Destiny Getting New Expansion in 2016 and Full Sequel in 2017; Activision Releases Financial Results

Activision Blizzard just released its financial results for the fourth quarter of calendar year 2015, ended on December 31st.

[-Foxtrot]

A sequel? Urgh...

Can't wait for the "We promise you guys, this is what Destiny should have been" PR lines.

Why don't they just continue updating the first one and get a small team of people to work on a brand new, single player focused IP with drop in/drop out co-op elements.

[DarkOcelet]

I cant wait to see the amount of people who will make the same mistake again by falling into the hype of the marketing and buy it day 1.

The problem is not in Activision/Bungie, the problem is in the masses who will buy it.

[-Foxtrot]

I know right, it's going to be like Call of Duty

Which is funny as it's another game published by Activison.

People will get excited, be sucked in by PR, cool trailers, new features and then play the game only to be disappointed,

I think what I'm going to be more annoyed about is them trying to get single player gamers to buy this...the amount of PR on this is going to be insane. I've learnt now that despite what they say you can not enjoy this game as a single player game.

It's probably going to be another grind fest.

"In Destiny 2 you can now go to Jupiter, Saturn but not Uranus as we're too busy screwing it"

[Chaosdreams]

The problem is with both. Activision/Bungie who pulled off a disgusting practice, and everyone who found out and then kept supporting it. (This isn't pointing fingers at those who enjoy the game, but at those who deny its faults and say everything is perfect).

Destiny 2, or whatever they call it, won't be anything special. It'll be addicting to the market that its focused on.

[DarkOcelet]

"but not Uranus as we're too busy screwing it"

LOL! Good one mate XD

[thekhurg]

Considering the massive success and huge continued number of players that Destiny has, I'm sure a ton of people will buy on day one and love the hell out of the game.

You aren't every gamer. Destiny fans far outnumber Destiny crybabies.

[supraking951]

Its cute how wrong you are. This was a SUCCESSFUL new ip and it lasted more than a year, longer than a annual COD game. If its not for you then fine, but millions still play it and new content will shoot it back up the charts jist like Taken King.
K bye

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Yep. Blame the people who bought a game they were interested in. Because of course buying a game at release is only because of marketing hype.

[MAULxx]

I shall NOT BE MOVED! :)

[Lord_Sloth]

Seriously. Where the hell do people get off buying things they enjoy? The nerve!

[Pongwater]

I can't wait to see the amount of people pretending Destiny wasn't a success and isn't still heavily played.

Luckily I get to see that every time there's a Destiny article here.

OT - New expansion? I'm in! Sequel? I'm in!

[IceKoldKilla]

I'm sorry but you don't speak for the masses and it seems some people agree with me (your dislikes). I got Destiny day 1 and never regretted it. Yes the story sucked. No other way to say it. But man did it come at the perfect time. CoD is in my past now. I obssesed over it as a teen and have had the privilege to play and own every main title but it isn't for me anymore. Too much stress playing and I got bored of the game. So a FPS with RPG/MMO elements is what I needed but I didn't know at the time. I was very skeptical at first but I went and got the Collector's Edition. No regrets. The gameplay has had me hooked. I complain about things here and there but overall it's one of my favorite games of all time. If a game can continue to pull me in after over a year, it's in my list of favorite games of all time. I play less now but these little events, Trials and the occasional Raid bring me back a few days a week. It needs big changes and can do so much more and that's why I'm excited. Speak for yourself. I know many agree with you but not everyone. Not even most people. People with complaints always speak up more than those that are OK with the game. But if it wasn't for those people complaining we'd have a game with less changes and updates so thank you but don't go too far to insult them and talk shit. Constructive criticism/feedback is what they need.

[wellard]

I don't care just as long as it has Ai fish

[Orbilator]

Can't say I've been disappointed with Desting at all. Love it to bits! Play it every day, have immense fun.

Will buy all and any dlc that comes out for it.

You been panning destiny since launch DarkOcelet but just coz you hate it don't think your the masses.

Really looking forward to any follow up to! So much scope and places to go with the story line.

And what wrong with still enjoying playing the cod games ? Well unless you got no pals I suppose.

