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How it Works: SingStar PS2-PS3 compatibility

Official PlayStation.Blog:

Hey everyone, just wanted to give you a quick update on some recent SingStar news. Yesterday we announced that SingStar PS3 Vol. 2 will be coming to the U.S. this October. You can check out the full details on SingStar PS3 Vol.2, as well get the latest on today's SingStore update at IGN.

Coming out of Leipzig, you may have read about a cool new SingStar PS3 disc swap feature which incorporates the SingStar PS2 library. We wanted to make sure everyone was up to speed on what the disc feature entailed, so here's the lowdown from the SingStar development team:

SingStar track compatibility across PS2 & PS3 is enabled via the Disc Swap feature.

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gamesR4fun5729d ago

always suspected it sigh bad bad money grubbing sony
but this is cool cause we have tons of ps2 singstar stuff and while the disks do work fine on our 60 gig it be nice to use some of the new options on the old ones...

anh_duong5729d ago (Edited 5729d ago )

what are you talking about?

how can this be money grabbing if sony lets you use your existing ps2 singstar music??

ps3 singstar is merely reading the song data files on the ps2 singstar disc ... it isn't playing ps2 singstar discs in emulation mode..

jeez some people

PikkonX5729d ago

Since PS2 games are DVDs, all it's doing is reading the data on the disc and decoding it in a certain way so that the PS3 game knows what to do with it. Not much different from any other DVD you put into the system. It doesn't mean that 40GB models have the ability to play PS2 titles. Your normal PC DVD drive can also get the files off any PS2 disc.

hay5729d ago

@PikkonX: True but could be still sweet background for some exploit.

rroded5729d ago (Edited 5729d ago )

just thinking that there's no real reason every ps3 cant play ps2 games other than cash...
n ya this is good news if it means i can do a recording off one of my old ps2 singstar disks but not a big deal since i can already play them all in my 60gigPS3. Loading em on the hd woulda been the best tho since theres only a few songs on each disk we like we could really streamline our singstar experience.
While Im here anyone know if the American songlist is ever going to catch up to the Uk one?

crck5729d ago (Edited 5729d ago )

Sony would have to work on each game individually to get PS2 games to work on the bc less ps3s. So yes maybe they got Singstar to work on PS3's. It doesn't mean they are going to waste tons of man hours trying to get each individual PS2 game to work on those PS3s.

And calling Sony money grubbing at this point is a bit ridiculous. They have given gamers a ton of stuff for free compared to other companies. They make almost nothing on peripherals any more because very little of it is proprietary. They could have milked people on PS3 branded hard drives, memory cards, play and charge kits and A/V cables but they decided not to unlike their main competitor.

rroded5729d ago

crck tho im pretty sure they could make a patch that would make most ps2 games compatible and not have to rework every ps2 title induvidually to fit. I can understand your point about the adaptability of the ps3 but I doubt the decision was made out of goodwill alone. Sony needs every edge it can find in this market which is good news for us lucky ps3 owners eh.

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Raoh5729d ago

i'm more interested in how the hacking community will try to open this up to exploit possibly disc swapping for copied games..

FantasyStar5729d ago (Edited 5729d ago )

You know, it's not always about piracy when it comes hacking consoles. It just begins with playing copied games. Brief history.

First you hack the console to run unsigned code. Being able to play copied games is the first successful sign. (hello world)

Second you write a software that makes running unsigned code easy to do (ala Twilight Hack & burned DVDs as storage mediums for homebrew content)

Third you spread the open-code to the scene community by which they make software to entertain your console. (Homebrew Channel) (Running Linux) (Enabling more codec support)

Lastly you profit from the fact you can do more with your system now than ever before. Enabling copied games to be played is only the first step towards homebrew, but unfortunately the masses only look at the copied-games and not the whole picture. A pity really. I have the homebrew channel on my Wii and I've gotta tell you, my Wii has more codec support than the PS3 & 360 combined.

Darkiewonder5729d ago

Sounds good but it would have been better if they allowed the songs to be exported to the Hard drive.

