Microsoft crack Japan

ANALYSIS How Microsoft must be smiling now, with queues in Tokyo to buy Xbox 360s and with major stores selling out. And it didn't take rocket science to achieve this volte face.

[jkhan]

Question is can they carry the momentum? Sony really need to put some JRPGs on the shelf as soon as possible.
On the topic this guy is a serious xbox fanboy. I mean have you ever read so much positive attitude about xbox360 and so much hate for the ps3 from the same journalist. This guy impressed me;)

[Jamie Foxx]

are you serious?in the article his talkng like 360 sold millions and millions 'all those japanese gamers with new 360s' it sold 24k not 500k,i swear he said the same when ace combat 6 was released

dont get me wrong props to ms for selling 24,000 360s but come on, japan are starved of rpg's at the moment and 24k for a good rpg is not a saviour and in the greater scope of things a let down why... because numbers should be much higher than that japan is the home of rpgs,
when ff13 is released it will kill 24k units on a bad day which in reality is just another rpg.

i believe the new phenomonon in japan will be LBP its quirky,it captures the imagination and i just see it taking off in a way that noone will be prepared for not even sony themselves.

[RealityCheck]

jkhan, this is from "bruceongames" a well known PS3 hater. I wish we could put some sources on an ignore list, like we can do for some users. I like all my consoles, hating one or another is counterproductive.

[Lumbo]

Please don't insult journalists by calling Bruce a journalist. He is a blogger at max, and not a very good one. Reminds me of "iwantmypsp4xmas"

[Willio]

"Now you will tell me that one swallow doesn’t make a summer."

i simply just dont get it.

[Bloodwar]

You are calling Japan home of the RPG yet you say on a bad day, they sell 24,000 units. In America, a bad day would be selling a million units, especially for something with the name Finaly Fantasy tagged to the title. =)

This is merely an opinion of mine. Yes perhaps Japan's industry creates JRPGs, but they don't sell the most RPGs nor do they necessarily create the greatest RPGs. Check out Knights of the Old Republic and KOTOR 2 for the original Xbox and I think those games also come out on PC if you don't own an Xbox. And some of the other Western imagined and developed RPGs that have graced the Xbox brand.

Japan is a very important market. It gives MS the credibility it needs in Asia. If MS can crack Japan, it can crack the Asian market. Then again, China's growing economy is one to consider. MS has a few R&D facilties in China. Who knows what they are working on Xbox related in China at the moment.

For closing I would like to say that I am glad that Japan is getting these great games, even if they are exclusive to the 360. It gives our Japanese brothers and sisters an opportunity to try a different flavor. They might accept us Westerners a little more and not see us so much as lessor to them but as equals.

[Adamalicious]

You can't put sources on Ignore, but you can take the matter to the admins. If they deem that a site isn't worth having as a source for N4G they can ban it. I would totally support banning this lame-o blog.

[MNicholas]

however, the practice of buying titles from independent developers is a an expensive but potentially effective practice because by buying off titles that would otherwise have made it to your competitor gives consumers less reasons to buy your competitor.

It's also an anti-free market and monopolistic practice. A good analogy would be Toyota paying off Mobil and Sunoco so that only Toyota cars can fill up at those Mobil and Sunoco gas stations. In such a situation it would be very inconvenient for consumers to own something other than a Toyota in most cities.

Still, as of now it's not illegal so it's Microsoft's one tiny chance at truly cracking the japanese market. However, the larger the PS3's installed base gets the more Microsoft will have to pay developers to make sure that it's 360 only. Why? Because selling those types of games is a sure bet on the PS3 and Microsoft would have to pay those companies enough to cover the lost profits from not being able to sell to PS3 owners.

[Mao]

I'm now a PS360 owner and it's all for my love of JRPGs. MS has done well for themselves with the JRPG crowd, one week or not Japan sales prove it.

[Megatron08]

If the article is true then not only has it sold 24k in 1 week it sold out in many places and there are more people waiting to buy them as soon as they are restocked. The 360 also has pretty impressive list of JRPG's coming out over the next few months. So it might be able to keep it sales high for a while.

[predator]

We will have to wait to see how Infinite Undiscovery does and how many units of software and hardware that pushes....but overall yeah the 360 can enjoy some much needed success over there and hopefully that will last a bit longer too

[aceitman]

then what did sony do when 74,000 ps3 where sold when mgs4 came out split them wide open ....

[Fishy Fingers]

Tales of Vesperia cracks Japan more like. Regardless of people claiming console bias/manufacturer bias if a console has the right games that appeal people will buy it.

Tales of Vesperia as an exclusive 360 JRPG was obviously going to propel 360 sales, but MS doesn't have an exclusive every month.

[predator]

actualy they do but October

[himdeel]

...to the genre of game not the system. This goes for consoles and handhelds. You put a JPRPG on the PSP or DS and you will see similar movement.

[Syronicus]

*checks to see who author is*

Oh, Bruce, it's you again...

*moves on*

Nothing to see here folks.

[v1c1ous]

i do the same with every hiphopgamer post :D

[Silogon]

I swear, Bruce must have a trust fund for his kids set up through Microsoft or something cause this is the biggest fanboy I've ever seen. EVER! He is out and out absurd to the point you don't know if he is serious or not anymore. Bruce, please... quit your day job here.

