Sony: "All PS4 Owners are Ready for VR"

VRFocus reports on Dr. Richard Marks saying at the Vision Summit 2016  "All PS4 owners are ready for VR".

[Hoffmann]

No, I am not ready yet :-(

[DragonDDark]

My body is ready! http://wifflegif.com/gifs/3...

[ShadowKnight]

My mind is ready

[bradfh]

My wallet isn't ready yet

[Kingthrash360]

My wallet is unsure....but likly not.
My mind is also unsure
My body....is always ready!

[b163o1]

What is this VR you speak of, and what evils shall it bring into my life XD.

I can't speak for anyone else but I'm ready, wallet in all. I don't understand how people can buy phones that cost 6-7 hundred dollars yearly and whine about something that cost around 4-5 hundred for a decent life cycle... ($_$)

[SonyWarrior]

Im ready cant wait to try out all the new games that come out at launch for it too. going to be a step up from the only VR i tried so far (google cardboard)

[kevnb]

@b163o1
we use our phones hours every day, some of us way too much. a vr helmet, most of us will probably only use it once in a while.

[badz149]

This is something only Sony with their PS4s can say. Can't do the same with Oculus or Vive. I really hope VR will take off and will get continuous supports from all devs. No, not just because Sony is behind it, but because the immersion is unparalleled.

[Narutone66]

Any new media that the porn industry supports will likely succeeds.

[amnalehu]

My Virtual body is ready.

[bouzebbal]

PS4 are VR ready? YES
Am i ready? Big time NO.
Other than Ace Combat 7 i see nothing else worth the investment.
And this time i'm going to wait 2 years to see how much support it will get to see if it will be the same as Vita with good first party support over the first year and nothing later on..

[S2Killinit]

Iam totally ready. BUT i think what Sony is saying is that all PS4 owners only need the headset to get into VR.

[MoveTheGlow]

@br163o1

It's called "carrier companies subsidizing the cost of a phone." I don't think Playstation Plus is going to foot 2/3 of the bill for a VR helmet.

Small installments and insidiously overpriced phone plans are a little easier to swallow than a $400-500 immediate purchase, especially if you don't have great credit.

[Kidmyst]

I'm ready, wallet could be with planning, take the wife out for a nice dinner, take her clothes shopping, then tell her what I want to buy with a smile... Who am I kidding, i'll just buy it and go "look what I got!" Better to ask for forgiveness than permission sometimes.

[SaveMeJebus]

I'm ready to try it first. Then I'll decide if I'm ready to buy it.

[GrandpaSnake]

I want to try it then i want to try to buy it. Not sure if any of that will happen, most individuals seem to be interested and i think that should be enough though.

[jmac53]

I tried it and I would buy it dependant on cost and game support.

[DLConspiracy]

Me too. I also want to try both the Occulus and Vive.

Something I think people are just assuming is that all these VR headsets will perform equally and the only difference is the price. Which cant be true. If both Vive and Occulus need semi high end rigs to run it. Then that makes me wonder about PSVR quality. It's an honest concern but nobody will agree with me.

VR may just need some time to develop and grow. It may be best to wait for all of them.

[IamTylerDurden1]

@DLconspiracy

The reason why PSVR is comparable in quality, yet runs on a weaker PS4 is bc of the processing box that comes with PSVR. It's about half a wii in size and it helps give the extra boost that PS4 is lacking (compared to a mid-high rig). It does other things like split the image and output it to your tv as well.

[TheCommentator]

It should say, "All PS4's are ready for VR." PS4 owners? MAYBE 10 to 15 percent.

[Fishy Fingers]

The point he's trying to make is that PS4 owners won't require any extra hardware or investment. No GPU upgrades etc like you'll expect a lot of PC gamers to do if they're considering VR.

But I agree, the headline could easily be read out of context.

[deafdani]

@Fishy Fingers: except for the cost of the VR headset. And presumably, Move controllers and Playstation Camera, to improve the experience.

But even if all you need is the VR headset... that's already extra hardware / investment.

[ZeroX9876]

@TheCommentator

count me in this 10-15% :)

I was considering the rift before I saw the specs, since my PC is still playing most games at high-very high (not ultra). After reading the needed hardware, I had to completely abandon the idea of getting the rift and I turned my attention to the PSVR.

I'll try to make lots of friends try it, since most of them aren't ready to spend so much money on additional hardware without trying it first.

[Aenea]

@deafdani Yeah! PC owners don't need to buy all that! They have it included inside their PC for years! /s

The point is that many PC owners need to upgrade their PC first and then buy a VR headset. PS4 owners only need to buy the VR headset...

[derrickgott007]

10% of 34 million is still a damn successful support rate.

[donthate]

It may be that is what he meant, but that doesn't fix the issue of that most PS4 market is sub $350 to buy into the console and is sensitive to $50 price drop.

So they might be ready, but they might not be willing to pay $400-500 for an experience that is questionable with very little content. Heck, even the future content is questionable at this point.

Personally, I would like to see VR, but I think PS VR has a lot of headwind against it.

[Hairy Chewie]

@donthate There is no way Sony will offer the PSVR at over $400, at least for the stand alone unit. They know they need to move units to create a user base for all the game content that will be created and where most of their profits will come from.

The great thing about VR is that it can really wow people who have never tried it before. I think if Sony get enough out there into peoples houses it could really catch on.

[DarXyde]

For the love of gaming, it's very obviously a reference to hardware compatibility.

Did your really have to be literal in the off chance that it becomes overwhelmingly successful?

[Unspoken]

So there is no break out box? Additional processor for the PSVR? Everyone has a move controller as well? When did they start including all the VR accessories in the base console package?