So is this software based or are they ROM dumping the file or is there hardware to read ps2 disc [for non-BC ps3]

very interesting.

beast5729d ago

Is there a way to play PAL Bollywood singstar edition in my U.S PS3. Please will provide bubbles

Harry1905729d ago

PAL won't ever play on an NTSC console unless we get a new hack or new codebreaker type of software.

dirtrider5729d ago

that was the before preggy brittany. :)

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Sony PS2 Hit SingStar Was Originally an Action-RPG

IGN India says: “ Interior Night’s Charu Desodt on bringing Singstar to life on the PS2, winning a BAFTA, and upcoming Xbox Series X|S and PC game, As Dusk Falls.”

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RIP Singstar, One Of The Most Important Games In PlayStation History

This may come as a bit of a shock to Americans, since it never really took hold in the US, but Singstar was one of the most important series ever released on a Sony console. And in January 2020, after 15 years of PlayStation karaoke, it’s finally going to be shuffled off the stage.

ApocalypseShadow1633d ago

This game could live on as a VR game. Karaoke as different created characters or franchise characters from other games. Sing as Kratos or Nathan Drake or Parappa the Rapper, etc and post to social media if you're into that internet thing. Would be funny. And interesting if you had individuals who could really sing. Alloy becomes a virtual singing idol.

Sounds crazy but it's creative for VR. And you could use Dreams to create your backgrounds and music videos. I don't really sing but don't think they should give up on Singstar.

RememberThe3571632d ago

I think your last point might be a big one. Who needs SingStar when Dreams is coming out?

timotim1633d ago

So if you invested potentially hundreds of dollars in the game with DLC songs, will all of it continue to work or are you just SOL now?

rainslacker1632d ago

It'll still work. You just won't have the online features. The game can be played locally either singing together, or competing against one another, and is generally considered a pretty good party game....if you go to parties where karaoke is a thing at least. It basically doubles as a karaoke machine.

I'm not into karaoke, and you'll just have to trust me that anyone would be happy that I don't try to sing publicly, or even privately among friends. But, I've been to parties where people are having fun with it, and it's about as hit or miss as going to a karaoke bar....without the one girl who wants to sing Shania twain songs, yet can't carry a tune, or hit a high note without your pet cat committing ritual suicide.....most of the time anyways.

JonTheGod1633d ago

I loved SingStar but it hasn't been supported most of this gen. It had a half-hearted revival with a couple of discs but very little of the PS3 library transitioned across. I will probably keep my PS3 just for SingStar when PS5 comes out.

PhoenixUp1632d ago

Many of Sony’s casual franchises are falling by the wayside

rainslacker1632d ago

SingStar was huge in the US. Where did the idea that it wasn't popular in the US come from? It wasn't a hardcore game, so the hardcore gaming community never really noticed it much, but the game was a huge money maker for Sony.

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Sony Is Shutting Down SingStar And Driveclub Servers In 2020

Sony is shutting down online servers for SingStar and Driveclub in early 2020.

Yi-Long1636d ago

Extremely disappointing how Sony has treated one of its best exclusives this generation. Love Driveclub. Such a shame it never received the love, attention and respect it deserved from Sony, post-launch.

Brave_Losers_Unite1636d ago

What is it that you want Sony to do with it exactly post launch?

Obscure_Observer1636d ago

@Brave_Losers_Unite

A PS4 Pro patch would be nice. Same goes to Bloodborne.

jukins1636d ago

@Obsucre the team was on the way to being closed and barely finished driveclub vr. A ps4 pro patch was asking to much

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darthv721636d ago

That reminds me, i need to get the motorcycle expansion before it gets removed. I already got all the free dlc but that one is paid and I forgot about it.

DC is such a well made game. I'm so surprised Sony would let the devs slip right through their fingers. Motorstorm deserved a PS4 follow-up.

Skate-AK1636d ago

Bikes, along with the two or three paid DLC's got removed in August. Even though the DLC was cars, they had to put it under bikes because of trophy amount requirements. Can only get Bikes by buying a physical copy.

SierraGuy1635d ago

Physical copies may be worth something someday 🙆

KickSpinFilter1636d ago

Ya Driveclub turned out to be so dang amazing. Bummer this won't continue online. But SP lives on!

jukins1636d ago

What? It was broken on launch delayed an entire year had one of the best season passes ever new tracks new cars added streetbikes but it never received the love post launch?

rainslacker1635d ago

I think he means that the gaming press and community in general didn't show it any love post launch. I mean, you see broken games that people rave about how it's awesome they got fixed and get lots of articles about it, but you didn't really see that with DC, despite the launch issues being only trivial annoyance to one aspect of game play which offered up challenges to the player....and I guess online racing. Took like a month to fix, but the game was doomed to be neglected due to the console wars, and people moving on, and ultimately, was probably a big reason that Sony closed the studio, because they were having financial difficulties at the time, and had to make decisions based on sales.

rainslacker1635d ago (Edited 1635d ago )

I thought SingStar was one of their more successful franchises. I know during the PS3 days it was pretty popular. No one around here ever talked about it, but I know a lot of people who I wouldn't classify as gamers who were into it.

