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GTA: San Andreas PS2 vs PS4 Graphics Comparison

PS4 finally gets official emulation possibility of PS2 games.
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas is among one of the first games which we have posibility to play on PlayStation 4.
Check this graphics comparison showing how much better the games looks like running on much more powersful hardware.

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MikleDemi3089d ago

Gotbto give Sony props where its due. Looks pretty darn good considering the APU they are working with.

Still with proper plug ins, even a mid range gaming laptop running PCSX2 looks better. Still, a mid range gaming laptop costs about $150 more than the PS4 does right now.

Good job Sony. Not bad, not bad at all.

Useless for me, but good for those that are interested in purchasing their PS2 games yet again.

Sciurus_vulgaris3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

Is this an actual PS2 port or is it the HD remaster of the game ported to PS4...

MikleDemi3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

It's a PS2 ISO running on an emulator that is designed to work on the PS4.
Something PC gamers have had access to for a long, long time.
Glad it finally hit the PS4 with such impressive results considering the hardware they are working with.

AlphaKennyOne3088d ago

@MikleDemi
What about this is impressive? The hardware they're working with is 2 generations ahead. Nothing about this is impressive. Everything looks slightly smoother but anyone with PCSX2 can run this at x2 native resolution and it would probably look a little better than the PS4 version (or at least as good). The PS4 could probably run the game at x4 native resolution. Look at GTA V and look at this game and tell me how the PS4 being able to run a marginally smoother San Andreas is impressive.

tethered3089d ago

Dont forget about the people that never had a chance to play them before. It isnt always aout people that have already payed and played it.

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djplonker3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

Awesome will the same laptop be able to run uncharted 4 and bloodborne too?

Oh wait...

MikleDemi3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

Bloodborne, most likely.
Uncharted? Maybe, who knows. A few PS exclusives are already coming to PC - Helldivers, Yakuza, and Rapture.

The PC as a gaming platform dwarfs all 3 consoles combined.
From Software said that the 2 Souls games sold MORE on the PC than all consoles combined.

Moreover, the PS4 is an AMD APU, and as such the console should be much easier to emulate than the PS3, which has already been emulated.

Null3089d ago

@Mikle
"Yakuza, and Rapture. are coming to PC"

Source?
Is it this?
http://n4g.com/news/1832318...

That article is clickbait and has Zero sources for the information they're trying pass off as fact.

"Moreover, the PS4 is an AMD APU, and as such the console should be much easier to emulate than the PS3"

You don't know how emulation works. lmao

"PS3, which has already been emulated"

Source? Working program?
Or do you mean that thing that's taken years to work and it can Barely run that old PS2 port, silent hill 3, at 9fps and no sound with top of the line hardware on DX12?

How does someone like you have more than 3 bubbles?

MikleDemi3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

@Null.

Source: http://rpcs3.net/ PS3 emulator for PC. Works just fine on my rig. Here is a video for your stupid ass that can't even use Google.
https://m.youtube.com/watch... This is one of PS3's most demanding games running on a mid range PC.

I know nothing about how emulation works? Lol OK. If you insist you pathetic worm. Apparently you don't understand simple X86 architecture. Stay in school kid.

As for proof, PS4 exclusive Helldivers (published by Sony) was leaked the same way and is now on Steam. Boo hoo fanboy shit.

Welcome to ignore you worthless troll. Tell your mom, who you live with, that I said Hi. And thanks for attacking someone that uses actual proof for their argument you stain of a fanboy.

Please learn to Google before typing.

ShadowKnight3088d ago

I don't think Bloodborne will never release on the PC because Sony still owns the IP just like Demon Souls.

dirkdady3088d ago

I highly doubt Yakuza will release on PC. Sega has never released any of the Yakuza on the PC, nor do they have a history of releasing a lot of games for the PC.

Utalkin2me3088d ago

@MikleDemi

I think your about as lost as last years Easter egg.

ocelot073088d ago

@MikleDemi

It is really not hard to believe. Considering the Souls games have been on sale for extremely cheap. I got both Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 for less than £3 on PC.

