Performance Analysis: Just Cause 3

Digital foundry :
What's clear is that neither version of Just Cause 3 is able to sustain a locked 30fps, but it is indeed the Xbox One release that offers a noticeably lower level of in-game fluidity. In our tests, we've compared both cut-scenes and gameplay, and our lowest recorded drop occurs on Xbox One, where a massive explosion sends us plummeting to 20fps, while PS4 plateaus to 24fps in entirely different circumstances - with CPU power the likely culprit for bottlenecked performance there.

In between shoot-outs, both editions mostly hold at 30fps, but once things kick off, it's clear that Microsoft's machine struggles to a more noticeable extent. It's a little disappointing that neither version of the game can stick to its target frame-rate - high tempo combat with lots of performance-sapping alpha transparencies cause issues on both machines - but it's clear that PlayStation 4 has the edge in sustaining target performance more consistently.

[NewMonday]

"What's particularly disappointing is that even in areas with little or nothing going on, Xbox One can still have issues - moving into a forest area and spinning around on the spot can cause the engine's performance to drop to the mid-20s, while PlayStation 4 retains the lion's share of its performance"

[Cindy-rella]

I saw a lot of people bragging and saying that this game performs better on the xbox one than the ps4. I havent any interest in this at all but was baffled by the thought of people bragging about a badly optimized game performance being better on a weaker system than the ps4.

Time and time again i see people still expecting the weaker xbox one hardware to outperform the ps4s when its factually the most powerful console ever made. Some fanat-X still play the waiting game over and over predicting that multiplatform titles will perform better on the xbox one but time and time again they are let down by the true results when they are reminded that the ps4 is a more powerful machine than the xbox one. Soon we'll be hearing about the cloud and dx12 will make xbox one outperform 4 gtx980ti

Every game performs better on the ps4 if its a multiplatform title on xbox one and ps4 because the ps4 is way more powerful than the xbox one. If there is a chance a game performance is better on the xbox one than the ps4 then it was poorly optimized and has nothing to do with hardware limitations of the ps4 hardware. Id only be interested in playing just cause 3 on pc in 4k resolution if i had a 4k tele

[uptownsoul]

Of the last several AAA multiplats...All of them have better frame rates on PS4 (AC:Syndicate, Black Ops 3, Fallout 4, Battlefront 3 & now Just Cause 3)...

And the people who were bragging about XB1 having better frame rates used the supposed "CPU Power" as their reason. Well I guess that myth is busted

[Bansai]

The game performs like crap on both platforms, the PS4 crap is just more shiny and "solid" [lol].

Unacceptable, I'm tired of these half-assed ports, not buying.

[DivineAssault]

Glad digital foundry does videos now so its crystal clear.. I agree that there is no point in xb fans to sit and wait for that "A HA!" moment.. I say they should just buy a PS4 because next year is going to drive them into insanity..

[kenwonobi]

@DivineAssault this is gonna especially true with all these next games in 2016 using the PS4 7th core. Let alone the vast exclusives lineup. It's like a complete reversal of what Xbox did this year. Only all that still didn't work for Xbox. Now Sony is quickly on its way to secret sauce article, exclusive huge year, and Virtual Reality.

[Haru]

yeah I remember all those cheap websites writing negative articles about just cause 3's perfomance on ps4 as beind worse than on xbone just to gain clicks, glad df is showing the middle finger to all of them now

[badz149]

The comparison shows nothing from the loading screen. Let me tell you this, while the better performing PS4 version is gladly welcomed, they should sort out the problem with long loading time on the PS4. I mention PS4 because I don't know how it goes on the xbone, not trying to be a fanboy or anything.

The loading times varied a lot depending on the scenario from ok(around 10 sec) to absolutely ridiculous(over 2+ minutes)!! These occur a lot when retrying challenges and outdoor challenges seem to suffer the most! Shooting range challenges load in seconds but I waited 3 or so minutes while the challenge using the boat loads! The tipsy loading screens played over and over, it was annoying! Playing via remote play is worst and really...I don't want to go there!

I hope they can rectify this issue quick because I'm starting to lose my interest playing due to these horrible load times!

[audiocafe]

"Soon we'll be hearing about the cloud and dx12 will make xbox one outperform 4 gtx980ti"

Actually I've already heard a fanboy claiming that the Xbox One with DX12 and the Cloud will outperform 4 Titan X's :/ I wish I were joking.

