PlayStation Experience - A Technical Mess

Why PlayStation Experience was technical mess for Sony both on stage in terms of presentation and off stage in how PS4 and PSN function.

[sammarshall102]

This show left a bad impression on many. Hopefully Sony's E3 is good

[LordMaim]

A lot of people also thought this show was really good, but they tend not to make opinion articles. Slamming something is always better for clicks.

[dirkdady]

Technical mess? Lol ... That's a new one. What next?

I love the posts that leads with troll comment.
Hey sammarshall, I heard Microsoft shot their full load going as far as showing concept CGI videos of games like Recore at E3 that were no near ready and have nothing in the pipes until 2017. Kinda like what they did with phantom dust before quietly scrapping the game. This really seemed to have left a bad impression on many.

See what I did there?

[sammarshall102]

Recore is a 2016 release along with Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Gears of War 4, and Sea of Thieves

Phantom Dust wasn't confirmed to be a 2016 game and Phantom Dust isn't even scrapped, Phil Spencer confirmed on Twitter yesterday that it is still in development

[dirkdady]

Lol clearly you missed my point.

[Wallstreet37]

Bad impression on what many? The click bait writers trying desperately to find news worthy stories or the fanboys on the opposition trying to fuel their sick weird crusade because their system of choice just isnt cutting it?

Seriously there are threads of ppl that actually attended that loved it. People that tried VR are overly positive about games like Rigs and other VR games even saying they've had better experiences then when they tried Oculus. We got Ni Nu Kuni 2 which was a godsend for many and although it probably wont be exclusive it doesn't matter we still got info on a great game. Street Fighter 5 info, House Marque game was on the floor and was well received, MLB 16 and other games.

Imo It was better than the competitions showcase offerings and i cant wait for 2016......

People before this show was planned already stated that VR was tough to show to the masses without experiencing it and sadly Sony didnt seem to pull it off in the presentation but they definitely pulled it off when ppl got hands on with all the VR games that ppl have been positively previewing and gushing about.

[VsAssassin]

Ni No Kuni 2 is exclusive. It was stated before the trailer rolled.

[Wallstreet37]

Vassassin...

I hear what your saying but i remember them stating it as a "console debut" and that does not mean exclusive.

I may be wrong, if so thank you for shedding light on that situation.

Just looked it up and they wording the used, i was right. That wording can mean alot of things including that it is only a timed exclusive....

http://www.playstationlifes...

[SRN_Games]

I think you miss the point of the article a bit. The idea is that if Sony wants to be a leading platform, they need to step up their game and how they present material. None of this 'bashing' Sony and instead designed to start a conversation on how they can better PS4 and the experience around it.

[Wallstreet37]

SRN....

I understand exactly what the article is referencing and as other showcases have shown the big three all have room for improvement in terms of presentation. They all have had good presentations and straight awful.

The focus on much of ppls criticism with Sony's presentation was on the VR aspect which fits into my narrative and what i was conveying. I think last psx was great, Sonys E3 was awesome and this presentation was good imo. What they floundered on was the VR presentation but that was "expected" because prior to this presentation almost everyone spoke about how it is very hard to nearly impossible to really convey VR awesomeness to masses as they have to really try it. Sony didn't convey their VR message the way they wanted to, not due to lack of preparation but just because it is a hard thing to convey and anyone would have had problems.

[SRN_Games]

VR is most certainly hard to show off. But in this case, it wasn't that they had difficulty showing off the tech, but that something clearly failed in the demo. Be it the Move controller, the game etc. Which is ok. Tech fails, it's a simple fact. But that they didn't have a backup to go to is my problem with it. For me, none of my issues were with the content of PSX. That's a completely different article and very subjective depending on a persons taste. However, how something is conveyed to an audience is something Sony can/should do a much better job at.

[rainslacker]

I liked the games shown because the games shown were more the kind of things I like. I like the AAA, but they get enough attention. while games I mostly like may just get one game at the show if we're lucky.

That being said, the show itself was rather dull just in how it was paced. What was shown was fine for the most part, with the typical one or two games I really wish they'd move on from(happens every conference usually involving COD or MW), and a VR demo which I feel failed to actually show what they wanted to show from an perspective of experience.

The technical glitches are too common nowadays to even write about though, as they happen at every conference, but I'd prefer a technical glitch to a recording of a game.

I guess I'm just not the kind of person who goes around complaining if a show doesn't show much that interests me, so long as what they show is games, or mostly game related.

[OB1Biker]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

[Wallstreet37]

Yeah i seen that on Gaf they seemed to have a blast plus all the other positive VR previews weve had the last year. Rigs seems to be the system seller by the way and seems like GG did an awesome job with it.

