi and New Coke. I'm not bringing those up because this isn't an article about them.

My comment and why the focus was on Sony was in response to the many here who replied to me.

[DarXyde]

So instead, you would be open to HTC, who specialize in mobile phones and tablets or Oculus VR who were founded 4 years ago but have Facebook's money who ALSO has no experience in VR or HMDs beyond what they're doing now? Nevermind the fact that Sony has made HMDs and found a way to have it work with PS4 using a headset in conjunction with their pre-existing technology...

I hope you were this skeptical of HTC and and Oculus. Fact is, Sony openly stated it would be as expensive as a console and may not match the other headsets in quality. And really, how can it? The others are bloody PC headsets. PEE. CEE. Power-wise, no, PS4 cannot keep up with a rig that can run those headsets. And you know what? That's okay. Wii wasn't as powerful as PS3 or Xbox 360 either and it did remarkably well. Now some could say because of the casual market, but one could also argue it was the price of entry and support it amassed over time. Wii had plenty of games, even if some were shovelware. Doesn't change the fact that it was a new way to play and it was cheaper than the competition.

Seeing as PlayStation VR has no competition on consoles, is cheaper than its closest competition, has incredible support, has various modes of function, and Sony has gone to great lengths to make the headset comfortable and presumably reliable (since, y'know, a lot of experience making HMDs and all), I would say PlayStation VR is in a great position to do well in the VR space and does not warrant the caution you appear to exhibit.

And if you do and are not cautious of the other VR headsets, I would find it difficult to take you seriously.

[gangsta_red]

@DarXyde

"So instead, you would be open to HTC,..."

I am really trying to find where I stated I would be more open to HTC's VR, especially after telling Tyler I wasn't interested in it.

@Stogz
Yup, you got me.

If MS made this I would be fiercely and violently defending it and giving it all the marketing PR it needed. Telling everyone that a bunch of developers are supporting it, that MS is fully backing it, that it's in a prime position to rule the world. Pretty much what you all have been doing but replacing Sony with MS.

Fanboys indeed Stogz.

[DigitalRaptor]

And more news to drive the stake through all of that desperate nonsense: http://n4g.com/news/1878108...

PSVR sells out in 7 mins on the biggest shopping store on the web. PS4 Camera was sold out at one point too. Have they dropped support for that? They have never abandoned their camera tech like it were a "fad" or "gimmick".

PS4's crazy success is actually the catalyst driving the future (current) success of PSVR. Did Vita/Move sell out even within the first few hours? Can you point me towards a list of devs making games for Vita/Move PRE-release, that comes close to 230? There is a demand for PSVR that you wish there isn't. The situations are not the same as before, but you are trying to have people believe it so. You are, per usual, being difficult because of an apathy towards PlayStation products and desire to save face on previous ridiculous claims.

Oh and before you try and put words in my mouth AGAIN about me thinking Sony owns the VR space - I never said that. But heck, Sony will own the VR space in terms of market share, in the mainstream for many years because of the brand association, accessibility and price advantage.

As I've told you in the past, your discrediting of VR stems only from your fear that it will put PS4 in a strong position and cast shadow on XB1, by leading the market with this product and technology, and your fear of it bringing more new PS4 games. You can try and deny it by bringing up excuses, but it won't fly because your entire comment history reads you denying the PS4 superiority when it's to the detriment to the Xbox. Like you have always tried to deny that PS4 has way more games, more diversity and higher rated games than the XB1 every time I bring it up - PSVR is the undeniable curb stomp against rebuttals to this claim. Because why would somebody like yourself, who (claims to) own both consoles be bothered if one console has more games, more diversity and higher rated games if they could play all those games and have no reason to damage control?

What is obvious, is that this is the primary reason you will choose to be in denial about VR's future. As I've previously said, PSVR's presence in combination with Nintendo's NX presents a problem for Xbox: http://www.videogamer.com/f...

Instead of being realistic about the current situation, you're only here to make excuses that cast doubt in ANY and ALL cases:

- Hilariously trying to justify a claim that "VR is not immersive" - a paradox.
- Pushing the idea that awkward 3D gaming is remotely comparable to the sensory experience VR is right now providing across multiple platforms.
- Making excuses as to why some of the biggest technology corps in the world are simultaneously throwing away billions in R&D on "unproven tech", just to try it out like a weekend in Vegas!
- Excuses about problems wearing the VR headset will introduce: nonsense that I already tore apart.

How you continue to defend MS and their past antics in the industry, is exactly the same thing as you're doing here in "being cautious" with Sony peripherals. After the constant changing directions, lies and hypocritical statements from Xbox execs, you should be cautious in believing ANYTHING they say going forward. But you won't. And like Christopher said, MS has past failures in tech too, as usual I'm dizzy from your spin to make this not look like double standards on your part!

[DarXyde]

Didn't say you were for HTC or Oculus. I was clearly asking. Allow me to explain portions of my post:

"I hope you were this skeptical of HTC and and Oculus."

Does not say you are or are not skeptical of Oculus/HTC. I'm literally saying, "I hope you were this skeptical of [them]", particularly because you would have greater need to be.

"I would say PlayStation VR is in a great position to do well in the VR space and does not warrant the caution you appear to exhibit."

Clearly stated that it's caution you *APPEAR* to be displaying. It would be wrong to conclude you were skeptical of one and not the others--you just never mentioned that you were skeptical of VR in general.

