Bethesda’s Fallout 4 Season Pass Price Hike Sets A Horrible Precedent For DLC Sales

Hey Poor Player's Francis DiPersio writes - "While we’re not quite ready to call “Horse Armor” just yet, Bethesda’s Fallout 4 DLC plans seem like a raw deal for their fans."

[derkasan]

Hopefully this doesn't set a trend.

[dead_pixels]

Here's hoping. Dying Light did something similar ahead of The Following's release, but when you consider Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced Edition retails for 60 bucks and includes the core game, DLC and a host of improvements compared to Fallout's $60 price tag and potentially $50 DLC cost, there's almost no comparison. It seems like a cash grab.

[TwoForce]

Well, I disagree with you. Dying Light used this tactic and people didn't realize that other developers follow this BS.

[ifistbrowni]

so, if you have an issue with the $50 Season pass, buy it when it's $30.

I originally planned to wait for the DLC to release to buy the $30 season Pass. But, since bethesda is pulling this crap, I'm going to buy the season pass before the price hikes.

You win, Bethesda. You win. Though, I seriously doubt they're raising the price now to ensure people buy it at the $30 mark. I think they're sending this out as a "heads up" for people like me who planned to wait and buy the season pass when all items are released.

[Anthotis]

Sounds like they put as much effort into the cut content pass as they did the main last gen game.

[thekhurg]

It's Bethesda. This should not have come as a surprise to anyone.

[b163o1]

@ifistbrowni

Totally agree, you still have until the first of March to take advantage of the offer. Just judging off of Skyrim's DLC it'll be a no brainer.

[Silly Mammo]

Well I fell for it and got the Season Pass at $30. I figured the story DLC retails at $25 so it was worth it.

[badz149]

Wow...so much hypocrisy in this section. $50 season pass? Hmm...where the fvck did I hear that before? Oh yeah...SW Battlefront! Seriously, why are some of u guys here trying to justify this when most totally flipped out and up in arms when EA did it? Not that I'm saying one is better than the other but this is double standards when they are equally as bad! $50 season pass is unacceptable no matter what and no matter who does it!

Milking in gaming has taken the turn for the worst! In the future, this gen should be remembered as the gen that introduced $50 season passes!

[ifistbrowni]

Why are people disagreeing with folks who say they're buying the DLC for $30 before the price hikes? I'm guessing you guys must think the DLC is worth $50 since that will be the only alternative?

No thanks. I think I'll get the same content for $30 over waiting a month and getting the content for $50. That way, theres no harm no foul. The only people who are going to be affected by this are the people that wait until after March 1st to buy the season pass.

Even when Sony/Microsoft do 50% off beyond March 1st, the season pass will be $25. Again, I think I'll just buy it for $30 right now instead of waiting for a sale to save $5. BTW, Season passes almost never go on sale for any game. The only Season Pass sales I ever see on PSN are the base game+season pass bundle, which almost always is more expensive than the season pass by itself (but is always an awesome value for newcomers).

Anyways, I just don't understand the disagrees. I guess you guys would rather us wait and pay $50.

The only other option is to not buy it at all out of spite. But, since I originally planned to buy it (since the launch of the game), this would be redundant. Plus, not buying things out of spite is something I'll leave for the children of the gaming community.

[MilkMan]

It already has.

[xPhearR3dx]

As long as the content and quality justifies the price increase, I'm okay with it. Plus, they're still giving us about 2 weeks to get it at $30 compared to $50.

DLC isn't a problem, low quality cash grab and content rips are the problem. A perfect example would be Battlefronts Season Pass.

[pivotplease]

But what if this is just a motivation tactic. Then it's no different from using pre-order bonuses to get people to buy a crappy game. The problem here is that you don't even have a rough idea of what the product is going to be since none of it has been released or even previewed. We only know about a handful of extra features (deathclaws, clothing, and building additions) that would have come for free anyway via the impending console mods. I won't buy this even at the reduced $40 CDN since I don't know what it is. I'll let it release and then go on sale if it interests me. Don't be a blind consumer.

[xPhearR3dx]

Ummm where did I say you HAVE to buy it right now. I even said "As long as the content and quality justifies the price increase, I'm okay with it". Obviously we won't know that information until it's all released. But once it's all released, if it feels like it's $50+ worth of content, then I'm okay that the price was raised.

I've supported Bethesda for many years, they haven't let me down with their DLC support so I'm personally okay with buying the Season Pass up front, because there's a very good chance based off my previous purchases it will be worth it.

[DoubleTTB22]

@ pivotplease

Did you just completely miss the announcement of Far Harbor? How did you even hear anything at all about the others without learning about it?

https://bethesda.net/#en/ev...