However you need to factor in the pre owned market on consoles.

reallyNow3088d ago

Anyone thinking a laptop that costs 150 more than a ps4 can play any decent modern games @ 1080p is smoking something expensive.

LordMaim3088d ago

@MikleDemi: The video you posted showing God of War III emulated is completely fake. The only working emulator struggles to run even the most basic PS3 games, and the site for the emulator that the video links to requires you to complete a survey before getting the download. The legitimate site for the RPCS3 emulator is quite a bit more open about it's compatibility, and has videos with gameplay more like the following:

https://youtu.be/6kZljYb0Ty...
https://youtu.be/Mk7zGMQQMr...
https://youtu.be/nvgyhRtAol...

The most generous interpretation of your statements is that you have been misinformed. Your insults were premature.

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BigBoss18103089d ago

You're just like the person in your picture

JasonKCK3089d ago

Sorry MikleDemi my lapotop could easily run this and it cost half that of a PS4.

dirkdady3088d ago

Sure whatever you say Jason.
Why dont we play along - can you give us the laptop model/spec of this mystical $200 machine?
I can tell you with ease at what fps it can run modern games. Pls do tell.

JasonKCK3088d ago

It's an HP Pavilion G7 AMD A6 105ghz laptop running Win 10 and 8 gigs of memory.

$189 from Amazon, the extra RAM came from my old laptop.

So... there goes that theory. Sorry it didn't work out for you. I use it to play SWTOR on high settings using HDMI on my TV.

Before calling someone out make sure you have all the cards.

KingIceSonic3088d ago

8 gigs of memory? My first Nintendo DS had more memory then that

JasonKCK3088d ago

KingIceSonic your DS had the same amount of RAM as a PS4 and X1?

Can you pass me what you're smoking?

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Captain_TomAN943089d ago

LOL this isn't a surprise at all. The components in the $300 PS4 equate to a $500 desktop.

Oh but I forgot - all of the fake PC "Master Race" think that an APU = garbage (Even if it is 3x stronger than any APU you can buy on PC).

RealTrueGamer3089d ago

Exactly. You would need a $400 desktop or $500 laptop to match what you can get for $250 in the PS4. And with the PS4 you also get a free game or two. PC/Laptop can't do that.

Dasteru3088d ago

The PS4 uses a downclocked AMD Jaguar APU. It was designed for low-mid range laptops. Full PC APUs, even entry level ones, are far more powerful.

http://www.tomshardware.com...

"AMD's "Jaguar" is the successor to "Bobcat" which powers current C- and E-Series low-power APUs."

It was the most powerful APU at the time of the PS4s release, but it isn't even close now.

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Captain_TomAN943088d ago (Edited 3088d ago )

@Dasteru

Cool story bro. Here is a Jaguar CPU playing BF3 64-Player MP:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The PS4 has DOUBLE the cores of that even though they are clocked 20% lower.

Next let's move on to the GPU - a 7870 with a lower core clock and 10% less SP's; yet faster VRAM and double the GPGPU command queues.

No other APU comes close buddy. Get your facts straight!

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someOnecalled3089d ago

It looks like the gtasa that I play on my tablet. U know the port or mobile years ago. And yes my tablet have a 1080p screen.

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Bigpappy3089d ago

Is looks almost the same. Only difference is the image now covers the full screen due to up scaling. No a bad job, but the PS2 version looks better lit and a bit sharper.

MicrosoftMackin3088d ago

Lol u say sharper???? Lighting ok, but sharper? Get your eyes checked....seriously. No joke go see your optometrist right away

LoneRichter3088d ago

@Bigpappy
PCSX2 disables several of San Andreas' post-processing effects, because it can't emulate them correctly (fyi, it does this for hundreds of the games it supports). That's why the title looks brighter/sharper, because it doesn't have the effects for heat-waves and camera over-exposure.

Of course it's debatable whether that's an improvement to the game or interfering with the "way the devs intended."