"And if you do and are not cautious of the other VR headsets, I would find it difficult to take you seriously."

An obvious conditional. The condition is that *if* you are not cautious of the other headsets, I would have a hard time taking you seriously.

You jumped to conclusions here, not me.

[DragonDDark]

There's a review on the front page...

[Genuine-User]

We're in 2016 pal. It's not unproven tech anymore. Even mobile phones can deliver VR.

[MasterCornholio]

Price is fine.

[Zoombael]

since its not unproven its not too expensive.

[kenwonobi]

Lost your point after Vive and Rift came in at 200 and 300 dollars more.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Nope. When 230 teams are working on it....I'd say maybe its not that "unproven". If they feel great enough to start development on it, clearly its doing something for them to feel that confident in the tech.

That isn't just 230 teams from Sony bud. What matters is 3rd party feels they can make money on it, they feel they can create quality products from it, that is enough to get excited about.

[magiciandude]

400 isn't bad for a VR device, but the bigger issue is Sony's track record with their products besides their consoles, and how it could repeat itself with PS VR. PS Move, PS Vita, and PS Vita TV all serve as great examples...

[q8kik]

I don't think that support will matter in the near future. The appeal is that these headsets could replace our TV's and monitors as they become smaller, cheaper and lighter.

[DigitalRaptor]

DAMN SONY!

You got this. What a solid price, and they're not rushing it out. On to a winner with PSVR!
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LOL, Ermac... No we're talking about VR here, not PR. Do you really find anything abnormal about my comment, coming from a person who is excited about VR, especially affordable VR from a gaming brand that I am a huge fan of?

They're not wrong about the salt are they? Instead of trolling (which is what you did), why don't you go and find other people expressing the same excitement and enthusiasm for the fact that Sony has undercut the competition with an impressive price for great VR tech that from what we have been told is getting GREAT support. You will find it because it's a normal reaction to such an announcement.

Why else would you make this about me expressing my opinion, if you weren't acting so bitter about enthusiasm? And Rookie_Monster.... that's incredibly rich. Why don't you go back and read your comments on the 2015 console report card articles for one? Even including the pretences, your track record of promoting Xbox and damage controlling in addition, has been hilarious.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Rookie_Monster

You completely changed your comment about me, from a mocking/derogatory statement, to something that sounds coated in sugar. You did this AGAIN to make it look like you weren't trolling in a Sony article. If you believe in what you say, then don't try and hide it by completely changing it to prevent any blowback on yourself.
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@ gangster_red

That was one of the most misguided, lame and embarrassing comments I've ever read on this site. You're exposing nothing but your insecure state, revealing your true nature. Where did I say I didn't want Oculus Rift? Don't believe I ever have.

I want the freakin' HTC Vive over Oculus. However, where I come from, there's a thing called budgeting and also a thing called frugality. Can I afford to get the Oculus, let alone the Vive? Nope, I can't. I can't currently afford to upgrade a rig that the requirements of which are monstrous either. It's not within my budget right now. I have the Gear VR, and I'm adding to my ownership something better in PSVR that is both compatible with something I already own, is something I can afford, and will run the franchises that I love. It really isn't more simple than that. I will look to getting Vive when I can afford to. Troll harder.

[Majin-vegeta]

The headset will be released in Octber 2016 for $399, €399, .

Correction*October*

Im gonna go and say your excitement about the price caused it :p.

[sourav93]

The only "bad" thing I would say is the release date...That's only because I can't wait to get my hands on one. £349?! I'll take 2 please!!

[jmac53]

For the price of one Vive.

[sourav93]

With some change actually. Can't forget the extra £57 for shipping the Vive >_>

[MCTJim]

I'm still the wait and try it for myself kinda guy, but what does this include? is this just the headset? So I would have to buy a headphones, camera and move controllers or are they included?

[sourav93]

If I were you, I'd try and buy some move controllers NOW instead of getting them when PSVR comes out (unless there's a bundle, of course).

[jmac53]

I totally agree. They will jack up the price. Same with the camera.

[MCTJim]

that's why I was asking. If they are not included, those items alone add 200 bucks to the pricetag.

[TFJWM]

Pretty sure it will be bare bones for $399 otherwise they would have said it included something

[MCTJim]

I just found out it comes with just the PSVR :(

Going to have to drop almost another $200 to make it work the way it should. I hope they put up kiosks at the local stores so I can try it.

While the headline price doesn't include the PlayStation Camera, which is required, or the Move controllers,
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.c...

2 move controllers and camera so that adds $140 to the price, then a cheap headphone-$20 so in total we are now at almost $600 after tax is added.

[TFJWM]

@MCTJim It comes with headphones(It is in the pic of what comes with it). Move controllers are $28 each and the camera is $40. So that is just under $100 extra. (I see a camera/move bundle at release)

[FarEastOrient]

Already tried it, Amazon isn't letting me pre-order it, can't wait.

[kraenk12]

I'd wait cause it's still possible there is gonna be a new camera plus controllers!

[MRMagoo123]

I got my move controllers for $7 in Australia lol the wand and Navi pad thing

[Odoylerules000]

Lucky!

[Zarock]

October really!?

[DragonDDark]

Please be October 13th!

[BlakHavoc]

Cinematic mode sold me on this. I would absolutely love to be able to play non vr games on the headset. It's basically like a portable tv, I love it!

[nitrogav]

Try the Gear VR for cinema mode if you can. It's amazing and will keep you going until October. Now we need a preorder program soon Sony.