The graphics are going to be crap compared to Oculus, and there is nothing any PS4 owner can do about it with their current hardware. You can't upgrade consoles. So of course they are ready, they have no choice. lol

[TheSaint]

Try reading the topic instead of just the title.

It means that only the VR headset is needed, no other hardware necessary.

[yeahright2]

Well since they're aiming to sell just over a million, at 10-15% of the 30+ million PS4's out there (probably 40+ by the time PSVR releases) they'll blow their estimations out of the water.

[butchertroll]

They mean PS4 as platform. Every PS4 is ready for VR, but as a owner i'm not. Also not every owner has a beefy PC for Oculus or Vive. Quote from article :

"With millions of PS4 owners already out there that might give SCE a major advantage over rivals, Oculus Rift and HTC Vive which require beefy PC’s to run the head-mounted displays"

[donthate]

Most PC gamers aren't even close to having what VR needs, but the good news is at least that the section that do isn't afraid to spend money on gaming. If they spend thousands of dollars on a PC and regularly upgrades, I can see them buying a VR headset and as prices gets lower....

However, console owners are on the opposite spectrum where the buy-in (of the console) is super low already. They are sensitive to $50 price drops. Then how on earth is VR going to catch up in price to a console? Let alone VR being cheaper than the console itself as an accesory?

Obviously things get cheaper over time, but we are talking now. Not 5-years from now....

[Neonridr]

@donthate - agree with you completely.

Console gamers are finnicky about buying peripherals, especially ones that may cost as much as the console itself.

There is tons of potential absolutely, but if you think Sony is just going to take a huge loss on these things and give them away you are living in a strange world.

[Unspoken]

Exactly. Especially expensive peripherals. Look how hard the PS3 took to sell at launch even with all the hype behind it.

[Utalkin2me]

Well im excited to try it for sure. Only on the best console this generation, IMO =)

[Godmars290]

Your wallet isn't ready you mean. Especially since a price has yet to be announced.

Otherwise the whole point is that PSVR is plug and play versus likely need to upgrade and configure a PC for Oculus.

[JVIV]

My wallet isn't ready

[showtimefolks]

I think what this means is you won't need extra $1500 pc to use the device. If you have a Ps4 than you are ready to enjoy (if interested)

If Sony prices this right they can get a substantial install base

Even if only 15 to 20% of ps4 owners buy VR than it wi,l be a huge success

[Saranya]

$99 for PSVR box.

[XanderZane]

Exactly what Kingthrash360 said. I know my wallet definitely isn't ready. I won't be rushing out and buying it. I'll be taking the same approach I took with PSTV & PSNow. Wait on the sidelines and watching.

[jerethdagryphon]

This is in reference to the number of people who. Are ready for occulus rift by hardware state

[IamTylerDurden1]

If u own a PS4 ur technically ready to run PSVR. Every PS4 owner has the specs to optimally run PSVR. You can't say that about PC owners and Oculus.

[Bleucrunch]

I welcome new things as its an opportunity for me to grow as a person and stay sharp. With that said I welcome VR and all of its potential because I dwell in possibility. #LetsDoThisVR

[Elda]

I agree..I don't want anything to do with it on my PS4.

[Neonridr]

what about the PS Camera though? Doesn't everyone have to own that optional accessory?

[DragonDDark]

Bundled?

[Neonridr]

Perhaps, but then what about all of us who already own the camera. I would hate to be paying twice for something I only need 1 of.

[Ricegum]

@neon

The camera will likely practically be given away in the bundle, chances are almost all of the cost for the bundle will be the headset.

Or perhaps they'll do a standalone headset.

[Neonridr]

@Unreal01 - yeah a standalone headset model would be a nice option for those of us who bought the camera already.

[Hairy Chewie]

Im thinking there will be two bundles. One standalone and one with the camera + 2× move controllers

[KiwiViper85]

Why is everyone saying camera plus 2 move controllers?

The games are going to be played with a DS4, 2 move controllers don't provide enough input options, unless you want to be playing VR Dance Central

[Hairy Chewie]

@kiwi yes, a lot will use the ds4. But a lot of games similar to job simulator or the heist have you using two move controllers to simulate your hands. I think a lot of new comers to VR will get hooked on being able to grab stuff in VR

[Fez]

I picked up my dusty move controllers the other day. They are actually so well designed in terms of ergonmoics. Glad they will be used for VR as a different experience to a standard controller.
Improved games like Heavy Rain and RE5 immensly.

[pandaboy]

move did not improve resi 5 fez

[GribbleGrunger]

Yes, I'm not sure if that statement is taken out of context. I'd like to see his comments prior to and after that statement.

[IamTylerDurden1]

They may have a $50 cheaper bundle without the camera, and if not trade it in.

[Neonridr]

let's hope

[Silly gameAr]

I'll give it a shot. Why not.

[Der_Kommandant]

My wallet is getting ready!

[Bebedora]

All is a generalising term, is it not?

[G20WLY]

Not if he's talking about the technology, rather than people being prepared to buy it. And I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.

That said, I'm officially ready and waiting for PSVR.

[jon_snow]

Make it 299$ it will be Day 1.

[Unspoken]

Too expensive. $100-199. I own a console and there is no way I would spend that much in accessory. $299 is a console with some games bundled in!

[KiwiViper85]

I too would find $300 hard to justify.

And in my currency that would be more like $400...

[KilKarazy]

You're the exact reason that VR is not for Consoles

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

Sony already stated 2 things about the price.
1: it will be priced like a new console.
2: sony is prepared to sell PSVR at a loss in order to move units.

I for one am definitely buying PSVR as soon as possible.

[DarXyde]

"Too expensive"?

Then what, take shortcuts on quality so you can berate the hardware?

