Street Fighter V Isn’t Just An Exclusive, It’s A System Seller

ThisGenGaming says "It’s now been over a year since Street Fighter V was confirmed to be a console exclusive for PS4, although not a full exclusive due to the PC release. It was later confirmed that there will never be an Xbox One version of the game released. Looking at past sales and how popular the series is, the PS4 has got an exclusive that is going to bring in console sales."

[DarkOcelet]

Its definitely a system seller. I think it might top one million copies sold in the first week.

[darthv72]

It should sell a few consoles. Hopefully spark some interest in JP but if not then the rest of the world will make up for their loss.

[bouzebbal]

I for sure cannot wait for this beast to land.
Shoryuuuuken!!!!!!
Between this and KOF14 2016 is the comeback of every extincted genre (JRPG, fighters, platforming...)

[Unspoken]

Yep, it'll sell itself right on to my system. PC. Playing it in beautiful 4K on a 65" screen leads to some intense moments. Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat has shown me that. Too bad PS4 can't do the same.

Now where is a real fighting game, Soul Caliber?

[bouzebbal]

@Unspoken:
You wanna sound like a fan at least show it by writing the game's name correct.

[alvgamin4lif]

@Unspoken
Wow dude, where did this come from? So off topic and random.

[FlipSwitch]

There aren't any fighting games that even come close on PS4's closest competing system.

[LAWSON72]

Smash says hi

[FlexLuger]

KI is not as iconic as SF, but its MS own game ( not a paid for 3rd party exclusive, that has been on every console since the dawn of gaming, in all its previous iterations)and its damn solid as a fighting game.

On a side note. looking forward to playing this on my PC. Hoping my Hori stick for My x360 gives me no problems.

LAWSON72 + 5m ago

"Smash says hi"

People seem to forget that smash is a dope game! give credit where its due. and I dont even own a WiiU. love it on my 3DS though.

[remixx116]

@flex

never really understand why you guys feel the need to tell what your getting it on......nobody cares.

if your buying it just buy it.

@law

Yeah smash is amazing.

[FlipSwitch]

@Lawson.

Smash isn't on PS4's closest competing system.

@Flex.

It's not like KI is Microsofts own IP. They bought it from Nintendo. Buying instead of developing new IP's is something they seem to do a lot

MS also got a third party developer to make KI on Xbone

KI has been available on different consoles in the past too so i'm not quite sure what your point is

[ShottyatLaw]

@ FlipSwitch

"Buying instead of developing new IP's is something they seem to do a lot."

Either you are much more clever of a troll than I previously gave you credit for, or the irony of your drivel is completely lost on you.

[FlexLuger]

@remixx116

"never really understand why you guys feel the need to tell what your getting it on......nobody cares."

If you didnt care you wouldnt even comment about it. I see comments like what I just posted all the time, yet never feel the need to point it out or respond...small minds need something to get riled up about I guess...

"It's not like KI is Microsofts own IP. They bought it from Nintendo."

They bought it so they own it. Then they developed an all new KI. What is so hard about that to understand? When you buy something thats how it works. Its MS IP. They own it. Am I lying? and its only ever been on two nintendo consoles plus the monochrome gameboy ...over 20 years ago...I was just playing SSF4:AE on my X360 earlier today....big difference.

"Buying instead of developing new IP's is something they seem to do a lot"

They dont have an inhouse fighting game team (neither does sony in case you forgot, what with all the SF5 marketing talk)So its a given that for the sake of quality a dev who knows what they are doing develops it. Worked out fine for MS and KI as a game. And whats more....they OWN KI. Sony does not own the street fighter IP.

But hey lets go back to your quote and pretend NMS, SF5, nier, COD and destiny DLC, plus all those timed indies are not a thing....I mean..facts are not popular on N4G anyway, right? I dont mean to rock the boat or piss on the parade in here... lol

[Why o why]

'KI is not as iconic as SF, but its MS own game'

Lmao.....when did that become important to xbox fans? Is that more important than having sf5 as a console exclusive. .. I don't get it. Will it not be a great title for the ps library because it's not in house.....

I cant agree with flip in that we cannot say where the 'close to' bar is because sfv hasn't been released yet to know

[FlexLuger]

"Lmao.....when did that become important to xbox fans? Is that more important than having sf5 as a console exclusive." I have been a street fighter player since 1992...Im speaking purely from that perspective. Fact of the matter is SF5 is not as big as KI, as flipwsitch said....What are YOU getting your panties in a twist over. I can buy this game on a choice of two platforms because I own both platforms this game is coming out on

"I don't get it."

Of course you dont. You already proved you cant comprehend what you read by reading my statement as some kind of attack on sony. Just makes you come across as insecure.

"Will it not be a great title for the ps library because it's not in house....."

Nobody said it wouldnt....you guys are too sensitive, sometimes....get over yourselves.

[nogoodusernamesleft]

imo killer instinct and smash bros are more interesting for me than sfv but the game looks really good still. you're just being a hater if you think other platforms has no fighting game as good as sfv lol

[jb227]

"Fact of the matter is SF5 is not as big as KI, as flipwsitch said"

Trying to find where he said that, but all I'm seeing is the opposite, that there aren't any fighting games that come close to SFV on the competing platforms...Surely you can't think that KI is somehow bigger than SF? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you there, but I'm not even a huge fighting game fan, played both in their original first forms when they came out & I'm pretty sure everyone would agree that SF is a bigger & more important lifelong fighting franchise than KI....Ki laid dormant for nearly two decades while SF has been propping up the fighting game competitive scene the entire time w/ installment after installment. Always assumed SF is the perennial fighter bar none.

[Realms]

You got to love the trolls Street Fighter is an iconic franchise that should sell pretty good. FYI to those posting they will buy it on PC nobody cares when some of you are well knowned Xbox fanboys it's clear why you would mention that.

[Azzanation]

KI season 3 releases this year and you get to play as one of the BattleToads! Im sorry but there closest competitor have a very good fighting game thats been out for 2 years. And if your old school how can you resist the BattleToads.

[Wallstreet37]

Lawson....

Honestly i have Smash on Wiiu and dont play it. I agree with Flip... Killer Instinct anD Mortal Kombat i think come close but are not on same level.

[Why o why]

@flex didn't see the point of that part of your first statement but I can see why you felt I was being defensive of whatever but again, it being a purchased 3rd party game has little relevance especially since KI was initially an arcade and nintendo game and the comment you responded to said nothing came close on the x1....I also said I didn't agree with him saying there's nothing close.

[jwillj2k4]

@FlishSwitch

I thought you worded it that way to make the peasants fight over second place lmfao...

[Neonridr]

dear god, so because Smash is on the Wii U and not the Xbox One you are going to ignore the game. Don't try to cover your tracks, admit you made an error in judgement there.

What about in Japan where the Xbox One is irrelevant? Who is the PS4 competing against there? Father time?