There is no "break" thru on the Japanese front. 24 thousand units is nothing. When they reach a million units after 3 years on the market, it's bad. Alright? It's worse than bad, it's a disaster. The even sadder part, they haven't even hit 1 million units sold in japan yet. Not even 1 million, Bruce... 3 years, not even 1 million.

Your break thru in Japan is about as meaningful as your website.

[HDDVD_ftw]

Yeah, bots are really desperate these days... Give them a game, please.

Seriously, your console is dying, get over it, we can't do anything about it, and neither can you.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Do we have to read this SH*T from this CR*P site 'bruceongames.com'???
Let's have more from that other CR*P site xBoxMartQueens.con whatever it's called!!! ;-D

+Take my Bubbles away you Cheating R*tards!!! ;-D I'll be Back!!! ;-D

+It should say -

'Microsoft take Crack in Japan(and think they have won the Console Wars!!!)' ;-D

[AngryTypingGuy]

Yeah, the 360's really dying, except for the fact that Gears 2 will outsell any PS3 release this year including MGS4, and the fact that more games are sold on the 360.

[robbo918]

If you compare current games sales between PS3 and X360 instead of using the lifetime attach rate (since the X360 had a year with no competition at all), they are starting to show a different story. Software sales are closing fast...but who knows where this will all end up.

[HDDVD_ftw]

Ridiculous article. They sold 20k consoles with Tales one week, it shows absolutely nothing and saves absolutely nothing for MS. Crapbox is still dead and buried in Japan...

Seriously, stop approving this crap, written by a poor xbot (brucemyballs)... Still, if I had no games like them, I would have time to write crappy BS articles.

MS sold a console in Mongolia I think, go write an article about it.

[clintos59]

I aint no proffessional analyst but if u see how successful super mario games are in japan which are huge, I think LBP is going to be that first game on the ps3 that will have a very huge impact in japan. Im serious im banking that LBP will sell a couple of million copies in japan alone. Mark my words. :)

[juuken]

I agree, and Japanese people are very creative. :3

[juuken]

Reported as offensive troll.
Try harder.

[kewlkat007]

It's not going to magically do a 180 with one game. I actually think Phil Harrison had a a good stance on that argument and not too many were happy with some of his statements.

LBP is not Mario,I'm not sure why some are so quick to crown it next mario. I think based on the functions of a 2-D side scroller it might be better in that term but will others really embrace the modding aspects, let alone japan.

I totally would love if they started making 2-D games again. It has been a dieing art. I'm def gonna play but I wish some games could stand up on their own merits, instead of referencing it to like, well, the most important character ever to grace console gaming.

On the article, let's give credit where it's due. We all know Japanese don't buy much Xbox 360. This is nothing new here but you can't say MS ha snot been trying, regardless how. You do have infinite Undiscovery also coming out, so more than enough games for the Japanese hardcore. At least what they are used to or liking the most.

[SixTwoTwo]

Nintendo Wii says hello.

LBP is a game where you and 3 friends can sit together in your living room and f*** around creating practically ANYTHING you want. The japanese are going to go apesh!t over LBP.

@juukens other account... lame --__--

[kewlkat007]

Online.

Not sitting together and playing the Wii.

Console gamers been doing that for ages..

[SixTwoTwo]

If you think LBP won't be successful in Japan because of online then you're in for a shock.

[ChefDejon]

you should stop giving your opinion ongames.

[qface64]

bruce huh ill remember not to take anything he says seriously

[Lumbo]

Hmm, source is Bruceongames, author is Bruceongames, value is zero, sorry, no visit, no advert money, FAIL

[Adamalicious]

More like Bruce on Lames!!1one haha!! pwned! :P

[soul899er]

LOL Bruceongames.. nuff said >_<

[Mr PS3]

Microsoft My AssCrack in Japan

[juuken]

Wow...they cracked Japan with one game.

Microsoft would need plenty of rpg's to *really* crack the market. The last time I remembered, the land of the rising sun is Sony/Nintendo's turf.

Bruce...why am I not surprised. You give hope to the 360 crowd, I'll give you that.

[juuken]

Reported as offensive once again.
If 360 fanboys have to stoop as low as to bash members at N4G, then I truly feel sorry for them. :)

@ predator, 360 fanboys have been known for doing this, especially when they seemingly hate my guts. They're basically tracking me to try stealing every one of my bubbles. And they're probably doing this with every other PS3 fan.

I wasn't born yesterday.

[predator]

why is he a 360 fanboy? he could be a ps3 fanboy for all you know? its not goos singling him/her out as a certain fanboy...they are just an idiot

edit: well it sounds like you were born yesterday if you think its just 360 fans doing this kinda sh!t..just ingnore them

[juuken]

Um...predator, it's kind hard to ignore that when the person is using my username for their amusement. It's also kind of hard to ignore when they're making sexual comments that leans towards harassment to the first degree.

And if PS3 owners are doing the same thing, it's only because they're trying to fight back.

[PopEmUp]

why don't you press the button that say "ignore" and it work like magic, beside the guys that used your username is a 3 years old kid, don't worry about him and just move on, latter his mommy will come and spank him on the @ss for using his daddy computer

[juuken]

You're right PopEmUp.

[karlostomy]

you KNOW you can't resist reading *anyone's* comments as long as they reply to YOU, dear girl.

So saying you will ignore 'juuken's other account' is just straight out self denial for your considerably fragile ego is it not?