Null3089d ago

@Mikle
(This is a response to Mikle's comment seen here: http://n4g.com/comments/red...
That video is F.A.K.E.
You actually don't know anything and proceed to just insult. LOL.

Here is ridge racer:7 running on a GTX 980 at 8 fps
(posted today)
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Here is 13 year old JET SET RADIO running on a GTX 980 at 15fps.
(Posted on November 10, 2015)
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Here is your fake video:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
(posted on March 22, 2015)

here is the fake site:
http://ps3emulator.fr

"Please learn to Google before typing.. Tell your mom, who you live with, that I said Hi. And thanks for attacking someone that uses actual proof for their argument you stain of a fanboy."

ironic

C'mon, you arm chair Dev, please tell me that happened to rcps3 in the past few months?

"I know nothing about how emulation works? Lol OK. If you insist you pathetic worm. Apparently you don't understand simple X86 architecture. Stay in school kid."

You failed to elaborate on what you know(which is nothing).

"As for proof, PS4 exclusive Helldivers (published by Sony) was leaked the same way and is now on Steam. Boo hoo fanboy shit."

Sony doesn't own HellDivers, but they do publish it and Is publishing it on Steam through the mobile. They never said it was PS4 only exclusive, but a console exclusive.

"Welcome to ignore you worthless troll"
You're telling me this because?
Anyway, we both know this isn't true because you have no life, have spent nearly 17(practically the whole day) hours today on N4g trolling, insulting and gloating about a repetitive game that only a thousand or so people bought on the Playstation store. "I am adult" LOL

RealTrueGamer3089d ago

If you go to the emulators web page, they say most games run better than on the PS3.

My argument is that it's illegal to emulate thoabstufd, and it actually carries weight, unlike your nonsense bashing of this user. Using YouTube I found 50+ vidoes to prove/disprove your argument. I actually downloaded the emulator myself and ran LBP at 50+ fps, with pretty amazing settings.

Still, it is incredibly illegal to download and play ISO's.

Griever3088d ago (Edited 3088d ago )

@RealTrueGamer

Nowhere on the website it says that. In fact it says that the emulator only runs simple applications.

http://rpcs3.net/about/

There are no working actual PS3 games. Here is a 3 game long list of working commercial games. Mikel is just lying spreading BS.

http://www.emunewz.net/foru...

Do people realize how much powerful PC you need to run an emulator compared to the actual console? I cant run Persona 4 at 720p and solid 30fps on my core i5 2nd gen even though I can run RE5 at 720p and more than 30fps on it. Can you see the difference?

Phunkydiabetic13088d ago

The fake ass button mashing shouldve been enough for people to know it is fake.

alvgamin4lif3088d ago

Lol! This Mikle guy is living in his own little world. I've seen him claiming to play god of war, last of us, demon souls on pc at higher settings...

Like I said before, I'd rather buy a console, used if required, rather than pirating and playing games on an emulator.

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Griever3088d ago (Edited 3088d ago )

Stop spreading your BS Mikle. It looks like you are the one who needs to search on google or you are just outright lying just to troll. THERE IS NO WORKING PS3 EMULATOR! That GoWIII video is fake. There are no comments, verifications or emulator settings. It is stated on the RPCS3 page that it is capable of running only simple applications. Only THREE actual games work on it including Sonic CD, Retro City Rampage and Metal Slug 3 which are not even PS3 games. So please stop lying and insulting people.

Father__Merrin3088d ago

i have a ps2 but no san andreas?

do i track down a copy of san andreas or buy a digi copy upscaled etc?

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Lightning Mr Bubbles3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

It does look a little better on PS4. I didn't expect that, I thought they would just be straight transfers. So that's actually a plus I guess.

Not sure if there's anything I would want to try again from PS2. I'll probably do Vice City, just driving around with some of that music is always epic. I'm sure I'll think of some others just to get the feeling of nostalgia and maybe there was something interesting I never tried.

