4 Games That Flopped Super Hard in 2015

2015 was a great year for games, but unfortunately some didn't quite live up to expectations. Here are 4 games that flopped in 2015.

[sammarshall102]

Out of these games The Order 1886 had the most potential, if they would have made the gameplay more diverse/interesting, gave the player more freedom and made it longer it would've been something great

[skcej]

I'm still hoping for a sequel because I think they've got something with the story. They just need to do a serious gameplay overhaul lol

[Orejillz]

I couldn't agree more.

[FasterThanFTL1]

And make it at least 3-4 times bigger.

[dirkdady]

hmm.. isnt there some other game that miserably failed to meet sales expectation?

[Eidolon]

Can't wait for the sequel. I Gamefly'd the first, but it was an awesome rent, though I'd be pretty disastisfied if I paid $60 for it.

[UltraNova]

I'm hopping for a sequel as well.

OT: So what metric did they use to decide the top losers of 2015? Sales?

Reviews? But it cant be reviews since Evolve scored abnormally high for what it was...

Based on VGCharts(yes I know but unless someone has a better source lets stick to what we have) The Order sold 1.27 million copies, not that many for a AAA game, admittedly. But I'd say that's pretty good for a new IP that got so much hate from everyone.

Rise of the Tomb Raider sold 0.5mil on both xb1 and 360, both! Ok its only been 3 weeks but we are talking about Tomb Raider here, a tried and tested 20+ year franchise with dozens of million spent on its marketing for the better part of the year and still failed to move units as excepted.
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

Does that ^^ make Tomb Raider a flop as well?

1.27 million gamers played the Order, just like I did, but if they are anything like me they'd think the that yes the game lacked in key areas but in the end it was ok for what it was and that they would support a sequel because its evident that the potential is there in spades, and that says a lot as to why this game should not be considered as a flop, because no one wants a sequel out of one.

[ninsigma]

Not an overhaul. The tps mechanics were spot on one of the best implementations of it this gen. Length can be improved as well as the bosses and lycan fights. I have no problem with the long cutscenes though.

[xPaYDaYx]

I disagree, I'm definitely in the minority when I say this but I think The Order 1886 was one of the best games of the year lol. It's such a underrated game, granted I bought it for 7$ not 60 like a lot of people. I feel that's why people were so harsh when it came to judging. I feel it definitely deserves a sequel.

[WelkinCole]

So basically you guys want another gears or Uncharted but with vampires and wares in steampunk london?.

And here I thought people are sick of getting the same thing and want a different experience.

[NewMonday]

the Order outsold all XBox1 exclusives this year with only Halo 5 barely ahead, if that is a flop then so is Forza 6 and Tomb Raider.

[Picnic]

I'm pleased to see the level of agrees. Truthfully, I've never played the game but sometimes attention to a concept and to visuals makes a game have some importance even if it is inspired some ways by other games and even if the gameplay is lacking.

[Kingdomcome247]

@NewMonday-Halo 5 barely ahead? Lol. What would that have to do with quality anyhow? I liked The Order, but I just felt compelled to respond to your usual, "contribution."

[freshslicepizza]

@NewMonday
"the Order outsold all XBox1 exclusives this year with only Halo 5 barely ahead, if that is a flop then so is Forza 6 and Tomb Raider."

here we go again, instant defense mechanism in place. the article goes after a ps4 exclusive and his answer is to ALWAYS attack the competition.

from the aticle,
"None of these games are downright abominations that don’t deserve to be played (except maybe for one), but instead just didn’t quite hit the mark that was set for them by fans, critics, and developer ambitions."

this isn't about sales, so can you not just enjoy your ps4 without having to resort to the system wars ALL THE TIME?

[kreate]

I dont mind newmonday's comment. Its actually informative for me as i didnt know tomb raider did that poorly.

Just a different perspective for the situation on hand.

[Crimzon]

I think Evolve had the most potential out of all these games because it was the only one trying to do something that was genuinely new, and the idea of the video game equivalent of the movie Predator is excellent.

I only played the beta on PC but I remember the game being really fun, and I kinda regret not buying it and launch and enjoying it for two or three months while the community was active because it was a fun game, but the greedy DLC practices pretty much killed it. I wish that people were happy to boycott exclusives games that do the same thing as well.

[XisThatKid]

Throw in some 4p co-op I'm all the way in

[rainslacker]

Gameplay itself was solid as a rock, and what it did, it did well, if not better than some other notable games in the genre.