Give me a break.

[INMATEofARKHAM]

@ Flex, you should have no issues with a Hori 360 joystick on PC. (I have a Hori EX Real Arcade Pro and I use it without issues.)

[Bahamut]

@Lawson72

Smash is great man, but I'd hardly consider it a fighting game per se. It's more of a "smash on all the buttons and knock the other guys off the edge" game. But it's a whole lotta fun, no doubt.

[rainslacker]

@Flex

KI has nowhere near the mind share that SF has. It's a good enough game, but seriously, it's not going to be a game that many people run out to buy a console for.

SF, MK, Tekken, and maybe KOF to a lesser degree, are the cream of the crop when it comes to fighting games. KI is on the level of just another fighting game to get if you're into those kinds of games. The reason it's being so played up is due to it's exclusivity, whereas the other 4 I listed are played up because they actually are extremely popular. Heck, a couple Aksys fighting games are more popular than KI ever was.

To the player, most won't care who owns it. That's a thing for fan boy discussions. When they want to play it, they will go out and get it regardless of who owns the IP. Do you think that people care that MS owns the GeOW franchise now? Does MS owning all those Rare franchises really matter? Do the people playing UC really care that Sony owns it? No, they just want to play the game, and they're going to go and buy the system that allows them to do that.

It's great that companies provide exclusive content for their consoles, as that content tends to be compelling, but ultimately, it doesn't matter except for marketing purposes. I didn't buy a PS4 because Sony owns GT or UC franchises. I brought it because I can actually play those games on the PS4.

[BG11579]

Well not as well kown as all the others mentioned in the comments and also kind of a niche game game, but Guilty Gear Xrd holds itself quite well.
The problem is, the game is just to technical for casual gamers...

[ShadowKnight]

I think your right!

[Shadowsteal]

you're*

[3-4-5]

Street Fighter as a series has been a system seller since the Sega Genesis & SNES.

[SpeakTruthAlways]

Exactly, it's comical to downplay the significance of SF just because it's a ps4 console exlcusive and comparing SF to KI is a joke. SF is in it's own league. Instead of being salty, these fanboys should buy the game on pc or get themselves a ps4.

[3-4-5]

Yea I don't even own a PS4, I have a Wii U & XB1, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't really want to play Street Fighter 5.

I'm not huge into fighting games....like I don't master all the combos and play for hours at a time, but I do love play a fighting game here and there and Street Fighter or some form of it has always been my go to fighting game series.

Well that and Smash Brothers, but those are both different enough.

[Masterofwiiu3ds]

If you have a Wii or WiiU, you should check out Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

[rainslacker]

It even sold PC-Engines in Japan. There was a huge surge of sales for the system when they released the SFII:CE on it. It was considered the best version of the game at the time of it's release, and even today commands a high price due to it's faithfulness to the arcade version. Sadly, it never made it to the west with a localization...probably due to it being one of the larger capacity HuCards which were expensive, and the US struggling for TG-16 install base.

I'm not sure how it's status as a system seller would be if it were multi-plat. I'm sure it would push some sales overall, but it's getting that exclusive bump in hype, which is going to help get people interested in the PS4...so it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

[XanderZane]

I honestly don't know anyone who bought a SNES or Genesis just because a SF game was on it. The PS4 has already sold over 35 million units and most of these purchased were from gamers who didn't even know SF5 would be exclusive on PS4. I don't think SF has ever been a system seller for any game console. I'm sure the game will sell well, but I'm in no rush to get it after Capcom milked the hell out of the SFIV game. I'll just sit back and watcher at this point. I would rather see another Virtua Fighter game, which I always thought was a deeper more realistic fighting game.

[3-4-5]

ahh I forgot about Tatsunoko vs Capcom...I'll look into it.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I thought games like SF wasn't exclusive?

[DarkOcelet]

They are console exclusives, but i think we can agree that at least 70% of the sales will be on PS4.

[CYCLEGAMER]

I know right?? I guess it is ok to call games "console exclusive" now that Sony says it is ok....LMAO

[rainslacker]

PC and consoles have some overlap in market share, but for the most part, people play on one or the other.

I prefer to take the term in context, particularly on here, because I know that most people that discuss these things in here only play on console, or only have limited play on the PC.

PC gamers tend to keep to themselves on here, except for a few that want to play the "PC rulz" card(like decrypt), but a lot of the PC players only discuss the games themselves without worrying about the exclusive determinations.

[_-EDMIX-_]

? SFV isn't. It's relearning pc

[kraenk12]

I'd be surprised if it sold less...with 36+ million consoles as install base.

[Father__Merrin]

ye id also wager 1 million FW it will sell tons of ps4s

[lvl_headed_gmr]

So wait...now PC/comsole multiplats are Exclusives?

The unbelievable Hypocrisy in the Sony camp is just mind boggling.

[RAM0N]

Yes it is, one of the reasons i bought a ps4

[Der_Kommandant]

Don Ramon seal of approval!

[SteamPowered]

It isn't an exclusive at all. It's more of a timed release.

[Silly gameAr]

Timed how? It is a console exclusive and there's no timed exclusivity as far as consoles are concerned.

[DragonDDark]

Yeah.. Recore and fable legends and Sea of thieves are all console exclusives...

[Silly gameAr]

@AngelicIceDiamond

They're console exclusives for the X1 right? Why wouldn't the same apply?

[BlackTar187]

Always playing the victim card.

[Silly gameAr]

Wow. My comment had a well said and they took it away. What the heck is going on with the mods here?

[FlipSwitch]

It isn't an exclusive but how the hell is it a timed release? It comes out on both PS4 and PC on the same day.

[remixx116]

.....can you explain how, its only launching on ps4 and pc. NO version of it will ever come to xbox or NX according to capcom as sony helped develop the game....

they dindnt help publish and market like MS with Tomb Raider, they literally helped with development. Nothing timed about it.

no super, mega or ultra version.....nothing will come to other platforms.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Remix- I m mean..... I see no reason why won't appear elsewhere.

Zero.

This isn't the first time Capcom has done a timed game with a publisher for god sakes this game isn't even coming out on 1 platform its coming out on 2.

I just think the likeliness of it never releasing elsewhere is extremely small and very very unlikely.

Sony never purchased the IP Capcom firmly holds it.

Even if a contract exists to keep I've on the platform for a period in time I don't believe that overrules ownership of the intellectual property.

You would basically have to consider they paid them enough money to not bring it elsewhere but how much would you pay someone to Use something they legally own that isn't the cost of even purchasing it in the first place?

It's just one of these legal catch 22 that doesn't really make much sense that's like saying you're paying more money to temporarily use someones car than it actually cost to purchase the car..

Or someone allowed you to permanently use a car for less than the price it cost for the car.

I'm just not sure how much money you could give to a publisher to not use a intellectual property they legally own it really just doesn't make any sense.

It's likely timed and you'll see a super SFV on XONE.