[nitus10]

In Australia pre-ordering is already available. I would be surprised if that is not the case in most countries where the PlayStation is sold.

If you are not sure connect to the PlayStation site relevant to your country.

[AgentSmithPS4]

Yep I was going to get it anyway but this makes it even better. I just hope it gets here before my gaming monitor dies.

[dennigo]

EPIC WIN, ocotber release date will probably be because they need the content to support it

[OC_MurphysLaw]

$399 is good price for the VR space. PS4 and PSVR definitely will be leading the way for the tech as teh price leader...this really now falls on Sony's shoulders to sell this to the masses imo. Being the unquestionable price leader of the 3 main VR units Sony will need to show the most to ensure VR meets and exceeds expectations.

[jmac53]

I think they need to have a lot more public demos like at PSX to get people sold on it. After trying RIGS, I was sold.

[bleedsoe9mm]

would have been better if they just took the hit and included the camera that keeps people from power vomiting in the living room , i can see some pissed parents when they realize they need to add another 70$ . that said its a fine price not over or under probably about right .

[Overload]

Bought.

[sourav93]

The October release date means a lot of kids are getting a PSVR for Christmas this year.

[OldGuyStillGaming]

Or an NX

Both PSVR and a NX for Xmas would be awesome

[JLynn943]

Lol @ the disagrees.

No reason to disagree other than being fanboys. If the nx comes out around the holiday, you are obviously correct.

[Tobsesan]

It's 12+ sooo not alot of Kids will get it. Remember your mom telling you not to go to far infront of the TV? This is basically a tv right in your face. Really cant see moms getting this for the Kids.

[Christopher]

These are the same moms who buy their kids rated R games. I think tons of kids will end up with this if they ask for it enough.

[kraenk12]

Not sure if kids should even get VR to play too early tbh! They are wasted enough already!

[gameforall]

£300 was my wish price, don't know why the extra 49 quid buggs me

[AgentSmithPS4]

"Quid" bugs me. I'm just glad it wasn't closer to $500.

[Muadiib]

It is if you get the camera and move controllers for the whole experience. Heck you have to get thecamera so it's actually £400 if you don't already have one and £460 in total.

[OldGuyStillGaming]

I need to see the games now that we know price and date.

[Lionalliance]

we already seen the games

[Zoombael]

then take a look at the games? eve valkyrie, battlezone, rigs...

[pwnsause_returns]

Ace combat 7, gran turismo, Those two games makes me want to buy one

[OldGuyStillGaming]

Same ones over and over again

How about something different?

[Criti-Choco]

@brokasfawk Theres about 50 games about to get support, relax dude. You cant just drum up game development on demand jesus.

[AgentSmithPS4]

Dreams, dinos, gun games (and possibly NMS) are top on my list.

[Eonjay]

"Besides VR games, there's something called cinematic mode, which will let you play flatscreen games or watch movies."

[Tobsesan]

Does oculus have the same Feature?

[Eonjay]

For movies, I believe so. Not certain about games.

[Pandamobile]

Yes. Vive does as well.

[kenmid]

yes, and you can play xbox one games.

[Majin-vegeta]

Nice

[ajax17]

So glad it's not too much! I hope those BioShock remastered rumors were true; I'd love to play those with the PSVR

[ColonelHugh]

Well, if you put any stock into Game Theorists, Bioshock Infinite wouldn't translate well into VR for the same reason people couldn't actually live there in real life. Too many moving islands would screw with your senses. Even if you were actually there, you'd have a constant headache and nausea. Imagine super sea sickness.

The first Bioshock would translate perfectly I would think.

[maybelovehate]

Very reasonable price.

[crazychris4124]

$400 and October for people who dont want to click the link

[ShadowKnight]

Sony made some great decisions this gen. Its definitely going to keep the momentum going for them for next gen.

[ColonelHugh]

Plus a newly announced SWBF VR game from a deal Sony made with EA.

[ShadowKnight]

Didn't know about that

[NovaCorps]

perfect and plenty of time for the money

day one

[FullmetalRoyale]

Totally. I'll be savin, here and there, towards it. That's how I prefer to purchase electronics. Helps justify it. 🙌

[MasterCornholio]

Nailed it with my prediction.

:)

[Psygnosis333]

Guys we have another Patcher here

[Tsunade]

Half the price of Vive.
$200 less than Oculus
Cinema mode to watch media, movies and all PS4 games with 3 levels of zoom.
Playstation VR room included
Star wars battlefront VR experience exclusive
Over 230 developers currently working on content for PSVR.

Wow, this was better than what I expected. PSVR will definitely be the mainstream VR experience to get. That price !!! People were expecting $500

Total win.

[MasterCornholio]

"Cinema mode to watch media, movies and all PS4 games with 3 levels of zoom."

So you can use it as an HMD?

That's amazing!!!!!

[Tsunade]

They also said you can use it to view your 360 pictures.

[Aenea]

A few months ago they mentioned it would be added after release and now it will be out of the box which is great news!

[Pullmywaffle]

It is 500 if you don't have the camera or move controls.

[DragonDDark]

You can find them cheap somewhere...

Lucky for me, I have both. Move since last gen and camera since launch :)

@Master
Yeah but lots of games will support it for sure.

[MasterCornholio]

Move controls are not mandatory

[Aenea]

Fun fact:
The Oculus and the Vive are €100 more than the US price (€700 and €900) in Euro countries due to VAT. Plus shipping will be expensive and you would need to pay import duties. The PSVR will be avail at local shops so this price is really rather nice!

