Thatguy-3103011d ago

If you haven't noticed the gems from any generation are single player experience. Multi-player is fun and all but it won't get rid of single player experiences. Developers have stories to tell and gaming is the perfect platform for it. Just ask Naughty Dog and any other story driven developer.

DarkOcelet3011d ago

The moment Single Player games dies is the moment i stop buying new games and enjoy the old ones.

There is hardly any Multiplayer game i am very fond of but many Single Player games stuck out with me till this very day.

TwoForce3011d ago (Edited 3011d ago )

Single player is alway my gem. So we unite we stand against this MP only BS. UNITED WE STAND OR DIVIDED WE FALL.

DarkOcelet3011d ago

@xHeavYx

Bloodborne was mainly Single Player for me.

mikeslemonade3011d ago

Meh they both have limits. Single player becomes to repetitive and multiplayer is too shallow. Gaming needs both.

Ezz20133011d ago (Edited 3011d ago )

As a Single-player gamer only
The day Single-player games die is the ay i stop gaming.
Call me selfish but the days were there was Singleplayer games only when there was no such thing as Multiplayer were the best days in my life.

I'm glad that developers such as Naughty Dog,From Software among others prove that Singleplayer still the king.

CrazedFiend3010d ago

I, personally, hate multiplayer. Especially FPS.

No matter how dumb, the AI in FPS games always feel more real to me than live competitors. I mean in a live match, you have everybody runnin' n gunnin' around the map like a bunch of scattering cockroaches. Who the hell does that in real life?

Single player AI somehow forces me to take my time and handle things in a more realistic manor.

I'm sure I'm in the minority on this one though.

Kingthrash3603010d ago (Edited 3010d ago )

Single player games are the meat and potatoes of any game. Without it a game feels like it's missing something. Always. Games like TF, EA'S BFront, and R6 feel like it's missing alot and not worth the full price they launched with. BF and R6 had stories and look what happend. Thinking how awsome BF would have been with a sp mode is mind boggling.
Now flip the table and tell me how many games need a MP to complete it. Yes there is cod and BF who's MP is what people want it can't compare to the vast majority of games that dosent need mp to complete it.
Sp was never dead, never will be.
If it does the I'll hang up my controllers next to my pogs and retire.

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Aloy-Boyfriend3011d ago (Edited 3011d ago )

TLOU, in particular, was a complete package: over 15 hrs of campaign and an amazing multiplayer where your team actually matters. I put so much hrs into this game. Imma be doing the same with U4.

Single player is still the meat of video games. I play games to enjoy myself and play at my pace. Competitive gaming won't get me more girls or take me anywhere in life. Sure I play MP games with friends and players online, but that just a few hrs after beating the main campaign. This is how it has always been, but devs lately have been so lazy with this new trend

I give titantall a pass because the game was actually addictive fun, but the others are just devoid of content and damn repetitive. Not worth the price by any means.

nommers3010d ago

Please don't call it a "campaign".

WellyUK3011d ago

That's wrong there are loads of so called MP "Gems" as well... WoW, CoD (Ever since CoD4 the series has been MP focused and CoD4 changed a generation of shooters...), CS:GO, Dota2, LoL, Battlefield series (Is pretty much a MP game), Gears of War 1, WarHawk, Dayz and Arma 2 are few of those gems.

You people make it out as if every MP game is crap or not good yet some of these games have been going for years and have incredible player bases still after 10+ years...

I love a great SP game but nothing beats a great MP game IMO.

jb2273011d ago

Totally agree...platforms & publishers want to push the mp only model not because it is "more innovative" as was quoted in the article, but because it gives them full power over the products we buy. It requires us to pay a monthly online subscription fee, it entices us to buy Microtransactions & the servers can be shut off to force gamers into buying the new installments. Online MP games essentially give all of our power over, so sure the publishers want to push that agenda, but like you & others are pointing out sp games are typically the most memorable & long lasting experiences. For me at least, they are my entire reason for gaming & I would definitely check out as well if we get pushed into an online mp only future. The large amount of agrees on all of these comments kinda goes to show that if we do get to a time when games require mp & online, that is the time that the industry collapses on itself after a mass exodus of their core crowd.