You own a console. Cool. There's no way you would spend that much on an accessory. Fine. $299 is a console with some games bundled in. Technically, for the price of Kinect, you can buy a PS2 with a good amount of games and you'd get more out of that than you would with a Kinect.

My question is, with such stark opposition of PSVR, why in the seven circles of Hell are you even in here?

We get it, you're not buying VR. Frankly, I doubt any of us care. Some of us are day one, some of us will adopt when more content becomes available, and some of us are willing to wait it out as skeptics, myself included.

For a person who "appears to show no interest" in PlayStation VR, you're awfully opinionated.

[KilKarazy]

I did not mean for that to be a derogatory thing. I've been saying all along that VR is best for a market that is familiar with spending a good chunk of change on hardware. For console owners, there's really one expense and that's games. PC gamers upgrade their rig with new graphics cards, CPUs, etc. The console market is not the market for VR until it comes down to the $199 max price point.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

But are their wallets?

[PoSTedUP]

'Said it before n ill say it again: im turning the PSVR into one of thoes beer-drinky hats. Maybe ill even sit alone in my closet. Welcome to the future ladies and 'gents.

[joeorc]

Neonridr + 6m ago
"what about the PS Camera though? Doesn't everyone have to own that optional accessory?"

That depends on what Software you are running in the VR environment, needing head tracking or Motion control tracking.

Useage as a 2nd screen can be done such as dual shock game pad + PlayStation VR. This would in fact be viable except for some that may for example of games that would require head tracking or motion control's.

Even than some can be made to operate without head tracking requirement & just game pad dual shock 4 support. Which is a standard control scheme with every PS4 anyway & it does not need the PSEye to have connected to operate. The pseye is to track the head motion & tracking of the dual shock 4 gamed pad as well as the playstation move or the playstation VR headset. It can still be operated without. But the games that require head tracking or motion tracking would of course without other programmed options offered as an impute would be excluded of course without the PSeye @ or Playstation Move being a requirement for the game or Application.

You can still use the systems as a 2nd screen to play PS4 Games on.

VR units can be used to operate as a wide screen Theater mode for game's, and in bonus if the game is 3D that also is viable and even gamers or anyone that wears Perscription glasses can still wear and use the playstation VR headset.

*I see I have a disagreement already with what I stated, what I stated is true. Or has the person who disagreement know otherwise? If not your just disagreeing to disagree and not have any new information to share.

If you do , by all means share, if not? Than it it just shows how much you care about putting out correct information.

[joeorc]

According to Sony Japan honcho Shuhei Yoshida, the visor-style prototype includes a 5-inch LCD capable of delivering 1920 x 1080 pixels (1080p) to each eye (Sony calls it “1920×RGB×1080”). It has a 90 degree field of view; an accelerometer and gyroscopic sensors; USB and HDMI ports; and it works with the PlayStation Camera alongside Sony’s DualShock 4 or PlayStation Move controllers. The headset also features Sony’s new 3D audio tech, capable of generating omnidirectional sound that triggers based on your head’s orientation.

Again see the term

"Works With "

That's does not mean you "need"

http://time.com/31869/sonys...

It has a gyro & aaccelerometer in the HMD! The camera allows even better 3Ddepth, and position tracking, the PlayStation Moves also has a magna meter in the Move controllers. Again it adds including more functions extra tracking to provide development teams more options. But the PlayStation move controllers are not a requirement for PlayStation VR. Just like Vive or OculusRift touch motion controllers.

They are options to be there for developers to use.

[Neonridr]

fair enough. I was under the impression you needed the camera as the PSVR has those lights that are read by the camera all over them, just like the Move lights.

Only problem with your statement is eventually you will need the camera for a certain game.

I highly doubt people are buying PSVR's just to use them as a second screen. Buy a Vita for considerably less.

[joeorc]

And if there is games that require such motion controls or head tracking that gamers would want, than that's again up to the gamer.

As for buying a PlayStation Vita over a playstation VR, yes that indeed is another option, but again that one requires another purchase also, and with playstation VR being it works with every playstation 4 game, that is Also an option just like remote play is also another option for extending the PlayStation Eco system part just another option for the PS4 by itself.

VR games and Applications are just one more options to be offered with the PlayStation Eco system.

Also the same could be said of any of the VR headsets the may require their motion control wands for games that may require them, OculusRift touch controller's do not come with the OculusRift, just like the Move for the PlayStation does not ship with a PlayStation 4 the option is there, but a control impute is still there with both HMD headsets, the game control pad.

@
Do the Rift and Vive support full motion tracking like PSVR can do with the PS Camera and Move controllers?

Isn't that something optional either?

Or is that already included in the package?

They can track head motion and they both offer tracking of motion wand controllers.

But again in OculusRifts case like PlayStation does not come with Their motion control wands included.

The Vive also has tracking like the other two and it currently is the more expensive higher end HMD out of the three.

[Aenea]

Do the Rift and Vive support full motion tracking like PSVR can do with the PS Camera and Move controllers?

Isn't that something optional either?

Or is that already included in the package?

[Neonridr]

Rift includes the headset, camera for head tracking / positional placement, xbox one controller and wireless adapter for the PC. The Touch controllers are not included. But I never asked about them anyways, I am fully aware that those are a separate purchase.

What I was merely getting at is the original statement that you don't NEED a camera. That is true, but then you are limited to your VR experience as you can't sample every type of game. If I buy a Rift I get everything I need to use the headset to its fullest, I don't have to buy another accessory afterwards. To me that is kind of dumb.

Now Sony may remedy that by including the camera with the headset, but since I already own the PS Camera, I would hate to have to factor in the price of that when making my purchase.

Perhaps a standalone headset for those who already own the camera would be nice.