[Bathyj]

Great point. I had thought of that myself. Id much rather buy something like this in a local shop.

[starchild]

Really? I heard most people predicting around $250 to $350. Being $400 is about the upper limit of what most were expecting.

[Death]

$460. Camera is extra. PSVR only for $400 is higher than most people expected.

[frostypants]

@Death, what? $399 is about the cheapest anyone ever thought it could possibly be.

[spektical]

yup definitely getting it at this price.. i already have the move devices and camera :D

[frostypants]

Hopefully they'll offer a bundle with the PSVR, camera, and Move controllers for $460 or so.

[rekk]

Nice nice

[Pullmywaffle]

$400 for a 720p headset, and an extra $100 for the camera and move controls. Still a pretty big gamble for an unproven piece of tech.

[TKCMuzzer]

Most new tech is unproven, if people didn't take the gamble then technology would stand still.
The cinematic mode is definitely interesting.

[Tsunade]

It is 1080p on each eye.

[kraenk12]

No it's not. It's 1080p for both which equals 1080 x 960 per eye!

[Pandamobile]

No, it's 1/2 1080p per eye.

[Hurfs]

Nope its 960x1080 per eye.....

[Death]

PSVR uses a single screen that is 1920x1080. The screen is split between each eye giving 960x1080 per eye.

Rift uses seperate OLED's for each eye that are 1080x1200 giving it a higher combined resolution of 2160x1200.

[FITgamer]

Where are you getting 720p from?

[Zoombael]

what is this bullcrap about unproven tech? there are thousands of people who had their first VR experience with psvr. who enjoyed it very much and still live.

[MasterCornholio]

1. Its proven to work (No Milo situation here)
2. The screen is 1080P

[Stapleface]

Just need to know when I can preorder. The price is cheaper than I expected.

[DragonDDark]

Pre order info coming tonight according to twitter.

[level 360]

Am going to see which retail outlets will offer the best bundle deal.

[kenwonobi]

Great price. They won virtual reality realm as well. I'm in. Just low enough to be affordable.

[Paganostaghetti]

This is great pricing and a great release window. The hype for VR has come again.

[Skankinruby]

Curb stomp victory, when the heck can you pre order this???

[crazychris4124]

Would be cool if they had a PS4/PSVR bundle with some games and Plus for a slightly reduced cost, maybe save $50 but its a great starter kit for both products

[LetoAtreides82]

I was hoping for a June release but releasing it on October is actually very smart if they hype it up well. Going to try to pre-order mines tomorrow at Gamestop.

[ji3200]

IT HAS BIGGER SCALE SCREEN SIZE THAN IMAX MOVIE THEATER SCREEN SIZE SO I THINK ITS WORTH IT. I OWNED OCULUS DK2 SO I KNOW VR COVERS YOUR PERIPHERIAL VISION BUT REAL IMAX WON'T COVER IT BECAUSE I STILL CAN SEE SURROUNDING WITH MY PERIPHERAL VISION AT THE MOVIE THEATER.

[DragonDDark]

Calm down m8. I'm excited too.

[Soldierone]

Everyone should head out right now and buy a PS Camera and move controllers. Both have been rather useless for a while, so stores have knocked the prices down on them big time.

Get em at discount, before they rise up at full price again in October. My local gamestop had the move controllers used for like 10 bucks.

[DazaMc]

I would imagine they will update the move controllers with micro usb ports and hopefully better quality buttons. They really should remove the XOsquareTriangle buttons from the front.

One big button on the front and a trigger on the back should be standard, It would be nice to have backwards compatibility with the old one though, just to keep costs down.

[kraenk12]

There is a possibility they upgrade both before release imho!

[Soldierone]

I doubt the camera will get upgrade much. Those of us that bought it were always told "wait for VR."

Well we waited, if they honestly make the current PS4 camera useless, I won't be buying VR at all.

[DazaMc]

I think I'll trade in my Xbone straight away while it's still worth something, at least I'll still be able to play my friends on destiny when the cross platform multiplayer come around. I may as well put it towards something use full!

[Brugal]

Crops platform multiplayer between Xbox One and PlayStation 4 cool. Playststion VR at $399 even cooler. Stay thirsty my friends.

[PaleMoonDeath]

Very dope.

[theshredded]

Wow! I'm saving as much as I can right now, sad that some games will be sacrificed but I'm more excited for PSVR sunce offers a new experience and not just some graphics upgrades like most games

[Lionalliance]

Ya still need to buy a PS Camera and a move controller separately, but still a great price for those who already have it!

[NotanotherReboot]

Ummm, Sony, 400 dollars should equate to around 300, NOT 350 pounds

[Aenea]

What's the UK VAT rate? You should add that to the price...

[NotanotherReboot]

20 percent. 400 dollars into pounds is around 280, add the 56 that's 336, so 14 extra from no where!! I could buy a new game with that

[TrollityTroll]

20% of £280 is £28?
Dude, try a calculator ...

[Aenea]

20% of 280 is 56, so that's only 14 extra....

And no, you can't buy a new game with that ;) Well, an Indie game....

[NotanotherReboot]

agreed

[joeorc]

https://tctechcrunch2011.fi...

[its_JEFF]

So $399 without the camera or move controllers...

Get out there and pick up your PS Cameras and Move controllers today! Cause they're dirt cheap ATM, who knows if the prices will go up later this year. Does anyone know if Sony will be releasing an updated move controller?