[DOMination-]

I think people were assuming because Mad Max supposedly performs very well on xb1

[candystop]

What does Xb1 and cloud have to do with this terrible performing game? What cloudtech on XB1 hopefully does will be incredible if it works of course. No need to shake your head about its potential.

Ot: this game is nothing to brag about either! I do want to see how Crackdown 3 destruction looks in action because if it doesn't dip with much much more going on then this game, it will be extremely impressive.

[UltraNova]

I'm seriously getting frustrated with Sony's and MS's decision to go with a tablet APU for this gen.

Disappointing doesn't even begin describing it.

What? I'm suppose to be happy because the ps4 hovers over 25fps and xb1 over 20?

God damn it I hope they fix this next time around. I'd be happy to pay 500-600 for a true 1080pk60fps at Ultra quality settings console! (for those who hope for 4k/60fps I sure hope you done holding your breath)

[Volkama]

@UltraNova while I share your opinion (and would pay over-the-top for a 4k60 machine lol), it's maybe worth ushering you over to the PC hardware section. Just Cause 3 is multiplatform :)

[UltraNova]

@Volkama

Hehe thanks for the 'pointer' my friend ;-)

As I made abundantly clear in my original post, my issue is with the console versions not the PC, where there's plenty of horsepower to exploit and patch till it gets better.

[cyph23]

pussy, go get some...

[ABizzel1]

This is one of those games that's simply best to get on PC, simply for the mod community.

[frostypants]

Well sure, if your PC can run it. But the minimum GPU spec is an HD 7870. That's pretty steep for a minimum (and who knows how it actually performs on that).

[ABizzel1]

@frostypants

So did the Witcher 3, but it can be played on plenty of GPUs much weaker than a 7870.

The purpose of the minimum specs are simply to give you a solid 1080p @ +40fps with high settings, for a great looking consistent experience.

That doesn't mean the game can't run, play, and look good with lower-end GPUs.

Of course there are graphics mods, but when you have things like:

*FPS mod,
*Crazy Civilian mod (all civilians act as another player),
*A black market mod that let's you buy / or freely get any weapon or vehicle or even soldiers in the game,
*God Mode when you just want to do crazy stuff,
*Spiderman mod (yes),
*Superman mod (yes fly and everything),
*And even a multiplayer mod.

It's just one of those games that even if your PC can only run it at low settings, it's better to get on PC. And as always you can get a GTX 750 Ti for about $100 now, and turn your generic PC into a fairly capable gaming running performance on par with XBO / PS4 in most games.

It's just one of those games that get significantly more value out of the PC modding community. If you have a desktop PC lying around, do yourself a favor and buy a 750 Ti and start playing games with big modding communities on them.

[81BX]

Yeah, this game seems to run not so great on either console. I like how some are applauding this performance to fit their childish agenda.

[Stringerbell]

Agreed. Barring the odd sports game lokks like all my multiplats will be PC. 30fps is unacceptable for me.

[kraenk12]

@frostypants

Isn't a 7870 about 4 years old or so?!

[ABizzel1]

@kraenk12

Just about, it'll be 4 years old March 2016. It's still a tier 6 GPU by today's standards (PS4 is tier 7, XBO is tier 8, right along with the 750 Ti).

But Tier 6 - 8 GPUs can frequently be found for around $100 throughout the year, so anyone who has / has had a gaming PC in the last 5 - 7 years should easily be able to pick up a GPU around that performance.

I think I'm going to make a 3 series PC blog to help people who know absolutely nothing about PC build turn a basic desktop they have in the home, into a fairly capable gaming PC.

Off to do some data gathering.

[MK24ever]

Considering PS4 is 1080P and Xbox 900P I wonder how much better would PS4 version be if pushing the 900P only.

[frostypants]

It would be nice if console devs would offer that option as a typical video setting. Not asking for PC-like customization, but at least let us choose whether to prioritize framerate or resolution.

[ProjectVulcan]

Pretty sure being a paid professional console game developer your job description includes you know, making sure the game runs properly on the platform it is developed for....Seems a lot of them these days apparently missed this point

[Pixelart]

If it's CPU bound it won't make a frames worth of difference.

[kenwonobi]

This is a valid conversation. I think PS4 users in particular should be given that option of gameplay vs resolution.