What it needed was more variety to the tactics used, less time saying how bad something is but instead actually playing against those bad things, more variety in the enemies, and a much better boss battle thing....or even just a single boss battle would be nice. Lycan fights seemed unfinished upon release.

[XanderZane]

@dirkdady
Don't think they are talking about sales. They are talking about how good the game played and was rated by critics. In this case, the list is just about right. Tony Hawk was complete garbage.

@NewMonday
It's not about SALES. lol!! There are games that sold well under 1 million copies and have won awards. These games flopped because they weren't very good.

[coolbeans]

And actually made a decent story (at the least).

[garrettbobbyferguson]

I dunno, your short review doesn't sound too favorable to the story.

[coolbeans]

@garrettbobby

I actually think it's fundamentally broken and unengaging. My intention was adding on to sammarshall102's list of stuff necessary that would've made 1886 something great, as he put it.

"if they would have made the gameplay more diverse/interesting, gave the player more freedom and made it longer..." then insert my extra thoughts.

[Mr_Writer85]

Whilst not amazing I thought The Order was alright, however I only paid £10 for it which felt like a good price.

Had I paid £40-£50 launch price for it I would of been massively disappointed, sometimes how much you pay for a game and help you see past its flaws.

It could of been a lot better, but I did enjoy it, other than length my main criticism is the sections when you just walk, super boring. The gameplay wasn't that bad, and the guns where funky and I enjoyed trying different ones out.

I would take a huge hit on the graphics if it meant a slightly more open game, even if it was more like TLOU, not full blown open world but you don't have one set way.

Like the garden level, there is only really one path you can go, where as if they still had that area but you could still complete your objective without having to kill the guards in a certain order and at a certain point I would enjoy it more, oh and again less QTE.

[Abracadabra]

Tearaway Unfolded flopped on the PS4, and previously on the Vita.

[PhucSeeker]

Nah, we didn't hear about its sales number is all. I'm sure it did great on Ps4 as it's not a big budget AAA game that got more money for marketing plan than making the game itself.

[bf000777966]

so ROTR sold worse than The Order 1886 why not consider it a flop with its stupid exclusive deal?

[Abracadabra]

Every 3rd party exclusive deal is stupid. 3rd party studios that make exclusive deals with Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo, deserve to have games that flop. Why limit yourself to one market when there are so many markets out there to make money.

[donwel]

@Abracadabra
Because developers may enjoy working with one system or company more than the others. They may have more experience working with the PS4 than the Xbox One or vice versa and feel they can make a better game on that system. Hell there are developers who release some of their games exclusively for Vita, I highly doubt those are as part of an exclusivity deal.

[spicelicka]

lol maybe because it wasn't a flop?

It's one of the best action games this year, and critically stood up to Fallout 4 after being released the same day.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

^This is the opposite of flop. I really have no idea what you're talking about, nowhere in the article does it mention sales.

[rdgneoz3]

@donwel Enjoying one system or company more than another is different than taking a game that was multiplat and sold / looked better on one system, and the making the sequel a 1 year exclusive for the game that performed worse (sales and performance).

[Crimzon]

We've no way of knowing if Rise of the Tomb Raider was a flop or not until we see how well the game has performed after it's launched on PC & PS4. Trying to call it now is a little pointless since it could be hugely successful when all is said and done. Some games fall flat on their faces at launch and that's it for them, but given how the ROTTR releases are staggered, it could end up having a long tail and being hugely profitable.

I'll definitely be checking the game out when it hits PC since the last one was a great game and general consensus seems to be that the new one is even better.

[neoandrew]

I would say the keyword here is "had" sadly...

[Multiplatguy]

A lot of people are not willing to give first chances, nevermind second chances which is a shame. The Order has crazy potential to be just about anything it wants to become.

They would have all the ground work and feedback to turn The Order:1887 into something truly amazing.

[showtimefolks]

I recently picked up the order 1886 for 15 and it was well worth the price. At full price I really do understand why people complained

But if we are not looking at the price than the order 1886 is a very good game. also it sold over a million copies

Spoiler alert

The way story ended don't really need to make a sequel. Maybe give it to ND or sicker punch

Mad max was a hard flip for me along with just cause 3. Avalanche studios Now have a history of releasing games that over promised aND under delivered imo

[rainslacker]

Sequel isn't absolutely required, as the game story itself was pretty self-contained, but there were a lot of things opened up with the story which were never resolved, which were there either because they ran out of time to put it in, or were going for a sequel. Plus the ending scene pretty much shows they intended to make it into a series.

[hankmoody]

The Order had many, many apologists claiming it was an incredible experience. Many of them right here on N4G!