[travestyj]

@Eddie

Cap come have already said it isn't going to Xbox One nor are any other versions of it. Sony is helping fund the game.

[blackblades]

"Cough" dumbazz "cough"

[johndoe11211]

Who the hell are the eight people that agreed with your horrendously inaccurate statement?

[XisThatKid]

This made me lol

[theRedDragon]

I gave my dad my PS4 this past holiday. But I can still play Street Fighter 5. How? Because I owned a gaming PC, that is how. So in that sense, it is not an exclusive.

[Phill-Spencer]

Cool for the ,,five people" who still use a pc as a gaming device

[Tankbusta40]

I for some reason aren't too excited about this... Wonder why

[DragonDDark]

I know why but I won't say..

[rainslacker]

Why not tell us instead of making us assume the reasons?

Otherwise, wonder why we should care about why you aren't too excited for it, and why you decided to chime in.

Take some initiative, and have a discussion, because your lack of interest does nothing to discourage others, and it does nothing to get others to encourage you to have interest by offering different perspectives.

[Ruggadagod]

Nobody in the real world is going to get Street Fighter V on a damn PC. People in the real world will be buying it for their PS4s including me. Sony knows that PC is a minority when it comes to fighting game sales. They wanted to make sure Xbox didn't grab it. They could care less about PC having it. It's like when Microsoft funds a game it's on the Xbox/PC. Microsoft just wanted Sony to not have it. It's competition. They both don't see PC gaming as a threat because they don't overlap.

[CYCLEGAMER]

Exactly!!! It is just sad that people are only accepting this way of thinking because Sony decided to accept the term "console exclusive" and actually put it on their game boxes.

Before then, it was deemed an "xbox fanboy" term/way of thinking.

Glad to see people are waking up!

[BlackTar187]

lol Pooooor ole xbox fans

[rainslacker]

I wouldn't say nobody. SF has a pretty solid PC community. Console sales will make up the majority though. That doesn't mean that there won't be quite a lot of people enjoying the game on PC. PC gamers can, and are, just as into gaming as their console brethren. We just don't see them around these parts much, as they have more friendly communities to hang out with. Around here can be pretty hostile towards PC players, although most of us are only to those that try and be pricks about which is better.

Otherwise, the console makers don't really worry about PC when it comes to these things. It's a different market, and aside from MS, they have no vested interest in it. They gain nothing from it being there, and they don't lose out on much due to the markets only having cursory overlap of the hardest of the hardcore.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Since when is SF a system seller?

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Since it became the most popular fighting game in gaming ever

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

What a ridiculous comeback. It has ALWAYS been the most popular fighting game but that has never made SF a system seller. Now suddenly because it's a PS4 exclusive it's suddenly a system seller? Lol ok.

[OpieWinston]

Personally I've always looked at MK as the most popular fighting franchise. But to each their own.

[Why o why]

Ok BLK, are you saying sfv wont be a system seller. You seem quite sure. I'd guess its job is to sell systems as well as itself and only time will tell but it being a console exclusive would kinda mean any street fighter fan only has two places to play, pc or ps. Its not ridiculous to assume ps4s could be sold off the back of it. I believe it will, especially in certain regions.

[magiciandude]

Super Smash Bros. is miles more popular than Street Fighter. According to VGCharts Street Fighter IV, with the 500+ releases, sold 4.15 on PS3. Brawl on Wii sold 12.94. Even SSB on Wii U outsold SFIV on PS3...

[RosweeSon]

Since Street Fighter 2 came out in 1992 on Super Nintendo. Ask Nintendo sure they sold a fair few consoles due to having the best version of Street Fighter over SNES/Genesis (Mega Drive) versions anyway. Probably why they bundled street fighter 2 in with the Super Nintendo and SF2Turbo.

[TheColbertinator]

@BLK

Since 1992

http://m.egmnow.com/article...

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

SF is no system seller and if it was it was back in 92 since that's your source lol.

[RosweeSon]

It was massive back then my cousin got me on to in as he was a bit older 5-10 years older but hey ho and yeah was the game at the time for the older people buying super Nintendos bit of Mario kart. People were importing the consoles for this game.

I've seen street fighter 2 bundles, SF2 turbo bundles and pretty certain there was a super street fighter 2 turbo bundle, don't think I've Ever seen a mortal kombat bundle. 1 was great, 2 was bigger and better 3 was awesome and then the did Ultimate which says it all after that they've been patchy at best. Sure one or two of the mortal kombats have been ok but a lot out of the 10 or so plus have been awful.

Street fighter is a different class altogether.

[TheColbertinator]

@BLK

Fine. I hope you have common sense

http://www.nintendolife.com...

http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/...

http://www.shacknews.com/ar...

/end

[generic-user-name]

"It has ALWAYS been the most popular fighting game but that has never made SF a system seller."

Do you see the contradiction here in your comment? Being the most popular game in any genre makes it a system seller, moreso if it's an exclusive.

THAT'S WHY IT'S POPULAR

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Since PlayStation 4 is the only console it will be available on. Street Fighter is kind of a big deal in the FGC. This isn't rocket science.

[Shakengandulf]

Were you born yesterday, geezusss some of these comments.....

[Deathdeliverer]

@BLK

I'm just going to assume you're drunk. It's the most popular, most purchased (even Harada admitted it because #2 is Tekken), and most tournament headlining fighting game in history. But it's not a system seller? So people will buy an Xbox for Halo, one of the most popular fps games, or a PS4 for Gran Turismo cause it's one of the most popular racers. SFV? Only version ever with the community combined in one pool for the first time ever? No sale. Your fingers should be banned from keyboards for that ridiculous line.

[warriors_13]

I bought a ps4 for this so I guess that makes at least one?
got my stick arriving tomorrow. can't wait for this.

[ShinMaster]

It's a system seller because the PS4 is the only console you can get the next game in the biggest fighting game franchise ever.
It's a PS4 seller.

[RAM0N]

So by your logic the sfv bundle will flop

[rainslacker]

When has the most popular games of any franchise ever been a system seller then?

GT...nope, not a system seller.
GeOW...nope, not a system seller.
Halo...nope, not a system seller.
GOW...nope, not a system seller.
GTA...nope, you know the rest.
COD...nope...need I repeat myself?

You see the logical fallacy of your comments?

I could go on. Really popular games are system sellers. Sometimes they go out of favor, and lose that status(like I'd say maybe GeOW and GOW), but SF has been a system seller for a long time. If it's exclusive, we see a surge in console sales for the system it's on. If it's not, we see a surge for all systems it's on.

I think last gen, it lost some of that appeal on all but the initial release of SF4, but that was probably more due to over saturation.

This particular game may not be a system seller this time around. All depends on how it's marketed. But out of the gate, it has the popularity to push consoles, and so far, it seems people that are into the franchise are pleased overall with what's been shown.