[Haru]

framareta shouldnt be issue anymore now that Sony unlocked PS4's 7'th cpu core, all future upcoming titile should run at a solid frmerate

[Rookie_Monster]

"Blowing up a bridge with C4 explosives causes a mid-20s dip on both machines as the structure crumbles into its component parts. Bearing in mind that not a huge amount is happening from a visual perspective otherwise, it does suggest that the Jaguar CPU architecture of both consoles is being pushed to its limit. "

:'( to see consoles struggle so mightily. Welll, PC version it is, as always.

[dantesparda]

That's the part you clinged on to? Yes both systems are weak, but it doesn't change the fact that the X1 version is still performaing far worst in terms of framerate than the Ps4 version. The Ps4 is not only better performing but also has a higher res. But nice try.

[TKCMuzzer]

Don't be so general in your comments, I bet you there are a higher number of PC's in the world that run this game worse than any of the console versions, or in fact can't run this game at all.

It's way to easy to throw 'PC's are better' generalisation around (no matter how you phrase it), when in fact, it takes a certain type of PC to run it better.

[Volkama]

@Bruce755 "most people" might not want to invest in good hardware, but this is a gaming site with a community full of gaming enthusiasts. Of course we're willing to drop some cash on the best gaming experiences!

....

....

Hmmm actually looking around, I think I took a wrong turn somewhere. Can someone kindly point me towards the gaming enthusiast crowd?

[bf000777966]

Is this something to do with the 7th core?

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

But what about the 15 minute loading times or did I miss that? The game is playable and Im getting it on X1 since that is what I have and will enjoy it. Im just worried about the 15 minute loading times claim...?

[TKCMuzzer]

Not once in the three days I have been playing the PS4 version has it taken 15 minutes to load a save. A minute the first time you load it up, then about 20 seconds after death and the worst is maybe 45 seconds after a challenge if you restart it and the start is some distance back across the map.

[freshslicepizza]

what's even more disappointing is we have pc cards like the gtx 950 that easily trump both consoles and it's not even a high powered gpu.

both sony and microsoft took a rather reserved position this generation in favor of trying to profit early and have affordable machines. sony lost a lot of money on the ps3 so it made sense for them but microsoft was too heavy with kinect and didn't put more into the gpu.

[Stringerbell]

Its the truth. These consoles should be struugling for these numbers 2-3 years from now. But their limitations are exposed too soon and its a shame. 1080 60fps, that ship sailed a long time ago. Personally I'd rater have 900p locked 30fps or unlocked as close to 60 as you can get. But Don't has made that 1080p a priority gameplay be damned.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Yep fps is crap on both systems!
Won't buy until they fix this sht!!!!

[vegasgamerdawg]

"Xbox One, where a massive explosion sends us plummeting to 20fps, while PS4 plateaus to 24fps in entirely different circumstances"

"It's a little disappointing that neither version of the game can stick to its target frame-rate - "

Both versions are crap, but fanBOYS hate the truth and would rather carry on and be corporate slaves. Enjoy your meaningless arguments for ignorant children.

[stiggs]

@NewMonday

It's surprising to see you posting comments in a Xbox One article.

[Dario_DC]

From what I've read, I was expecting the PS4 having more problems than it has, quite surprised. The Xbox One was already proven to run really bad by NXgamer.
Still some more optimization is needed for me to buy it.

[Why o why]

Hey, let people enjoy their moment in the sun.

I saw their responses to the rumours. . . . . I just sat back and read all of their conclusions. ... funny stuff

For many,these comparisons will act like repellent in contrast to last gen where they were quite attractive.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

I agree on the Optimizations, Im buying it tomorrow regardless but they should have a patch out soon and being that DF stated the problems were CPU extensive, X1 SHOULD have that cat in the bag over PS4's CPU at the end of the day if indeed Physics is what to blame. I get why the PS4 has a higher resolution as it's GPU is more powerful but the CPU side is a mystery to me...

[kenwonobi]

Developers can use the significantly more powerful PS4 GPU to do common cpu tasks

[dirkdady]

Cpu differences are a few hertz, negligible by any scale of measurement. It's the 50% gap in gpu that makes a diff.

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

Good luck for those who said "The xbox one has the best version" or "heard from mates"..

Please don't jump into conclusions without seeing actual proof.