[u4one]

I certainly remember that. Some still defend it.

[ShottyGibs]

Did it ever. Sadly deep down they all knew the g̶a̶m̶e̶ glorified demo sucked balls. N4G is a breeding ground for alot of blind loyalty.

[gangsta_red]

Exactly, and if you left any sort of opinion that wasn't gracious or forgiving of The Order you get accused of never playing it.

The apologists are still here, look at how they all question The Order's "flopped" status but no other game on that list.

[Ark_]

True. Same goes for Dragon Age Inquisition ...

[Crimzon]

I'm still confused that a certain website that was running a heavy PR campaign for the game on this site was insisting that the criminally short length of the game was somehow a speedrun. I remember seeing the video in question and the person was just playing through normally (not rushing, let alone coming anywhere close to what's considered a speedrun) and yet we had people losing their minds over it and insisting it was some kind of conspiracy and that everyone who reviewed the game was speedrunning?

Logic just flies right out the window for some people when they're defending their precious exclusives, it's sad to see.

[cheameup]

hey ,that bit where you had to walk the long way around the round table was awesome

so was that bit where you walked down that hallway

It was a hour game I couldnt even be btoehred finsihing

worst game of the year I bought

[rainslacker]

@gangsta

and if you left any opinion of it that it didn't suck completely, you were called an apologist or fan boy.

I gave what I considered fair assessment of it. I liked it, but saw it's faults, and people still wanted to tell me I was wrong...so much so that they would even say it and not just hit the disagree button like with most of these kinds of things where you're taking a middle of the road approach.

[u4one]

Agreed. I didn't hate the order but I definitely didn't love it either. The gameplay itself often times felt like an afterthought after a bunch of cutscenes. I'm still hopeful they'll take feedback from the first one and make a much better sequel.

[Orionsangel]

The Order is the Ralph Bakshi, Animated Lord of the Rings of Video Games. It literally feels like they ran out of money and abruptly ended the game. So many things were left unresolved. It easily needed 5 more hours. It should have been a 10 hour game at the least.

[Christopher]

I would say The Order was a huge disappointment, but I don't think you can say it flopped based on sales.

[jznrpg]

I enjoyed it , shooters that are too long I lose interest in so it was decent length to me , maybe just a little longer would have been good. For a new I.P I thought it was pretty good . I will take a look at a sequel if they decide to make one.

[jerethdagryphon]

Order didnt flop falling just short of targets and its intended audience doesnt mean its a flop gameplay while basic was solid its a shooter thats it mp wasnt needed and it didnt need any rpg esque elements

[jakmckratos]

Glad to see so many other people found something good from The Order. THey have to streamline the story, add a little more diversity to the enemies(VAMPIRES!), make the characters a little more personable and add co-op.Would love some horde mode! The weapons were a lot of fun , the graphics are insane and story really does have a lot of meat that it would be fun to delve into.

[kaizokuspy]

There's a lot of good in that game. Hopefully they expand on it for length and replay ability in the sequel. I love the setting and characters.

[Muzikguy]

I'm glad Need for Speed and Tony Hawk are on that list. NFS is going in the wrong direction and they definitely need a wake up call. No matter what these companies think, always online is NOT the answer. They think by doing that people will buy more of their games, yet people are being smart and not buying them at all! I didn't play Tony Hawk but with a "review" like that I won't even bother. All the power of today's consoles and we got that...... 👎🏻

[the_mack_attack3]

Agree completely, was such a let down after the hype it had.

[Realms]

Tomb Raider should definitely be on this list sales wise it flopped.

[rainslacker]

It really felt like one of those games where the publisher just said, "It's been long enough, you have X amount of time to get what you have done and get it released." So many things just looked like they weren't implemented, and a few things seemed like they were supposed to be more than they were.

I'll give R@D props for not releasing a broken game though. What was there worked without problems, and the game play seemed like it was well polished..except for the lack of it, and not being terribly compelling due to the repetitiveness of the scenarios offered.

[PerfidiousSinn]

I wonder if Tony Hawk sold well. People got pretty excited that the series was coming back.

[Orejillz]

I think everyone knew it was gonna be bad when the first previews were shown. Also that whole sudden change of graphics right before it came out was a huge warning sign.

[DixieNormus]

As was robomoto developing it. Hard to believe Activision kept them after the skateboard controllers the last ones they made.

[u4one]

the first time i saw it, i literally thought it was some weird pre-alpha leak or something. when I realized thats what it was going to look like, i was completely surprised.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Doubt it. It didn't look very promising from the start.