[BG11579]

SF2 made the VS fighting genre popular by itself. Almost like it created it.
Daigo in SF3 made people get interested in the competitive VS fighting.
SF4 revived the VS fighting from oblivion all by itself.

Saying that SF5 is a system seller? It's more than that, it the sequel of sequels that embodied VS fighting.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

TBH thats exactly what I thought. Sure it probably is the most popular fighting game (I dont know, I dont follow Fighting games at all) but I always beleived that to be quite a niche market.
Perhaps Im wrong.

[MCTJim]

Good game yes, system seller, no not really.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

So if someone wants to play it, which I think a few people are planning to do, WHAT SYSTEM ARE THEY GOING TO PLAY IT ON? lol I don't understand why people are so adamant toward refuting what should be obvious. "System seller" doesn't have to mean it's going to move 10,000,000 PS4s, but it is a fact that it will sell PS4s. It is the next iteration in a long standing franchise which happens to be at the top of the genre. PS4 is the only gaming console you can buy it for. Of course it is going to sell some PS4s.

[SourtreeDing]

i can say the Same about Halo....

Halo 5

Good game, yes.... System seller, not anymore...

SFV will sale as much PS4 as Halo5 sold Xbox1

im the New Pachter hire me

[Inzo]

Really because our local games store here is sold out on their bundle pre-orders. I understand the reasoning would be based on how Tomb Raider did, that wasnt a very good system seller either but SF5 is in a different league and it has the added incentive of cross-play.

[optimus]

I would laugh if at e3 microsoft announces street fighter 6 for a winter release...i'm up for dirty tactics the way it used to be during the 16-bit era.

[jb227]

Yeah that's not happening. They initially said they were on track for SFV to release in 2018, so my guess is that they are still on track but this might buy Capcom an extra years so my guess is SF6 hits 2018 or 2019 as a multiplat, and it'll be a better game for having SFV already developed on the hardware to keep it in practice. It's a win win all around really, MS owners get a better game the same time they always would've gotten it & PS owners get to play a special entry for a couple years.

[RosweeSon]

Be pretty hard as Capcom haven't finished with 5 yet they've only just announced that currently the expansion is due to release around June time that's if it's all finished on time and that's if they are then finished with the game as a whole. Either way leaves 6 months for a bodged sequel? Help yourself, your welcome to it (5) but can't see it myself think Capcom will support it for a good 6-12 months from when it launches in Feb. 6 won't be around for a while and if it's out anytime soon it's not likely to be as good as 5 which has clearly been in development for a year or 2.

[DLConspiracy]

Ive never been a huge fighter game fan so I wont be picking this up for PS4 or the "definitive edition" on PC. Prepare yourselves for oodles of sales articles and opinion pieces comparing sales of SFV to ROTTR. Let's hope it sells well so we can let developers know that long standing franchises should pick a side and let the community fight over their financial decisions.

Meanwhile, we can tear apart the Tomb Raider franchise for allowing the game to be on all systems after a certain amount of time has passed. The community amuses me. Before anyone goes on and on about how Sony helped to develop the game. Just remember Titanfall didn't get ANY slack from the community for getting the help they needed to make their game. That game was a brand new IP from a brand new developer.

edit. Hypocrisy will inevitably rear it's head down the line.

[Why o why]

Dude, tr was in development for the ps. It was pretty much announced as multi then went timed. Yes there will be comparisons as tr sold less than expected to the point it didn't even chart in some key regions. Because of this the decision to accept ms's offer will be highlighted. If sfv sells badly I'd expect the same response from sf fans who don't own a ps too.

I can't remember the same level of flack being leveled at titanfall as tr. If I'm wrong then I apologise but that wasn't announced as multi then flipped to exclusive.

Seems some people when are fine when they're the beneficiaries but get all bitter when they aren't

[DLConspiracy]

I wasn't trying to be mean and your response is perfectly justified. However, Titanfall did fall to the typical ill will in the media. Specifically because people thought MS just stole the game from the PS fanbase. Which they didnt. They kept the game alive while Sony was not reaching back to the developers who also wanted it on PS. Respawn needed the money to finish the game. So essentially they did the same thing Sony did for capcom. Only since it's Sony doing it the online comments are different now. There's more on the response below.

Also I'm not bitter because I could easily purchase the game on my PS4 or PC. I just think some of this community is very hypocritical and selective with how they sling their mud.

[jb227]

Timed exclusives & console exclusives are two entirely different things....would you compare RotTR to Dead Rising 3? Seems like SFV is Sonys version of DR3, and I don't recall anyone giving MS flak for funding a franchise installment from a third party for a console exclusive release. Same for Titanfall, not sure if you were around here then but nobody really cared all that much because the move was fair play.

Console exclusives are one thing but timed exclusives are bad for every party involved. Console exclusives exist in their form solely because of a second party investment, timed exclusives exist as they always would have, except precious dollars are spent on bragging rights that no one can actually play on their gaming system instead of actual games that wouldn't have existed in that form otherwise.

Hypocrisy can't rear it's head in fundamentally different scenarios.

[DLConspiracy]

So not having it is better than having the game if you happen to only game on one platform?

As far as Titanfall goes. There was just as much ill will thrown around for that game. People to this day still think the game didnt sell well and it sold 10 million copies months ago on both platforms. It, like SFV was in dire need for money. Respawn (part members of Infinity Ward) was a brand new developer hot off the heels of a very big lawsuit with Activision in dire need for funds to even complete the game.

Some of the same people (and I'm not referring to you or anyone in particular btw) who were damning Titanfall for its supposed console exclusivity are the same people who blessed Sony for the same actions. That was my point.

Also about DR3. I think that's crap too. They should not allow a continuing franchise like that. However the first in the series was not on PS3 and part 2 was. Still not cool but that would be the only allowance if someone wanted to debate it.

[jb227]

@dlc

Well your second post clarified it quite a bit. I agree that multiplat games should stay that way on every side of the fence. I think the consoles we invest in should in turn invest in their own ip's...I'd personally rather have a larger catalog of exclusives geared towards my consoles strengths & audience than have bragging rights on certain installments on franchises all around.

I could swear I didn't see that much vitriol thrown around for Titanfall & definitely not as much as RotTR but that may be because I'm more interested in RotTR & checked on those articles more. Either way there is no "right" side of the fence when it comes to platforms because they are on a strikingly even playing field when it comes to timed & third party exclusives this gen, and that's a bummer actually because I feel like that's going to be one of the reasons we see fewer amazing first party exclusives this gen than we saw last gen. Hope I'm wrong there and that this is just what we have to deal with for the first few years, but if this stuff is still going on when XB2 & PS5 is being revealed, I'm gonna be very underwhelmed.