[Aenea]

Camera: yes

PS Moves: ehmm, well, am sure they won't be used by all the games and who knows they might announce new ones?

[its_JEFF]

It's possible... it could also be pricier than the current move controllers.

Someone asked Andy House why didn't include the camera, his response was the they felt quite a few current PS4 owners already had them.

I was hoping they would also debut a new "move" controller, but maybe in the future.

[Der_Kommandant]

Another jab to Microsoft

[amiga-man]

More an uppercut I would say.

[Der_Kommandant]

More like this

http://i.imgur.com/obe9jcH....

[amnalehu]

Very good prce point. For the price of one HTC Vive you can own 2 PSVR headsets!

[Tobsesan]

Good price for VR. But they should mention you still need to get headphones,move and the camera.

[MasterCornholio]

You don't need move and it comes with headphones.

Also any regular 3.5 mm headset will do.

[kraenk12]

Does it really?!

[AgentSmithPS4]

I've heard PSVR has fancy 3D audio but do you need fancy headphones to use that or will the included earbuds be fine?

[MilkMan]

Price tag is good not great for a piece of technology unproven. However, it cannot be denied that Sony came way under its competitors. Let's wait and see what all this is about. I still have the Eye of Judgement collecting dust.

[joeorc]

The PSVR will operate at a constant 120hz refresh rate, a system level standard that is quite a bit higher than the 90hz offered by the Rift and Vive. This refresh rate is powering a 5.7″ OLED screen operating at 1920×1080.

Its proven!

Facebook
HTC
Samsung
LG
Apple
AMD
Intel
Nvidia
Valve
Amazon
Google
Crytek cry Engine
Epic: real engine
Unity 3D game engine
Etc.

These companies all have direct involvement into VR

Hell AMD new VR/AR combo headset Comes with windows 10 OS

And this is without even including Sony & you think VR is unproven?

[MilkMan]

yes. Consumers will dictate whether a a piece of tech is needed. A piece of hardware around your head is going to be a ridiculously hard sell.

[hells_supernova]

Sony have smashed it! PSVR is going to be huge

[Skankinruby]

If that abomination Trump gets elected to the white house this will be a great way to escape for awhile

[Germany7]

Off-topic dude, btw, Donald Trump for president!

[Butters360]

Extremely competitive price.

[joeorc]

@Butters360 + 2m ago
"Extremely competitive price."

While it really is, I was looking for the price to be $299.00, but there is a free game included, and there will most likely be bundles at the fall so the price could be $350.00 by the fall shopping seasonal Christmas shopping season. But vs the other VR systems its really a great price.

[Butters360]

It's competitive because Shuhei Yoshida said long before that they would price PSVR like a new console, which they did. It's the same launch price as the PS4 was when it came out.

[Xavior_Reigns]

Day UNO. It pays to have a real job.

[Shonuff]

I saw the price for the PSVR. I was wondering if this includes everything needed. I heard you need the Playstation camera for the PSVR. Why do you need the camera if other VR don't require a camera. Can someone please answer this for me?

[joeorc]

Well yes and no you do not need such for cinematic play, but the reason is position persitant placement of your position, that's why it can track your position of your head in 360 degrees due to the 9 LEDs..without it "presence" position is not a function that a VR headset would have unless it has such external sensor or camera tracking.

It would still work without a camera , but no prrsitance placement presence inside the VR environment.

[IRetrouk]

it uses lights on top of gyros to track your head, gyros do some work, lights do some work, both work together.

[pwnsause_returns]

Yes the camera is required.

[joeorc]

@pwnsause_returns + 21m ago
"Yes the camera is required."

Again, the unit will operate without the camera..example cinematic mode for example or games made without placement tracking, like those gearVR headset games & Apps.

The external camera is for tracking and persistent placement tracking of your heads position in the VR space. Not all VR games will have to use such. Yes it provides benefits if you have such functional placement tracking in your game VR for "more presence in a VR game"

[pwnsause_returns]

You're going to need the camera either way if you want to do the meat and potatoes of the thing, which is vr. So yes. You need the camera, otherwise, what's the point in buying it. Get the camera now while it's cheap.

[Butters360]

The PS Camera does the same thing the PS Eye was designed to do, which is to use for tracking. That's what the lights are for, the gyro. You don't need a headset either because the PS Camera itself has a microphone.

[waltyftm]

Unbelievable price, this has just pushed me over the edge, i must own a PS4 and PSVR this October.

[teo72]

I think Sony just won the fight for VR dominans. Prepaying my PSVR as soon as possible

[zodiac909]

WOW thats pretty much a steal at that price point.

[WeAreLegion]

PSVR party at my place! You're all invited!

[blakeamanda2005]

The debate whether or not the price is high/low is irrelevant. If it's amazing then $399 doesn't look bad, if it adds to the experience like 3D then it will fade in the distance.

[SpeakTruthAlways]

Awesome price, amazing job Sony.

[Izalith]

See many people complaining about the pricepoint. In my country for me to build a VR ready pc for oculus rift will cost me around 3000$ for the whole experience.

You get for 1000$ a PS4, PSVR, camera, some games thrown up on order. It's a steal really.

I already saved around 800$ for PS VR, now I can order like 10 games extra with PS VR. Already have 2 PS Move controller, nunchuck and the camera for PS4.