[yeahright2]

Yes, but right now there are games that require Kinect and require move, or require an online connection, or require multiplayer. Same thing, if you want to play any of those, you have to buy an accessory.

[Neonridr]

@Princekai13 - the last thing you want to make someone do after buying a $300-400 accessory is tell them that they have to spend more on top of that to utilize a certain feature. It's bad enough that Rift and PSVR will require additional purchases for controllers since the Touch or Move controllers do not come with it. But at least the Rift comes with the camera.

[MartinB105]

The whole basis of joeorc's comment is wrong. The Camera is REQUIRED for PSVR; it is NOT optional. There is NO situation in which PSVR will "operate without headtracking". Even used as a "second screen", PSVR will simulate this second screen within a virtual room and head-tracking would still be required to simulate looking within the virtual room.

The fact that the comment has more Agrees than Disagrees just shows how ignorant most people still are about VR.

[joeorc]

@MartinB105 + 4h ago
The whole basis of joeorc's comment is wrong. The Camera is REQUIRED for PSVR; it is NOT optional. There is NO situation in which PSVR will "operate without headtracking". Even used as a "second screen", PSVR will simulate this second screen within a virtual room and head-tracking would still be required to simulate looking within the virtual room.

The fact that the comment has more Agrees than Disagrees just shows how ignorant most people still are about VR.

Oh really?

Show me where Sony has out right stated what you just stated!

First of all the PlayStation VR has itself.

Please read this real carefully let it sink in real good because what you stated, and the CEO of Sony states otherwise!

"According to Sony Japan honcho Shuhei Yoshida, the visor-style prototype includes a 5-inch LCD capable of delivering 1920 x 1080 pixels (1080p) to each eye (Sony calls it “1920×RGB×1080”). It has a 90 degree field of view; an accelerometer and gyroscopic sensors; USB and HDMI ports; and it works with the PlayStation Camera alongside Sony’s DualShock 4 or PlayStation Move controllers. The headset also features Sony’s new 3D audio tech, capable of generating omnidirectional sound that triggers based on your head’s orientation."

[ It has a 90 degree field of view; an accelerometer and gyroscopic sensors]

See this? These are independent of the freaking camera's sensors. IE: you do not need freaking Head tracking from an external camera tracking the HMD in order to look around you have an [accelerometer and gyroscopic sensors] that Gyroscopic sensor & Accelerometer allow such how do you think Samsung gear VR works? You do know there is no freaking external camera set up to track the HMD headset, in order to look around in a series of virtual environments.

Have you forgotten Axis dynamic sensor drifting, and how it plays in external camera tracking object's?

Because if you would know that, its not the freaking external camera that is required or in most cases is not needed or does that can the camera help in better tracking, sure you need external light sourced points for the vector of the tracking to get the best tracking. See SIGGRAPH 2004 keynote by Dr. Richard Marks on YouTube video to see what I am taking about.

So if the camera does not have enough light, how does a compute environment know your position in an Axis? Be looking up or any 360 degree center of you in the environment?

Remember there is no light for the camera to focus on the HMD wearing person. Think about it.

[joeorc]

Also you are it seems getting confused on the difference in what the tracking of the external camera does. In its tracking..its positioning tracking , the system can still be used in the VR environment to look around in a 360 degrees view. See the Oculus explicit defined explanation.

http://www.roadtovr.com/luc...

[Neonridr]

@joeorc - again, by not having the camera you are limiting yourself to your VR experience. Any game that requires positional tracking will require the camera. So it is a purchase you are more than likely going to have to make eventually. I would rather them just include it from the beginning to not confuse people down the road.

As for the agrees / disagrees it has less to do with the actual statement and more to do that it isn't praising Sony left and right.

I could make a statement like a high end PC is more powerful than the PS4 and I would get a ton of disagrees.

[joeorc]

@Neonridr + 32m ago
"@joeorc - again, by not having the camera you are limiting yourself to your VR experience. Any game that requires positional tracking will require the camera. So it is a purchase you are more than likely going to have to make eventually. I would rather them just include it from the beginning to not confuse people down the road. There was some difference in using a VR HMD without a camera tracking your HMD and the HMD using a camera to add in additional tracking functionality to the VR environment."

And as I pointed out, that again not every game with the need for position head tracking for VR, the point is that you get extra points of tracking added, which of course is better, but again not required. Think about this Since mobile is the largest VR install base platform right now the VR content made does not have position head tracking.

That again does not mean that out the gate OculusRift, Vive or PlayStation VR's content will be heavy head tracking influenced off the batt just because the component is there it does not get included. It just means that more development & content creators "can"

The point being is that without head tracking "position" VR works fine on content that does not require it. And currently, there is a lot of VR content without it as a matter of fact the majority of VR content does not contain positional headtracking. Would it be better if position head tracking was included in all of VR and that was the standard? Yes , no argument..but again what Dr. Marks was pointing out is quite true. PlayStation VR would indeed work without the extra 3 points of tracking added, by the camera. The camera Also allows AR overlays, again an added function in VR. So its not just for position tracking only.

But as I pointed out, developers again have to take advantage of such not just on PlayStation VR but on other such HMD's also. Just because the OculusRift does not ship with the touch controller's does mean they will support such or that they would not support such ; it means developers can if they want to. Based on their game or application vision.

Example: Samsung Gear VR is VR, but does not have an External camera tracking the HMD headset's position.
All VR HMD'S today can work without external cameras tracking the HMD's positioned Space, but having the camera tracking such provides more immersive experience while the user is inside the VR environment.

Example Oculus talks about this very difference between having external cameras added to track your HMD.
http://www.roadtovr.com/luc...