[Relientk77]

Good, I'm glad Evolve flopped. They are never getting my money for that DLC fest

[kaizokuspy]

Also their new 1.07 patch buffed the monsters by a lot and nerfed the hunters. The game is unplayable unless everyone on your team has a degree in dark souls game theory.

[jerethdagryphon]

Polishes all souls plats. You mean you dont have a dks game theory degree

[kaizokuspy]

You're a god among men sir. I have a mighty need for souls plats, but not the mettle to see them through.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Pretty sad about Need for Speed. It was shaping up to be a true successor to the Underground series.

[Retroman]

@ Txidark

Nah, that rebirth hardly qualify as a Underground series . more like a sequel to criterion mostwanted.
we all know how that crapfest turned out

Ghost games problem i fine they to much like criterion games "need for burnout speed" format still pleaguing them. drifting, to many corners shape like U's also ghost games has a habit of mixing and combining previous nfs titles into one game which is a bad thing, rebooting a dying series . i would perfer built from scratch 2 player offline/online service , hub selection of cars as Hotpursuit 2 have, hub selection of tracks to choose as Hotpursuit 2 have. not this crapfest anyone able jump in your personal race.

[Austin48]

Why ain't starwars battlefront in this it was a flop

[Swiggins]

It was a big commercial success....

[Ark_]

Not yet decided.

[EverydayJoe]

It's Star Wars, it will never meet expectations when something is on that level.

Also, who's expectations are we talking about? I'm sure the casual gamers will enjoy it very much.

I still think it's a very fun, easy to pick up and play game. What it lacks in content it makes up for in fun. Fighter Squadron is one of my favorites.

[Italiano1234567]

How can u not have tomb raider on that list. That flopped super hard... good game but flopped bad

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

Because official numbers haven't been released?

[cyril sneer]

Tomb raider is not on the list probably because it has only been out for 3 weeks or so and it has not released on all platforms yet.

[Youngindy21]

Why do Gamers act as if a game can only sell during its release week? Rise of the Tomb Raider just released in November and plenty of people are probably going to get it for Christmas. I'm one of those people who got 100% completion on the first Tomb Raider game and I just haven't had the opportunity to pick up the newest entry yet. Plus a lot of people don't want to pay 60 bucks for a game they can get for 40 if they just wait a few weeks. Wait a few months before calling ROTR a flop.

[DonkeyDoner]

yet the order sold more that tomb raider

[FasterThanFTL1]

PC and PS4 versions of it will sell like hotcakes on a cold day.

[GTgamer]

I doubt it allot will forget about it or buy it used

[Swiggins]

Which is a shame because the Order was hand's down, the most disappointing game of 2015 for me, and easily takes a spot on my top 5 worst.

The game offered nothing unique other than it's setting, it's gameplay was ripped straight from other more successful third person shooters and it's ludicrously short campaign offered little to no replay value and had easily one of the worst endings I've ever seen.

[Doodleburger]

Tomb raider is a good game though. The order is a generic interactive movie.

[FasterThanFTL1]

Star Wars: Battlefront was suppose to sell 13 million copies. I don't think it has even sold 1.3 million as of yet.

As for Need For Speed. They can still save it by removing the online only restriction. And PC version is still to come so the game could see a huge boost in sales and hype when it does so.

[_-EDMIX-_]

....it did on the very first day. It became the fastest selling Star Wars game.

http://www.playstationlifes...

[FasterThanFTL1]

Where does it says it sold 1.3 million copies?

[_-EDMIX-_]

http://www.videogamer.com/p...

"Battlefront did have the biggest ever launch for a title based on the Star Wars franchise, however, selling 117% more copies during its launch week than previous best-seller Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.

It also sold more units during its launch week than previous 2015 record-holders Batman: Arkham Knight and The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt"

117% more then Force Unleashed is beyond what Witcher 3 and Batman Arkham Knight did....

http://www.gamenguide.com/a...

http://www.vgchartz.com/art...

Soooo its even beyond 2 million bud, likely near 3 or so in its first week and its still on the charts.

http://www.amazon.com/best-...

http://www.ign.com/articles...

Soooooooo yea.

Its already confirmed to have done 117% better then that.....

Mind you...that is already above 1.3 million as Force Unleashed did 1.5 million in its first week....Battlefront did more then 2x better, thus selling better in 1 seek then Witcher 3 and Batman Arkham Knight.

look it up bud, I don't even see the use in arguing over factual numbers, I get you could not like a game, thats fine.....why argue facts?

I read news often, thus this was known information to me, besides that it did better then Batman Arkham Knight in its first week, I found out that tonight lolz.