399 USD as I predicted long time ago.

[Gaming4Life1981]

So glad sony was smart about the pricing for this device. This is a buy for me for sure.

[cfc83]

Interesting price point. By the way it's not just some expensive add on. It's something that has the potential to add another dimension to the gaming experience. I'm not saying yes or no at this point. E3 will be very interesting.

[Butters360]

I sure do love to laugh at the people complaining about PSVR not coming with the PS Camera. It's still cheaper than the competition.

[WickedLester]

It's not just about the price though. It's also about product confusion. The PS VR is already an accessory to the PS4. Without including the camera you're asking consumers to not only purchase a separate accessory for the PS4 but to also purchase a separate accessory FOR the accessory for the PS4. It's going to create a lot of confusion among consumers and I can tell you right now there's going to be a lot of pissed off people who get home with the PS VR and realize they don't have everything they need to make it work.

[Butters360]

There's no confusion, the price is set. The PS Camera was marketed towards new users when the PS4 first came out. If you wanted one you got one, it also sold through a lot and was hard to find. PS4's back in the day, were given a store credit for the camera.

There's more confusion for Rift and Vive because not only to you have to factor in price, you have to factor in your pc specs. I much rather tell a customer that they need this approx. $45 PS Camera as well, than to ask them if their specs are up to snuff.

[Austin48]

Too expensive for something that won't last long no thanks.

[neocores]

really guys? The playstaion camera right now u can get it for 30$ on sale

[sAVAge_bEaST]

I'm sure stores will bundle the Camera and a Game, for $450.

[Butters360]

People bitching for nothing. Gamestop packed my PS Camera for free when I bought my PS4 during launch. Nothing stopping Gamestop from doing it again.

[WickedLester]

It's not really 399.99. It's 450.00 because you have to have the camera to make it work and that's not packed in.

[captainexplosion]

I will get it no matter what, but I was hoping for 3D bluray support and for some non VR games to be 3D if playing with the headset. I was also hoping they would have something more advanced than the move controller. A Wii Nunchuk shaped controller (with a joy stick) for each hand would be far more practical.

[captainexplosion]

So what else do you need? A PS Camera, two move controllers, and a Move nunchuk thing?

[Butters360]

Just the camera since it's used for tracking. You're DS4 is enough. Certain games through like London Heist encourage you to use Move, but it's not required.

[captainexplosion]

I want to aim to shoot though. Or swing or hit to use a lightsaber or melee. I don't want to use the DS4. To me, using a standard controller is not VR.

[Butters360]

If you want to physically aim then yeah, you'll need a Move controller. When I used it at PSX, I only used the move controller for Job Simulator.

[cabinotier]

if you pay $60 (actually under $50) more, you get neck.
if you pay $50 or $100 (actually $30 or $60) more, you get a hand or two.

[AgentSmithPS4]

"I want to aim to shoot though. Or swing or hit to use a lightsaber or melee. I don't want to use the DS4. To me, using a standard controller is not VR."

You're goddamn right. I've played many light gun games in arcades and the Move controllers will make it happen on PSVR. I want to experience awesome melee combat too, not just swords but bats, morning stars, maces, etc. With the hours I'll be playing I might have to build a crutch for my arm though ;). I'm going to buy the best bundle I can find, and I assume they'll let you choose the game you want with it.

[Stapleface]

Didn't have the accessories from not having a ps3, nor did I have a camera for the ps4. After ordering those the total still sits where I expected the headset to cost alone. No complaints here.

[Butters360]

Exactly, even if you add up the cost from 2 Move controllers and the PS Camera along with the PSVR, it's still cheaper.

[Rhythmattic]

Btw, what are Move control style options available for Vive and Oculous?
Are they expensive? Are the included in the headset price?
I know Oculus comes with a 360 controller yes but what about motion controls?

;)

[_LarZen_]

The console war is over. And now it seams like the VR war is over before it even began...

[PaleMoonDeath]

Wasn't expecting it to be priced like that due to the others, very, very interesting.. if the games are worth while, I might actually get it day one.

[Undini]

My question is can I play any game with this? I mean like a big screen?

[LetoAtreides82]

Yes it has a feature called cinema mode, it's essentially an alternative screen for your PS4.

[Artemidorus]

.

[opinionated]

399 is about what I expected. That sounds reasonable but I've known about this thing for years and still don't know of a single game. Until dawn railshooter ans tech demos. There needs to be some amazing stuff before I drop 400 beans. October release for Halloween could make for a sick launch window. Show me the money.

[Artemidorus]

"if you don’t have a PlayStation Camera, you’ll have to add it to the cost of your investment in PlayStation VR, as it’ll be required, but it won’t be included in the package".

I take back my last comment, they are demanding 349 plus tbe price of a camera if you don't own one.

That's not great.

[kingPoS]

NAMCO! Bring it back! Giive it online co-op with up to four players! I don't care if the plot is campy as f***! It doesn't even have to be a vr only tittle.

Give us the light gun game my ps4 deserves! (lol)

Give us... Time Crisis.

Gateway MT5706 2008

[Onenyte]

My advice is ......

GET TO YOUR LOCAL GAME STORE NOW AND GET THOES MOVE CONTROLLERS , BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!!

[kingPoS]

Got my second one at gamestop for $10 last year. I wouldn't be surprised to find costs $20 by next week.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[ironmonkey]

done where can i pre order!

[NeoGamer232]

Sony had a good strategy waiting for the others to say their price. It makes PSVR look cheap.