[BattleTorn]

Ya, giving gamers 2weeks notice of price increases, THAT'D SUCK

-___-

[Link2DaFutcha]

Right?! Honestly I'm excited about it, this means that there's going to be more story DLC and it'll be bigger, I'm all about it.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Hope you're being sarcastic because they're doing everyone a solid by even telling them weeks ahead of time that they could purchase it at a lesser price and still get the extra content there correct to change the price if they feel the content they're releasing justifies it.

I'm fine with most if not all DLC season pass prices if it justified such a price.

Sometimes people make it sound like its a rip off but the reality is if 20 years ago you told many of us gamers that we could pay something to get extra content I'm pretty sure most of us would say yes VS one installment and then wait years to play anything extra on the console front anyway.

I honestly can't complain as no one needs to purchase a season pass and also anyone could merely just wait and purchased the DLC separately based on what they personally like most times I find the people who complain about such things are just giving the classic whining crybaby firstworldproblems concept.

As if the best thing for them to do is give it all away for free and work for absolutely nothing /s

[SweatyFlorida]

Depends on people, unfortunately. While it'd be wise not to support this kind of thing (same thing for pre-order dlc bullshit which still gets supported despite people complaining about it 5-6 years back), the mass will still eat it up, which then creates a domino effect others will adopt(just like how season passes became a big and widespread thing start of this gen)

[Dasteru]

Hopefully it does set a trend. Games shouldn't be held back just to keep with the pricing of very early plans. They are adding additional DLC that wasn't originally planned for. Sure they could have kept the price at $29.99 but then we wouldn't be getting more than the 3 pieces of DLC they already announced.

[Chaosdreams]

I honestly hate people who are unable to use their brains.

[showtimefolks]

wait for game of the yea edition that's what i am doing same with witcher 3

oh and stop this talk of we didn't know what the dlc was gonna be. Every game in development has dlc planned and a separate team working o it

sometimes they cut the main game part to later sell as dlc

bethesda got away with making a game on 10 year old engine and they will get away with this too. Gamers have such a double standard when it comes to things like that

gamers will give benefit of the doubt to one developer but than complain about stuff like graphics and glitches on other games

get ready this is just the start. we the gamers don't want to pay $74.99 or 79.99 so developers have to do this to make money money. game development cost has gone up and up while the games still cost $59.99

there has to be mature conservation so we can move forward. games can't forever cost $59.99

i am more than willing to pay $74.99 if it means less season passes or dlc and a more complete bug free game

[ifistbrowni]

I'd gladly pay 74.99 (USD) also if it meant that we'd never see dlc.

[pumpactionpimp]

Name a game this gen that's been worth a 75-80 dollar price tag. Because I sure as hell haven't played one. If they want to raise prices, I'm all for it, so long as games come out that justify the cost.

Publishers/developers think they have everyone fooled this gen. With dlc, microtransactions, and season passes. Jokes on them, I've bought one game new this year, the rest were used, or heavily discounted goty editions.

[showtimefolks]

pumpactionpimp

witcher 3
bloodborne
tomb raider

just to name few

ifistbrowni

me too but developers will most likely double dip

[LamerTamer]

It will set a trend if we go for it. Everyone acts like we are powerless and when they do these things there is nothing we can do. They act like publishers put guns to their head and make them buy season passes and dlc. Well we can do nothing, as in buying nothing as far as these season passes or dlc.

[AsheXII]

A trend of what? beefy and substantial expansions? Shivering islands cost 30 bucks, the largest DLC in Fallout 4 will cost 25 bucks.

Who even writes these articles?

[Pocketaces111]

Love it people a company actually warns us and does something IMO honest and good and you still find a way to be negative... leave it to N4G people

If they were like every other company they would promise great content start at the $50 range and release crappy useless content.

They realized they are putting even more work then anticipated creating really great different content not in the original game. WARNING you of a price hick rewarding pro active people before the price hike giving everyone an opportunity to get in on it and you still complain.

[Chaosdreams]

Right because we need to be "warned" when they plan to slap us. So our options are, buy now and hope it works out or, tough luck? Some people wait for when the content is known/released before they buy. This is pressuring people to buy before they know what they will actually get or face a price hike because of "ambition."

Yeah, they are so kind and loving.

[Pocketaces111]

This is Bethesda they are the only ones who have every consistently except once given quality add on content they just announced way more then they originally thought for the content... priced it out and realized it was worth more (In stead of charging the guys that already paid for it more and split it into 2 season passes they did the right thing and say you win you get more for same price) ON TOP OF THAT they give everyone more time to buy it at lower price. If it was anyone else I would agree with you but they have a track record.

Otherwise again all Im really saying is don't whine buy it don't buy it speak with your wallet. You don't like what they are doing don't buy it. If they prove you wrong you pay more later but at least you didn't spend less earlier and potentially get disappointed.

[BuffaloDill]

I honestly don't have an issue with DLC prices. Games are cheaper than ever now, I'll gladly give my favorite developers/publishers more money for the things I love! I completely agree that the price hike is shifty though. Seems $50 will be the new set price for season passes now.