[DragonDDark]

I know where the second quote came from... ;)

[Cupid_Viper_3]

The best part about this whole thing is how often it happens. Every time a one off game is rumored to run poorly on the PS4 vs the XBox1, those guys come out the wood work to boast and express how "shameful" it allegedly is for that to be the case. You would think that by now, even if it was in fact true that this ONE game works better on the XB1 that they would realize that it's insignificant since 98% of the other games run better on the PS4.

I mean, who in their right mind praises a broken clock for being right twice a day?

But to make things worse, I think this is the 3rd time this has happened in the past few months. And every single time, the thread gets super heated and guys come to gloat. First the Witcher 3, then Fallout 4, and now this game....

I guess they never learn....

[Nivalis]

Same xD

[YoungKingDoran]

Hahaha, me too.
Absolutely ridiculous.

[BeefCurtains]

Yeah, seriously. Is someone seriously expecting a multiplat game on X1 to be significantly better than Ps4? It just doesn't have the hardware to pull it off.

PS4 has the better GPU, end of comparison.

[Dario_DC]

Haha forgot about that one "quote" :)

[Captain_Wormy]

nearly spit out my soda when i read "heard from a mate" ;) ;)

[OB1Biker]

The thing is some people run with the rumors / analysis they like the most anyway and still months later claim whatever they want despite DF like they did for many games. Whatever ;)

[akurtz]

can we make that into a N4G meme? "heard from mates"!! im using it forever

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

I wish lol

[fallacious]

chrish1990 get in here you bloody tosh

[YinYangGaming]

Bought on PS4 and was close to switching to PC but runs better than I was expecting but hopefully in a few patches the game will be more stable

[ElementX]

Glad I preordered for PC. The only thing I play on consoles are exclusives and some MP.

[frostypants]

Makes sense it your PC is able to run it better. Note the "if".

[someOnecalled]

He try to play the if card alot. These PS fanboys is funny. If you build a rig for the purpose of gaming it wouldn't be an if. It's stupid. Playing at console level isn't even a challenge. Try saying if to last gen gamers. I want to play Halo but that's if I want to buy a new console.

A $100 gpu is still keeping up with these consoles and these console are not playing at max settings like y'all would want gamers that doesn't know any better. Just like when the order was under 1080p y'all move goal post to make ps4 seem godly. Stating that ps4 is the most powerful console ever is another dumb remark when new consoles comes out every half a decade plus it don't even play the best version.

Should we hear Xbox fanboys say this next gen, or hear y'all say it for the entire next gen if ps5 is stronger. Y'all are the worst. Both consoles struggling at on mid settings

[Stringerbell]

Lol pretty much. Ask yourself this, do you have a GPU that is not integrated and made in the last three to four years? If (note the if) you do than you'll see gameplay above 30fps.

[curtis92]

And they haven't even unlocked the 7th core yet.

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

IT'S NOT EVEN ITS FINAL FORM!

[MK24ever]

That made me chuckle, not even sure why Lol

[xTheMercenary_]

Next update we'll see the ps4 growing supersaiyan hair

[Xavior_Reigns]

Its too late to use the secret 7 1/2 core.

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

It's never too late... m8.

[Corpser]

Crap frame rate on both, PC version it is then

[frostypants]

Again, depends on your PC. As always.

[KiwiViper85]

Stop it.

[Pixelart]

Shouldn't be too hard. Conservatively, any 4 year old mid range gaming PC could run it at higher frame rates at 1080p.

[frostypants]

@KiwiViper85, stop pretending that max PC hardware specs for these games is representative of all PCs, or that all PCs can automatically run games better than their console counterparts. I'll stop calling out the obvious when people like you quit making it necessary.

i5-2500K - $100 (on a good day)
6GB RAM - $40 (and let's be honest, nobody would buy 6GB...you'd get 8GB...but whatever)
GTX 670/HD 7870 - hard to get these anymore, so let's be generous and say $140 for an equivalent
HDD - $50
Motherboard - $50 (for a piece of crap)
Case - $40 (for a piece of crap)
Power Supply - $40 (for a piece of crap)
Windows - $100 (for the crap Home version)

$560, and you still don't have peripherals or a display. And by PC standards it will be a paperweight that devs won't bother optimizing for in 18 months.

[Maxor]

He obviously has a gaminng PC that can out perform the console. Not a difficult task really.

[frostypants]

It has nothing to do with difficulty and everything to do with what you bought. The minimum PC specs for this game would result in a rig that is more expensive than either console.

Saying it's "not a difficult task" is nonsensical. Either you have a PC that can do it or you don't.