[gums007]

You might be surprised but a lot of people like Destiny. We also like that people like you don't play it either which gives us just one more reason to enjoy. From all the fans of Destiny, we thank you for your click and comment on this article. It's people like you that help create more destiny articles as we appreciate your relentless support.

sucker.

[gums007]

DarkOcelet, I like to help people in need. The link below may help you.

www.managingdepression.us/

[LAWSON72]

Can't you just leave the destiny fanbase alone and just go play a SP game/franchise you like rather than pretty much ask them to change the whole concept because you don't like it.

I am by no means a huge destiny fanboy I have not touched it because without expansions I see no point.

Bungie would be stupid if they made Destiny 2 not catered to the fanbase the game already has because it is huge.

Whoever wants to disagree and hates on this game on a regular basis just move on leave those that play this game and Activision/Bungie alone. Despite what you think you don't know what is the best decision for everyone

[DarkOcelet]

The $hit we got was not even the concept of Destiny.

What we got was a shell of the game we were suppose to get. Read some old articles on the game was suppose to be.

Bungie really screwed us over with this one.

[-Foxtrot]

Lol. I don't like it. Just me? No one else?

Right...

They made out like single player games could play it. The PR made it out like it was going to be something like Mass Effect with planets to explore and huge RPG elements. In the end it wasn't.

I was hyped up to the max over this game, I don't usually get sucked into PR crap but this I did. I hate myself for it and I won't do it again.

But it still going to p*** me off seeing those who think they can change when they won't and then come away disappointed calling them all sorts of names when it's their own fault.

I'm sick of that cycle for COD

[Knushwood Butt]

Nobody on my friend list plays it any more, and some of them were very heavy Destiny players.

I sold it.

[Jaces]

"Destiny 2, with even more unwanted nerfs and recycled levels than before!"

Yea, no. Not falling for it again. Honestly, what killed it for me was the constant updates to weapons, armor, nightfall drops, light levels, etc. Bungie cannot keep themselves from screwing something up consistently every month. They literally made the game worse over the course of that year. Sometimes it's not always best to listen to pvp whiners, they made about 90% of our Legendaries and Exotics in pvp AND pve useless. Thanks guys, great community.

Suck it up and keep grinding or get good. Community in that game literally drove me away. It also didn't help that the two DLC raids were garbage and overshadowed by the spectacular VOG. Trials was awesome, then they nerfed some more, trials no longer fun. POE was neat, then they nerfed Skolas, POE no longer challenging. FINALLY got a Gjallahorn, NERFED IT. Yea, fuck this. What's the point in grinding if everytime Bungie decides they can't keep their hands out and feel the need to nerf something, just not worth it anymore.

[Paytaa]

I don't have an issue with people liking the game even though I'll never understand why and that's fine but what pisses me off is all the deceptive and shady shit they did with Destiny and yet people just don't care. The game is a glorified gaming casino and is a front-runner in the big games out today which causes other games to be influenced by the same garbage.

It actually is a matter of what the best decision is for everyone because when a game like this charges you twice for the same game and among other countless trash practices but sells more than some of the biggest names out there, that's a problem for not just Dsetiny fans but fans of games in general because it will allow other games to do the same and frankly get away with it.

Activision knew that with their own name along with the "legendary" developers of Halo on the box, the game would sell mad and they were right. They knew exactly how to abuse the consumer and continue to do it to this day.

I would buy the next two Call of Duty's before another Destiny because at least they are full of content with or without DLC/microtransactions.

[IceKoldKilla]

I agree but also keep in mind we need those people who come with constructive criticism/feedback to help them see a lot of people want change and improvements. I love this game and still play to this day. I'm always excited about new content as little as it is. I hope they update the old Raids. This game can do so much more. So much lost potential with the vanilla game. I will never buy any micro-transaction items though. Never. Not for me. Too expensive and shit that could be free/made available through in-game currency.

[Aenea]

Ehmm, a sequel was always the plan, they had a 10-year plan with a sequel every 2 years. This way they can improve on the engine too and leave last gen behind.

Though it was supposed to release this year, not 2017...

[LAWSON72]

@darkocelot

That shit of a shell attracted millions and not only that attracted them to buy its expensive expansion(s). Clearly people like Destiny because of its unique approach to MP. Despite what people like Foxtrot think the game is not a failure and neither is its overall premise.

