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Being an adult gamer

"Sometimes it feels like games are just too long. Gone are the days where most of us can spend the entire summer exploring fantasy world's, interacting with every NPC and completing every side quest.
The reality is that gaming is hard to fit into a normal working person's schedule. How are you supposed to play dozens of hours of The Witcher 3 when there are people to see, things to do, music to hear, films to watch and books to read."

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Cy2994d ago

This is why I hate the current trend of everything being open world. I used to hate it because it's so hard to have a nice, structured narrative with an interesting plot and deep characters in open world games, but now I hate it because of all that and how much time I have to put into gaming. It's not as easy as it used to be to take 5 days and just play through the newest game. Which sucks, but honestly I'm not even sure I have it in me to invest so much of myself in a game right now. That's why I really like walking simulators. I get my narrative and they're usually pretty short.

Fez2994d ago (Edited 2994d ago )

It took me about 4 months to complete MGSV... which added to the poor story experience by spreading it out over such a long time. Open world has to be spot on in how it makes you spend your time otherwise it's not a genre for me.

I much prefer a linear 5-15 hour experience nowadays.

Cy2993d ago

I took a week and played through MGSV, which made the awful story even more infuriating because I pushed my responsibilities to the side for it. I totally agree about linear experiences. Give me a beginning, a middle, and an ending. Let me feel like I accomplished something.

ifistbrowni2993d ago (Edited 2993d ago )

I know its a "niche" hobby within the gaming community, but I'm what you would call a trophy hunter/achievement "whore."

I almost always platinum the games I play.

Last year, with all the open worlds and very few linear games, I was only able to play about 60% of the games that I purchased.

Ever Since December, I've been cleaning my backlog and I still have MGS:V within that backlog. I always weigh it against, "well if I play this game its 100+ hours, if I play this game, it's 20-35 hours."

I miss platinums from last generation. I have the Uncharted Collection for PS4, and they were probably the most enjoyable platinums of last year.

I like getting platinums, dont get me wrong. But when you play games like Batman, Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Dying Light, it's understandable how a trophy hunter could develop an overwhelming back log.

Division, Uncharted 4 and Dark Souls 3 are all going to the top of the list when they release, so If I don't get around to MGS V sometime this month/next month, it'll be all but forgotten.

I'm currently working on those 20-35 hour games to then be like, "okay, now I only have 2 games in my back log." I've done a good job clearing the log in the past month to be honest with myself but it's tough managing a full time job, social life and my gaming hobby. Most of the time, 8 hours of sleep has to be the sacrifice

optimus2994d ago

I wouldn't blame the game as much since it's more your lifestyle that has changed. You probably have more responsibilities now that you're older. In my early years all i had to worry about was doing my homework. Now i have my own bills, car, house, work to maintain...
i'm more of a single player type since i don't have the time or patience to invest in games to really perfect them...

today's games although most are bigger than they used to be they don't offer that sense of urgency that games from the 8 and 16-bit era had. Although that has more to do with advancements in consoles where today you have unlimited continues and can pretty much start wherever you left off as opposed to getting 3-4 lives and continues...today, you just don't get that feeling of wanting to finish a game as badly. At least i don't anyway.

sa739172994d ago

Clearly playing games isn't the only thing he doesn't have much time for.. A vague spell / grammar check over the article wouldn't have gone astray before publishing it!

WildArmed2994d ago

I think part of being an adult is enjoying the experience. When I started Witcher 3 last May, my goal wasn't to finish the game by June.

I'm still playing it, and I'm enjoying it very much. I have 40 hours in the game since launch and I continue to play a lil' on a weekly basis.

Being an adult doesn't mean binge on 8 hour games that are quick to finish. It's pacing yourself and setting your own goals. You know your schedule better than anyone, why are you trying to compete with a high schooler in terms of how quickly you can beat the game since launch date.