Remember the PlayStation Eye does the same thing , its tracks the LED's positions on the HMD for positions & can add in AR effect overlays on the HMD if such was needed, like a AR sword overlay on the playstation Move

Now what oculus talked about Mobile position tracking inside out
Another Company Sony owns Softkinetic is doing just that though
http://uploadvr.com/softkin...

Again just because the technology is or is not included in the package does not mean yes or no in support it just means they "can"

Will they is the Question, and based on how many PlayStation 4 cameras have sold already will determine that differences in "will they" is: developers 1st, 2nd and 3rd party developers. And what we know is right now plenty of developers & publishers are making VR content without such head tracking needed or required already.

[MartinB105]

I'm aware that VR can be done without positional tracking (I own a Gear VR already). Sony won't do that with the PSVR though.

[PurpHerbison]

Nope.

[Wallstreet37]

Im ready!!!! I will be a day one consumer like i was for my PS3, Ps4 and vita and never regretted it. Sony are hardware wizards and make great software so im really excited to delve into the vr world with PSVR.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I'm pumped to check it out. Still have to be sold on it. But am eager to try it. That Deep Sea diving demo with the great white gave me a nerd gasm!

[shammgod]

I am definitely interested! Devs will be able to do some cool sh@@ with VR.

[ps5fanboy]

I'll give up smoking for a month so I can get the headset. I have everything else.

[SaveMeJebus]

Cigarettes?

[ps5fanboy]

No I hate tobacco , don't worry , not crack!

[SaveMeJebus]

Good ;)

[Wallstreet37]

Dont put that bud down, its too good. Just game on vr while your in a zone lol relaxed and a virtual zone.

[Gamist2dot0]

Announce the release date and price already! Rrrraaawwwrrrr!...

[BossBattle]

As a PS4 owner....I am not ready for VR.

[WeAreLegion]

As someone who loves VR, why?

[Kiwi66]

Maybe because its , and this might sound crazy , his choice as maybe not everyone wants to buy it did you ever think of that

[WeAreLegion]

I did, actually. In fact, he states that exact thing in his comment. Good eye, Kiwi66! I was worried no one else would catch that BossBattle DOES NOT WANT TO BUY VR. I was simply asking him why. Did you ever think of that?

[Kiwi66]

Strange as looking at his comment he only says he's not ready , i'm trying to see where it says he doesn't want to buy one as i take his comment to mean that he may get one at a later date

[Jag-T1000]

How dare you speak for everyone!

[DragonDDark]

He didn't.

[Austin48]

Mayby

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Does that mean all current owners are getting a free unit? Because that's the only way I'm getting one at release, if at all.

[_LarZen_]

I'm all lubed up and ready.

[AgentSmithPS4]

Someone is ready for their Summer Lesson.

[MasterCornholio]

I need to try it first. I'm hopeful though.

[Number-Nine]

im not. ill stick to traditional gaming.

[WeAreLegion]

But why?

[G20WLY]

Cos it's hip to hate! ;)

[Next_gen_2015]

@WeAreLegion

Maybe because not everyone is happy about having a device strapped to their face? lol

[DragonDDark]

@next
You tried it? It's actually quite comfortable.

[Number-Nine]

There are a few things;

1. The price of the device is most likely going to be expensive. Even if I did have the money, I'm still not sure I would get it because....

2. How much support is this going to get, especially from the 3rd party? I've been burned by similar devices like this before like the Move, or that 3D movement. I've also seen the Kinect fail all because these devices do not get the support. Maybe if they establish this, it would become more enticing.

3. Most importantly, I don't see anything ever beating out the best "accessory" for a console, and that is the controller. It gives the necessary physical feedback and the best control over any wand waving, gesture motioning, and screen touching device
on the market.

[Next_gen_2015]

@dragonddark

i prefer to see my surroundings when gaming.

[Ozmoses]

Not sold, just yet... there's the potential price and a few other issues....

VR sickness is a very real issue.. if you've ever known anyone with a case of vertigo or sea sickness or something along those lines then I would say this wouldn't be a good investment for them, that's for sure.

most people will probably be able to have 45 min-1 hour under the VR helmet before they start to feel a little bit weird or queasy or some other sympton.

I could be wrong.. but I know the up all night gameplay sessions probably won't happen with the first iteration of VR systems...

a lot of people won't be able to handle the overpowering sensations that it puts on the body/mind for that long of a time period.
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edit - lol disagree all you want.. I'm not going to risk spewing up chunks all over my precious gaming equipment.

[WeAreLegion]

Thousands of people already have VR headsets and that's not the case.

[AgentSmithPS4]

It seems like you worry too much and don't bother learning the truth (sickness is not a problem with PSVR). Maybe the rare person would have a problem but it would probably be temporary until they get their "sea legs." Humans are weak but they can adapt.

I'm getting PSVR ASAP but I will be prepared with ginger etc because in the past I've had sickness lasting less than a day (never barfed just felt bad), then I'm fine from then on unless I take a long break from gaming. Half-Life 2 and UT2003 or 2004 were the only games that ever made me sick, very temporarily.

It's not like flipping a switch, you won't just magically projectile vomit, the sickness builds up and you'll know when to stop.

[Ozmoses]

you obviously all misunderstood what I wrote...

I was specifically talking about prolonged sessions of gameplay 10+ hours... 15+ hours... I specifically mentioned long sessions.

I don't care who you are the over stimulation of the senses for that amount of time can cripple even the strongest of minds.

You hear the odd stories even now of the gamer that stayed up for 4 days and died because of a gaming binge...

Mark my words those numbers will increase with the introduction of VR technology.

You'd be a fool to dismiss the idea that it doesn't affect your health.

I specifically remember reading that every VR game will come with a mandatory warning label.

Look up Vertigo... when you start talking about things that mess with your neurological abilities it's completely feasible to question every aspect.