[Realms]

How dare Sony announce more games and updates on exciting upcoming releases. Terrible news all-around more games that appeal to different demographics it's a travesty. Sony must be stopped from their world wide plans of domination.LOL

[2pacalypsenow]

My only complaint was the VR demo lines were really long

[SRN_Games]

Yea, the piece is really more about PlayStation infrastructure and presentation skills and less about what they really showed off at PSX.

[Jalva]

All that conference did was convince me that VR is just another gimmick like motion controls.

[himdeel]

I disagree. It truly illustrated the impossible task of demonstrating VR (an individual experience) to the masses on a conference stage. Watching people in VR is awkward.

[Rimeskeem]

The crowd was actually really enjoying the VR demo on stage like the one where the guys controllers wouldnt work. At least from my point of view people were laughing and enjoying it.

[Jalva]

Just because they were laughing doesn't mean they were enjoying it.

[DigitalRaptor]

Yep. Agreed here.

Nothing wrong with the content... AT ALL. It was no different to PSX last year in terms of games focus, and people had nowhere near the complaints last year.

The flow definitely needed work. The on-stage VR demo was awkward as heck. The show ended abruptly with a third-party MOBA (which does look fantastic), but I was expecting more of a showstopper demo/trailer. The flow could have been better and if FF7 Remake or Ni No Kuni II at the end would have been better.

[Rimeskeem]

yah, Sony has never been the best at fluidity in their conferences. This one was particularly bad, nothing was wrong with the content, just the way it was presented.

[DerekFlint007]

I wholeheartedly agree, the content was fine as you say, and the way the conference was presented was unfortunately botched in my opinion.

Sony, if recall had another dreadfully presented show not that long ago, it may have been in Japan approximately a year or so back and rather than show the games onscreen, the director kept constantly cutting away to non-descript audience reaction shots.

This conference was Sony's chance to showcase their wares to a huge Christmas buying public worldwide and i don't buy into the excuses made after the show that we should have tempered our expectations and that it was primarily an indie focused affair, they tell us this after the fact.

I don't necessarily feel that they needed to show us new content, but rather as they have a year to prepare for this show, concentrate and focus on better editing, presentation, running order/time and be more selective in showing off the games in a more positive light, in order to garner excitement. If there is any possibility for technical glitches and errors then ditch it and cut it from the run time and perhaps replace it with a vt clip.

It's genuinely surprising that given Sony's background in Film and TV that they can't bring in a better production crew to enhance the production and presentation values.

[Elda]

Technical mess or not,Sony still showed some great exclusives/games for anyone that owns Playstaion.

[Jalva]

None of which were new.

@MasterCornholio

Ni No Kuni isn't an exclusive, and I never said there was anything wrong with showing already announced games, just as long as they balance it out with some new announcements, also nobody cares about indies, just gonna be blunt this time.

[MasterCornholio]

Right so Ni No Kuni 2 wasnt new.

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And whats wrong with showing already announced stuff at a conference?

If Microsoft and Nintendo are allowed to do it then Sony should as well.

Also now that i think about it plenty of new games were announced at that conference. Now they might not have been giant AAA games based off established franchises but they were still new games.

Like 100Ft Robot Golf for example. Now thats something that i really want to play.

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@Jalva

"and I never said there was anything wrong with showing already announced games"

But then you said this "None of which were new." which is basically you criticizing Sonys conference for not announcing new games at it when they actually did.

"Ni No Kuni isn't an exclusive"

And when were the other platforms confirmned?

Who cares if its exclusive or not thats one more game that PS4 owners get to play.

"also nobody cares about indies, just gonna be blunt this time."

And im going to be blunt this time with you. People do care about Indies. Because if they didn't The Witcher 3 wouldn't have won GOTY. Also ORI won some prizes as well. Not to mention tons of people had fun with Rocket League.

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

Yeah cause indies and psvr games dont count, right?

[Jalva]

@UserNameIsNotTaken

As far as 99% of gamers are concerned, no... they don't.

People paid $400 for a PS4 to play big budget AAA games and exclusives, not these pseudo-artistic hipster college projects.

[IIFloodyII]

Ni No Kuni 2 might go to NX at some point, but until then it's a PS4 exclusive. It probably won't go to PC or Xbox, none of Level 5's 50+ games have.

[Elda]

xXx=WRONG!

[guyman]

No one cares about indies? so no one cares about no man's sky? Journey? rocket league? ori and the blind forest? Rime? WIld? the 100's of popular indie games available through steam? etc, etc.

Just because Ni no Kuni is making a console debut, doesnt mean it's going to platforms outside of the ps3/vita/ps4 and why should it? no other platform received the first game. But hey, you trolls will stubbornly keep trolling away, it's like talking to a brick wall.