[itsjustexuma]

You should ask Canadians, Brazilians or Australians how cheap video games are in their countries

[RandomGamer]

Indeed here in Canada it's gotten rough add the 15% sales tax and it means I don't want to pay 50 bucks for a season pass after spending almost 100 dollars for the base game .

[JackBNimble]

We Canadians need to realize the our dollar is around $0.70 to the American dollar. We are still paying $50 American for the same dlc.

RandomGamer...where the hell do you live where you pay 15% sales tax. I am from Alberta, we only have the 5%gst.

[LostCypher11]

Jack, Alberta is the only place you going to find sales tax that low all the other proveniences have PST on top of the GST. soo that brings the total to 13% in ontario. resulting in games costing $90 before i even consider buying the seasons pass

[JackBNimble]

I understand that, after all I have lived in this country for 45 years.
I was asking him where he lived that sales tax is at %15.

[BuffaloDill]

Ok, you keep spending $90 for a video game, and I'll keep paying $270 a month on health insurance. "Statistical gathering agencies in both countries (Canada & America) publish averages of income taxes paid, but comparing the two numbers is like comparing the stats of a hockey player with those of a basketball player. The numbers are based on different premises and include different pieces."

[pivotplease]

It was 15% up until only a few years ago. He probably just forgot it got reduced? Unless there's some province with 15% still. I'm too lazy to google it.

@Buffalo Nope. Gas and alcohol are half the price in the states and that $3000 or so you spend a year is nothing compared to the easily $10000 plus most Canadians spend in inflated taxes. That and the healthcare isn't even completely free. People still have to pay for prescriptions,casts, crutches, etc. Maybe the prices are reduced, but it's not free.

[rdgneoz3]

"People still have to pay for prescriptions,casts, crutches, etc"

Even with health insurance in the US you still have to pay for prescriptions or crutches (though at a reduced cost), though I've never heard of paying for a cast.

[pivotplease]

Yeah I just paid for a cast two months ago unfortunately lol. And okay good to know, but that doesn't change the other cost discrepancies. I could also bring up how the US gets larger food portions for far cheaper and how Canada unanimously gets ripped off the most as far as phone and internet prices while getting service comparable to a third-world country internet-wise. Basically what I'm trying to say is...the aforementioned health insurance prices are a great deal compared to heavy taxation on every purchase and income.

[ShaunCameron]

It's a combination of high taxes and tariffs, high logistics costs due to geography, smaller market, etcetera.

[Griever]

Looks like you have too much spare money to waste. Why not just donate all your money to Bethesda and name them your heir in your will while you are at it.

[JeffGUNZ]

$50 is too much spare money?? How old are you?

God forbid the guy has a job and earns more spare money then you. Grow up.

[Griever]

@JeffGUNZ

Oh shut up and mind your own business. How ignorant can you be. There are people in the world who earn $50 a month and have to use it to feed a family of upto 6. There are some even in my neighborhood. Even those who earn better live in different circumstances.

Some have families and children to look after. Some even have extended or joint families where a single man has to support upto 10 people. I have to support a family of 6 with just $400 a month even with a university business degree and being relatively highly paid. I have to squeeze my hobby of gaming somewhere in between to keep some fun in my life instead of just working like a machine.

All of us are not living in teh US/UK and do not earn the same. Not everybody is born with a silver spoon in the mouth. Maybe you need to grow up and learn about the world outside your borders before insulting others.

[pivotplease]

@JeffGUNZ Grow up lol. You are being the pot in this proverbial situation.

[gamertk421]

Sounds like people need to move somewhere else.

[kaizokuspy]

Not everyone in the us is wealthy either. I just got married not too long ago and am saving up for my last year of school. Wife and I both work crap jobs, but gaming is a stress release. It's an expensive hobby even for me. I often skip out on dlc these days, rocket league is the exception. $4 is doable vs $50

[ShaunCameron]

@ Griever

He's right, though.

[Pocketaces111]

Wow guys waiting for Gozer to boil a bunch of ooz with all this negativity. You all need to give your head a shake. People with 6 kids and not enough money for feeding them should not be gaming. It sucks but the reality is when money gets tight sacrifices must be made. I have had to limit my gaming... stop drinking alcohol (ya people can do that when money is tight.... most don't though because they feel justified) I have not been on a vacation in 2 years and I know at the end of the day I have a roof over my head and food on my table and that is enough.

We all need a reality check and should understand if we are chatting on this group we probably have it better then at least 50% of the population out their so suck it up.

If you want to get the extra content you fork up the cash (now to pay less, or wait and pay more) Depending on how badly you want it you can choose what you feel is worth giving up.

It's called life. Please people have intelligent conversation and stop complaining about your first world problems it's mind numbing

[LamerTamer]

As long as people keep buying these "season passes" they will continue to gouge for them. They will also limit content from the original games to make them shorter and goad you into buying the rest of the game later for more. Their goal now is over $100.00 per game. It is up to us to go along with it or not. They have us conditioned that the thing to automatically do is buy the game + season pass. unfortunately gamers just can't help themselves and go for this crap every time.