[Maxor]

Nobody gives a damn if the required PC parts exceed the console's retail price or not. The point is poster's PC can run this game and so it happens, so I can mine because I have a gaming PC not a $300 Facebook computer. The fact that the PC version of Just Cause 3 cost less than half of the console's is another great reason to prefer the PC version.

[harypotr]

I don't get these comparisons. It's like comparing which turd smells less.

[BlackTar187]

well if you're stuck in a small room and have to choose a turd i'd probably go for the one that smells the least worst.

[MasterCornholio]

That's basically the way it is.

[nonpracticingatheist]

These comparisons are helpful to some people. Not everyone have the means or the will to game on a pc. And to some ppl it is is important to know which turd smells less.

[MasterCornholio]

I was expecting worse on the PS4. Anyways it still choppy on both platforms though.

[aquamala]

you guys fight over 24fps vs 20fps, I'm getting the PC version :)

[Death]

Yeah, at least we know what "way better" is now...

[Jovanian]

This. The difference in frame rate you people are fanboying over is negligible. I consider 60fps to be the bare minimal standard that I'm willing to play, anything lower is reaching unplayable for me.

But the fact that people can play a game at sub-30 fps just blows my mind. This degrades the gameplay to an unplayable level. I guess you just gotta have low standards with consoles.

[memots]

1080p vs 900p is more what the subject line should be. But let's just ignored that

[ultralow]

shit game on both consoles and people jumping up and talkin about which is better....news flash it stinks on both or you can try to claim a win on some shiny shit..

[TKCMuzzer]

It's not a bad game, why would you suggest so? Just because there are frame rate issues does not make the game bad,in fact it's very good.

[Stringerbell]

Fps equals gameplay. If the game is sub par in its performance and below 30 fps whatever the game set out to do is being hampered in a huge way...

[Kiwi66]

Doesn't matter to me as i'm still going to play it like i do with any game but i guess thats the difference between myself who's been a gamer since 1977 and someone who has only been a gamer recently is that i don't care about resolution/fps as i play games for fun because i choose to

[DivineAssault]

Do you have both consoles? If so, wouldnt you want the best looking/performing version for your $60?

[Kiwi66]

What if i chose the console that my sons and friends have is that wrong as that was my choice ok this site is bloody pathetic as it seems like i can't spend MY money how i like even though i said why i chose the console that i did but i guess that isn't good enough for some people just because i didn't get the one they chose

[DivineAssault]

Well if you chose the "other" console then go for it and hand over the cash.. But if your a gamer since the late 70's, i'd imagine you have a mind of your own & can choose for yourself what you invest your money in.. Hell, you might be able to inform your friends if theres a better investment opportunity too!

[DLConspiracy]

Divine one person at a time you can make them see the light! There are many reasons why someone might choose one version over another. It doesn't ALWAYS have to be about how something performs. If it was then nobody would be playing on consoles.

[Psychotica]

Really? I have been a gamer almost as long as you but I can't stand it when a game lags, it ruins the experience. The resolution isn't as important to me but I still prefer the best it can be, kind of like watching a movie in HD or not.

[Spotie]

Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to make yourself seem above it all for no good reason.

Why bother commenting on a performance face off if it doesn't mean anything to you anyway?

And how can you generalize both people who are longtime gamers AND new gamers just to make yourself seem more into the hobby for the fun of it?

Your comment doesn't come off as genuine at all.

[Kiwi66]

So why is it nonsense because thats how am , you don't know me yet here you are saying that i shouldn't comment plus my comment isn't genuine why is that because you say so ? yet isn't this a public forum so i have the right to comment if i so wish unless you have an objection to that

[gangsta_red]

What would make his comment more genuine to you Spotie?

How can you claim Kiwi is generalizing then in the next sentence say he doesn't come off as genuine?

Is it possible that Kiwi doesn't care about which one performs better as he is just going to buy the game just on the fact that he loves this series for any console that he owns?

[vikingland1]

20 and 24 fps sounds like it needs more tweeking to me.

[Pixelart]

Let's not kid ourselves. It sounds like both consoles have another case of underpowered CPU. As if it's not obvious enough already the article also points to this.

[vikingland1]

Yeah that too, for the most part though it does run at 30 fps so that's good...I guess.

I'm sure it will be fun.