It shouldn't and it doesn't matter. Play the game how you want, and when you want. Being a 10 hour game vs a 100 hour game doesn't matter when you don't enjoy the game. Be an adult, pick a game you like, not a game that is liked by everyone else. Play at your pace, and don't worry about checking off boxes. I think I beat 5 games last year, and I'm OK with that.

jb2272994d ago

I think the issue is that fewer & fewer games can fit into that category of "games you like" when most everything these days are open world rog's or online fps titles. If you dig a quality self contained finite narrative, the pickings are increasingly slim. It's not as much about managing your expectations & picking a game from a smorgasbord of titles as it is wading through hundreds of games that cater to every other need but your own. Sure when you dig into a 400+ hour open world you aren't expecting to do every single thing! but if there's no clear way into a solid & consistent experience then you are still left wandering a literal wasteland.

This year does seem to be turning things around though & we've already seen at least a couple acclaimed and pointed experiences already, but in every single gen of years past, this entire idea of digging for the experience that suits you didn't exist. I don't think the writer is trying to binge on games as much as just having solid & worthwhile experiences every time he picks up the controller. An 8 hour game will last me over a week most times because I can only really play in bite sized 2 hour chunks on certain nights, and I don't think it's too much to ask of devs to ensure than every bit of time spent in their games are worthwhile. I know tastes differ but I honestly don't think that even the most hardcore of open world rpg fans dig all of those monotonous side quests, but they do it in order to level up. It's that completionist behavior that is being preyed upon by devs in order to throw some insane stats up about being able to play their games for the next 5 years w/ no accounting for the actual quality of your experience. I'm all for diversity in game types & people that enjoy that endless grind should be catered to as much as anyone, but those that just want to sit down & have a quality adult narrative experience for a few hours every few nights have gone largely ignored this gen for my tastes. I've spent most of this gen just waiting for Uncharted to release & the rest of my time just replaying the few games that hit the criteria that has been in place since the beginning of gaming.

rainslacker2994d ago

Absolutely. I played MGS for almost 2 months straight, because I was enjoying it enough to try and go for the platinum. I eventually grew tired of it though, and wanted to move on, so I did.

At most, I may be reluctant to start a longer game if I know I have a lot on my plate currently or coming up, because more often than not, I don't want to spend 2 months playing the same game. Really want to start FF7 PC port on the PS4 and get the plat, but I am going with some shorter games first to get them out of the way, and the next two weeks are going to be rather busy as I move into the next stage of a remodel project on the home.

When I'm actually playing a game though, I don't consider the amount of days it will take to complete, nor do I sit there and feel compelled to complete it for a trophy if I want to move onto other things.

My life outside of work ebbs and flows in the amount of time I have available, and I just play games as time allows. Some days I can binge for 8-12 hours, other times I can go several days, or more, not even touching a controller or system. I don't obsess over my playing habits, nor do I feel I have to cut back, or try to find more time. Works out well for me.

I am lucky enough that my fiancee isn't clingy enough to need me to be around all the time, and that she will play games with me...although she tends to occupy my Vita more often than not and just ignore me....which is why I brought her her own for Valentines day.:)

UltraNova2994d ago (Edited 2994d ago )

Hehe

My daily schedule allows 30mins to 1hr during week days and 4-6 hrs in weekends. As you can see gaming is sparse these days..to the point taking close to 3 months to complete a game like DS2... Thing is these days my attention span differs from game to game, I logged in 400 hrs in DS2 and I couldn't get enough, I had to force my self to move on to other games that pilled up on my desk. Then I picked up Batman AK and I barely finished the main story. Now I playing both Bloodborne, Lords of the Fallen and BLOPs 3 at the same time and GOD knows when I'll finish all 3 of them...

That said you are lucky your fiancee doesn't grind her teeth at you every time you grab the controller, trust me you don't want to be in that situation!

ifistbrowni2993d ago

this is a really good thread to read opinions on. I just about agree with everyones post

Sciurus_vulgaris2994d ago

The average gamer is over 30 years old. You can find plenty of time to play depending on your life style.

ShadowKnight2994d ago

Just curious how do you know the average gamer is over 30 years old? Is there a link that says that

jb2272994d ago

There have been studies that actually say the average gamer is closer to 35 years old...a recent doc (maybe Video Game the Movie? Can't remember but it was on Netflix & narrated by Sean Astin) mentioned that statistic & Ive seen it in multiple other places...the people that grew up on console gaming essentially never left & a lot of the younger gen is playing mobile or currently taking the college gaming hiatus that most of us took.