[mushroomwig]

The price of an entire new game, are they joking? Did anybody in the industry pay attention to the backlash that happened when Star Wars did the same thing?

[Double_O_Revan]

They did. And they also saw what kind of sales figures that game produced. As much as we complain, there are always people crazy enough to pay for it.

[ravinash]

Money talks louder than angry tweets.

[JackBNimble]

So don't buy the seasons pass, I'm not. Just buy the dlc as it comes out.

[JackBNimble]

I personally would like to know what I am paying for before they get my money.

[xPhearR3dx]

Why....the DLC announced already is $40 alone, not including the rest of the DLC for the year. You could pay $30 now and get all of it. Buying each piece of DLC is always gonna cost more than the Season Pass. If you enjoyed Fallout 4 a lot, I don't see any reason to buy it individually instead of the Season Pass if you planned on buying it anyway. You're just screwing yourself out of money at that point.

[JackBNimble]

Oh? Did I say that I was going to buy all the dlc?
I said I like to know what I am paying for before I give UBI any of my money.

[Yetter]

or buy the season pass now two weeks before price increases. They've shown what the first round of DLC is going to offer, if you want it, why wait and pay more?

[dead_pixels]

@JackBNimble - That's exactly where I'm at with this, and the fact that the price hike kicks in just before the first piece of DLC releases mean that, embargoes permitting, many gamers may not be able to hear if the first batch of content is any good if the want to get this while it's much cheaper. The timing just seems very suspect.

[EDKICK]

Except the backlash for Battlefront was not really on the price of the season pass alone , it was that the base game was sooo light on content and then the $50 season pass was extremely light on content. Making it $110 for a game still with too little content to even justify a $60 game. Fallout 4 definitely has enough content and all main Bethesda DLC has been substantial. So the Battlefront sutures is quite different.

[crazychris4124]

Guess I'll just get the complete edition next year. Didn't play 3 until last year, I have no problem waiting a little longer.

[kneon]

That's the best solution for single=player games. My solution is just to play the game and ignore season's passes and DLC, there are just too many other games to play to be stuck on one for more than a couple of months.

[ZaWarudo]

I'm actually on the opposite here, i think it's a sign of good upcoming content, although i do agree on the first two seems lackluster, but it'll be a bonus since i just want that $24.99 expansion.

And i know i'm making a gamble here, but Bethesda has delivered great DLCs in the past, so i'm confident that i'll get my money's worth.

[pivotplease]

Would rather pick up the Shivering Isles-esque content that is substantial and leave the Horse Armors and Hearthfires in the gutter where they belong. Basically, I don't give a damn about aesthetics and cosmetics... just significant content. This is why I skipped pretty much every season pass ever but picked up Witcher 3's pass immediately (for less than half the price of this).

[ScorpiusX]

They must do what they must do

[Swiggins]

Bought the base game on the cheap and got the Season Pass for $30 so this doesn't really effect me a whole lot, though it does set a less than stellar trend for the future.

[MilkMan]

Its simple. Id rather be shot in the mouth than buy season passes. C Ya later.

[2pacalypsenow]

Ok

[akurtz]

so instead of paying $30 for a season pass, hed rather pay $3000 in hospital bills. key board warrior logic.

[2pacalypsenow]

Hospital nothing he would have to pay for his funeral

[Thefreeman012]

Then Dont. I got my Fallout 4 season pass for $20 and I am happy with that. Im already getting my moneys worth from this DLC pack, not to mention the others to follow

[akurtz]

im doing $15 with gameshare.

[sullynathan]

I'll help you and get the gun.

Man you N4G users are dumb

[AgentSmithPS4]

I haven't had time to play FO4 but if their dlc really is bad for $/content I'll get it used or out of a bargain bin depending on what they deserve. ea/dice have already disgusted me so I won't be rewarding any other company that does this, except in cases where it's a great company with a great track record.

[Hasswell-NeverCold]

How greedy can you get..

[BattleTorn]

You do realize this means they are effectively now selling their $50 Season Pass for $29.99, for the next two weeks, now.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

You mean scaring people into purchasing the season pass before any content even comes out. Yeah, that's real charitable of them.

[Kal-V3]

You fell for that? Dude come on...

[BattleTorn]

Scare tactic!

WHATTA RIOT!!

[Thefreeman012]

they are possibly adding 5-6 DLC. from their point of view possibly they believe they are doing the work of another full game. I paid $20 for mine and Im already saving money just from this 3-Dlc pack.

[Freddy_Millz1]

You know the caliber of the DLC that Fallout games receive.
You know the price of the season pass will now go up from 30-60.
You have until March 1st to get it for $30 if u absolutely NEED it.