If they ever release Manhunt 2, I never tried that, I actually liked the first one, which I know a lot of people didn't. Actually, just last week I was thinking of buying Castlevania: Lament of Innocence and Cruse of Darkness from the PS3 store, actually, Curse of Darkness they didn't have.

RealTrueGamer3088d ago

It looks a lot better. They did a great job!

nevin13089d ago

How did they look on PS3?

KwietStorm_BLM3089d ago

Are you talking about PS2 Classics? Aren't they untouched?

TheUndertaker853089d ago

San Andreas isn't now. The new version they have on PS3 PSN is 720p and now has trophy support. Also if you have the PS2 Classic version you are not entitled to the 720p version, showing it is not entirely the base classic.

MCTJim3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

Really only slightly better and it may be due to the 16:9 vs 4:3 ratio?? Does this display the original aspect ratio on screen or it is enhanced for widescreen?

cyckiewicz3089d ago

PS4 version is 1080p widescreen.

MCTJim3089d ago

that explains the elongated head in this one then. Thanks for the heads up

CroKiller3089d ago

$15 for PS2 games are Grand Sony Theft.
#ThisIsForThePayers

spicelicka3089d ago

Basically, for $50 I could buy a PS2 with all the games I'll ever need to play from that era.

Abnor_Mal3089d ago (Edited 3089d ago )

Wow a PS2 and all the games id want to play for only $50? Where is this deal at? I would purchase a ticket, get on a plane and go to a different country to get such a deal. Thats such a fantastical unbelievable deal, why is this the first time im hearing of such a deal? /s

Edited: changed a question mark to a period.

iceman063089d ago

That would be a valid option. For others, it's more convenient to be able to purchase it and play on their newest console. It's about options. If you don't like the option, then don't choose it.

Debo 133089d ago

Good luck finding a copy of Dark Cloud for under $50.

spicelicka3089d ago

^i said all the games I WILL need to play from that era Lol, who said I want to play Dark Cloud?

_-EDMIX-_3088d ago

I mean...no one is really stopping you.

spicelicka3088d ago

Yep no one is stopping me from saying it how it is.

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_-EDMIX-_3088d ago

Because Sony owns Rockstar right?

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Here's another look at Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas with RTX Remix Path Tracing

A new set of screenshots were shared, showcasing the latest version of an RTX Remix Mod for GTA: San Andreas.

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Where are These Missing VR Games?

As is they're coins down a sofa, some announced games seem to just disappear. So just where are these missing VR games?

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anast78d ago

There wont be enough demand until the tech gets better and more affordable.

ApocalypseShadow78d ago

The article is more concerned with where the announced games are. Not about VR demand.

Even with my thoughts on Facebook, they did supposedly sell over 20 million headsets. Not that I think that many are still using their Quest headsets. But even if it's only 10 million users and 5 million are interested and able to play GTA SA, that's still a lot of consumers and a lot of sales.

It just comes down to why these developers are taking so long. Is something like GTA canceled? Is it being held back for a future event? It's not like there's competition in the stand alone space. And now that I have a Quest 3 myself, I'm wondering as well what's the hold up.

Profchaos78d ago

For GTA SA
Meta made a lot of budget cuts and cancelled a fair few exclusive game contracts we don't know if this was cancelled but it's possible and this was announced prior to the release of GTA definitive edition which was slammed and eventually moved to be supported in house by Rockstar.

Since then we have just gotten the mobile versions a d they are actually the best way to play the definitive edition unfortunately the consoles never got a retrospective patch to implement the improvements they made in the mobile games.

But for VR we know a VR mode was found in the definitive editions game files thanks to data miners so seeming it was meant to be using the definitive edition as a base given its ue4 that makes sense. And the mode is there right now (some Polish may be required still) I would assume this is ready to go but meta got cold feet and cancelled it given the games reputation.

I do hope Rockstar forge ahead and still just launch it anyway on psvr2 as it's a game I've loved since day 1 on PS2 I'll even tolerate the de version to get it in VR