[benji101]

Edmix all your sources and none of them have any solid evidence about battlefront all of the trusted sources are about the force unleashed. It sold more in one country, the UK, not the world! The Witcher 3 will have run rings around it considering the legs on PC sales.

[ApolloTheBoss]

Missing Rise of the Tomb Raider. It flopped something fierce unfortunately.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I wouldn't even call Tony Hawk a flop; Activision certainly didn't invest much money into making the game.

[trywizardo]

most disappointing (not fail) IMO is mad max , the game had a huge potential and end up just a normal mediocre game

[boing1]

Well, I loved it. Not a master piece obviously but really solid title. But each to their own, I guess.

[Skankinruby]

The order was a flop? It sold well over a million even with the backlash ratings it got. I'm playing through it now and will boldly say I like it, a lot actually.

[BitbyDeath]

Don't think they're talking sales wise otherwise Tomb Raider and Halo would be on the list.

[KilKarazy]

The order a flop? Idk about that.

[Rookie_Monster]

Biggest flop is the Orders 1886. Disappointing game.

[SpaceRanger]

Sales wise, it sold better than some "holiday exclusives" this year. But let's just ignore those flops right?

Gameplay wise, if you were expecting to find a hidden multiplayer section or have some milked sequal storyline when they clearly stated what type of game it was (cinematic story). Then yes I can see why it would be disappointing to you and others. Other than that, it did well as the game it said it was.

[LP-Eleven]

Glad someone else appreciated The Order (assuming, of course, you actually played it, unlike some above us who chose, from even BEFORE Day 1, to hate on this game knowing they had no intention of picking it up). That said, the article's sentiments are about quality/expectation, but even with that, The Order exceeded mine.

What DID fail to live up to my expectations was Everybody's Gone To The Rapture. Incredibly boring game with visuals that did not impress me nearly as much as I expected (considering the engine it ran on).

[ziggurcat]

@rookie:

... a game you never even played... and no surprise you'd consider a sony exclusive the "biggest flop." how can a game be disappointing/the biggest flop to you when you have literally no experience playing it?

[MSBAUSTX]

Your statement is direct proof that all of my previous comments in this discussion are %100 accurate. A disappointing game can still be successful. A successful game is not a "flop" people bash COD games all the time. Was Ghosts a disappointment. In my opinion it definitely was. But it sold millions of copies. That doesn't make it a flop by any intelligent interpretation of that word. So this article and its title are dumb.

[ShottyGibs]

39 fanboys in denial and counting, just bubbled you down.. and probably me too..

Yeah.. The Order making this list is salt in the wound.

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

You know what flop means right?
For example, rise of the tomb raider.

[ShottyGibs]

Yeah that was a flop too. What's your point? Ohh I see, I hurt your feelings.

[gangsta_red]

@Rookie

Only sales matter Rookie. Justin Beiber, Iggy Azalea and Michael Bay are the best artists ever in the history of planet Earth because their sales are higher than everyone's else.

I wonder if you would have said Need For Speed was the biggest flop, would you have gotten multiple people accusing you of never playing the game?

[2pacalypsenow]

The order sold over 1 million copies, how is that a flop?

[Rookie_Monster]

DiD you even read the article?

Here is the guidelines of what they considered flops in this article: "Before we go into our list, we think it’s important for us to outline exactly what we’re qualifying as a flop here. The following games are ones which definitely did not meet their sales targets, were reviewed poorly, or just really didn’t meet expectations of fans. Others perhaps started strongly but failed to stay in the limelight for long enough, becoming more of an afterthought of “did that really release this year?”

The orders sales can be subjective as who knows what Sony's sales expectations was but there is no doubt the reviews are terrible, probably tied with RYSE as the 2 lowest scoring big budget AAA games of this gen so far, and most PS fans reaction towards it is poor. So there you go.

[RedDevils]

The one who actually played the game doesn't think it was bad, in fact many think it was great, but no the majority that doesn't even brought or play it already jump on the hating bandwagon from day 1. So at the end of the day this is just another opinion base article

[2pacalypsenow]

The following games are ones which ***definitely did not meet their sales targets,*** were reviewed poorly, or just really didn’t meet expectations of fans

So how is Rise of the Tomb raider not on that list?? Seems like you people are nitpicking and using whatever category that's convinient, if something sells well it means that people bought it and liked it enough to get that many copies sold, If not then you must think Jurassic world is a flop since it didn't do so well with reviews ..