As far as being able to find plenty to play considering your gaming style, that only rings true if you are willing to go back to previous gens. There is far from "plenty" to play for my tastes on the current gen. I dig story driven linear TPS narratives, platformers that aren't rogue like or procedurally generated & couch co op games that fit those criteria. Anybody willing to give me recommendations on games that fit those criteria this gen? Or even just a quality narrative experience would suffice for me regardless of its style...So far I've come up w/ next to none & I stay on top of the gaming landscape. Not like that's asking for much because those games were literally what most of us were raised on from gaming's inception but they've largely disappeared in favor of open world rpg's & online only mp fps games. I'm just looking for a clean '& simple game that doesn't require me to spend time upgrading weapons & wading through so many damn similar choices in weapons & upgrades, etc.

It just seems like games these days have no focus, most of them are just scattershot ideas that throw everything plus the kitchen sink at you while perfecting none of it. The HuDs & pause menus are proof of this, there are dozens of stats & numbers & figures & sub menus & words & numbers, all the while I just want a simple, streamlined, compelling gameplay experience that doesn't require me to play for dozens of hours, spending half of my time in pause menus upgrading weapons, or competing w/ strangers that apparently school people like me for a living, or playing games from devs that are too lazy to even settle on a design so they just get the computer to procedurally generate it for them. There are increasingly fewer traditional gameplay experiences on the market & that much seems to be a simple fact.

Pongwater2994d ago

@jb227 - "There are increasingly fewer traditional gameplay experiences on the market & that much seems to be a simple fact."

You seem to define "traditional" as "games jb227 likes". As an old school gamer (the Atari 2600 was my second console) what I see is more variety than ever existed before for a home console gamer. Old school games, or at least games that are reminiscent of those old titles, new games that build on what came previously, and games I would describe as experimental.

Your description of what you're looking for sounds quite narrow, but I doubt very much that you can't find those things on PC if not consoles.

ifistbrowni2993d ago (Edited 2993d ago )

@jb227, the last "good" linear game I played was Wolfenstein. Cod I about the only other game I can think of that isn't open world.

I choose my games wisely now that I'm older. I have the expendable income to play just about any game I want, but I still just focus my gaming on games I want to play.

I don't have the desire to play every popular modern game. I pick a game I want to play and "just do it."

Other than indie games, most of the games I played last year were open world or online only. I ache for Uncharted 4. Not only because Uncharted 4 will be amazing, but because I know it will be that "beginning, middle, end" game that I enjoy playing.

After last year, I'm tired of the "open world, sandbox" game. It seemed like every AAA game I played had one. As previously mentioned, the only games that I played last year that werent completely open world/open world elements, were Indie games, Life is Strange and Telltale games.

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Metallox2994d ago

I strongly doubt the average player is 30 years old.

Pongwater2994d ago

In the US, which is the biggest market, he's right.

http://www.theesa.com/wp-co...

rainslacker2994d ago (Edited 2994d ago )

Yep, afraid so,

For US it's 34

http://www.esrb.org/about/v...

For UK 35

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...

Australia is 33

http://www.news.com.au/tech...

The idea that gaming is primarily a kids endevour has long since been refuted, and it's been that way since the the SNES when adults were found to be the primary players of games, and the average age has crept upwards ever since.

Kind of why we don't always have to think of the children when it comes to mature rated games, and why Jack Thompson and every media outlet and politician attacking games has been full of sh*t on the subject.

C_Menz2994d ago

Part of becoming an adult is learning how to manage and prioritize your time. Even with a full time job and family you can find time for games. It just falls down to how much time you can devote to it at a time without taking away from more important things.

Letting go of the "I must finish this game in 2 days" mentality resolves a lot things. Play a game at your own pace and enjoy it when you have some time on your hands.

ifistbrowni2993d ago (Edited 2993d ago )

"play the game at your own pace."

This is exactly right. I buy every single game I play as an adult. As a young adult/teen I would rent just about every game unless it was a game like Halo 3, Gears of War, Cod MW, COD WAW and COD MW2 because of their online components (which I probably threw 500+ total hours at the titles listed).