I agree it is a shell of a game that should be much more, and IMO that shell deserves to be expanded not narrowed down. Destiny 2 needs to happen and be bigger and better. Not feed some crap about how they messed up and make a completely different product.

@foxtrot
Destiny came out in 2014 and a sequel is due in 2017. Yeah lets call that a CoD cycle.

[-Foxtrot]

I didn't mean cycle as in yearly games I meant cycle as in...

Game comes out
Few months later people complain
New game announced
People get excited and buy into PR crap
Hype goes through the roof
New game comes out
Few months later people complain

and it goes full circle

That cycle.

[wellard]

I think by the time destiny 2 is released other games would have hit the market to fill the void that destiny 1 used to fill. I don't think bungie will find the market as receptive as it was for destiny especially in lieu of the bad taste left in so many of the first games fans mouths.

[Mr-Dude]

Well, I learned my lesson after the first one...

[Sevir]

Are you naysayers done? It's been 17 months if you're done, be done and quit pouring your hate into the article and move the heck on... There are Still a staggering number of people that are well engaged in Destiny. You may have left and left for good and that's OK. You may have been turned off by some things about how the game is and that's OK, it's great that you left. What's not good or Ok is coming into a thread about a game you no longer have interest in only bitch moan and complain about a franchise you've made it well known that you have no intentions of returning to.

So for the love of gaming go find an article where you can contribute to positively ... like the quantum break article...

**On topic**

Good to hear another large expansion the size of Taken King is on its way, and it also seems to confirm Kotaku's report that Destiny 2 is now a 2017 release. I hope it's a next gen only release.

[Pongwater]

"Are you naysayers done?"

When you make a point of struggling against reality your work is never done.

[freshslicepizza]

why wouldn't they make a sequel? destiny is a long term investment and they can get away with expensive dlc packs and also $60 game sales.

if you invest 500 million into a franchise you are not going to just keep updating the game. it's not a mmo with a subscription. dlc will only cater to those who keep the game and that number is falling more and more and dlc sales are not a 1-1 ratio. a game like world of warcraft they can monitor sales better and see who is likely to keep paying for the expansions.

[TimelessDbz]

Why does it bother you . That millions are enjoying the game?

[bouzebbal]

Activision only cares about cash, you must have noticed this by now...

Because that will only concern a small % of people who bought it.. A full episode will for sure catch those people's attention somehow..

[jerethdagryphon]

I thought destiny was meant to be a long term platform

[theDivision]

Sounds like your looking for the division.

[Intentions]

Wonder if the Destiny Sequel will have Disc Locked Content like the first/current one. lol.

[Gamer4life13]

Honesty I'm not buying the sequel after 3 months have passed and see what content they are realeasing after the game.

[ZaWarudo]

They should stick to the current base game and continue to update it instead of doing a full blown sequel.

[pompombrum]

In before Bungie get accused of cutting content from the Sequel for this year's expansion.

[NotanotherReboot]

I wonder if Destiny 2 will be console exclusive likes its predecessor, or come to PC as well.

[The7Reaper]

Don't worry you only missed Bungie and Activision bending people over the table and making them walk funny afterwards you're part of the lucky few.

[AizenSosuke]

Destiny 2 !? interesting!

[NotanotherReboot]

You're surprised...?

[AizenSosuke]

@Frinker

Honestly at this point NO! now I just wanted to sound exciting did it worked?.

[ninsigma]

Good. Going a whole year between ttk and destiny 2 would have been stupid. Interested in what the dlc will be and what the future of the games has for the players.

[phoenixwing]

Destiny never has enough content for what it is. I'd rather just play borderlands 2 in multiplayer. I'm not buying destiny 2. Although I'll be the first to admit they got the feel of the gunplay right off the bat though.

[nitus10]

Well Bungie did do the Halo games as well as quite few other shooter and tactics games so I would have been surprised if they did not get the gun-play right.

[vickers500]

They got the gunplay perfect. I've never played another shooter that plays as well as Destiny does. Along with the loot system (which they hired psychologists to ensure was addicting enough to keep people hooked), I think the gunplay was one of the biggest reasons people (such as myself) kept playing.