[ziggurcat]

"... The orders sales can be subjective as who knows what Sony's sales expectations was but there is no doubt the reviews are terrible..."

how can sales be subjective, exactly? and nope:

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

30 positive vs. 11 negative critic reviews, and 489 positive vs 158 negative user reviews says you're wrong about the reviews being terrible. you can't just take the handful of clickbait reviews that gave the game 2-4/10 scores as the voice of all other reviews published about this game. you're also wrong about it being tied with Ryse:

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

[Inzo]

The Order 1886 is a flop critically yes but commercially it has done very well so far. And on one platform.

[str8duval]

Why on earth would anyone even care about the games commercial success

[Inzo]

You are joking, right?

[Ferrethat22]

Tomb Raider is by FAR this biggest most catastrophic flop of the year. Considering the marketing push and budget consideration it's impossible to not consider Tomb Raider a flop.

Also when you take into account how SE thought Tomb Raider 2013 sales were disappointing(it sold much better than RoTR) and u look how much this new game is selling it makes things even worse.

Critically a success

Commercially a complete Disaster

Also Forza 6 had extremely soft sales. It's even outsold by Driveclub lol

[Multifacetedgamer]

Probabky because Drive club was in the bargain bin within a week of release

[2pacalypsenow]

Tomb raider is already 39.99

[Multifacetedgamer]

2pacalypsenow Drive club as $15 here in Australia within the month. Problem was the online was broken to start and that ruined it

Secondly it's not a competition I couldn't care what tomb raider costs. Let's face it the game is excellent and there's some seriouslyrics salty characters around. Also pays to acknowledge that it's Christmas shopping time. Almost all new release games are on sale during this period...you salties read far toough into the business side of gaming

[2pacalypsenow]

Then why bring up the price of Driveclub?

[jerethdagryphon]

Maybe but its still getting mew content updates and is one of the best games ive played this year

[Multifacetedgamer]

@2pacalypsenow seems you are mildly retarded. So little guy I'll point out the post I responded to brought up Drive club. I didn't throw the first stone. But I'll bet your just salty because u mentioned a ps4 exclusive that as far as I'm concerned was a good game marred by poor online for a period of time

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I agree with the first 3 games but The Order is GOTY material to me.

[CPTN MITCHELL]

Need for speed is a good game and the new update that came out today makes the game better, please stop complaining about the city being a ghost town because people don't do ilegal drag racing in the middle of the day

[sullynathan]

Well it looks like some people don't know what a flop is

[GamingIVfun]

The Order 1886 was a fairly decent game with a couple flaws like chapters with no game play, annoying stealth mechanic, but the length of the game was fine, 8 to 10 hr's if you weren't doing a speed run of the game, and the story was pretty good even with the cliff hanger ending that I am sure was to be answered in the games sequel. The game play over all was good to. The graphics are amazing and everything is in engine no pre-rendered cut scenes, also ran smooth as silk with almost no bugs out the gate, not something many games are known for these days.

The games has sold pretty well, if the game was the SHot pile that some people say it would not have sold well at all, even at bargain bin prices. I would give the game a 7.5 out of 10.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I NEVER will understand how The Order gets brutally trashed for its "lack" of gameplay when it offered more than Until Dawn but yet Until Dawn gets massively praised? Makes no damn sense to me. Only thing that gives Until Dawn a edge is the butterfly effect stuff... THAT IS IT. Other than that it IS a walking simulator... At least The Order gave us more control over PHYSICAL gameplay than anything Until Dawn did. People love stories in these "games" if you want to call a walking simulator a "game" slap in the face to REAL games with PHYSICAL gameplay. Sure these 2 games have marvelous graphics... But to see people praise several other point click/QTE games but then destroy The Order... Just blows my mind!

[coolbeans]

A critical thing when making that comparison is to delineate what those two games within COMPLETELY different genres are trying to accomplish, or what's expected of them. Until Dawn is playing by the narrative-heavy adventure playbook of TellTale games but with a bigger budget. Don't like those types of games? Fine, UD isn't for you.

But The Order: 1886 is a third-person shooter with a focus on 'cinematic' gameplay and storytelling. That description can go all the way back to say...Uncharted 2 (or perhaps 1) for instance and you can already see the night and day difference in the quality of each title's gameplay. 1886 is nothing but static level design, same-y enemies, and artificial railroading. The game arbitrarily decides when you can/can't do standard tps actions: when to roll (designated to X button), when to do a little trot during walking sections, and even get behind cover (taken away when holding that lamp).

Not to mention Until Dawn's narrative is actually enjoyable whereas 1886's is just grating to sit through. I found The Order to be one of the clearest examples of corporate art after that ending too. Several key threads left unresolved in order to say "wait for the sequel."