Not once did I say it was going to fail and not once did I bad mouth VR technology in anyway.

I simply said that VR sickness and other associated neurological disorders that can be triggered by the use of VR technology are a very real thing.

Regardless of how I try to explain it doesn't matter. If you disagree you disagree..

It's just science... Someone somewhere one of these days is going to have a horrendous medical experience caused from VR and you're going to remember this post.

[Sy_Wolf]

It won't take off for the same reasons 3DTVs didn't. Price, content, and no one wants to strap a big thing on their face for extended gameplay sessions. Plus it makes some people really sick.

[amiga-man]

Here we go again, this is nothing like 3D tv, the experience is in a totally different ballpark, VR has a WOW factor 3D tv can only dream about.

VR is here to stay.

[Sy_Wolf]

People said the exact same thing about 3D. VR isn't likely to stay because of the aformentioned issues which are similar to the issues of 3DTVs.

[WeAreLegion]

People did not say the same thing about 3D. VR is a completely different experience. There's nothing like it. It doesn't just look different.

[AgentSmithPS4]

It seems obvious that you've barely bothered learning anything at all about PSVR, it already has a lot of content (and more to come), it's very light and it's almost like its not there, price will obviously be good since they know it will fail if it's not.

This will blow your mind but I love 3D. When 3D is done right it's amazing and 3D is built into PSVR, I'll enjoy the realistic sense of depth when looking over cliffs, looking up at the gigantic dinosaurs, etc :).

Based on all the news and reviews it won't be long until the people that badmouth PSVR will get funny looks, will be seen as being jealous, a stubborn fanboy, etc.

Do you have some reason to want it to fail? I could guess based on my profile of you but I'd like to hear your side.

[kenwonobi]

People that don't know about virtual reality say this. It's not true. The device isn't all that uncomfortable. People wear helmets in the military much heavier all day long. People wear hard hats at work. Welders wear much worse. Football players, Hockey, baseball. Hours on end wearing equipment. Virtual Reality is nowhere near as uncomfortable as those things.

[Sy_Wolf]

I didn't say it was uncomfortable.

[DafunkyRebel]

Can't wait for Ace Combat 7 VR

[MegaRay]

Im not ready, VR sucks anyway.

Edit: sorry guys, my wallet stole my phone and commented...

[Tsunade]

VR sucks for you. You are not the world.

[MegaRay]

Chill and read my whole comment before getting offended xD

[gamer7804]

Sure os4 Is ready but how much will the vr unit cost?

[sdcard4gb]

Uuuuuh, nooo...

[nucky64]

i love you, sony; but, I'm NOT interested in VR.

[Hold_It]

I own a PS4, Xbox One, New 3DS, PC, Wii, PS3, PS2, Dreamcast and a Vita and I will never buy VR.

I am ready to read about people getting permanent eye damage though, because we all remember how great Nintendo's Virtual Boy was /s

[Wallstreet37]

Virtual boy in no capacity was virtual reality. Dont let the word "virtual" fool you. Sony will be the first company pushing the first true virtual reality headset on consoles and i commend them for the risk and push.

Furthermore many ppl have already tested and previewed psvr for hours and some for days, the verdict is in! Its definitely a true vr experience, its comfortable and safe.

I hate when ppl mentuon virtual boy in virtual reality articles, as virtual boy in no capacity was a virtual reality system.

[Gamist2dot0]

Eh. There are pessimists everywhere, and I'd say let them think it's like Virtual Boy until they get the chance to try it. For the rest of us who tried it, we want it and can't wait for it.

[DragonDDark]

You hate on everything Sony related. Cant fool Me.

[SlavisH2]

My PC is ready. Not my ps4. I just think it will be to limited by ps4 hardware. VR will evolve on pc

[Tsunade]

The only one who has a chance to make VR mainstream is Sony. VR on PC right now is for the hardcore PC loyalist willing to pay lots of money.

[skratchy]

Considering no AAA developer makes games exclusively for PC anymore, I doubt it. I expect Sony to lead VR, at first anyway, and PC will cater to those who would rather waste money on Oculus to have mediocre ports from consoles... You know, kind of like it already is :P

[SlavisH2]

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[kenwonobi]

It would be nice for it to develop anywhere. I've seen movies, videos, and games take a new direction under virtual reality. I'm hoping it just takes off.

[Tsunade]

I am so ready!

I already own a PS camera and a Move controller so I am ready to rock. I just want to know the price and what other uses apart from gaming does PSVR has.

[Relientk77]

I wanna try it first, so def not day one for me

[WickedLester]

Not me.

[skratchy]

It means you don't need to buy an extra peripherals to play VR games! Save for the headset... PS4s are "VR ready", if you will.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

So Sony think they can just say people are ready without actually letting people decide for themselves.

[AgentSmithPS4]

I didn't expect someone with your avatar to play the victim, ty for being interesting.

[Warshade]

I'm far sighted and everything is nothing but a blur when within 8 inches of my eyes. I doubt I will be able to use the new VR tech until it evolves quite a bit. (Even with my glasses, I can see anything not close completely normally.)

[DivineAssault]

Im ready but idk about every PS4 owner..

[BABY-JEDI]

I just hope all gamers give PSVR a shot before deciding. I cannot wait to try this out @ the local game store when released. I'm all for new gaming experiences 😉

[Azzanation]

What a stupid comment to make. To say every PS4 owner is ready for VR is one of the dumbest things iv read in awhile. Sounds like there expecting 40m PS4 owners to buy VR lol. No thanks.

There most likely talking about the PS4 unit being ready for VR not the gamers.