[Der_Kommandant]

"Activision Publishing plans to release an innovative new Call of Duty game from its studio, Infinity Ward, the makers of the Modern Warfare series."

"innovative"

[n4rc]

yup.. same old listen server setup on the same ol "heavily modified engine" but the birds will fly up to you this year

[kaizokuspy]

I'll end up getting destiny 2. I'm weak, but at least ceo of bungie resigned and hopefully they will get destiny 2 right. They'll need a lofty open beta to bring who they lost back though

[BlackWolf12]

Actually I'd say having ANY kind of beta would be a mistake.

The previous beta did nothing but set expectations unreasonably high.

[kaizokuspy]

It was lacking in so much, that should have been an indicator, but hey I'll listen to the out cries more now.

[BlackWolf12]

Is there anyone on this website that isn't a total sociopathic cynical pessimist, and can actually keep their mouths shut long enough for people to enjoy something

No?

Didn't think so.

[Relientk77]

Hopefully Destiny 2 is good

[NicSage]

I'm wondering how they will get people to quit Destiny and move to Destiny 2, Unless they shut the servers down....

[kaizokuspy]

That'd be a low blow for sure

[Jmanzare]

They will probably continue to support destiny with events.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

So , just a guess , Destiny's next expansion coming out between June -September 2016?

[NeoGamer232]

Fool me once, shame on you...

Fool me twice, shame on me...

I won't be fooled twice Bungie.

[Omeganex9999]

Fool me once, shame on me, but teach a man to fool me and I'll be fooled for the rest of my life!

[gums007]

Dear. Mr. Perfect Neogamer232

Maybe you're a just a fool for not giving people second chances...?

[NeoGamer232]

I didn't say I wouldn't buy a Destiny 2...

But, I definitely won't buy it on day one. Will wait for reviews and see the game in action myself, then decide.

I bought Destiny on Day One based on Bungie's track record with Halo. They have to earn my trust next time.

[FaintlyThere]

It's funny how everyone keeps blaming Bungie, Blaming Bungie but everyone knows Activision is one of the worst publishers of all time. They have a long history of taking great games and turning them into utter garage.

I doubt this is really Destiny's fault and is more of contract issue.

I have read and listened to a lot of Destiny's old concepts. It really could have been an industry changing game on many levels but Activision cares more about marketing then it does game play. Just look at what happened to Tony Hawk and Call of Duty.

Bungie is a company I would back any day, they do care about the gamers and have always listened to them, I mean one of my favorite games of all-time is Halo:Reach and that's the one game Bungie was allowed almost total control over, it was their swan song and fans loved it.

I wish Bungie had total control over this game, it would've been completely different but I will continue to play, I have yet to give up hope

[jdiggitty]

That company you remember is gone. Many of their best people are at 343 and they forced out the rest (Staten, O'Donnell)
Sure, blame Activision, but Bungie signed that contract. They got in bed with Activision and handed over control, which if you think about it, was a pretty shitty thing to do after fighting so hard to gain independence from Microsoft.

Their condescending, smug attitude has been on display for awhile now. And not only that, it's been proven they routinely misrepresent things and flat out lie to their players.

I played the crap out of Destiny. I certainly got my moneys worth and found a great clan I'm a part of because of the game so I have no ax to grind. In fact, I just got done with a couple crucible matches just now. I'm just stating the facts as I see them regarding the issue you brought up.

This company is no longer trustworthy. And that's fine as long as you know what you're dealing with. Wasting $60-$100 isn't the end of the world after all. But if you read up on the O'Donnell lawsuit decisions, Bungie lost on almost every count. You may want to back Bungie for the products they release but I certainly wouldn't back them for their character any longer cause it's pretty clear they're a bunch of a$$holes now

[MasterD919]

Go to hell, Guardians.

[WafflesID]

Never again....never again.

[holdmyown83]

i can't wait for the expansion BUT Im very salty so F bungie and activision for the shade shit they do. I understand it's an ever evolving game but you just have to communicate with the community better.

[Omeganex9999]

Destiny: The only game on earth that can gets you millions even though nobody likes it/is playing it.*

*according to the internet

[WellyUK]

Hate it all you want Destiny has been a success and has a solid player base. I don't think it's great either but I can see why people play it. Who am I to say what people can and can't play.