[2pacalypsenow]

Because The Order was heavily marketed and hyped, Until dawn was a sleeper hit with very little marketing. I dont regret buying the CE, I enjoyed it.

[JangoMan]

Those of you who played the order must agree that it has a brilliant single player experience that we used have in old days before the Multiplayer Revolution took place. Excellent graphics, superb sound effects, authentic to setting music, Mature and likeable protaginist to some extent great gunplay. Putting my 7.1 surround headphones on and playing the game in night took me back to old days - That experience made it one of must have games of this generation. Just brilliant SP game.

[rainslacker]

Exactly. It was a great game for what was there. Problem was, despite the game play being solid as a rock(lycan fights excluded), it was rather short, and that was all people needed to jump on the game as the worst thing ever. All the good stuff the game had was mostly ignored by the haters so they could bash this game into the ground. I really don't get it because there are games much more deserving of such harsh criticism, yet never have I seen the kind of hate thrown at a single game before, particularly one that was a solid experience overall. The only logical explanation I can come up with is fan boys, and it sucks that we can't even be positive or neutral about the game, and discuss it rationally without others jumping in to say how we're wrong, or that it just sucked completely.

[darx]

The Order...lol! Its not even a game.

[MegaRay]

The headline should be:

"3 games and 1 movie flopped hard in 2015"

/s

[2pacalypsenow]

Pretty sad that a "Non game" did better commercially than 2 Full games that just recently released.

[WelkinCole]

The order only flopped in the eyes of those that didn't play it and troll or play it but expected a Uncharted or Gears type game when clearly RAD said it was something different.

So for those of us that are not stupid and can actually read the articles about the order and the direction RAD was taking it the game is what what was advertise.

As a primarily sp gamer that wanted something different the order is just what I needed so no it is not a flop for me. Quite far from it.

[stonecold3]

i loved the order 1886 people who hate on it should at least give it a go before making judgements

[_LarZen_]

The people that hate on it is probably the same people that hate Indie games and just play AAA games. And thinks games has to be X or it can't be called a game.

In other words uneducated narrow minded people that has no clue what gaming is in 2015.

[ShottyGibs]

Why would they even be the same people? Is it amateur psychology hour?

I played the Order and own dozens of indie titles. I still hated it... so why does this make you mad? Just accept many people thought this game was lame.

[coolbeans]

"The people that hate on it is probably the same people that hate Indie games and just play AAA games. And thinks games has to be X or it can't be called a game."

I actually get annoyed by those sorts of people in your 2nd sentence, love certain indie games (going to play through Everybody's Gone To The Rapture soon), and still find The Order to be one of the worst AAA titles to come out this year. Do you really have to paint anyone with a much different opinion than your own as some dudebro troglodyte?

[rainslacker]

@cool

he's obviously speaking in generalities, and it would be annoying to have to qualify every statement when talking about such things.

It's pretty easy to see who's played it and didn't like it vs. those who didn't play it and hate on it unconditionally and unreasonably.

It had it's flaws, but the second that 5-hour play through came out, the floodgates opened for people criticizing the game because they took everything at face value, and in the end, most people that liked it start ignoring everyone who disliked it because there were so many people hating on it that didn't play it...and I'd wager probably didn't even bother to watch the whole 5 hour play through.

[coolbeans]

@rain

My very point takes aim back at those kinds of generalities when a lot of people--on this very comment section above him--already display a completely different kind of attitude than what Larzen's describing. It's an intellectually lazy way of disregarding those who have a much harsher opinion on a thing than you do.

You may bring up past reactions about the 5 hr. playthrough or whatever else in the past, but let's not pretend that a whole other large group of people were largely disappointed/hated it and have made their reasoning well-known.

[Eidolon]

I don't understand the hate, it was a great game.

[_LarZen_]

I wouldn't say 1.3 million sold copies of The Order 1886 is anything near a flop. That said it's clear the game needs improvement. Hope that is something they handle with what is hopefully a sequel.

[Grell566]

The Order 1886 was the badest game i played for years.

[Eidolon]

What was so bad about it, besides being short?

[gangsta_red]

Horrible story, vanilla gameplay, terrible AI, only two boss battles...that were the same, bad stealth gameplay.

It was very shi++y game riding on the hype of it's graphics.