[bigjim58]

You take things out of context and say it's stupid

[AgentSmithPS4]

You just azzazzinated a straw man, you'd enjoy PSVR since it lets you do that with the move controllers using various weapons. At least in that demo I saw with the dragon and medieval stuff.

[Stogz]

Maybe you should actually read the article before commenting, it may make you look less foolish. He means that you wont need additional hardware, he doesnt say every ps4 owner wants one. But why am I wasting my time, youre a known xbox fanboy so it's pointless...

[welly300]

I'm ready just tell me the damn prise. They must know what the hell are they waiting for.

[AgentSmithPS4]

I assume they're wheeling and dealing, having highly paid social engineers/psychologists etc figure out how much people will pay, and based on tech prices dropping the longer you wait they're waiting for the best deals. I predict it won't be over $400 unless it's a big bundle version.

[whoyouwit04]

sony doing what they do best, and that is telling their fans what they want.

[malanthrax]

Indeed. Just waiting on cost.

[BigGamersSmallTalk]

I own a PS4 and I'm not interested in VR, wasn't interested in 3-D gaming either. Fads are a waste of money because they go unsupported and do a poor job at delivering big AAA experiences. So, no....not all PS4 owners are ready or want VR. Traditional controller for me.

[AgentSmithPS4]

Darn tootin' I ain't got time for their infernal machines! Them newfangled gadgets make things too easy and smooth, it ain't right.

[Zoombael]

i wasnt interested in 3d either. but im interested in VR. highly anticipating VR. it is already supported by numerous game publishers and developers AND beyond. and traditional controllers will sill be a main input device.

so... you are not talking sense here... at all.

[Trilithon]

People don't realize how much power it takes to push the REQUIRED frame rate in the left AND right eye while also achieving a DECENT level of graphical quality. Its too soon and the games are going to suck. FACT

[Orionsangel]

Name a console peripheral that was widely regarded as successful???

Sony Move = nope

Sony Eye Camera = nope

Xbox Kinetic = nope

Nintendo LightGun = nope

Other than gamepads/joysticks, there haven't been many successes... so with that said, what makes you all think that Playstation VR will be any different.

[Black0ut]

Uhhh, was the Xbox 360 Kinect not regarded as a success? I believe it was widely regarded as a successful product due it's 24 million units sold and breaking a world record in the process, not even mentioning the crazy amount of software it sold.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

[Orionsangel]

Kinect came and went. You can sell a lot of turds to gullible morons. It doesn't mean that turd is successful with it's audience or relevant. Successful would be if we were all still using it today as a normal way of gaming.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

come one it's N4G. the answer to
"what makes you all think that Playstation VR will be any different."

Should be obvious.

[Zoombael]

Since VR isnt a mere peripheral, goes beyond gaming and already has a reputation to be a game changer in everywhere imaginiable aspect- at least among those who actually experienced it and dont talk out of their asses - comparing to devices with very limited use is... just further proves that those who are trying to talk it down are talking BS.

[Orionsangel]

The way I see this latest VR craze playing out is rather simple, the hype surrounding the devices will hit a fever pitch before launch and then those of us who are tech- and gaming-obsessed will buy the headsets. We’ll like the concept for a while, but soon, the novelty will wear off and we’ll be left with little more than a headset that cuts us off from the real world and leaves us wishing for more content.

We might also discover that many of the games deliver a gimmicky feel, rather than one that’s truly appealing.

Meanwhile, the mainstream won’t pay attention one bit. The average consumer who plays Call of Duty and Madden and little else will feel odd wearing the headset and see little value in spending money on yet more hardware. The headsets will remain a niche product and eventually, they’ll go the way of the Dodo.

I hate to be a downer, but I just don’t see the form factor working anytime soon. Until I see something that’s truly game-changing (pardon the pun), I don’t see how console gaming will get replaced or even threatened by virtual reality.

I’m sure many companies think I’m wrong and will want to prove it, but if history is to be our guide, and if current consumer trends say anything, it’s that virtual reality doesn’t have the kind of mainstream attention and attraction it needs to be successful.

[Black0ut]

Not every owner is interested because not every person that buys a console wants to spend $500-600 on the accessories required to run VR... Load of BS.

I'm sure the PSVR will be wonderful and that many people WILL enjoy it, but to imply that it's a market for all is a straight up lie. Most gamers like the good old controller and screen.

[namEuser]

For the person up top talking about "people spending $600-$700 on cell phones" dont even try to compare the two...its called "contracts" so people get the devices for way lower. To get the full experience you still need, A ps4-pseye-move controllers "possibility the nunchuk as well"-and psvr...im a waiter on this one....

[melonfarm3r]

If they can sell it for $249 / £199 they will sell a tonne. One to me.

More than that and I'd think twice.

[Count_Bakula]

No.. I'll stick to third-person games and the like, thank you. I don't give a shit about BEING certain things, assassins, soldiers, Jedi, ect. I just want to experience gameplay with them.

[Silly gameAr]

Well, good thing no one is forcing you or any of the other touchy people to buy into VR. It's a choice not a necessity. Our PS4's and games will still work just fine without VR.

[KilKarazy]

I feel like it's a jab at Oculus with "Oculus ready PCs"

[Hitoemi]

Just one question. If every ps4 owners hardware are ready for VR, why does the PsVr need a separate box with its own processor to make the headset work in conjunction with the Ps4's Octacore processor?

[jznrpg]

Technically, all are ready they only need to add the headset. I am in day 1 for sure. Not everyone is going to want one, and some on the fence will decide after using it . If they ake some awesome games that get critical acclaim it will make it harder for people to holdout.

[Apocalypze]

Not gonna lie , i will probably use it to watch the dirty thingzz ;) Everyone is saying that it was an amazing experience.