[DLConspiracy]

@jb

It's an unfortunate side effect for companies who are leading the pack. Sony has been adopting it and now MS is continuing the same old stuff. I agree with you man. I just don't like the people that are all back and forth with things. These companies may need money to help them, but if they are interested in their fans they shouldn't do this to them. I guess it's just cheaper to throw money at a well established franchise than to come up with something new? It's business but it puts all the gamers in the middle.

[jb227]

@dlc

"I guess it's just cheaper to throw money at a well established franchise than to come up with something new?"

It may be cheaper in the long run if you plan on a scattershot approach, but I think these platforms should realize that it's much less expensive to create their own franchise w/o having to pay for brand recognition, then they could potentially have the next TR or the next SF on their hands....hell they could create franchises that set their bar in their genres & go on to sell tens of millions of copies if they are willing to run the risk. If the platforms were playing by these same rules in the previous gens, we'd have no Halos or Uncharteds, we'd just have more of what we already did, the platforms would lose money by not owning the ips & the multiple console ideal of gaming as a whole would be in jeopardy.

Honestly I'm hoping that all of this is down to early cycle quick fixes...it is definitely easier to throw money at established franchises already in development than it is to create your own from the ground up, but the rewards are much more plentiful in the latter. Honestly what bummed me out the most about the RotTR deal wasn't that I'd have to wait a year to play the game, it was that MS didn't spend that money on their own exclusive first party competitor so that we'd have 3 amazing action adventure titles in that realm instead of only 2. I can honestly say that if MS announced their own exclusive in that genre tomorrow, I'd sell plasma or find a way to pick up a box that day....platforms need to add to the gaming landscape w/ their own ideas, not take Way from it by latching onto others. That goes all the way around...may be a gamble, but if you trust in your fanbase you'd be willing to take it in most instances.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Well go ahead and teat apart SFV. Just remember, Capcom and Sony were very clear with its exclusivity unlike Squenix and Microsoft

[DLConspiracy]

The point is people are being hypocritical. They move their goal posts when it's a system they prefer. You are either for long standing franchises being console exclusive or you are not. You can't bounce back and forth depending on which console you prefer. You can't damn MS for Titanfall and bless SFV for doing the same thing. You also can't sit there and be mad at ROTTR when its not permanently exclusive. If you weren't damning TF you don't need to worry. If you are damning ROTTR then you should.

I'm against long standing franchises being exclusive to one platform over the other. Regardless of which console or platform I prefer more. I personally wanted TF and SFV to be on all systems. Sony didnt.

[rainslacker]

I don't care to take a side on the debate of if it's proper, but if a publisher is going to pick a side, it should be the side that primarily was invested in the game originally. I'd prefer they didn't pick sides based on speculation...which is what happened with ROTTR, and ultimately TF.

Not sure how this relates to SF, since I don't know it's fan base preferences, but ROTTR was just screwed up, and was done more in the interest of SE making money than providing for the fans.

SFV, as far as we know, wouldn't have been made, or I assume wouldn't have been made as soon/quickly, had Sony not invested in it.

TF was so close to release, there was no way EA would have abandoned it, and the excuses that MS "saved" it are completely idiotic. It was poised to be one of the biggest launch titles, and the most likely scenario is that EA wouldn't fund any more for the developer(maybe over-budget), and MS came in and offered more money, which was appealing to the dev. The game could have been released as was shown without the stupid bot AI that didn't need cloud to work. For TF though, I think the message was sent clearly to the developer that it's a bad practice, because their franchise could have been much more popular had they not speculated that X1 would do better, and now they have to market extra hard to get the bigger install base to care about their game come TF2.

For my part, I"m not into this money-hatting to get exclusives, and if any indication were shown Sony did this with SFV I would be against it. However, I look at this more like what Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2, where the game wouldn't have been made otherwise, because all the quotes about it have implied this, with nothing to dispute them other than some forum goers assumptions.

So far, MS two buyouts which are frowned upon, they took games away from players for their own purposes. For Sony and Nintendo, they have one game each where they funded the game to make it happen. Maybe there are more instances I can't remember, or am unaware of for this gen, but these three games are the most prevalent.

[DLConspiracy]

Hey I'm open to the fact of seeing an article that Sony actually went hands on with the coding to make the game SFV. Unfortunately I have not seen a single article talking about them doing that. So unless there is one I think it's safe to assume they did in fact throw money at it.

As far as ROTTR not being about fan service? Wha? The game is oodles better than the original reboot. Not sure if you played the game but I did and I felt it was more like Tomb Raider with all the hidden things you could find. Isn't that fan service? So apparently ROTTR needs to go back to its roots system with PS since that's where it belongs. I guess that means Dragons Age, Dead Space, Mass Effect and Dead Rising are only allowed on Xbox then huh? By your terms that's totally fair?

TF didn't get all the money they needed clearly. As I mentioned they were hot off the heals of a rather expensive lawsuit. EA dumped a lot and it probably DID go over budget. Sony was contacted numerous times to be a partner in this but did not respond. Some theorize that perhaps Sony had such a tight lid on the PS4 that they didnt want to risk leaks. In the end Sony didnt respond back. If you don't believe me then I suggest you read the Final Hours Of Titanfall. It's a good read. It's an actual diary of the making of the game and all the politics that went on behind the scenes with Sony and MS. So a lot of what you said is assumed and not what they have already said in that diary. I'm not pulling this from thin air.

As far as DR3. That game in particular is a classic example of what you mentioned. They thought it was going to be Xbox again maybe this gen. I can't say for sure so I can't confirm that but if any game deserves to get the heat it's that one. Not ROTTR and certainly NOT TF.

I think the point I have been trying to convey (and obviously not a popular thought) is that these companies are going to be doing the same things they always do. Depending on who you want to root for the goal posts will move accordingly. Just know that regardless of which company they both have or will do it and both are really no different.

[rainslacker]

Not sure if you're responding to me, or everyone else, but...

Sony helped fund it. That's about all there is to it. They may or may not have helped develop it, but funding is about the same as making it happen.

Who said anything about fan service? I wasn't discussing the quality of the game, I was just saying that MS paid some money to keep this off other systems, not to get it made, because this game was already announced, and being made when the deal was announced. The rest has nothing to do with anything I said.

TF would have been shipped either way. MS didn't make it happen. They paid to keep it off other systems because it was one of the most anticipated launch titles for the generation. Notice a pattern yet? MS is paying for multi-plat games to not go to other systems.

If the game couldn't be completed with what was provided, then maybe the devs shouldn't have been advertising it as a launch multi-plat title with that knowledge in hand. In the end, the game would have shipped. EA would have made sure of it. A game less than 6 months from launch has maybe 3 months left for optimization, and maybe 30-50 million invested in it. EA wasn't just going to let that go to waste. The dev overspent, all MS saved was the dev from releasing a unfinished game.

I don't really care what Sony was doing with the PS4. The dev screwed up, and with publisher support, and all the hype they were building for the game, the devs, and in part EA were being irresponsible. All MS cared about was having a hot launch title. A lot of things get said to save one's reputation, but I've seen enough productions to be able to reason out the likely scenarios, and I know that TF was not in danger of being canned.