SUCKxITxEZ3011d ago

@Ezz2013- multiplayer goes back to pong so I have a hard time believing you played videogames before multiplayer was even a thing.

Bdub20003010d ago

I personally thought Destiny was pretty close to striking a good balance.

The game was fun as single player, but way more enhanced as multiplayer. The bad part of the balance was that further in to the game it became necessary to play multiplayer, and several missions or game types it was totally necessary, and the "raids" required coordination with 6 friends and several hours of free time to beat...

IceKoldKilla3010d ago

Not 100%. Halo, GoldenEye, Call of Duty, Socom are all gems people continue to remember (I obviously refer to past titles to prove my point). What about local multiplayer? People remember games that had incredible local multiplayer. Counter-Strike, DOOM, Quake, Unreal Tournament, etc. Just wanted to clarify all gems aren't just singleplayer games.

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Relientk773011d ago

Pretty much all the games I'm buying this year are single player games

NickAwesome3011d ago

Single player will NEVER DIE!

NeoGamer2323011d ago

Single player dies, then gaming dies for me.

PhucSeeker3010d ago (Edited 3010d ago )

Single player will never die <= fact.

Lennoxb633010d ago

I wish people would stop telling this lie.

IanTH3010d ago (Edited 3010d ago )

What lie? I, like NeoGamer, play predominantly single player games. 99% of my gaming library is single-player only games. The game I happen to play most consistently right now is Diablo 3 - a game that supports playing solo as well as it does co-op. That's about the only kind of game I could see myself keep playing if "true" single-player games came to an end. But I don't like MOBAs, I don't like competitive FPSs, things of that ilk. So if single-player games go the way of the Dodo, gaming would - in a very real way - be dead to me. Maybe I'd find a game I'd play now and again but I would end up spending my time on other things.

Probably more useful things...

Or maybe I'd finally finish my 1,000 game backlog!

ninsigma3011d ago

Yeah single player is going no where. There's no need to be worrying about the new online only games. They are great in their own right and have just as much a place in the industry as sp games. However, single player is the core of it all and both released and upcoming sp games vastly outnumber mp only games. The more diverse the industry is the better. We don't need to lean more to one side than another. As long as we are getting a mixture of sp and mp and all kinds of genres, everything will be fine. Besides, if MP does start to take over, indie devs will keep it all in check as I know many sp gamers will flock to them for sp games. This doesn't have to be a divisive issue. Mp and SP can co-exist.

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EA says largest Battlefield team yet is building ‘another tremendous live service’

Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson stated in a recent EA Earnings Call, that the next Battlefield "it is going to be another tremendous live service.”

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-Foxtrot1d 4h ago

Another? ANOTHER?

Is he honestly trying to make out like the last Battlefield was a huge success, not just as a game but as a live service game? I'm sure these guys live in their own echo chambers, they are so far removed from reality or they just like talking out of their arse trying to rewrite history.

Also why say such a tone deaf statement when you know the state of live service games at the minute and how many gamers feel about them. Bigging up the next BF game as live service does not give me any excitement or hype.

LordoftheCritics1d 1h ago

''is building ‘another tremendous LIE service’''

/Fixed

just_looken1h ago

This is nothing too new
https://www.eurogamer.net/e...

They had plans of a universe of live service games

Also these studios made 2042 there is no new massive team its the same team
https://www.eurogamer.net/t...

Well same team minus the seattle boys that were canned
https://gamerant.com/ea-bat...

This is all again same news different year but it seems very few remember what happened before covid.

RaidenBlack1d 3h ago

Just make another Battlefield 2 ... or BadCompany 3 ... EA

XiNatsuDragnel1d 2h ago

Bad company 3 instead of live service bs

Relientk771d 2h ago

And already lost interest

Pass

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Phil Spencer trends on Twitter amid calls for him to resign

Phil Spencer and Microsoft have come under fire following the closure of multiple Bethesda-owned studios including Tango Gameworks.