[DivineAssault]

Werent people touting the xb1 version ran better and ps4 only had a resolution advantage? They clearly said the ps4 version is superior in both visuals and performance.. Not interested in this game regardless but its always nice to see how game performance is with current gen machines..

[stonecold3]

i wont be buying got to many other games to keep up for 2016 but anyway wasnt there a article otherday about ps4 version ran into stable problem now where see this that xbox version runs worse wish these articles would stop comming out until the game is fully out

[LoveSpuds]

All I know is that for the last 3 days I have been having the time of my life on PS4, utterly hilarious, OTT, action packed fun.

There have been maybe 3 times where things have slowed down but it was still perfectly playable, what a brilliant game!!!

[GortJester]

Nice to hear. Thanks!

[MultiConsoleGamer]

I'm definitely getting the PC version. I'm not even going to bother with the console versions now.

This is just another example for me that PC was the way to go this generation.

[Why o why]

Honest question. . What pad or joystick do you use. . . I understand m&k's for fps's but what do you use for other genres

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Well I have to admit that I'm actually new to PC gaming, hence my screen name. I stayed away from it for a long time because I don't enjoy mouse / keyboard.

For now I'm using a 360 controller on most games. I'll switch over to the Xbox One controller at some point. I'm sort of well known for my dislike for the analog stick layout on "dual shock style" controllers.

[IIFloodyII]

I use a controller (DS4 mostly) for everything, but FPS MP games (which I rarely play), and strategy games, I just suck at moving with a keyboard.

[Stringerbell]

DS4 is the way to go though that new Elite Xbox controller is mighty tempting.

[caperjim]

I have this game for PC and i'll be using the Xbox one gamepad for it. I use gamepads for 1st person shooters too. Use what you want. That's the beauty of PC gaming...more choice.

[someOnecalled]

That doesn't even make sense. Wouldnt that mean both pc n consoles was the way to go. You already brought the consoles.

[Stringerbell]

Well I'm sure OP went into his purchase not knowing that the PS4 would hit the wall performance wise in less than two years...

[JamesBroski]

If you already bought the PC version, I hope you have better performances than me. I can't even play it in 800x600 everything set to low. It still drops to 4fps.

First Batman, then Black Ops 3 and now Just Cause 3. Fucking ridiculous.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

This is just trolling. Two of the games you mentioned were patched, and the performance you noted for JC3 is impossible unless your rig is ancient.

[JamesBroski]

@MultiConsoleGamer

Freaking tired of comments like this one. Unoptimized games and shitty ports exist.

FX-8350 4Ghz
R9 270X 2gb
8gb 1600mhz
Windows 7 64bits

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Two videos showing Black Ops 3 running on my rig. Tell me that this game is playable and well optimized.

I'm going to make a video showing Just Cause 3 running as well, because people think that PC optimization is a myth. Just look at the Steam reviews to get a clue.

[JamesBroski]

Here are two videos to prove you that Just Cause 3 performances make the game unplayable.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Gameplay999]

Still getting XB1 version tomorrow in hopes they'll optimize after release with patches. I really have no other option. Ive seen gameplay vids of the X1 version and whatever Im still gonna have fun with it.

[Rookie_Monster]

Well said. That is all that matters. Have fun with the game. Look at the brightside, you get a bonus in Just Cause 2 X360 BC with the XB1 version.

[TKCMuzzer]

Everyone having all these bubbles is not a good thing.

[Bladesfist]

@TKCMuzzer Just because you don't agree with him does not mean he should not be allowed to talk as much as you. Nothing he said was even remotely close to trolling.

[GortJester]

Patches will certainly help.

[Bathyj]

Well said mate. Dont let all this negativity spoil gaming for you. THe game is gonna be a blast, enjoy it on whatever platform youre able.

And heres hoping patches improve things across the board.

[MasterCornholio]

Just ignore the rookies on this website.

Nobody has the right to tell you what to do with your money. If you want the game on XB1 just buy it and enjoy blowing crap up.

[Germany7]

It will run fine on my platform of choice, but first i will play Xenoblade.

[Meltic]

Xbox one = Potato Machine. Ps4 = Less potato but still allso a potato machine. PC is the way to go.

[xTheMercenary_]

Hold up, they're technically both potato's, how can they be less of a potato, if they're still a potato? Is one of them half a potato? Ahhh f*** it, just confusing myself now.