[kenwonobi]

Bro. The ahem person virtually Bob's up and down in first person on your ahem. And you are watching in any direction you like. Lol.

[Segata]

I have experienced enough VR to never want it again.

[Apocalypze]

Yeah like your sega over there right.

[Scottyxboxoneandps4]

Hmm.. unsure wether im quite ready for vr just yet. Maybe if i had tried it i would be more excited for it. Hope its good but wouldnt want it to replace traditional gaming, i think theres room for both.

[II__BONE__II]

Am I crazy or didn't Sony say that Playstation VR would be for sale in the FIRST quarter of 2016?
Well here we are in Feb. March is right around the corner and I still know nothing about a release date or pricing.

[SaveMeJebus]

That's all going to be announced on March 30th Mr. Impatient. ;) So technically it's still the first quarter....barely.

[kenwonobi]

I'm ready. I'll know where I'll be the day they ask where were you when virtual reality launched? I will say I was one of the first adopters. I am ready!!!

[Tobsesan]

But can they efford it? Just announce they freaking price already... You want to launch it this year and noone can preorder it yet.

[Mike04]

I will, maybe who knows?, but it will depend on the price tag.

[Domovoi0ng]

How the hell will those underpowered consoles even handle VR, im really interested to see that.

[conanlifts]

External gpu/cpu will be included. The problem is this will increase costs.

[xtheblackparade]

Wish I could play with it..but since 3d films make my head spin already I can't imagine I'd be comfy with this. Sounds like a great adventure though.

[conanlifts]

I tried an oculus on a low power pc. Felt ill for half an hour after. Not sure how the ps vr or high power pc with oculus will vary. But i need to be careful and wait and see just in case.

[About30Ninjas]

I'm a PS4 owner and I'm not ready for VR

[Chaosdreams]

At an affordable price*

[naarmi]

wallet ready

[AgentSmithPS4]

Based on your disagrees it seems most likely that many of the "anti VR" people just don't have enough money for whatever reason so they're jealous and possibly even want it to fail, to preserve their ego and not appear poor by being one of the few that won't have VR. Who knows, it'll do fine without them.

I'm going to buy it ASAP but it wouldn't surprise me if a big unexpected bill happened before I do. I'm just happy that they did a great job with it (especially considering the probable price) and that a lot of people will use it and love it. A lot of people are ready for the future of gaming and I'm thankful to Sony for making it happen. I hope my gaming monitor lasts at least until I get it... It's a 3D monitor too ;) (yes 3D you 3D haters hehe).

[GrmpyolGamer]

I'm a PS4 owner and I am not interested in VR. This article is clearly false

[tweet75]

not me I'm a huge playstation fan but virtual reality is still pretty young. I'm going to take a wait and see approach see how it is received by the fans and the quality of games that come and make a decision in a year or 2.

[GrmpyolGamer]

Probably the smart move with something like this.

[conanlifts]

I doubt sony will take a loss on the vr units. With this in mind i think it will come in at a similiar price to its competitors. If so it will sell well at launch to die hard gamers, (1-2 million) then sell poorly over the next year or so.

[cbone1982]

honestly i could give a shit less, i just want full completed games not money grabbers

[DC777]

If it's free, sure.

[Picnic]

Sony's been taken over by marketing people.

'All PS4 owners are ready for VR'.

Oh how clever. In one pithy line, you suggest that not only is every PS4 capable of supporting VR but, also, that their owners are ready, willing and able to spend money on VR.

Well often I dream of playing games that aren't on Playstation 4. So don't get cocky again.

[amnalehu]

Sounds like the Psvr will inclyde the PS Camera.

[Artemidorus]

No i'm not and you don't speak on my behalf Sony.

[Taero]

Quite clearly all PS4 owners are ready for it because all you need is a PS4. People are either a)stretching for a definition of 'ready' that wasn't in the article or b)*shock* didn't read it.

[jeromeface]

Vr will flop harder this time than it did for lawnmower man. Some tech just isn't a good idea.

[1nemesis975]

Before one month i'am buy oculus gearVR for my s6 edge+,and i found it very good for my firstVR expirience,and resolution is 900p with 61 fps.On playstation VR if its true res.1080p with 90/120 fps and 120 hz refresh rate i buying day one.Alltough oculus and htc viva had better resolution with lower fps and refresh rate.I am enyoing traveling around our solar sistems with samsung VR and with PSVR even more with better resolution,fps and refresh rate so people buy if you have money and you regrett if no.

[dota2champion]

I'm not ready yet

[psnCAShville_615]

im getting just to try new way of playing, would be cool as hek to play fifa pro clubs with my brother in the same room using it as secondary screen.

[zarbor]

How can everyone be ready when 90% haven't even tried it? Not to mention those who will get sick from using it.

[BeenaBeast305]

@unspoken bruhh stop speaking. Dont ever speak again

[iliimaster]

this will give me a reason to turn on my ps4 and god of war and uncharted.... i got my ps4 3 years too early for the games i like...

[vastolorde666]

I'm ready you say,mate? Well uh you knaw what! I'm ready. Head first all in...let me have me fun...
Oh Sony.....mighty and strong.Spare me wallet,me gf, me social life but unleash hell unto those who wish me harm in getting psvr.

[Elda]

Not me.

[corroios]

PSVR will get a huge boom on black friday. I think that will be point where PSVR can sell tons with a price cut.

I say this even without knowing the price, but at that point i think Sony will reach the number they want to sell for the first year.

[Parasyte]

I'm not. I really couldn't care less about VR to be honest.

[NickAwesome]

I Hate vr, just another stupid gimmick

[cbone1982]

give a shit less, im more worried about getting full completed games

[cbone1982]

getting sick of bugs that corrupt your save data after 12 hours of playing