Oh and btw, if you don't like my comments, just put me on ignore too, princess. (at least until you can't resist and read them anyway)

XD

[Testo]

Shut the F*ck up!

XD

[karlostomy]

Why so testy today?
3rd place making you angry?

XD

[ape007]

remeber how psp did with crises core

just wait until you see ff13

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xbots are so funny these days

[pp]

It want be too long before xbox360 takes ps3 lead this is just the beginning of the end for ps3 in japan

[HDDVD_ftw]

Dreams =/= Reality

Retards =/= Analysts

[robbo918]

Wow thanks for the laugh "pp".

[DanWelsh86]

But lolz, just absolute lolage at how ridiculous your statement is. Lolz all the way to the bank. What a clown.

[Solid_Snake666]

check your grammar

[ElementX]

You know what they say about people named Bruce..... yeah... Miss Thing

[Raoh]

LOL you want to talk sales spike due to a new release in japan?

wait till the ps3 ffxiii blu ray only demo that comes with the blu ray release of Advent Children

vesperia looks like a good game.. but the 360 has a few sales spikes in japan every now and then due to some of these releases.. it hasnt helped them crack anything...

[InMyOpinion]

At least he's better than Hiphopgamer. Bruce knows how to write and has worked in the business whereas Hiphopgamer is just a bum with the intellect of a toddler.

I know most of you will disagree with this cause Hiphopgamer is a PS3 fanboy and not biased towards the 360.

[juuken]

I disagreed because Bruce has been known for being a biased prick who sings the praises of the 360 and never acknowledges the fact that the PS3 has come a long way since 2007.

I would not call him a journalist first of all, and second of all, his writing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

And stop picking on hiphopgamer for the last damn time. In case you haven't noticed, he has always provided both sides of the argument from both the PS3 and 360 perspective. He has both systems, but could you fault him for preferring the PS3?

That's his preference.

I'll be owning two consoles as well but the PS3 is my main preference.

Disagree as much as you want but it doesn't change the fact that Brucie here acts like the Messiah of the 360 fanboys.

@ Jenzo

"But do you honestly believe that Hiphopgamer is equally biased towards the 360? I know he tries hard to make it look like he's into both systems, but you must be pretty naive to let him fool you."

Because he owns both systems...duh?

How am I naive to believe him? Wow...and you're naive to not see that he does provide some good arguments and he made even Greenburg look like an idiot in front of the camera.

Just because he says positive things about the PS3, that means he's hating on the 360? I have watching nearly all his videos and I agree with most of his comments.

He has a point, but 360 fanboys will never admit that.

[InMyOpinion]

I didn't say Bruce is not biased, it's obvious he's biased towards the 360. If one of them is to be considered a journalist it's Bruce. Hiphop can't write at all.

But do you honestly believe that Hiphopgamer is equally biased towards the 360? I know he tries hard to make it look like he's into both systems, but you must be pretty naive to let him fool you. I know you are heavily biased towards the PS3 just as him so that might be a factor.

I think both Bruce and Hiphopgamer are fanboys, but I'm surprised how people slam Bruce for not being 'journalistic' and at the same time approve of Hiphopgamers incoherent drivel.

*edit* How does owning both systems change anything? Does that make him immune to bias? lol!

[titntin]

If by 'working in the business', you mean 'been an accountant at a games firm' then you are right.
But Bruce knows nothing about making games, and is the kind of accountant all true devs absolutely detest.

Seriously - he's a MS fanboy through and through of course, but I couldn't care who he has an unholy allegiance with, his opinion is utterly worthless.

[SkyGamer]

Hey juuken, there have been plenty of sony execs that have said some pretty stupid and outrageous claims as well. 4-d? ps3 will replace computers as it is more powerful? That should tell everyone exactly how powerful the cell is when games like crysis can blow the ps3 and X360 out of the water. The cell is like a 350 (standard big good engine, power pc core with 8 turbos on it, spe's) Intel's new chip is like 8 individual engines emulating 16 engines. Imagine adding tubos on them!

You guys need to back off of juuken. He is getting a lot better in his posts, while he is free to have his console preference, he does it so professionally. There are other people on this site that are idiots that need "your undivided attention" instead.

[360rxorz]

Microsoft wins!!!!! PS3 finally is starting to die out! It's a great day for gamers everywhere.

[HDDVD_ftw]

Ah ah ah, you're all so desperate these days.

Your failure rate is well above 33 %.

Kisses.

[CrizzleC24]

Nice try, but even having a bad rep of failure cant stop the 360 from being on top(if wii didnt exist).

Even if your excuse is that the people were buying consoles over again, it still shows that they cared enough to buy another 360. Which is more than what can be said about your failstation,people wont even buy them if its even a 0% failure margin(mostly because of one good game per year reputation).

But hey its cool by Ps4 time, you'll have 10 good games!

READ THE WHOLE GODDAMN COMMENT BEFORE SAYING SOMETHING STUPID

Sucks that I have to say that after every comment, but ps3 users must only read the title (nasim,ali_the_brit,littleprin cess,microsoftspokesman,and most recently, Bpac1234.)

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

I WILL REPEAT, READ THE WHOLE COMMENT BEFORE REPLYING.

[33Pct_FailRate]

@crizzle :

no it's not on top, retard. It's outsold and crushed every month worldwide. Go learn reading numbers at school, mongoloid.