Solution- Buy it NOW b4 the price hike or dont. This isnt rocket science. These things cost money and they are stating that they are adding more content and had to compromise. For them to even do THAT is nothing to get mad at them for. They gave a deadline b4 price increase and let u know the reason why.
I understand everyone is always looking for a reason to rally a net mob and protest something but lets be honest here, If u wanted the season pass, u would of already got it or thought about it. This is intensive to get it faster or not bother.
Not a life or death decision really.

[sullynathan]

Bethesda being Bethesda. Ruining Fallout by the day.

[akurtz]

sure bud

[sullynathan]

thanks for agreeing.

[Oreic]

1 and 2 are still in existence, go play them then.

[Kyoshi]

And Activision churning out a COD game every year with a $50 season pass didn't already set a terrible precedent?

[Chaosdreams]

It did, and everyone warned about what it would do but people kept eating it up, year after year. Now other developers/publishers are having a go at it. It's sad.

[MicrosoftMackin]

Lol next it will be mod support is behind a season pass pay wall or some other shit.(bethesda reason)We feel like we've put alot of effort into this and we know we announced mod support earlier but here (pushes out mod support behind $20 paywall)

[SouljAx360]

I don't see what the big deal is yet. Nobody here knows what they have planned for the remaining DLC. Nobody here is forced to buy the season pass either. But it could end up being huge. The DLC for the other games was for the most part fantastic. I've already bought the season pass and have 300 hours in the game already. Got my money's worth with more to come.

[LAWSON72]

Well more content is hard to argue with hopefully the value they see I see as well.

[Simco876]

I love the Fallout series, and I've taken a huge break from Fallout 4. Main reason is some quests are endless, so I can't knock them off without having another SAME quest pop up again. Made me not want to play the game....with this news, I'll probably never pick up the controller and play again. Sad day.

[BattleTorn]

LULZ - the Canadians who already bought it at ~$23US ($29.99 CAN$) WIN BIG TIME!

[EazyC]

Get your greasy money-grabbing fingers off Fallout, Bethesda.

[Oreic]

Go back to fallout 1 and 2 then.

[UncertainCategory]

Um.

Guys you get over $60 worth of content for $30.

What... Why on earth is this a negative thing?

Here's the deal. Due to the success of the game they are making MORE dlc than they originally planned. so $60 instead of $40 of dlc. Obviously this would increase the price of the season pass since you are getting $20 of extra unplanned content.

But instead of just raising the price, they are giving you OVER TWO WEEKS to get the season pass, which currently gets you all the new content 50% off.

And you are angry about this? You guys are too much.

[yeahright2]

Act now! this limited time offer won't last long. Call within the next two weeks and you 'll get this piece of DLC, a $20 value absolutely free!

[windwardmist]

People that are complaining about the pricing: You can get the season pass right now for 23 bucks if you use green man gaming's coupon. Great deal at that price. Don't go and buy this for 30 or 50. I remember I got the base game originally from there for 45.

[Ethereal]

A majority of the people here must not have read the information fully. You have until March 1st to buy the season pass for $30 to get all the content (over $60 worth) after it will be $50. For me, as much as I want to play the new content, will all the games coming out this year, I will be holding off until the GOTY edition releases with the content on disc.

[Chaosdreams]

Buy now in hopes of getting good content, or be punished later for waiting.

Flawless system.

[Ethereal]

Or you could do what consumers have been doing since the beginning. Make an educated decision as to the quality of said product (when it releases) and decide if you feel it warrants the price. The other alternative is to "pre-order" the content at a discount without all the details of what you get in return. It's called risk, you encounter it everyday.

[SouljAx360]

The majority of people here don't even play the games they just like to complain about everything.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

"over 60$ worth"

Are you taking their word that it's over 60 dollars worth?

[Ethereal]

Predictable. It's all the gaming community ever does these days is complain. Vote with your wallet. No one has a gun to your head saying that you have to buy it. This is all predicated on the idea that gamers are entitled to get quality DLC for cheap (be glad we even get it). Wake up call, life isn't that perfect guys.

[FunAndGun]

Will wait for the edition that includes everything next year sometime.

Having a huge backlog has its advantages.

[porkChop]

The reason for the increase in price is because Bethesda increased their expansion plans. It's not like they're charging more for the same amount of content. More importantly, they're being upfront about it and are allowing everyone until the end of the month to purchase the season pass at the original price. If anything, this is exactly how companies should handle these types of situations.

[Chaosdreams]

Season passes have become disgusting. The only thing I'm left supporting anymore is a base game that has enough content to justify its worth. Preordering is nonsense so I ignore that, even when there's deals to save 20 percent. Season passes are a pathetic joke, easy money for them and don't pretend it isn't. Sigh, thankfully I'm not in love with mediocrity.