[Meltic]

yeah less potato

[sadsatan]

dropbox hitting 20fps is simply unacceptable

[xTheMercenary_]

Although 20 fps is unacceptable, don't act like an additional 4 fps is good either. Clearly they need more optimisations, more so on the xbox one version.

[Destiny1080]

the dropbox hit 0fps in there last effort so 20fps is like the power of the clouds

[NickieNick]

Nice trolling. That was a glitch, obviously. A stutter.

Also, try learning the difference between "there" and "their" before embarrassing yourself next time with asinine comments.

[Bathyj]

You guys are all overreacting. This game looks kickarse. With the amount of crap going on in this game I was expected framerate dips. For the most part it seems pretty good and all the footage I've seen looks very playable and gorgeous.

I dont think I'm going to be worrying about this storm in a teacup too much in 8 hours when Im tethering guys to moving cars, strapping C4 to goats and generally just running amok.

[kupomogli]

But... but.. but... the PS4 version was unplayable according to that one guy who made a post the other day, stating that his "friend," imaginary probably, said the Xbox One version played flawlessly.

In five minutes the PS4 very rarely dropped in frames other than the being blown up with C4.

[kenwonobi]

Yeah but he was a really good friend. They were on Facebook friends list together too.

[Plagasx]

Just Cause 3 is meant to be played on PC. Anyone who has played JC2 on PC would agree wholeheartedly.

[Bathyj]

Its meant to be played on the platform you like playing on. Anyone who played Just Cause 2 and enjoyed it on the platform they like playing on would agree wholeheartedly.

[Plagasx]

Yes but playing it on PC factually makes the JC2 experience much more fun and entertaining. Especially with all the mods.

[Bathyj]

Well ok, I cant argue with the benefit of Mods, and this isnt directed specifically at you so dont take offense. I'm just saying theres too many people in here trying to down play what is going to be a great game on any platform. PC gamers sneering at console gamers, PS4 gamers sneering at Xbox gamers. Just enjoy the damn game, its going to be great.

[DashArrivals]

PS4 is the more powerful console. Always has been and always will be. Once in every 5th blue moon an Xbox Multiplat performs better on the bone, just means that it's been poorly optimized.

Does anyone have the link to that article on N4G where the author "heard from a mate" that Xbox performs better and that the FPS on PS4 was "bloody awful". :D

[Captain_Wormy]

http://tinyurl.com/o8sy43y

[MasterCornholio]

Well that shows what happens when you make claims without doing some research first.

Guess the author deserves to give us an apology for trying to mislead us.

[Bathyj]

And might I add, having now watched the video that those just taking the lowest number on the each platform (20 & 24) and claiming theres 4fps difference between these two are waaaaay off the mark.

The PS4 version barely dips at all. Yes I saw it drop to 25 during the bridge when the Xbox version also dipped, but I saw numerous occasions when the PS4 was a rock solid 30fps while the Xbox was dipping (as low as 21). 95% of the time the PS4 was where its supposed to be. The Xbox was a bit all over the place and thats a shame, but hopefully a patch can sort that out.

I still dont think anyones going to have a bad time with this game because of framerate.

[kenwonobi]

So what we've learned here is yet another lesson. Not to gloat before BOTH versions have been played and analysed. The recent mentioned article in question regarding the PS4 version just created a bunch of red faces for no reason. Now we know both versions suffer but in particular Xbox has more issues. Thank you for clearing that up digital foundry. That? Is how a professional analysis is done. As opposed to word of mouth of one version and only playing the other.

[Wolfenstein51]

Shame on Avalanche. They have been working in this game for YEARS and yet Mad Max runs better than JC3! There are a lot of fans who must be disappointed by these low framerates. Of course I will buy the game on PS4 because I love JC2, but Avalanche had really let down their fans.

[kraenk12]

Ignorance much?! There is so much more physics calculation going on in this game...how can you even compare it with Mad Max?!

[MCTJim]

20-24 FPS LOL just bad optimization...there is no excuse other than that. Stop with the PS4 is 50% more powerful and X1 has secret sauce. Plain as the eyes can see, this game is piss poor in the optimized dept.

[TABSF]

Still got my Intel Core i5 2500K nearly 5yrs old now and every next gen game this CPU toasts that in PS4/XB1

[TWB]

Cmon, considering how explosive the game is thats not even such big of a deal. The framerate seemed to stabilize fairly quickly.

Anyone remember games like Red Faction Guerilla or Crysis 2 (or plenty of poorly ported games on PS3) that constantly ran under 30 and very occasionally dipping under 20?