Nobody cares you sold 3 consoles in japan because of a new game.

You fail (like your console).

[Jdoki]

Another fantastic piece of journalism from BruceonGames /sarcasm!

It's great to see the 360 doing well, but lets be honest. This is probably another short lived blip on the 360's Japanese sales chart.

Blue Dragon shifted more consoles when launched, and the figures quickly settled back down. I don't see anything different happening here.

What it does illustrate is that the Japanese market is still very hungry for JRPG's. This is something Sony should really take note of.

[sonyfanonly]

wow are they really surprised that a rpg sold good in japan OMFG these people are ignorant if this tales of verspia game came out on the ps3 the same time as the 360 then the ps3 version would of sold 10x the 360 version and the tales of verspia is a timed exclusive on the 360 just wait till it does come to the ps3 better sales all the way around

[jerethdagryphon]

other acount stop making offensive remarks its ion bad taste rude and tottaly inapropiate

[Bruceongames]

I have never worked as "an accountant at a games firm". This is pure made up fiction.
I have been involved commercially in the game industry since 1978.
Try reading this: http://zxgoldenyears.net/ev...

[titntin]

You are a trained accountant.

Even the sickeningly obsequious article you link to says :
"In the late-Seventies, Bruce Everiss was an accountant with an interest in computers."
It's a point of fact that your formal education form Lindisfarne College is in accountancy?
If a doctor is a doctor, then surely an accountant is an accountant? So if you work in a games company, does that not mean you are an accountant in the games industry? The only fiction here is your own glowing self belief in your own importance.

I'll concede that you held marketing positions, but I actually have a lot more time for accountants than I do for marketeers, who have often understood the market even less than the money men, and apply the same universal approach to marketing a product as if it were a 'kids fluffy toy'. They become so bound up in their own hype and spin, that actually lose perspective and start to beleive it, and you seen to demonstarte that very well.
The fact that in my development experience I've met very few marketers who actually know anything about the business at all, is pretty irrelevant. Anyone reading your articles with any sense of objectivity would could come to the same conclusions without having had experienced 'the type' first hand.

When I first started reading your articles I assumed you wrote the tripe you do just to get hits, and though I hated it, I imagined you were shrewed and clever and laughed at what you wrote yourself. In some ways I gave you grudging respect for being a clever manipulator. Its become obvious though, that you actually beleive this stuff and think that your vision of 'the way it is' is somehow related to reality!

[Bruceongames]

I did not study accountancy at Lindisfarne college.
You are wrong once again. It is not a point in fact.

In fact Lindisfarne College was a British public school where I did my sixth form studies in Physics, Biology, Chemistry and Maths.

And I don't care how much time you have for accountants or marketeers because I have far less time for misinformed idiots who post lies on public websites.

[Bzone24]

Bruce, all you have to do is change to more of a gangsta look and start praising the almighty ps3 and people here will love you. That's the only way you are going to make it on this site. This is a ps3 fansite after all.

[titntin]

Enough time it seems to post rebuttals?? If you don't care Bruce, then why reply?

If you want to pretend that even your own CV's, that clearly show you are a trained accountant, are not correct, then you are of course free to do so.

Did you not set up an accountancy firm as your first 'job'?

Are you telling us that you are not in fact a trained accountant?

There's only one person here spinning the truth.

I'm stating an opinion, one people can make their own minds up about (and it would seem the majority agree with my assesment of the worth of your articles judging buy the comments they attract). You however, are trying to suggest that you are not trained in accountancy despite all your 'history saying that you are!
So much spin, you may need to sit down...

[kingme71]

Sony and Nintendo should just give up then... oh wait, this is Bruce on Games, sorry moving on, nothing to read here.

[dro]

hiphopgamer show is non bias and he says good point about both the ps3 and 36.....u should watch is sometime,im sure u will not find it bad,............ on topic...the article is a bit dumb :/

cracks japan,yh rite. if that game was relased on the ps3 sales will have been higher than 24,ooo,...i think ms knows that theres is know reall hope for the 360 over there,sales will go up when a new rpg game comes out but it will not be that high as they wanted it and it will not last... XD

[zonetrooper5]

Of course the 360 hasn't cracked Japan, Microsoft just needs more titles like this to keep it selling.

[dkgshiz]

There in 2nd place, and lost everywhere except japan! Look at the july NPD numbers. And look at all the other countries. 360s is just for losers. PS3 is only 4 million consoles away. Its catching up to the 360 really fast. Plus you dont even know how many consoles they sold in japan! It could be only 10,000! When they say its selling good in japan. Selling good in japan could be like 10,000 consoles. Remember how the 360 is flopping over there?

[DJ]

But if they keep up a steady stream of great titles, then they obviously will. Gears 1 was pretty successful in Japan, so they should definitely release that (almost) day and date as the U.S. version.

[titntin]

Pretty big 'if' DJ. GEARS2 will sell no doubt, but it will be the other RPG's that are likely to induce more spikes. We saw similar spikes for Ace Combat 6, and even Dynasty Warriors 6 (despite that being multi plat), but they were fairly short lived.

About the only point I agreed with in the article, was that the more installed base they have the better for the machines chances in that market for the long run, so the more 'spikes' they can generate the better. But I don't think theres enough software to keep the momentum going.. I guess we'll see!