But in reality it is more than a console and the most expensive add-on ever created for a console.

I'm passing on the whole VR thing for now. I bought Oculus devt kit a year and a half ago. It now sits on my shelf. VR has a lot of issues to resolve before I jump in.

[d4v0333]

This is great news! I can finally preorder a VR that does not make my wallet cry too much. Hopefully then later I can save some money and buy Oculus or Vive. Did they say when we can preorder?

[DOOMZ]

So other than price, whats the difference between the Sony VR & the suposedly higher end compedators?

[MachuchalBrotha316]

Thank you Sony for great price. I will definitely be a early adopter of PSVR.

[Orionsangel]

It's not expensive! I'm buying five of them! Hahaha!!! Blablabla! Here come the price is perfect people. It's the same price as a console for VR goggles. I'll buy it! I'm part of the VR hype machine and you must too! Because I can afford it you can too. Don't ruin this for me poor people and unemployed people! My selfish VR dreams must be your dreams! Meh!

[ocelot07]

Price is a tiny bit over what I was hoping for (£300). But will be waiting a week or so after launch. See what the reviews and the games are like for it. I will then buy if the games and reviews are decent.

[Hitoemi]

Well that thing will be DOA. No add on has ever sold well at or above the price of the base tech it adds features to.

[BKsecret]

It's $549 in Canada :(
Damn currency exchange...

[SaveMeJebus]

It's gonna be Yuuuuge!

[madpuppy]

I guess I'll go pre-order it and throw a few bucks toward it each week.

[blakstarz]

NICE! I'm cool with that price....

[Ninver]

The price is right.

[MagicBeanz]

Well now we know. I dont want one but it looks like a win for Sony regardless, and a good deal for those who are interested.

[kevinsheeks]

Sony is making a comeback . . .what a time to be aliveeeeeeeeeeee . . .

wait is it a comeback if they started off dominating . . .O.o

[Scatpants]

They did this perfectly. It's cheap enough that I will get this in addition to Oculus and it comes out late enough that I can save some money to buy it after I get the Oculus.

[Ninte]

It's$629 nz

[josephayal]

want

[lastking95]

Not trying to sound like a hater but $400+ price of the camera <$500 total seem too steep. VR gonna flop. I'll take my words back if psvr sales over 6-8 million.

[Ninte]

And buying a Playstation is over $500 so someone tell me how the price is right for new Zealand

[Rhythmattic]

Question,
how much was the PS4 on release in NZ?

In Oz it was $549 which is what the PSVR is on release here.

[MasterofMagnetism]

I'm down with that price. I might actually get one now if the games are good.

[Germany7]

Day one for me.

[PiperMCFierceson]

I hope it doesn't fall to the same fate the vita suffered. I ended up giving my vita to a friend going away for college.

[Yetter]

wow is this place ever a bubble. Everywhere else on the internet, massive skepticism, but not at N4G. Its a peripheral that costs more than the console, and that assumes you already have the PS Camera (which apparently is not included in this package but is required).

[Germany7]

Everywhere else on the internet? Where exactly?
Never mind, judging by your comments, you are a MS fanboy, lol.

[emerica2214]

That's too much for me. I was thinking it would be around $59.99 like a game.

[s45gr32]

Why it would be $60.00. Damn what do you think VR is????

[jamstorr86]

you are an idiot

[Steptoe]

My kids will be happy. Definitely getting one for christmas. Good job Sony.

[jamstorr86]

May wanna rethink that, I believe you have to be older than 12 to use any of the VR headsets. Might be something to do with the stage in which your eyes are developing at that age

[Legendary-Status]

man playing UC4 FF15 KH3 GOW4 in this is immersive man this is gon sell well im hype and most def. Getting one believe that you get they iMAX Experience SONY hit it Out they Park

[s45gr32]

Price wise Sony wins quality wise I am not sure. If the Vive offers a vr experience close to Sword Art Online. Then the Vive wins; however, if both the Vive and PS VR differences are hardly noticeable, then PSVR wins.

[joeorc]

s45gr32 + 7h ago
Price wise Sony wins quality wise I am not sure. If the Vive offers a vr experience close to Sword Art Online. Then the Vive wins; however, if both the Vive and PS VR differences are hardly noticeable, then PSVR wins.

Its not that far away from each headset. Not really that much to matter due to the only thing is exclusives will show some higher gap difference, as always it does, but in the case of third party many of the games will appear on all three of the game centric VR headsets. So the fact is PSVR is not a headset that is like base entry of say mobile phone entry level VR, its between gearVR and OculusRift.. With the PS4 VR quality wise is d@rn near par aside from resolution total output. Put it this way its still high enough quality where majority will see it as pretty close or near the same gaming experience on all three VR setups.

[s45gr32]

That's what I am afraid of, that the PS VR is slightly better than Gear VR (is 👍 has good head tracking movement). LG or Google come out with VR headsets on par to what Sony offers....
I am skeptical about third party games running the same on all three vr setups due to both Oculus/Vive offer higher resolutions, higher framerates and in case of the vive the user is able to walk in the virtual world.....

[JMyers]

Sold. Preordering as soon as possible.

[jcnba28]

Off course it's the cheapest, it's the weakest out of all the VR headsets.

[Hurfs]

Got to say the one thing that is putting me off VR for my PS4 is all the cables for the damn thing. I have two kids one is only two years old and there is no way in hell I could play VR games with her around.