[amnalehu]

Destiny was and still is fun for me. Most of the people that complain about destiny logged 25+ hours into it. I think they got their moneys worth. Also most of the people that complain about Destiny never even completed the Vault of Glass, which is arguably the the best content in the entire game.

[gums007]

So true! I'm willing to bet that 95% of the people with highly negative comments have never even tried a raid or played any of the Taken King.

Just goes to show you how many sheep there are on this website.

[MannGamer]

This time I will wait for the definitive version that will come in 2018 or 2019 with all the DLC for $40.
I have spent $60 for the first game + $35 for the Expension then got the taken king for $20 on sales during the holidays. Since I have 3 other of my friends playing this game it was fun playing with them and I really have spend a lot of hours in this game. But I can't help feeling like I have been cheated in paying $120 for a game that could have been available for much less and at lauch

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Activision sure knows how to kill off some good franchises!

[svoulis]

The amount of hate for this game really baffles me. Mainly because hate breeds popularity. Destiny is not catering to a "type" of person and thats the biggest issue with the game.

People who are bad at pvp will complain about pvp. People who have lives that involve more than gaming, will complain about the grinding. People who don't have friends to play the game with will complain about the lack of matchmaking for raids and overall difficulty of the game.

Bungie is trying to cater to so many different types of people, and they have yet to find that "Sweet Spot".

I have put about 3000 hours into the game maybe closer to 3500 at this point. Yes a lot of time, but i had friends to play with, raid groups to raid with every week, things to chase, guns to get, gear to get. It was fun. Right now its not as fun because they nerfed the "Desire" to chase (with 3 of coin). They also ruined the grind by removing upgrade materials (because people didnt want to just get shards to upgrade gear in raids).

The problem with Destiny at the end is simple. It had/has an identity crisis. People don't know what they were getting into. People bought it thinking it was a SP game (and it really isnt).
When you aren't clear with the audience you are attracting you will in fact have to change things and cater to a much larger crowd.

In the most literal meaning

"You can't satisfy everyone"

and thats just that.

Heres hoping they find that balance for Year 3.

[corroios]

Just one DLC this year. Huge mistake….

[IceKoldKilla]

Well they have to make a sequel. Unless they hired another team to do DLC. I think CoD had that at times. Another group made DLC or helped while most of the team did the sequel.

[IceKoldKilla]

Like I stated before here, I'm a huge fan of Destiny and continue to play. But they need to start voicing out more about their future instead of being quiet. And add bigger content/DLC. I think what hurt the vanilla game is the whole rumored chaos that went on durig development. No one seems to talk about it anymore. It was pretty much proven but will never be admitted obviously. People left/were fired and the development changed half way through. That paired with it being a new IP they didn't know how it would pan out in a year + it being developed for last-gen really limited them. Hopefully Destiny 2 is current gen only and better overall. They always seem to fuck up something when they fix something else. But overall I still enjoy the game. No micro-transactions please. Emotes are fine. Not for me though.

[geekspodcast]

Pretty glad to hear this, actually. A bunch of my friends and my Dad love playing it, but after you get through the raids it's kind of boring having a high-level character unless you love Destiny's multiplayer. Glad I don't have to wait until Destiny 2 for some content that's more engaging than Crimson Doubles. (Not that I don't appreciate in-game events)

[mochachino]

I had 2 friends who played the game. One got fed up spending 15-40 minutes on Friday night trying to manually match make and going to 3rd party sites and quit.

Games no fun at all with less than three people.

And the grind was getting boring anyways.

I did have fun with the game before it became a snooze fest.

[S2Killinit]

YES. I knew IT

[InTheZoneAC]

so destiny 2 is going to be 75% empty with room just for expansions...just like destiny 1

it's going to be destiny 1 all over again, just new weapons. Repeat the exact same formula.

Weapon balance for PVP will continue to be what bungie wants it to be rather than actually making everything balanced. That means pulse, scout, shotgun and snipers rule all and auto rifles and handcannons will be shooting nerf darts while being blindfolded and fusion rifles will shoot so slow it'll make you wish you had no land beyond instead

[Tankbusta40]

Destiny 2 could be the greatest game ever created... But I will buy it used