DCVR is amazing. Removes my biggest complaint about driving games, which is that 2D makes it hard to tell where you are in the corners to know when to turn. With VR, I can drive like I would a real car....assuming I actually drove that fast, and staying in lanes, and actually racing is so much more fun.

Makes me wish that GT:S had a full on VR mode for every race mode. I'd take the graphics hit to be able to race more than one car, on a mode that gives practically no progression.

Bikes is also fantastic.

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masterfox1636d ago

everyone can make mistakes and definitely Sony made one by letting to die Driveclub, if you didn't know is still best looking racing game out-there , not only looks heavenly stunning but plays awesome as well, not sure how hard affected Sony to take such decision but for what we know is a very bad decision taken.

iplay1up21636d ago (Edited 1636d ago )

No, Horizon 4, and Forza Motorsport 7 absolutely look better than Drive Club. They are also Xbox One X enhanced and run in 4K.

IRetrouk1636d ago (Edited 1636d ago )

I play all 3, driveclub still looks better, from cars to graphical effects, understandable because horizon 4 is open world, as for forza 7, while it looks good, it still dont top driveclub, neither does gt sport for that matter, or project cars, or need for speed.

FanboySpotter1635d ago

As someone that still plays driveclub, forza horizon 4 is leaps above all. Free roaming with that fidelity or 60fps? Sweet jesus

rainslacker1635d ago (Edited 1635d ago )

DC both looks better, and drives better than either version of Forza. Forza has better competitor driver AI though.

I really love FH4, but I still think that DC looks and plays better.

jukins1636d ago

Please explain how sony let it die. They gave them an entire extra year to fix still promoted it even though the launch was broken had tons of content and still has lasted almost the entire gen. It's obvious you dont even play it online because even the ps plus version tracks barely can get more than 4 or 5 people let alone the full game. You act like thousands are still getting online everyday and sony just doesnt care

JackBNimble1635d ago

Last time I played was a few months ago and couldn't fine other players online .
I was playing sp because no one else was there.

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dragonyght1635d ago

it wasn't really Sony the game receive a lot of post launch content. Driveclub got crucify for not being forza horizon.

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TGG_overlord1636d ago

I can only agree with Yi-Long and masterfox...Sony just made a HUGE blunder with no doubt.

MasterCornholio1636d ago

Don't really care about SingStar but alot of people liked Driveclub.

rainslacker1635d ago

I'd say a lot of people like SingStar as well. It was one of Sony's top selling games last gen. Plus, it had tons of content DLC/MT. It was a GaaS game, and was quite popular among the casuals. Basically just a karaoke game, which was fun at parties....for better or worse depending on your thoughts about karaoke at parties.

I guess the game has fallen off people's radar though, because it's hard to imagine Sony would drop it if it was still generating significant revenue like it used to.

monkey6021636d ago

I adore DriveClub and I've been playing It a lot the last couple months. I even just got Platinum in both DriveClub and DriveClub bikes this week. But the multiplayer in both is absolutely baron. There's no matches on either to play online. You need to arrange online meet ups

Doomeduk1636d ago

You'll still find a few of us still racing online on an evening fella and when I fired it up last week I had a couple of full lobbies.
Just needed a pro upgrade to 60 fps instead of the VR version and I think it would still be going strong now
I remember a few months before the devs were shutdown they talking about adding tire deformation and a few other things.. Damn shame

rainslacker1635d ago

I thought the VR version was awesome. Plus, it was it's own thing, and shouldn't have interfered with a PS4P update. the lack of update was likely due to the studio being shut down though.

jukins1636d ago

Thank you this is what people dont understand no one is playing online. All these fake supporters but they dont even play it. I'll join a race and it will cycle about 10 races before I actually find ONE other person

Yi-Long1635d ago

They could have kept the leaderboards up at least.

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