[Bladestar]

Crack Japan? mm... I don't know about that... but it does put to rest the fears of some Japanese developers like square that if they make a game for the xbox 360 it would flop in terms of sells and they would not make their invested money back... it's true that the xbox 360 will not sell out of brand name like Sony and Nintendo can do... but if they keep pumping games the games and the consoles will sell...

[deividpaulo]

sorry...but everybody knows that 360 isn't selling in Japan...

[Exia]

Good for them! Let's see how long this momentum can go on. And if it does go on, Sony better do something! Better announce White Knight Chronicles to come out Christmas this year if they plan to keep Japan in the palm of their hands.

[Alex_Mexico]

but ppl tend to forget that the EXACT same thing happened the week of Blue Dragon and Ace Combat's release in Japan. It had a 300% increase in sales that week the 360 and the next week was back to normal sales again.

If this ToV + Infinite Undiscovery + Star Ocean (if this last game does end up being a true exclusive which doesnt seem like it) don't make the Xbox maintain higher sales in Japan nothing will.

[IzKyD1331]

as soon as i saw bruceongames, i lol'd

[ActionBastard]

I don't think crack is accurate. Hairline fracture maybe? Unless of course the author is referring to what he smoked before writing this madness.

[PeptoBismol]

ROFLCOPTER

[poopface1]

But its good to see microsoft can give the japaneese some RPGs.

I Just thisk its funny how everyone mention LBP. Its the same story different day with you people. "This wii be awsome, that will be great someday." When it doesnt happen what game will you talk up next.

[poopface1]

I pissed on mine.

[Quickstrike]

the 360 sells better then usual in Japan and the bots think they won. Lets have a reality check here. Millions of PS3's and Wii's sold in japan vs not even .5 million 360's in japan (last I checked that is). Lets just wait a week and things will be back to normal

[Stickguy259]

And it appears to be full of Xbox haters. Anything that is remotly anti sony is wrong, but everything anti Micrsoft is right... it seems to me that there is a double standard going on here.

[ActionBastard]

"I've been on this site for about two weeks now"

Well that explains it. Give it time and you'll notice there are equal haters to all platforms here. However, the Xbox fans are more vocal with their whining, where the PS fans look for the littlest thing to attack the 360 over and Wii fans just laugh because there is not point is arguing sales numbers with them. DS and PSP fans are excluded. simply because there really isn't anything to complain about.

[Stickguy259]

I'll give it some time. I just don't see the point in console fanboys at all. I have an Xbox 360 and Wii, and am looking forward to one day having a PS3. But then again, I guess there's always gonna be some people out there who want to ruin other peoples fun.

[33Pct_FailRate]

No, no, they don't want to ruin anybody's fun. Actually console war is just a new entertaining way to spend time on the net.

When your job is boring (like mine), nothing beats writing sarcastic posts that piss everybody off. Join us on the dark side. You could be the Wii fanboy, a rare animal.

[poopface1]

IS YOUR JOB TESTING PS3 GAMES!!! that does sound pretty boring.

I agreed with you cause it is fun to make people mad and write long responses back to you which you dont read but can disagree with.

[wardende]

I have read these fanboy rants for a long time on the net, but now I want to actually post something for the first time. I have grown frustrated by the mindless crap that you guys chat. I own a PS3, Wii and 360. The Wii is for my son, he's 8. The PS3 is for Bluray purposes, and my 360 is for gaming.

I bought all the consoles on day of release. The wii is absolute toilet, it's a repackaged gamecube with a wireless controller, selling awful games and I have no idea how it's doing so well. My son likes it but he likes the gamecube so there you go!

I bought my 360 on launch day in December 2005, it was underwhelming, with no real games worth playing till November 2006 in GOW. Now I play Halo 3, GOW, PRO EVO, Virtua Tennis 3, SOUL CALIBUR 4, GTA 4 and PGR4. I play my 360 every night for hours. It offers excellent online play thru xbox live, superb graphics, equal to the PS3 despite any numbers or any crap that anyone can say about this and that. It has HD movies for download, it has an array of exclusives, it has the ability to listen to music in game, it has cross game messaging and cross game chat, private chat, a superb xbox live arcade selection where most games are redone in HD and online playable. It has no bluray, but I don't care because I;m a gamer and I pay for games, not to watch HI DEF DVD's on my console.

Now I come to my PS3. I was one of the poor mugs who bought this on day of release for £425, that's $800 for you americans out there. I got no games, and had to pay for my HDMI cable extra. I have no rumble in my pad, and I purchased Resistance and Motorstorm as they were dubbed the best games. These games are both crap, and Resistance grafix are nothing compared to GOW. There is no rumble so you feel detached from games, If I want to listen to music on my PS3 I have to sit there and leave it on the music screen, you cant back out. There isnt a single HD movie available for download, just trailers. There are no arcade games, apart from one or two PSone games. There is limited backwards compatibility because I'm european. I had to wait 4 months extra because Im european. I had to pay more because Im european.

Anyway nearly 2 years on from owning a ps3, I have no games at all. I have a demo of heavenly sword as that's ok, but It's not worth purchasing. I rented MGS4 from blockbuster, thinking that the time had come that the PS3 actually had a decent game. I was horrified, I got the game home, then I found out that I had to install the game>!>!>! WHAT THE HELL?? Install a console game? I thought that was for PC's?