[rainslacker]

New for you must mean the first day of pre-production. That would be a concept document in the following format

Title (working title)

-insert game concept template here-

Hardly compelling trailer material.

Also, 99% of statistics are made up, and the other 1% is just bullsh*t.

@Guyman

Gears of War(except the new one), Sunset Overdrive, Ratchet & Clank(except some developed by Sony), Titanfall, and many more are also all indie games.:)

[PixelGateUk]

why do people keep talking about E3 and PSX like it's the same thing? it's stupid.

[Fro_xoxo]

Was it really that bad? I didn't watch it..

[MasterCornholio]

No it wasn´t. No idea why people are comparing it to that horrible conference by Konami, Microsofts Xbox One Unveiling and their Kinect focused conferences or even the Wii Us unveiling. Even that messy PS3 conference (the one with the giant crabs) was alot worse than this.

It wasn't anywhere near as bad as those.

There were some good announcements but in my opinion the pacing could have been much better.

[sammarshall102]

Even diehard Sony fans have said it was bad

[rainslacker]

It had lulls. Wasn't bad, but the content shown wasn't all blockbuster. But if you're into variety, it certainly had that.

[DEEBO]

Seen new VR games,team ninja game,king of fighters,street fighter5,JRPG's,japan mafia game and some cool Indies

Yeah it was a total mess/s

Other then the vr demo the show was good.

[MasterCornholio]

They could have replaced the VR demo with a demo of an actual VR game.

Imagine if they demoed 100ft Giant Robot Golf?

It could have started off as a friendly game of golf between two robots and ended up as a massive battle between the two where they level half the city.

That would have been a great and hilarious way to demo VR.

[KingKionic]

It was a disaster.

After Uncharted 4 and FF7 everything went off a cliff.

It ended abruptly with no drop the mic moment.

No one should be attempting to damage control PSX this year.

The dude who runs playstation even trolled people with a crash bandicoot t-shirt.

Everyone should be expressing disdain for this show to sony so next year can be better.

You dont want a repeat of this year.

[TwoForce]

I will say this again. It was just like last year. There are some flow need to be addressed in the future. But it not that bad actually. And also, this is not Sony E3 2.0 for god sake. I think we gamer have become way too much with hype and ridiculous expections. More importantly, if you think they did poorly, then give them a feedback. Don't sit here and just saying " Sony will do bad next year ". We gamer should give them a feedback what we like and what we don't like. After their PSX keynote, people was having fun with PSX in the end. They got to play playable demo of every games, VR games on stage and live podcast for each developers to have a chat. Remember Sony E3 2014, it was pretty bad actually by bunch of TV in middle of the show. I liked Sony E3 2015 better because they improved last year. Can you stand up and give them a feedback ?

[KingKionic]

What they should do is lower the indie consumption of the show. Have more meaningful updates to titles for third party.

There was a section of the show with that exec Ms Shelby who just reiterated what we already knew about battlefront dlc and cod world league.

Vr stuff they showed just was like school project stuff. Even from Santa minica.

It boggles my mind how that's a launch lineup for vr.

Stuff like that needs to be changed.

Also you don't ever end a show with a moba title.

That's just crazy.

[TwoForce]

Indies game was their plan after all. Sony will support indie developers same as AAA developers. The difference is that Sony support these AAA developers by giving them more time to finish the game. Sony Santa Monica is very big studio. In the past, they were only A GOW developer, but in recent years they become so big that they handle a lot of stuff like marketing, publishing other small developers and they are hiring more employees. Sony Santa Monica become the biggest publisher in Sony work. They are still developer. Same goes with Sony Japan, they are also publishers and developers.

[Flashback001]

That was the worst conference I've ever seen... Did they even prepare for this show? It was really bad...

[paulogy]

There are folks (like myself) who watched the keynote online and other PSX reveals as they unfolded over the weekend, and plenty more that just read the summaries on Monday morning. I wonder if these two groups have different impressions of the event?

[WellyUK]

Wasn't a mess but it was a disappointment for me as I have 0 interest in JRPG's or beat em Up's so the show was seriously lacking. Uncharted looks awesome but it has ever since it was announced. Paragon looks alright but if you wanna play a MOBA you may as well play Dota or LoL... Kind of expected something more form Epic as they've been quiet for a while.

[Lonnie18]

I thought the show was technically good.

[Skankinruby]

I'm learning what to expect from this event now. Having attended both last year and this one I'm seeing their zero drive in major announcements as there's no competition to one-up. The ff7 and uncharted footage was about the only thing that stood out. The whole thing would have been great if it weren't for the stupid online reservation crap for the vr demos. Last year we could just get a ticket there and come back later but this year every spot for the whole weekend was reserved before the event even started, it was nonsense.