[DDMNeo]

Considering they had no idea what they wanted to do for DLC I think it's understandable that it went up when they figured it out. Considering it seems that they might be quite expansive with two of them, I think it's understandable. However you can just buy it now for $30 now.

Also for full disclosure, I already had the season pass.

[Alexious]

It's not even a precedent, this already happened with Dying Light.

[EazyC]

Were you coerced into buying tacked-on shit in Dying Light's DLC though?

[yomfweeee]

Coerced? You guys are hilarious.

[theshredded]

Haha F* you Bethesda, you're becoming worse

[EazyC]

It's a lovely precedent, isn't it? Cash and popularity will triumph over passion, soul or love.

[UncertainCategory]

Yeah how dare they give you the chance to save a lot of money on their DLC they used to charge everyone full price for!!!

THOSE JERKS.

Common man.

[NorthernFrost]

There really isn't a reason to be mad about this announcement. In fact, we should be happy. We can get all the content for $30. Far Harbor is $25, so that pretty much takes care of that.

[Apollosupreme]

The thing is that they implied that the DLC was going to be robust for the $30 price tag. It shouldn't come as a total shock, they telegraphed this. People who opted not to buy the season pass were betting on it not being worth $30 and were out to save money. Apparently they lost that bet and are now angry about it. Two pieces of advice for those people:

1. Stick to your guns and don't buy the season pass. Instead buy those DLC that interest you. Or wait for a sale because come on, this will go on sale multiple times eventually.
2. If you don't have the game just wait for the GOTY version.

This isn't the end of the world. This isn't some sort of shocking precedent. It is good clickbait though.

[Yetter]

couldn't agree more. I knew from day one I was gonna want all the DLC because Bethesda has a great track record for DLC that is actually worth while (minus the horse armor of course) so buying the season pass was a no brainer for me

[Yetter]

There sure is a lot of speculation in this article

[Yourmommasaid]

Content worth: $60
You pay: $50
You save: $10

For everything else, there's MasterCard...

[IceKoldKilla]

It sucks for those who are on the fence but I think they planned 5 DLCs of $10 each which they did say. They said they planned to at least have the same amount of DLC as last time (F3). Now if you see the prices for the separate DLCs, the prices range from $5 to $25. That means they now plan to offer a variety of DLCs that vary in size. But overall will be more than they planned. So now they wanna increase the price but fucked up selling it sooner. I hate when people ALWAYS say it's cut content. Sometimes it's so obvious but you're judging it before it releases? If DLC is built around feedback, I'm pretty sure it was built afterwards. Development is complicated and I doubt they sit on their asses waiting for feedback to come a month later once many have played and start new content. Content is always being made. Some never gets done before release. They don't get to release whenever. They have a release window to release the game which eventually turns into a specific date. So it's normal if shit is already being worked on before release and ends up as DLC. It use to be we got nothing and PC got expansions at times and that's it. But yes, DLC is abused as well. Ubisoft, Activision and EA are experts in this. Bethesda isn't perfect but I trust a lot of the content was made afterwards looking at what people enjoyed and wanted more of and/or content some devs wanted but didn't get to finish. And if not, I still think I'll enjoy it all. All I know is I love F3 and F: NV including their content, especially F3 so I was gonna get this anyway but I'm broke so I was saving. I always bought other things along the way that came first. BO3 DLC for example. But with this news I'll get it next week. At least thanks for the warning instead of jacking it up suddenly without warning.

[cabinotier]

gamer says "I don't want to pay much for game !!"
lmao

[jmc8888]

Well you can get the season pass for 23 percent off from GMG now for $23.10.

But you probably need to check your email for the offer. (it came for me about 5 or so days ago and only is good through about thursday).

[Aleithian]

*Gives in and decides to buy it*

*Logs into the PSN Store*

*Discovers he already bought it*

....

[ZombieStalker]

Why do people continue to fall for this DLC crap. When you purchase a season pass you are gambling your money in hopes the DLC content is worth the money you spent. And most of the DLC content is part of the initial game to begin with...

A $50 DLC expansion for Fallout 4 when the full game costs $60! Stop buying DLC and these companies will stop this crap. Vote with your wallet!!!

[LKane]

Gamers hate it, blast publishers for it, yet people will still buy it. And Bethesda will be like *woody harrelson crying, wiping tears with money*

[yomfweeee]

Gamers don't hate it based on the fact that it is a successful thing.

[Fusion_Ninja]

Stupid article, stupid speculation. BethSoft have announced the *first small batch* of upcoming DLC content, and it's proclaimed that the company's ripping us off by asking us for an extra $20 (while giving us all *two more weeks to decide for ourselves* if we want to buy in at the original price).

To begin with, Fallout 4 was a HELL of a game for $60. My wife and I both play and enjoy it regularly, three months after its release. I've experienced far worse content, and far less content in a $60 game.