I then went straight to test it out online, I was then told to do another update for the firmware of my PS3, so I did that. 1 hour and 15 minutes later I was able to play MGS4. I was not surprised to find it ladened with cut scenes, I played the game for 3 minutes before ruling it as a movie with 720p graphics. I waited 1 hour and 15 minutes to play this game, and it was toilet. Some fanboys must;ve been waiting years, I feel sorry for them.

I Can;t stand the fact that Sony dont have an official PS3 headset, the bluetooth ones are ladened with issues, dropped connections and just general bad design.

My 360 is the daddy of all consoles, it does so much more than the Ps3 will ever be able to do. All multi format games are purchased on my 360 as they offer better online support and rumble. I know that the rumble freature has recently been introduced for the ps3 but this does not make up for the awful console. It has had price drop after price drop, but at the same time instead of dropping the price they downscale the console, removing media card readers and usb ports, downsize the hard drive and remove backwards compatibility. I cant believe people queue up to defend Sony, they are awful and produce mediocre garbage fit for the bargain bin. I really hope the 360 wins this generation ( and I dont count the wii as a next gen console) as if the ps3 wins then it's dark dark days for us gamers.

[CrizzleC24]

The spelling was a little off, but it was a masterful explanation of all the things wrong with the Ps3 so far.

I experienced the same anger with the music system on the failstation as you, but I couldnt tolerate it and traded the grill in to get some 360 games at gamestop(that and I cant afford an HDTV in college so why bother with a blu-ray on standard def Tv?).

If Killzone 2 and Home ever come out it might slowly become a real gaming console but right now its reminding me of the electric car, sure everybody wants one, but will it ever come out? Or will they dangle it over our heads forever.

READ THE WHOLE COMMENT BEFORE REPLYING OR YOU WILL APPEAR EVEN MORE RETARDED THAN YOU ARE ALREADY

[33Pct_FailRate]

Blah blah blah.

Your console is dead, mongoloid. Change your pic, it makes me ill.

[HuntTheWumpus]

You summed up my feelings on 360 vs PS3 in your post. I will be a proud owner of a 360 next month and everyone I've asked about what game machine to get they all have said the Xbox 360. Even with the failure rates people still choose it and a testiment to how good the gaming is. I will get a PS3 in February however but will probably be used as a Blu-ray player more than anything.

I don't expect your post to be very popular on N4G and I can see you are already getting accused for having multiple accounts. I will give you a bubble for your good post. Thanks.

[wardende]

I'm also fed up of cheap idiots whining about Xbox live not being free. A perfect example of why it isn't free is the PS3 online service. Riddled with kids with numerous accounts, lag and no decent service at all. If you have to pay for your account you dont abuse it as much, I have encountered a lot of team killing, childish behaviour on PS3 as the network is free, it lets children sign up and in as many different names as possible. It also angers me the way they have ripped off the achievement system and call it trophies or some crap like that.

We're nearly 2 years into the PS3 and it has absolutely nothing on the 360. The graphics arent any better, all multi format games are better on 360 because of better online support and exclusive downloadable content (GTA). What sort of a company releases a demo and charges for it? (GT5 prologue). SOny fanboys you are mugs. Yeah yeah RROD, how much effort is it to go down the shop and swap it for another console? I bet I can do that in less than 1 hour and 15 minutes whilst I'm waiting for my PS3 game to install. How long does it take to switch a disc instead of installing stuff?? Even if the 360 has to release games on multiple discs It;ll be still quicker than installing and upgrading firmware for every damn game.

[silverchode]

im guessing wardende is mart.

[poopface1]

that YOUR THEMart too. oHHH NOOOOOOOOO

[CrizzleC24]

Think before you comment.

[Solid_Snake666]

your an idiot go check when your xbox will be back

[silverchode]

lol at the alt sources.

[wardende]

Negative, Im not mart, whatever and whoever that is. I regularly read N4G.com when I have trouble getting to sleep at night, I have grown frustrated with ps3 fanboys. Let's make one thing clear, im not a 360 fanboy, im a gamer. I like the best console of each generation, not one particular brand every generation regardless of how crap the console is.

I liked:

Sega Master System (didnt like NES)

SNES & MEGADRIVE ( couldnt decide which was best, probably SNES)

PSone & N64 (thought the psone was cool, but loved zelda and goldeneye, mario kart etc)

PS2 and Xbox & Dreamcast (loved Socom, halo and shenmue)

360 (the best console I've ever owned, clear choice for the true hardcore gamer between 15-40 years of age.

I dont stick to one brand, I buy the games on the best console for it's generation. The consoles above are the consoles I highly rate, the worst consoles ever are the Gamecube, Wii and PS3, and the saturn also, I wont even go into the mega cd and 32x.

Oh and you can blame this all on Nintendo, if they hadnt of stitched up Sony with the super CD contract these idiots at Sony wouldnt even have decided to make the playstation brand.

[PopEmUp]

at lease it's better than Rushour360, you can see what it become a laughing stock of the industry, rephrase you're an xbot no wonder you have a hard sleeping, cause you scare you gonna get RROD again

[Quickstrike]

but your writing leads me to believe otherwise.
I think your the mart back again or just a xbot straight from the M$ attack squad

[xhairs9]

kill bruce, so I can stop seeing his crappy one-sided articles posted on n4g? Enough is enough get over yourself ya has-been.