Yes, companies will always do what they did in the past, because it has some worth to them. It's a crappy practice. However, if a game gets made that wouldn't have been made otherwise, then I have no problem with it for the most part. But this crap of buying out exclusivity of a game that would have been made, or is already being made just to bolster a consoles line up is a bad practice.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that you're comparing two different scenarios...or saying that the media will and be unfair about it. You liken ROTTR and SFV as the same thing happening on the production side, and nothing to date suggests that.

[DLConspiracy]

@rain

About TF. Read the Diary then get back to me. If you haven't read it then you are just assuming this was the case. YES, MS has bought out games to put on their system. They have also purchased entire developers to make games for them. No different than Sony or any other company doing it with many other titles. If you read the diary I spoke about you will have a much better picture of what really went on and all the articles about the matter. They had planned to make a PS4 title but Sony didn't do it. They tried reaching them numerous times about the matter, but they only confirmed a possible PS VITA version. That's it.

http://www.finalhoursoftita...

Again, I'm not saying that it's OK. I am saying that those who damn one and bless another for the same practice are hypocrites. Not sure how else I can tell you this.

"and I know that TF was not in danger of being canned."

Oh? Where do you "know" that this is true? I have provided you with where I gained my knowledge. Yet, you have not provided me with anything. If I wasn't sure. I would say so. I am not assuming. I read about it because I took a very large interest in the game. I was also one of the people rooting for it to be multiplatform because I wanted the game to do well. It did anyway..

Still I hightly doubt. Sony was sitting there helping to make the SFV like SO many claim. They through money at it just like evil MS does. Whoever did it more or less is regardless. They both do it and the people who act differently have an agenda. I made a very simple point about THOSE people and still I can't make myself anymore clear. It's not different. MONEY is being PAID to make games happen on EITHER system. ROTTR gets more Hate than SFV. The reason? Because "they helped them make the game". That's all I ever hear. Well so did MS with ROTTR and yet it's still multiplat. The developer shouldn't take money from sony to make a game happen on ONE console especially since it's been on MANY before it.

[rainslacker]

Tell you what. Since I don't care to spend the money to find out the info, why don't you quote the relevant info from the final hours app doc and prove me wrong.

I just find it hard to believe that EA would have cancelled the game. I wouldn't doubt that what was finally released was completed better due to the buyout from MS, but EA spent too much money, and too much time on promotion to just let the game die in the final hours. They'd ship a broken game before they cancelled the game. They've done it before, and there's no reason they wouldn't do it again.

EA decided to take MS money because they thought MS would reign supreme on launch. They didn't, and it cost EA money.

From Blake Jorgansen CFO of EA

“That’s a process that’s been done through the industry for many years. There are lots of single-platform titles. Obviously, you work with the first-parties to make sure the economics make sense for all sides, and we made that decision on Titanfall. We’re trying to make sure that we’ve developed a great relationship with them. We helped them on marketing, we helped them on development where they need it. And we try to maintain a strong partnership with them over time.”

In other words, EA wanted the money.

I discourage the practice of buying out multi-plat titles as a matter of routine. MS does this. I'm sure Sony has done it. But the games we're talking about here are not cases of Sony buying them out, at least not with any evidence to back it up.

Why do I know it's true? Because, as I've stated many times, big publishers don't put a game they're about to cancel up on a pedestal after spending tens of millions of dollars, only to cancel them at them less than 6 months before release. If by chance they decided to go ahead and market it the way they did before MS announced exclusivity, then they are irresponsible. It all came down to money, and EA wanting to mitigate it's risk.

I don't need to spend money to know this, but if by chance you have some quote or article which confirms what you say, please link it. I'll be happy to read it, but since it's not been spread around the net that MS saved this game from dev hell, I find it hard to believe such text exists within any work.

I don't think Sony is making any part of SFV. Never claimed them to. But they are financing it, otherwise, there would be no deal, and if you go by quoted material from the dev and Sony, the game wouldn't have been made otherwise.

Again, you're comparing two different scenarios to try and prove your point, and not providing enough information other than some vague references without any substantiated quotes. If you've read this diary, then you surely can provide the relevant information without your spin on it. Simple quote will be enough.

[DLConspiracy]

@rain

I never said they were going to cancel the game. I just said they needed help with completing the game. It also takes money to put it on multiple platforms too. Like paying developers to work on a port for each platform. Thats not cheap. Then releasing it on said platforms. This is a brand new Developer for Petes sake. EA doesn't just pay for everything. They publish. Sure they throw money at them but they don't just pu,p endless amounts of money into a brand new project from a brand new developer.

They also talk about in the article about this MS partnership well ahead of when it was announced to the public. The game was originally only supposed to be a PC title. Then Xbox took interest. I can look when I get up tomorrow but it's in that diary that unfortunately is under a pay wall. It wasn't one sentence to find in some article anyway. Nothing that simple. It was detailed over the course of the entire thing. So thats a lot to pull for some simple comment on N4g. You can choose to believe me or not. I don't really care anymore. I'm not going to write a paper on this subject. Just know I have taken plenty of time on this matter already because I wanted to know well before I talked to you. I also pointed to where I read it. Yet here we are with you essentially calling me a liar, when I absolutely hate fanboys with every thread of my being.

At this point it's do a research paper for some random guy on n4g to prove what I already know or be called a liar for already spending WAY too much time on this subject. It seems you've made your mind up anyway.

Think what you like but don't assume things.

[PoopsMcGee]

Well, duh.

One of the most iconic brands in all of gaming.

[Ruggadagod]

And no duh games like Smash bros and Mortal kombat sell more than Street fighter release by release, because those have more wide appeal for various reasons. Street fighter has a dedicated fanbase that WILL follow the series, but they don't sell like 5 million each release.The games are played for years and tends to sell at a decent pace since new people pick it up. I'm pretty sure someone out there is probably going to buy their PS4 for SFV or maybe SFV was the game that finally got them to get a PS4 along with other stuff. Everyone is different.

[generic-user-name]

"I'm pretty sure someone out there is probably going to buy their PS4 for SFV"

Move over Michael Pachter

[NeoGamer232]

Street Fighter is definitely one of the best fighting games ever.

But, it is a core gamer's game first and foremost.

I don't know any core gamers who have not bought a next gen system yet. It may push some consoles, but I doubt it will change sales ratios/volumes in any significant way.

Reducing the price of systems at this point in the gen will push sales more.

[RosweeSon]

BLK did you ever see anyone buy the Genesis/Mega drive for street fighter no because that Sega version was awful compared to that Super Nintendo Version so yeah it clearly sold consoles, Super Nintendos some of which can still be aquired on eBay, 2 different bundles one with street fighter 2 and one with street fighter 2 turbo, pretty certain they sold a couple. Plus the Super Nintendo controller was perfect at the time. Unless you owned an arcade.