Secondly, this is just the beginning of the DLC; a taste of what's to come. Two small add-on packs and one huge story/locale DLC, which according to Bethesda "features the largest landmass for an add-on that we’ve ever created". Solstheim was HUGE, folks. That alone bodes pretty well for players. Not to mention the fact that starting next month, we'll be getting these items on a monthly basis through May, based on what's currently confirmed. You can guarantee, there's going to be a lot more in store where this came from.

If Beth Game Studios had a history of sh*t DLC, I'd be concerned. But going back to Morrowind, all their add-on content (some minor Oblivion micro transactions aside) has been outstanding.

[RosweeSon]

I agree it's not great to be raising the price but if they've figured their lost game content is worth a lot more than they were charging then fair play to them they've been very transparent about it at least and warned everyone what is happening with nearly 2 weeks notice and said prices will be going up from 1st March if that was any other company but let's pick on EA they have bumped the price from £24.99/39.99 and then told us oh by the way yeah was £25 it's now £40 and you've already missed your chance. Either grab it before it goes up in price, wait for it to go up then come back down in a sale or just swerve it altogether.

[linkenski]

Bethesda went all out commercial and insanity like the other big publishers. I fucking knew they were going that route since they tried to go big at E3 last year.

[yomfweeee]

I swear you all are a bunch of whiney babies.

They've basically added $20-30 worth of content on top of their original plans.

They gave a 2 weeks ahead up about this in which you are able to get the season pass for the same price. Effectively you're getting that extra content for free.

And all you guys can do is bitch and complain.

[MasterD919]

Well, at least they gave us a warning...That's more than other developers would do.

[mastershredder]

If so, the solution is simple...wait it out. Finish up what you can in the main story and play other games. I've played enough Fallout 4 to be burnt out by the fundamental mechanics and gameplay. Unless they add some real amazing features and locations to the game, I'll pass on it.

[InTheZoneAC]

what a troll article.

$30 for season pass where dlc would cost you $50, gtfo

no one complained about $10 per dlc for fallout 3/NV

now people want just as much or more for less than that price?

$30 is a steal for this DLC. If you want to wait that's your loss. But if you're going to wait then you have already planned on the GotY Edition and regardless of season pass price increases that doesn't affect you.

The author of this article is clearly stupid.

[DynoMiteLaserCat]

Buy before the price goes up and problem solved!

I don't necessarily like it but if the price hike is because they are adding even more content than they were going to before I can stomach it. I mean look at Dying Light with The Following... an example of them implementing a price hike for all the right reasons. The 'expansion DLC' ended up being twice as big as the original game!

[Bolts]

You're going to buy it. Stop lying to yourself. Just pay the $30 now and get a good night sleep.

[bixxel]

See. EA is not the only company now for providing season passes of worth almost greater than many other games.

[Mr Marvel]

I never buy DLC anyway.

I have so many Platinum trophies sitting on 60-80% because once I move on to a new game I never go back.

Diablo III is the only game that ever keeps me coming back.

[tweet75]

question those that already purchased the season pass for a lower price still get all the dlc?

[tweet75]

DLC Total cost should never be more than the orginal retail price of a game

[DarXter]

the 20 bucks less now is like a pre-order bonus, but for the DLC instead of the full game. Although I can imagine they use it to push season pass sales now (also to know how many people are interested I suppose?).

Either way, this news will mean I will probably get it now rather than later, taking my chances if it turns out to be less than great (never bought a season pass before, but enjoyed fallout 4). What I hear though, Bethesda has a pretty good track record when it comes to DLC, so for me it's worth the gamble.

For people who would like to play the DLC, but want to 1) know what they are getting exactly beforehand and 2) don't want to pay 50, I am sure at some point there will be discounted packs of the DLC.

[VerdicLinwe]

Half these people giving disagrees and crying about it probably didn't even buy the game, let alone finish it. You deserve to get jacked in the jaw if you love the game and haven't bought the Season Pass at the lower price point now that you have a heads up. Disagree all you want haters, most of you just sit on this site all day and run your jaw more than you'd ever run it to someone's face. Keep trollin'.

[SynestheticRoar]

Fallout 4 is the last Bethesda game I will ever own.

[Nodoze]

Greed is destroying gaming. It is only a matter of time now until it all implodes and we are back in a situation like in the 80's. Massive destruction, bankruptcy, studio closure, etc etc

So keep it up publishers you are only digging your own graves with those gold plated shovels.

For those too young to remember - the video game industry crash of 1983:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

It is coming again. No way we can continue to have $100 + games and for this to be sustainable.

[yomfweeee]

This isn't greed. This is no different than expansions that have existed for a long time on PC.

- In the past you paid $60 for a game and that was it.
- You still pay $60 for a game. These games offer just as much content as games in the past. Fallout 4 has more content than 99% of the games from the 80s and 90s.
- Now you can buy even more content offering dozens of hours of additional content.

[jmc8888]

What you forget is that the price of games goes down every year. $60 in 2016 is less then $60 in 2015. In fact if you go back to about 2005 when it changed to $60, a $60 game is now like $30 or less in purchasing power.