Renting a game would be a total waste of money for me today. I'd barely even scratch the surface of any single game last year with a 5 day rental. A younger me would have most games beat within a 5 day rental.

I enjoy buying my games and sometimes taking months 2-3 months to complete them. I couldn't even imagine how much of a chore it would be to complete a game like Witcher 3 over one or two weekends.

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The 7 Best Western RPGs: Immersive Adventures

RPGs are often huge, sprawling endeavours. With limited playtime, we have to choose wisely, so here's the best western RPGs available today.

SimpleSlave21d ago

"I started playing games yesterday" the List... Meh!

How about a few RPGs that deserve some love instead?
1 - Alpha Protocol - Now on GOG
2 - else Heart.Break()
3 - Shadowrun Trilogy
4 - Wasteland 2
5 - UnderRail
6 - Tyranny
7 - Torment: Tides of Numenera

And for a bonus game that flew under the radar:
8 - Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden

DustMan21d ago

Loved Alpha Protocol in all it's glorious jank. Great game.

SimpleSlave21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Not only glorious jank, but the idea that the story can completely change depending on what you do, or say, or side with, makes it one of the most forward thinking games ever. The amount of story permutation is the equivalent of a Hitman level but in Story Form. And it wasn't just that the story changed, no, it was that you met completely new characters, or missed them, depending on your choices. Made Mass Effect feel static in comparison.

Alpha Protocol was absolutely glorious, indeed. And it was, and still is, more Next Gen than most anything out there these days. In this regard at least.

Pity.

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thorstein45d ago

.... from the 2000s (mostly).

shinoff218345d ago

I can't fk with this list. They missed on alot of games probably before the writers times. Also I know people loved some portal but I was never a fan.

Cacabunga45d ago

Tomb Raider 1
Driver 1
Abe’s Odyssey
FF6
King of Fighters 94
Mortal Kombat OG
LINK 2 the past
Street Fighter 2
Resident Evil 1

Inverno45d ago

Infinite but not the first two games? Witcher 3 but not the first two games?? GTA V but not literally any of the games before it??? Portal 2 but not the first? Also if you're going to play Shadow of The Colossus play the remaster and not the remake. Can't say I disagree with the list but my man it's all over the place.

Name Last Name45d ago

I mean some sequels are objectively better and you don’t need to play the whole series.

Inverno45d ago

But most of these games have a story to follow, sure you can catch up with a YouTube vid but where's the fun in that?

LucasRuinedChildhood45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

A list like this isn't telling you not to play the previous games if you want to. It's just giving you legendary games to play.

But tbh, you don't always have to force yourself to play every entry in a franchise to get to the better ones.

- The vast majority of Witcher 3 players never played the first 2 and had a great time. The first 2 games aren't in the same league.
- The GTA games are self-contained with the odd fun reference. You can easily jump into any of them.
- The Shadow Of The Colossus remake looks and controls better than the original (plus it has a 60fps option while the remaster is just 30fps). New players will enjoy it more.
- Portal 2 is a lot better than Portal 1 and takes the concept much further gameplay-wise. Storywise, Portal 1 is fairly light too. Not that you shouldn't play it but realistically ... you'd love Portal 2 whether you play it or not (at lot of Portal 2 players have never played 1).

Bioshock 1 is the only one I agree with you on simply because it's one the best games of all time and arguably better than Infinite. No other setting like Rapture.

Looking at the list, I'd recommend playing Uncharted 1 before 2 but no doubt, 2 is the legendary one you have to play.

Inverno45d ago

I get it, but that's just my opinion on his opinion. I just think that before you play a sequel you should still play what came before it. Maybe it's just me but i find it fascinating playing through the first game in a series and seeing how it has evolved through its sequels. Like I said I don't disagree with the list, other than SoTC which I strongly believe the remaster of the original should be played above the remake.

AuraAbjure45d ago

Awesome list! Hot take on Fear (and it's hard af expansion Persaus Mandate!) Bioshock Infinite is stellar, so is the Witcher 3 and you nailed it by having Ocarina of Time. So many fantastic games! Gotta play 'em all! Next one on my list is Prey after I beat Dead Space 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

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Wealth of Geeks explores some of the best gaming romances that have stolen our hearts over the years.

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