[LonewolfXIII]

I support the PS3 all the way and yet ... thats not to say there arent games on the Xbox I dont deeply wish to play and this is one of them (the others being Mass Effect and Fable 2). Who knows if MS keeps going with there desperate strategy and drops the 360s price down to say 200 I may just by it for those games >.>

[Surfman]

bruce on games lol

[smurfie4]

You expect people to take you serious when you title your comment delaystation 3?! Thats an insult from the get-go and straight-up immature.

your words: "Yeah yeah RROD, how much effort is it to go down the shop and swap it for another console?"

my answer: How hard was it for Microsoft to test the 360 before prematurely releasing it into the market? Especially with them being fully aware of its hardware problems. How hard is it for Microsoft to not replace your defective 360 with an even more f*cked up refurbished 360?

your words: "How long does it take to switch a disc instead of installing stuff"

my answer: How can you finish a game when you scratch disc 2? An install eliminates that worry.

your words: "We're nearly 2 years into the PS3 and it has absolutely nothing on the 360"

my answer: We're nearly 3 years into the 360 and the hardware reliability is still as sh1tty as when it first launched. We're nearly 3 years into the 360 and its graphics benchmark is still Gears.
We're nearly 3 years into 360 and Microsoft are still bribing developers. We're nearly 3 years into 360 and developers are having to compromise quality and content to fit their games on dvd9.

your words: "The graphics arent any better, all multi format games are better on 360 because of better online support and exclusive downloadable content (GTA"

my answer: I dare you to compare Uncharted to anything on the 360 and still come to the same conclusion. Exclusive downloadable content is not needed in a game like gta that boasts 100 hours of play. 360 may have the upper hand in online features for now but the gap is closing.

I could go on but this has already transpired into a rant on my behalf.

[Gish]

I am still trying to figure out why it matters to me if 360/PS3 is selling well in Japan. In my view, all the consoles are doing well so it's not like we are having to worry that Sony or Microsoft is going to give up. Secondly, most japanese influenced games aren't my taste. I should clarify that with JRPG's arent usually my taste. I would actually rather western developers not be too influenced by those. Just my thoughts.

[wardende]

So basically your argument is that the 360 is unreliable, yes it is. However I dont know anyone with an HDMI 360 that has encountered a problem. I admit it's unreliable, but it's still 100 times better for gaming than the PS3.

I've lived thru 5 generations of console wars, and this one is the closest so far I think. BUt I cant understand it as the ps3 is so bad. I thought HOME was being released in Jan 08? I thought Killzone 2 was coming out in february? I thought MGS4 would be worth playing?

It's interesting, you talk about me saying multi format games are better on 360 and you try to put my point down by saying that unchartered is a wicked game? The game is crap. It renders in 720p. How come the PS3 raves about its HD abilities yet you have your two best games in unchartered and MGS4 only able to output 720p??

How come 360 gets exclusive content for GTA? Wasnt GTA the playstations baby for many years? THe tables are turning, the devs, the true gamers are all 360 fans, the PS3 is for people who like HD DVD's and who like to wait forever for something underwhelming to come out like unchartered, MGS4 and GT5 when it eventually arrives. I wonder how many more demos you idiots will pay for just because Sony cant be bothered to release a game? talk about milking it!! I seem to remember the halo 3 beta coming free with a good game in Crackdown, Microsoft didnt fleece people, they gave it to us for free.

[smurfie4]

Home got delayed for quality assurance. Something that would have benefited the 360. When considering the scope of this interface you would imagine that Sony wants to make it as functional as possible. The open beta is scheduled for later this year. Killzone is still coming out in FEBRUARY 09! Where did you see that it was supposed to come out February 08? Uncharted renders in 720 yet manages to look better than any 360 game to date. Ninja Gaiden Sigma, GT5, Wardevil, and Ridge Racer 7 all manage to run at native 1080 at 60fps. Ninja Gaiden 2 couldnt push 720p. What happened there? Case closed. GTA got exclusive content because microsoft threw 50million dollars at Rockstar. GT5prologue has 6 tracks, 70 vehicles, and online play. Thats one hell of a f*cking demo If you want my opinion. The ps3's boasted format is the blue-ray so why would it be a console for people who want hd-dvd's? A format that boasts more space and higher resolution. fail. You just called Uncharted and MGS4 underwhelming? The critics and consumers would whole-heartedly disagree with that. You better check some reviews before running off at the mouth about that game. I wonder how many refurbished consoles 360 supporters are going to go through before they buy some reliable hardware.

[Marty8370]

360 is dead in Japan, and never will catch up.

[brothersimon]

End of next year: 360 best selling, number 1 worldwide.

[PopEmUp]

What you mean by no.1 worldwide next year (2009), since I have not heard a single game that could have a potential to sell the system, um can you tell me cause i really have a hard time thinking of one, btw 2008 goes like this for 360 Geow, fable2, banjo, too human that i can think of my head,
for the PS3 2008 - LBP, RFOM2, Motorstorm2, socom,

for 2009, ps3 kicking off like this - Kill zone 2, GOW3, Infamous, GT5, white knight chronicle, MAG, mortal kombat vs dc universe, naughty dog next game(project)

for 360 all I can see is - infinite undiscovery, left 4 dead, and maybe (rts halo)

so what I can see is PS3 have pretty impressive line up, btw there still more to come for sony to unveil its tile, but for 360 we have no clue which games they have to be able to match the ps3 next year

but if you saying multi platform games will sell the system, I think you're on crack, which is probably some good shet and I suggested you should share some :P

[wardende]

I have a few basic questions for you.