That's how much our $$$ (and most other currencies) have been debased. Thank your banks, your Wall Street/City of London...Republicans...Democra ts... Labour...etc, etc, etc. Conservative, Liberal, Socialist....doesn't matter. The actors in your broken markets rule you.

I get it, believe me. Our wages haven't doubled or more in 11 years, in fact, for most jobs, they've decreased. But blaming video game companies isn't the answer. Blaming your politicians and the people stealing your wealth ARE. Oh and the media which ignores/hides it.

See the point people don't understand is that there are consequences to bad banker and bad gov't behavior. This is one of them. Everybody in the real world... you.. me... the companies that make the stuff we want or need to survive... have to live with it.

Like Bethesda. People are freaking out that they delivered Fallout 4 for about half the starting purchasing power price as Oblivion. But their costs are much, much higher for making Fallout 4 then it was for making Oblivion.

They offered us a discount price on the DLC. $29.99 for some huge additions. People praised them for the price, and they said at the time, that it might become even bigger then they anticipated. But it was going to be huge even if they didn't make it bigger. Well they decided to make it bigger. Most people that want Fallout 4, have Fallout 4. We've already had over 3 months where we can buy it for that price. They've now announced it will be bigger, and didn't just up the price. They gave us a couple more weeks to find out, save up, and buy it before it raises in price. Hilarious that this now seen as 'bad'.

It was cheap, it's getting bigger, and they warned you. Some people will never be happy.

People also forget there are ways to get it cheaper. Hell I preordered the game AND just got the season pass yesterday... all together.. about $67. $23.10 for the season pass.

So some people might want to wait a year or year and a half to get that price together. Well you could of preordered both.

Either way, the money in your pocket is worth crap and it's not Bethesda's fault. Blame Bush. Blame Obama. Blame Blair, Osborne, etc, etc. Blame Sarkozy, Hollande. Merkel,etc, etc. The reason things cost more is because of our leaders selling us out. Don't you think blaming Bethesda is kind of pointing the finger at the wrong person? If you don't think so, you are living in a fantasy world.

Wake up, because games are going to have more and more pressures put on them. More and more useless money printing to hide the worthless frauds they are trying to sweep under the rug. More and more wars of terror (not on terror...OF). What that will do is break the videogame industry.... not because of 'greed'.

But because our currencies are being debased, our wages don't keep up, and the cost of making ANYTHING increases.

The divergence and implosion come from THAT. Not greed.

1983 was fairly similar. Why does everyone forget what happened just before that? They had their credit lines pulled because Paul Volcker raised interest rates to over 20 percent. Not the same thing as now, but as you can see, that crash, and the coming ones were actually caused by the MARKETS and our LEADERS.

Except this time it isn't happening because we're trying to reign stuff in, it's because our leaders have gone full retard and completely sold us out into collapse.

[killer_goat]

Well I'll be buying the season pass this month. It'll be worth it

[contradictory]

yup, definitely waiting until the entire game has been released before bothering.

F U Bethesda..

[windblowsagain]

The entire game was already released.

DLC is just a cash grab in every game ever made.

Games these days don't have enough content to begin with.

[contradictory]

the "entire" game isn't the
entire game if all the content isn't out there yet..

finish the DLC when you care to, i don't give a flying fuck until the game can be bought outright without having to wait for any bs season passes because: "hurr durr, will be released later, no guarantees of quality, also give us money. "

[ERFO]

I haven't event touched the game yet.

So far, a ton of bugs have been fixed and it's been graphically improved. Now the DLC will drop, a ton of people will buy it and I'll continue to wait..... like a money-saving troll. 6 more months and I should have a decent priced and optimized experience.

[contradictory]

exactly, no reason to buy a buggy incomplete version of a game if you can buy the full version later at a cheaper price.

[Haki1112]

I'm not buying it for 30 or 60 Eff that

[brokenbracket]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Wait, so there's a second game of Fallout 4 releasing? Is it like Fallout 4.5 or something? There better be weather effects, yellow snow, and out-houses I can take huge dumps in for $50. I better be able to give cocaine to my companion and watch them overdose.

[JamesBroski]

I don't see the problem here... the DLC are going to be worth more than $60 and they're increasing the price of the season pass to $50 and they give people 2 weeks notice Listening to you guys, you'd prefer Bethesda to stop working on new expansions all together.

What they could have done is to release a season pass 2, like Destiny or Evolve, to include the next DLC they're planning to add. But instead, they gave them for "free" to people who bought the season pass before the price increase AND give everyone a 2 weeks notice.

[OngoBay]

While it may be fair to say that it set a bad precedent, Dying Light's DLC more than doubled the size of the playable sandbox and added wholly new, and undeniably substantive, gameplay mechanics. It is 100% worth the extra $20 it cost me to add the content.