[stonecold3]

my ps4 is ready for street fighter 5

[thisgamer503]

My ps4 and pc are both ready for street fighter 5. my pc shall receive.

[gamer7804]

I have an Xbox 360 arcade stick so I'll get this on PC later on since the stick will work on pc

[OC_MurphysLaw]

In the fight game circle it may....but it's not the driver it used to be and being PC as well its gonna struggle to move that needle. Uncharted 4 is the system seller for PS4 this year by a landslide. Horizon could be as well since both are exclusive to the PS4.

[BossBattle]

Nobody is going to buy a PS4 for Street Fighter. Stop lying to yourselves.

[GrmpyolGamer]

Its gonna be pretty hard to top KI. If u r a fighting game fan and u haven't played the new KI then u r doing it wrong.

SF was amazing 20 years ago and I will probably pick it up at some point but I have been spoilt by KI and its gonna take something truly amazeballs to live up to my lofty standards

[Ruggadagod]

Killer instinct is garbage bruh. It was garbage on the SNES and it's still garbage now.

[BlackTar187]

KI is no SF but it's not garbage KI on N64 was amazing.

KI on Xbox one is pretty darn good. No reason to act like the xbox only fans in here pretending one game isn't any good to prop up the other.

[Trez1234]

If u like fighting games like u claim and have " lofty standard ", have u played guilty gears on the ps4?

That's a top fighting game.

[rainslacker]

Top it in what?

Sales? Pretty sure that's a given.

Content? Pretty sure that's gonna happen. If you want to include extra seasons(another name for DLC) into the mix, then this is Capcom we're talking about. DLC is pretty much going to destroy KI....although that's not really a good thing.

Quality? From what I've seen, SFV is already going to be better.

Game Play? This is SF we're talking about. It's game play has always been top notch. KI is good, but not one of the best fighting games by any means. It's fairly standard fair for a mid-tier fighting game TBH. SF always had, and likely always will, have more depth than KI does/will.

Popularity? Can't really compare the two. KI is a niche fighting game with a solid fan base who attributes their liking of the series to the game being super popular. SF has universal appeal, and is an iconic fighting game known by people who aren't even into gaming.

So now that I've made my arguments, what else does SF have to top KI at?

[Akuma2K]

Killer Instinct doesn't even come close to the staying power that Streetfighter has, the Streetfighter brand alone is known worldwide 100x over.

What are these so called lofty standards that Killer Instinct has that Streetfighter can't top or hasn't done already ?

[Stogz]

Bahahahaha! Oh wait, youre serious?? Spoken like the saltiest of fanboys...

[SolidDuck]

I can't do fighters anymore. Besides graphics. Its the one genre that hasn't changed in about 20 years.

[BlackTar187]

That is not true at all unless all your saying is you stil fight people one on one in fighters and there's no bots inserted to liven it up.

[masterfox]

PS4 with a Ryu image in the box, instant sell!.

[SpeakTruthAlways]

SF is a system seller, no amount of downplaying from the green camp can change that, no matter how hard the try.

[Azzanation]

So if QB isnt a Xbox Exclusive due to its PC release then how is SF5 counted as one?

[Dark_Crow]

I don't think it's counted as an actual exclusive. However, when this happens with Xbox people use it as a reason to suggest the game is unimportant on that console. When it happpens on the PlayStation it's all hush hush.

I hope it happens less often so all players can enjoy these games. I'm glad companies still release it on pc even after these shady deals.

[Dewitt]

It is not releasing on PC, just because the Brazil board says so, which they have been wrong on at least 7 games at this point, it doesn't mean a thing.

[Factchecker]

I am a "Nintendo fanboy" that just happens to own a PS4 and I must admit that having SF5 on PS4 as the only option for console influenced my decision in purchasing a PS4. There's no denying the fact that Street Fighter is the most popular fighting game franchise of all time and that it will positively push PS4 sales in the console's already historic rise to market-share dominance. One would have to be delusional or working for Microsoft to deny these facts.

[Why o why]

yep

[Azzanation]

Wasn't Halo one of the biggest FPS games of all time and that didn't move consoles and Halo destroys Street Fighter in the sales department basing off history. To claim that SF5 will move consoles based off its name is wishful thinking. The game has to be good and be appealing. There is already strong competition on the market with Smash, MK, KI, DoA etc. SF5 has to be as good as those games and better to attract new buyers.

No doubt SF5 will sell well on both PS4 and PC to the owners who already have a PS4 and PC. Would it bring in more customers? Hard to tell. In a market full of fighting games, its harder to sell, just like Halo in the FPS world.

[BlackTar187]

How many copies does Halo sell?

I think SF4 sold over 10 million.

[Chevalier]

3rd party games have moved PS4 systems consistently. Destiny moved 550,000 units, Star Wars, Batman, Black Ops 3 etc have all moved units as well. Just because Xbox One doesn't move units with 3rd party games doesn't mean PS4's don't move units. Halo has ZERO to do with PS4 sales so maybe use some logic before suggesting Halo even matters in this regard because it doesn't.

[Chevalier]

http://n4g.com/news/1856845...

3rd party games don't sell consoles right? Yeah no the most certainly do. Here's more proof.

[audiocafe]

Can't wait to pick this up in February. Time to usher in a new era of Street Fighter. I know I wasn't the biggest fan of some of the mechanics in SFIV, and after playing the SF5 beta several times I'm happy with how this one is going.

[corroios]

Lol. So much fear... SF will be one of the biggest games of the year and will sell millions on the PS4.

[Tedakin]

If a game is on Xbox and PC, not exclusive. If a game is on PS and PC... exclusive. Got it.

[MasterCornholio]

That would be a console exclusive.

:)

[Tedakin]

Plenty of Xbox console exclusives people say are not exclusive cause they're also on PC.

:)

[MasterCornholio]

@Above

Of course it isn't an exclusive since its available on multiple platforms.

However if it's a console exclusive its only available on one console and PC.

Then you have PlayStation \ Xbox exclusives which are only available on PlayStation or Xboxs. Like The Last of Us and Halo 3 for example.

[Sora78]

Great year for the PS4 =D
Even without Street fighter V.

February for me :
Gravity rush
Street fighter V

April :
Ratchet & Clank
Dark Souls 3
Uncharted 4

<3

[Izalith]

Indeed!

Gonna get those aswell myself, plus Digimon Cyber Sleuth!

[HawaiianDreads]

Man I'm about to go broke this February :(

[Mad3inbrazil]

Once u own both consoles u realize how ridiculous these arguments are and who ever put street fighter and KI in the same sentence kill yourself I downloaded the free KI pack in xbl and wow what a button smashing fest you basically just hit Y and B the whole time and win the match

[Dewitt]

Spoken like someone that has never played the game, KI is one of the hardest fighting games to master and the combo, double, ender setup creates a huge skill gap.