One of the best thing that ever happened to console's was wireless play! now I might have to go back to wired. :(

Oh and the fact my kids will not be able to play and use it as well. why is it no under 12's.......

But still think I may get one (or maybe a rift) just not at launch.

[mixelon]

Hmm, to be fair once you're wearing a headset you're completely cut off from the outside world anyway, so the wires are less of an issue to parenting than the fact that you're sat there completely dead to the world. :D eg: you're unlikely to be playing it in front of your kid much.

You'd just have to unplug it or plop it up on a shelf when it's not in use? (My dk2 lives on a shelf above the display.)

The reason for the no under 12s thing is probably as its really important for convincing 3D and not getting eyestrain/motion sickness that the headset's inter-pupillary distance is correct. With young kids their eyes are so much closer together that the lenses probably can't calibrate to their head size. I've let kids use my dk2 and they, on average get much, much more motion sick than adults. :( (you just have to go with the nearest setting for them as it won't go small enough) I also suspect it's a safety thing, as the long term effects of VR on developing eyes haven't been studied so it's better if they just outright warn against it, like Nintendo did with 3D on the 3DS. I can definitely see overuse of VR giving some kids things like (possibly temporary) double vision or other issues.. I've had temporary negative effects my self from a couple of weeks binging when I first got it.. My depth perception went crazy, I had screen-door "burnt" into my vision and it took more than a week to go back to normal. Pretty weird.

[jamstorr86]

The biggest Issue I can see is that in a year or two, when the PC VR releases are greatly surpassing the PS4 offerings, is that the PSVR will feel like sub-par VR tech. They are already releasing a VR headset that doesn't stand up to the technical offerings provided by the Rift and Vive, and the games are gunna be held back by the PS4 when compared to the PC. then consider that the majority of VR games will be multiplatform in order to reach the wider number of consumers, i think the better long term investment would be to go for a PC based VR headset.

[Relientk77]

Great price and great release window. Playstation VR this year's hottest Christmas gift

[mixelon]

I don't see any winners in the VR space as the PS headset caters to different things than the OR or Vive.. People will buy what they want, but the open nature of PC VR has some pretty massive advantages.

Contemplating getting PSVR - depending entirely on the software lineup. Will also get Rift CV2 in a year or two. (Have a dk2 atm)

Really looking forward to them upping the display resolution though, 1080p isn't great when it's right next to your eyes. :/

[okmrman]

Great
This will create even more antisocial issues

Imagine being in your house with a vr headset on all day, with your wife and kids running around lol

[GamerFrank85]

Great price at 399. Ps4 Psvr bundles maybe?

[lokirevamped]

I would love to see a CSI style game that works with this.

[corroios]

Sony is doing evertything right this gen. I never believe in a price like this and so many games from october to the end of the year.

[Coachkeys]

Good price for VR but I'll wait. VR has been attempted numerous times and I want to see if technology has finally revealed it's true potential or not. The motion control war from last gen comes to mind.

[MattE]

Why don't you all just grab the superior Oculus.. You can then use it with the PC you all built to play Quantum Break and all the other MS exclusives on in 4K / 60fps ?? Makes more sense than this budget job

[d4v0333]

Try little harder next time. Plus not everyone has the money to shell out for a 4K Oculus ready PC which will cost thousands of dollar with the Oculus included. PSVR is a very good quality product and can compete with Oculus and Vive with no issues. Yes it might have slight lower specs then Oculus and Vive but it is still great as I have tried it multiple times and I have been surprised by it every time I tried. PS4 and PSVR are the cheapest options that will also do a phenomenal job at it. I will be waiting for Oculus or Vive to drop price before I purchase them and I need to upgrade my PC as well.

[Germany7]

But, i don't want to beg for the best games...

[DJStotty]

For me oculus or VIVE would be the cheapest option.

As a none PS4 owner I would need

1 PS4 - £250-300
1 psvr - £350

So about 650 - 700 pound

Oculus 400 - 500 pound

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/...

[d4v0333]

But does your PC support the Oculus or VIVE? Cause if it does not then your cheapest option would be the PS4 + PSVR.

[DJStotty]

Just downloaded the test and it is rift ready 😊 might still wait a while. Not really a necessity for me but is interesting tech.

[d4v0333]

I don't know if you have tried any of the VRs before but they are just amazing. I tried them multiple times and been wowed every time I tried them. I would definitely recommend you picking one up or at least try it once before they come out or after they come out to see if you like them. I am definitely getting the PSVR as it is the cheapest option for me as I have everything besides the PSVR and the camera. I also wanted to get Oculus Rift but that will cost me a lot of money. I have to upgrade my card which will 600+ and I have to buy Oculus which is another 600 so in total is $1200+. However, I will be definitely buying either Oculus or Vive down the road when the drop in price. Again I encourage you to try one of the VRs as they are pretty amazing.

[DJStotty]

They do look really intriguing and yeah PC's are an expensive hobby lol. I will have to give one of them a whirl and see which I like best before making a decision.

[d4v0333]

Anyone know when we can preorder in the US? I know it is live in Europe already but what about the US?

[InTheZoneAC]

If you somehow didn't know already, this is PS Move: Phase 2 and Phase 3 will be introduced after PS5

[SynestheticRoar]

Now you know PSVR ftw.

[MasterD919]

I know people are frothing at the mouth, but this is the same price as a new console for a peripheral device. Plus, if you don’t have a PlayStation Camera, you’ll have to add it to the cost. It won’t be included in the package and is required.