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gold_drake7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

wow haha.

i dont think he will resign. or will be kicked off.

if hes still here after everything in the past, this wont affect him unfortunately.

RhinoGamer885h ago

He and his cronies have a sweet deal. Even if they are fired, stock options and parachutes will mean they never need to work again. Cronyism at its worst.

neutralgamer19923h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think his days are numbered TBH. Spending 80 million of all acquisitions yet can’t even compete with others it’s insane

This also proves gamepass isn’t as profitable as Xbox fanboys make it out to be

RaidenBlack3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

That huge Acti-Blizz acquisition wasn't worth it ... They should've stopped at Zenimax and instead focused "rescuing" individual studios like Crystal Dynamics, Eidos Montreal, Crytek, Volition or Gearbox etc (much better than trying to devour the whole of one of the largest gaming publisher)
IMHO, with no $70 Billion deficit, these studio closures would not have happened ...

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Xbox Has No Idea What They're Doing, and I'm Not Sure They Ever Did

Nirav from GL writes: "If the makers of a GOTY competitor that outdid sales and Game Pass expectations and owned by the richest company in the world cannot stay open - what hope is there for everyone else?"

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Christopher9h ago

***If the makers of a GOTY competitor that outdid sales and Game Pass expectations and owned by the richest company in the world cannot stay open - what hope is there for everyone else?***

None if you stay in an arena of corporate driven metrics. And this is what happens when you allow publishers to buy up massive amounts of studios and IPs. There's only so much internal competition and the focus in the end will remain on those who look best on a spreadsheet.

Players can be so driven by what is best for them and only see what is put right in front of them. But that's not what is best for them. They are being lied to constantly, as seen by Microsoft's ridiculous praise for Hi-Fi Rush and Phil's lies about Redfall prior to release and how big of a supporter of both studios he has been. But, instead of thinking "wait, this corporation wants me to think this way, should I be listening to them and believing them?" players eat it up and go "OMG, did you hear what they said! They're just like us and they know what's best for the industry."

And because of this single-mindedness of the majority of gamers, we are where we are now. Massive layoffs. Massive studio closures. Games that we were told were representative of the core values of said corporations shelved and studios behind them shuttered. The truth is coming to bear because the truth all along was only what the numbers in an excel spreadsheet told the corporate suits.

If you truly want what is best for the industry, what is best for developers, then you need to support Indie games, support developers that maintain control over their IPs and direction, support boutique publishers who only exist to help Indies make it out the door and don't own the IP. Stop supporting major corporations with your money or you devotion. Stop playing their games, and I don't mean video games, but their marketing, their double speak, their guy without a tie who says things you want to hear PR, their future of video gaming concepts as if we were hurting for new ways to play games other than installing/downloading and playing them, and especially any slogan from them that gives the impression that they are for you, the consumer. They are not. You're merely a value on a spreadsheet.

Christopher8h ago

Sure, I'm the one drinking the koolaid. Keep believing in the corporations. They definitely have your best interests in mind. All hail the Big Green, For You Blue, and Nostalgia Red! All praise big corporations buying up other publishers. All praise the inevitable spreadsheet adjustments. For greed, not the players.

Crows9058m ago

I'd like to but I think you drank it all...

anast6h ago

"then you need to support Indie games"

Get punk rock with it.

rlow12h ago

I don’t always agree with you. But you are correct and well said. It amazes me on what used to be a pretty straightforward industry has turned into such a greedy mess. Layoffs galore across the industry and corporates pushing/firing whatever is going to move the bean counters. With no regard for the people making the games. I’m tired of hearing these rich companies saying it’s just business, or an adjustment needed to be made, but it’s not personal. Then on top of it they have to inject corporate inclusivity into every game. On top of releasing broken games and expect people to pay top dollar.

But again well said and we as the consumer need to not only speak up but vote with our wallets.