[StarElite]

Lol........lies.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I find the characters in street fighter really cool, but it is way too slow for my taste, and I don't care for the combo system.

[audiocafe]

I know what you mean. After playing Guilty Gear a ton, going back to Street Fighter felt very slow. I like Street Fighter just as much as Guilty Gear though and Street Fighter 5 feels much faster than SF4 especially.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Yea after playing KI Season 2 I just don't feel like going back to the SF formula. It's not fresh enough.

[Tsunade]

How difficult can it be to understand the term "console exclusive"?

Tomb Raider: X1, PS4 and PC = multiplatform.

Street Fighter V: PS4 And PC = console exclusive.

Street Fighter 5 is going to be available Only in 1 console, the PS4. Is not going to be ever on x1.

Consoles and PC are 2 different categories. Do I need to make a power point presentation or a tutorial video so some salty people can understand?

[MasterCornholio]

Pretty much its something thats really easy to understand.

[Night99]

I don't really see de need for a new Street Fighter. The last one was a novel with its new Artstyle and new mechanics and there was quite some time passed since the last Street Fighter game releas, but this time it has the same Artstyle, looks almost the same as the last one, no big new mechanics or anything and it almost feels like yesterday since the last game. I sure will not buy this game I don't see the need for it, just for a few new characters? No thanks the last Super Street Fighter already had so many I not even played with all of them.

[audiocafe]

I can understand where you're coming from, especially with the art style but I mean it's been roughly seven years since a proper, numbered Street Fighter. Also gotta disagree on SF5 not having any big new mechanics. From what I've played of the betas each character has a unique 'V Trigger' that can completely change their playstyles and give their attacks new properties. Then there's also the V Skills which seem to be unique to each character. The V Skills add a bit more nuance to each character and the V Triggers can change things up entirely. Then the V Reversals which are basically alpha counters (from SF Alpha) or dead angle attacks (Guilty Gear). All of this, for me, adds a freshness to the mechanics and also gives some different thoughts in how to approach meter management. All of this is in addition to still having EX attacks. It's also noticeably faster paced on screen and in feel (though hasn't got a thing on Guilty Gear or BlazBlue speeds) and it also seems less strict in execution than SF4

...though honestly I don't know if non fighting games fans notice these differences in mechanics from the previous games but they seem like a big deal to me compared to SF4 with it's universal Focus Attacks, FADCing and crouching light attack combo starters. I strongly disliked FAs and FADCs

EDIT: This post got longer than I thought. TLDR: I like fighting games and consider the SF5 mechanics a big and welcome change to SF

[Night99]

Yes this might be the reason, I am indeed not a big fighting games fan, I just play them casually.

[LastcenuryRob]

SFV will make fans happy, but it isn't a "system seller". A few die hards will pick up a PS4 for it but not many as far as a casual gamer demographic is concerned.

[NeckBeardBSMTDweller]

... Not really. Sony wants to think so since they bought exclusivity. But I havent bought a SF since SNES. And SF IV had was released so may times. Street Fighter IV, Super Street Fighter IV, ULTIMATE Street Fighter IV..... IOS Street Fighter IV (2 Versions) how much money can they milk from this franchise?

ZZZzzzzZZZzzzzZZZ.....

[Stogz]

Quick! Someone call Sony and tell them this guy hasnt bought SF since the SNES. Time to cancel this game as quickly as possible!

[Dewitt]

The real question is how many versions of this game is Capcom going to try and milk out of people?

[Dmagic]

Do some research before talking you look very ignorant right now.

[Dewitt]

Seriously?

Street Fighter 4 (vanilla), Super Street Fighter 4, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition v2012 and Ultra Street Fighter 4.

[PoopsMcGee]

@ Dewitt

He said "do some research" because Capcom already addressed that by saying that there won't be multiple iterations of SFV like there was with previous installments.

[Dewitt]

They say that now, but I refuse to believe they won't milk customers once it gets popular.

[JMyers]

Looking forward to this game... Many people downplaying it as not a true exclusive... yet if it was a Console Exclusive on Xbox One, and 360, with a PC release it would certainly count as one. If this is the case then how many true exclusives are in MS's "Greatest line-up in Xbox history"?

The only console the game can be played on is PS4. Otherwise play on PC. Simple. It is certainly a PS4 system seller.

[WarPuppet96]

I will be getting this for sure for PC because I have an arcade machine and one for ps4 for the my oldest boy and he has fight stick.

[jznrpg]

They need a Limited Edition version with several characters or a mural of all of them.

[PurpHerbison]

I will be playing this on PC. Easy choice for me as I don't want to spend $200 on a PS4 stick when all my sticks work just fine on PC.

[Akuma2K]

That hate for SF5 is real judging by most of the comments made, the game is going to sell plenty of PS4 consoles and there's nothing the salty trolls can do about it.....lol

[Tobsesan]

Custom console would be cool

[Versability]

People still play Street Fighter? Have they not heard of Tekken? ;)

[audiocafe]

Tekken, my favorite fighting game franchise :)

[lastking95]

Mortal kombat is the only fighter I play personally since last gen started. I do admit I almost bought a wii U for smash bros alone. Play smash regularly over a friends house fun game.

Been a long time since I played SF and Tekken. I remember being more of a tekken fan. Jaguar head ftw lol

[thisgamer503]

Considering anyone who is really into street fighter competitively will get the ps4 for this game, I'd say it's safe to call it a system seller. While I'll be picking it up on pc, a competitive player needs the console to be more mobile. There's really no question regardless of sentiment toward the exclusivity (which i dislike)

[Factchecker]

as I said before... One would have to be delusional or working for Microsoft to deny that SF5 will have a positive effect on PS4 sales upon release. I just don't understand why anyone would be trying to downplay how positive this is for Sony just because it's not going to be on the console they own. All the comments about getting it on PC and playing it with the Xbox Elite controller won't change the fact that SF5 will not be available on Xbox One.

[sovkhan]

That was one great move from Sony!!!!

Securing the most iconic fighting game, is certainly going to have a much more important impact on its console sales.

People can prefer Tekken, Kof, G gears or even KI, but none of these has the world wide recognition SF offers.

[audiocafe]

I agree. Like you said I'm one of those guys who prefers Tekken over SF, and I like SF and Guilty Gear about evenly, but at the end of the day SF has the most world wide recognition. I'm more amazed at people who downplay the weight SF has in the FG Community and globally though, calling it a washed up franchise and how other fighters are now the king of fighting games now. I've heard these remarks before and it's just surprising people (fanboys?) think this.

[sovkhan]

Exactly, tbh i always favored KOF over anything else, Kof 99 being my all time fav!!!

But let's be honest for a moment, nothing, not even close, is more iconic than SF when it comes to fighting games. Hell!!! the serie started way back in 87 and it's still alive and kicking'!!!!

Its longevity is quite telling!!!