Number 1.

Can you listen to your own music on your PS3 whilst playing games?

number 2.

Can you speak to someone on your friends list (thru voice chat using your PS3) when you're playing unchartered and they're playing MGS4?

number 3.

Can you explain why the PS3 being so powerful and all, renders your overhyped game in MGS4 at 1080p?

number 4.

Can you explain why Sony removed backwards compatibility from the PS3?

Number 5.

CAn you explain why Sony made europe wait 4 months extra to get their hands on the PS3?

Number 6.

CAn you explain why Sony has no official headset?

Number 7.

Can you explain why Sony said that the rumble feature was a last gen feature, only to do a u-turn and shell out for it much later on?

Number 8.

CAn you explain why you would pay for a game that has only 6 tracks?!

Number 9.

Which game is better out of the Ninja Gaidens on the PS3 and 360? Disregarding graphics.

Number 10.

CAn you explain why I can download and watch tons of HD Movies on my 360 but cant on my PS3? Not even one?!

Number 11.

CAn you tell me why the 360's live arcade service is wicked, with tons of games and online play, most of which are done in HD. And the PS3 has a couple of crappy psone games available for download and that's it?

Number 12.

CAn you explain why you have to install a console game?

Number 13.

CAn you explain why it takes a few seconds to update the 360's firmware but over an hour to update the PS3's?

Number 14.

Can you explain why you'd want to play your games on a control pad that was designed in 1996?

Number 15.

Is the six axis controller a cheap gimick?

Number 16.

Given the PS3 controller has a built in lithium battery, when your battery no longer holds its charge will you be forced to sit 2 foot infront of your tele playing your games? Or simply have to shell out for another pad?

Number 17.

Why is their no online play on virtua tennis 3 on PS3 but there is on 360?

Number 18.

Why exactly would you want a PS3 for gaming purposes?

Finally - here is a picture of my PS3 right before I cleaned it, I thought if I wrote 360 on the top of it in dust then maybe I'd use it more, but alas I still only turn it on when I rent a bluray DVD.

That's my lot.

[smurfie4]

number 1

Why yes I can. Its called having a mp3 player to play your music. Microsoft has a patent on the way that in-game music is implemented so Sony has to work around it. Its either that or face patent infringement.

number 2

No, but why would I? If they are in the middle of a game why the h3ll would they want to be distracted? I dont even like the phone ringing when Im in a game. Its very annoying. Im fine with checking my message box to see whats on my friends mind.

number 3

Ok. With a resolution that high its very taxing on the system. Any developer will tell you this. With normal maps, bump maps, hdr lighting, volumetric explosions, and advanced particle effects asking for a resolution that high is very demanding. So as a developer they choose the 720 option that leads to more onscreen action, more shaders, and more efficient performance. But theres an exception. Gran Turismo 5 and Wardevil will be titles that WILL! run in native 1080p.

number 4
Yes I can. They removed bc to cut down on production costs so that they could lower the retail cost on the ps3. You can still pick up the 80g mgs4 bundle that has software emulation. That one can play most ps2 and ps1 games. Its not 100% b.c. but is pretty close.

number 5
Europe are almost always the last on the receiving end, this is nothing new. The kicker is that a few of those who waited were awarded with a bravia tv and a taxi ride home.

number 6
Because there's this place called the internet where you can buy a bluetooth headset. Its not really that expensive to buy one off amazon. You can also get one with a purchase of Socom Confrontation and Warhawk.

number 7
Sony is not perfect every company makes mistakes. I think they redeemed themselves by putting rumble back in the controller.

number 8
Because its an appetizer of things to come. GT5 will be the biggest racing game ever. Why not get a little snippet of whats promising to be an epic game? With that said, Polyphony is planning dlc for the future.

number 9
Thats a difficult one. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is 87% on gamerankings while Ninja Gaiden 2 is 83%.

number 10
Well it may be because your high on caine. Are you serious? The video store on psn allows for movie rentals, buys, hd movies, in addition to sd content.

number 11
Seems like a fanboy rant to me sir. I can tell you that I get ps1 classics in addition to full games like Calling all Cars, Pixel Junk, Super Stardust HD, Flower, Warhawk, and Siren Blood Curse. Let me know when you get a game on live thats 9gigs.

number 12
The only downside of the blue-ray disc is that it reads slow. Installs speed up the load times. Its a lot better than changing discs.

number 13
Theres a numerous number of explanations to that. One could be that a lot of people are trying to update at the same time causing slow speed. Another would be that your connection is slow or bad. There isnt one single explanation to sum that up.

number 14
Because its a working design. A lot of people are confortable with the way the playstation control feels. Why not take a winning formula and toss a little something something to improve it?

number 15
The same reason the wii is a cheap gimmick.

number 16
Seeing as that will take a great length of time to happen it isnt a problem. I would rather do that than to keep shelling money out to buy replaceable batteries for a 360 controller.

number 17
Thats up to the developers to decide. It has nothing to do with Sony.

number 18
Because the it has a better disc format, strong 1st party support, better reliability and more powerful hardware.

And thats my two cents.