Tody_ZA6h ago

This should not be surprising to any of you. We have been saying for MONTHS that Game Pass is not sustainable and that these acquisitions will come at a massive cost to the industry. People refused to grasp the difference between buying and investing in a developer like Insomniac or Housemarque, and buying the entire publisher. People refused to accept that spending billions to acquire the biggest publishers in gaming means you have to RECOUP those costs, and you aren't going to do it without consolidation, focusing on core IP that sells, creating revenue streams via ownership and releasing on other platforms, and closing down studios that are superfluous to the budget requirements. You will not recoup those costs by investing in risky new IP or creative new games and studios.

No, people cheered Microsoft on like they were delivering GOTY titles to their door and pouring money into the industry to grow Indies and triple A projects.

You are getting what you deserve. You take the consequences of the practices you supported.

Layoffs happen. Some games don't succeed. Everyone has seen it happen. Happens even to the winners.

This, however, is goddamn shambolic and if you can't see it now then there's no helping you and you should keep enjoying the "value" of Game Pass while contributing nothing to this industry.

I've never seen the developer of one of the best games of the year get axed before.

Ninja Theory is next after Hellblade 2, I can see them going independent again. There's more to come from MS.

TiredGamer6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

This is exactly it. There is more of this coming. MS runs from one bad idea to the next, and GamePass is an unsustainable train wreck that we get to watch in real time.

GamePass is stalled for subscriber growth, and all that they can hope for is to either A) Reduce the quantity of games (i.e. shutter game studios), B) Reduce the quality of games (to make more mediocre but lower budget offerings), or C) Raise prices on existing customers. Or some combination of those.

MS does not have a passion for the industry. The XBox project, from the beginning, was sparked from the fear that someone else would eat their PC market lunch by making a games machine that replaced the PC. THAT was the entire motivation for getting into the games industry.

Profchaos4h ago

I saw it from the outset of day 1 on Xbox it's unsustainable no one was buying their games and a noticeable decline in quality and a push to live service elements to keep subscriptions active was obvious.

I saw it every time I'd go to a physical game shop for a Multi plat pre order no one was there for the Xbox version.

I'd go to CeX or other used game stores and be able to pick up the full range of Xbox studios first party games for 20 bucks and change while on the PlayStation side 20 bucks might get me two PS4 launch games and wouldn't even get me a single Nintendo first party game.

-Foxtrot4h ago

"Ninja Theory is next after Hellblade 2"

Anyone think it's weird it comes out in 2 weeks and there's hardly anything on it

MrBeatdown6h ago

But hey, at least we get Call of Duty free on game pass*

*eventually?

anast6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

They know what they are doing. If 'you' treat them like "good 'ol simple minded folk", then 'you' are relieving them from blame via ignorance. They knew that they were going all live service, streaming and mobile a long time ago, The Oracle tends to see the obvious. While companies patronize gamers like they are children, which most of them are, may be confused for stupidity, they are also not so stupid they don't understand the decisions that they are making toward the overall direction of their company.

*None of their games were even close to competing for GOTY. They paid for names to be mentioned.

Profchaos4h ago

Xbox survived it's first gen by pure luck halo became a hit and it was huge followed up by halo 2 which had one of the biggest marketing campaigns I can remember seeing in the early 00s we had guys in master chief outfits on the sidelines of state of origin as a promo it blew my mind.

Then the 360 fell under the excellent leadership of Peter Moore and outpaced the PS3 for the first three quarters of that generation the only time anyone has ever done that.

Since losing Peter Moore it's been a rapid decline and buying up the industry stank of a desperate move along with the idea of gamepass itself stank of desperation to me no one was buying the X1 they needed something to get people interested and here we are.

I would happily lose gamepass if Xbox could go back to the 360 era style of focused heavy hitters and solid games.

The championing of consolidation they did was disgusting and what's happened as a result is proof they never had gamers or the industry at heart they need their ROI and that's all they cared about big daddy ms has signed a number of blank checks getting them here and it's coming to collect on their debts

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