[patsrule316]

I got The Order for $20 back in April, and I thought it was perfectly fine. I wouldn't remotely call it GOTY, nor would I call it one of the worst games of the year. I gave it a solid B, and enjoyed it for what it was. I was in a very similar stance last year with Ryse. I paid $20 for it a few months after release, enjoyed it for what it was and gave it a B. (I have both systems and am not a fan boy for either)

For a variety of reasons, I am glad to see Evolve on the list as I have a big disdain for that game. If others enjoy it, more power to them, but that is a very rare instance of a game I specifically wanted to fail, and I know I have a bias against it.

I would expect both Guitar hero and Rock Band to be in the list of flops, even though I bought and enjoyed guitar hero. Even though I like it, I just don't see either game having a big market.

Lastly, I probably would have bought Need for Speed if I didn't have EA Access. I got to play 10 hours for free, and I am sure I will get the whole game for free in 3-4 months.

[Jag-T1000]

You got it for $20. That's why it didn't suck so bad. You're wallet didn't hurt. Imagine if you had payed $60.

[NotAFanboyyy]

Apparently people can't read the premise with which this list is based on.

"2015 was a great year for games, but unfortunately some didn't quite live up to expectations. Here are 4 games that flopped in 2015."

It's about expectations, not sales. But yes, continue to bash Tomb Raider. Carry on.

[Parasyte]

The Order and Evolve had a ton of potential. It's really sad that they weren't more successful than they are.

For some reason, I knew deep down in my pancreas that Tony Hawk was gonna flop.

[Wallstreet37]

These articles are so biased lol Sunset Overdrive may have been a good game but it flopped hard only selling like 800,000 yet its not on this list and sold less than The Order lol smh. I guess their fans of the game so they pick and choose what flops mean to them without a clear metric.

[coolbeans]

"4 Games That Flopped Super Hard in 2015"

Sunset Overdrive released in 2014.

[Wallstreet37]

Thanks for correcting me cool beans, it seemed so recent. If thats the case insert Tomb Raider lol same rational.

[coolbeans]

From description: "2015 was a great year for games, but unfortunately some didn't quite live up to expectations."

Sales aside, the game did meet quality expectations by critics and most fans, which is the rationale the person gives in source.

[Wallstreet37]

Hes cherry picking and moving goal posts now. Tastes are subjective. Just because it meets quality expectations doesnt mean it gets a pass if it flopped financially thats bs. In that case lets move the goal posts for all the other games and find a positive attribute to hold on to and then say it didnt flop. The order has several positive things it did right we can then hold onto and say it didnt flop. The Order in itself sold more than Tomb Raider so we can say it didnt flop and flip the whole argument. When a person hears flop they automatically think financial failure so him excluding TR is dumb as hell.

[coolbeans]

Except that's not at all what cherry-picking or moving goalposts means. The writer didn't change the argument half-way through, but stuck to a standard at the beginning. Since something can flop financially, critically, or both, it's best to be specific about what you mean at the beginning, which is what the author does.

"When a person hears flop they automatically think financial failure so him excluding TR is dumb as hell."

It can go either way. Good thing the author specified the meaning in the description, right?

[iNFAMOUZ1]

halo 5 should be first on that list

[dreadz74]

Halo sold fine and is still charting but haters gunna hate .

[dreadz74]

Tony Hawk was an epic fail what a broken mess it was.

[Jag-T1000]

You could give away evolve and nobody would pick it up. Actually I would pick one up, throw away the CD and keep the empty case as spares. My nephews don't take care of my game cases. They are always on the floor.

[skratchy]

What about Tomb Raider?

[YodaCracker]

GOTY contenders don't typically make this kind of list.

[DoubleM70]

Must be a Ponie if grading the game on Sales. Sometimes the game is just not good. Evolve was just not good Need for Speed felt crumy to me. The Order was short as hell and wasn't worth the buy. Even if the Graphics looked hot. The game play was miserable I didn't like it.

[Orionsangel]

When will Tony Hawk take a hint? It's time to put personal relationships aside and find a new developer for the Tony Hawk games.

[batbatz]

you could add the new tomb raider, its a shame, it will probably bounce back when its on a console someone owns

[Kuma]

Yeah, the Order was a disappointing 7/10. Especially after all the hype. would still recommend it just for the sweet flowing graphics.

[alfcrippinjr]

the order is amazing game everyone should play it if they have not
it better then star wars and it offline play too

did not get a good review as people said it was like watching a movie

[mochachino]

The biggest flop had to be Tony Hawk, it was one of the biggest games of PS2 gen and honestly, I bet 7/10 gamers didn't even know it released this year.

[Garethvk]

Ask 2K and Sony how much their supposed flops netted them.

[SynestheticRoar]

List was okay until it's last pick.