Sure JC3 maybe could run better but considering how well the engine runs on PC I think its pretty optimized already.

[Destiny1080]

im actually surprised how close to perfect it is on the ps4, a patch or two could see it perfect and a drop to 24 when a bridge blows up is nothing, in saying that I wont buy any game with screen tearing, this might be one for the pc

[ZombieStalker]

Talk about a poor comparison. Regress of which console performs better, the scenes on the two consoles don't line up. One console shows an explosion while the other console does not. How can you compare when you have different graphical scenes displayed. What about load times?

Once you remove statistical margin of error in regards to frames per second, not much difference between the consoles. If you want the graphically superior version, buy the PC version.

Regardless of which version you buy, it looks like a great game!

[GreetingsfromCanada]

So it's worse than Unity.

[masterfox]

oh look PS4 wins again! :D

[horndog]

Unfortunately this is one of those games that will never make it into my catalogue. RotTR is gorgeous and addicting and I still have to go back and finish off forza. Halo on line awaits in between tomb raider and fall out 4. Next game is quantum. I love my X1. Best line up ever. Just cause looks awesome and if I ever do get around it will be on pc just like the others ones in the series. This game was always a pc game. It's were it was born to begin with

[dRanzer]

This gen is not going well when is come to open world games,maybe on ps5 and the next xbox.sony and MS need to understand that we as gamers dont care to put extra 50$-100$ for more powerful hardware
This game is for pc for sure

[keymillo]

I just love this game and could play this all day. I bought Just Cuase 3 really cheap (only 28 euro) here: www.bit.ly/HYPER_PROMO

[Tobsesan]

Both versions run like crap, they should have delayed the game....

[UNKLE]

I don't know why consolefanboys arguing about the fps loss yeah 25fps when exploding something that is good not bad most of times is 30fps.. I remember back old days when we played ps1/ps2 games those games was runned like 20-25 fps and guess what NOBODY CARED!!! most of today gamers is a whining brat about stupid 60 fps...

[mark_parch]

People still talking about a difference of 5 fps for a few seconds here and there. The games are basically the same just like every other multiplat, just like all the multiplats on 360 and ps3 were the same

[mochachino]

The fact that neither of these console are sustaining 30fps in so many games is disappointing. It's likely just a matter of tweaking too. My ps4 Witcher 3 performance increased substantially post release. Hopefully next year devs have a better understanding of the hardware.

[Yukonsbud]

Wow, what a joke of a console generation. I can't wait till its over. Hopefully the next batch of consoles can preform better than these two junkers. Cuz so far its been nothing but disappointments.

[mkis007]

The problem is devs don't target the specs of the console. I.E they will have this problem forever. They try to stretch what they are given. Even on pc's it is hard to find a well optimized game.

[thisgamer503]

YAY! My ps4 runs this game like shit...but the xb1 runs it just a little shittier so I can brag about it running good now!!!! YAY!!!!

[Satyre28]

I literally am to the point that i cannot wait for the next gen. It is so damn obvious that the PS4 and X1 are underpowered, almost every single game worth mentioning has suffered from some type of performance issues. I mean Fallout on both consoles it nothing to be proud of, and The Witcher has significant FPS drops. Sony and MS both really dropped the ball, all i can hope for is that the next gen comes soon and that they put up to date specs into them even if they have to increase the price a bit. I would have no problem paying 500$ for a console.

[kenwonobi]

They both have shite cpu power. Xbox is horribly underpowered. Ps4 is slightly underpowered with a decent gpu and memory. These are the equivalent of both barely passing the hardware test. They are essentially PS3's with a beefed up memory and GPU. The cell in PS3 in fact is still on par if not stronger than both consoles cpu. PS4 had its heart in the right place at GPU. Barely. They could have followed that same philosophy at cpu and at least upclocked to at least bare minimum 2.5. Instead they felt a measly 1.75 and 1.65 would be enough for both respective systems. And Microsoft? Wtf We're you thinking? Coming in weak cpu and GPU? Wtf? You can't lose money on a console to start the generation? Can't gamble a little to win big by having the most money at your disposal to have the superior hardware? That arrogant selfish, money grubbing, money stealing constant thought process is what did Xbox One in before launching. You had the resources to give gamers what they wanted over Sony. You chose greed first. Like Microsoft as a corporation always does. You deserve to get blown away by Sony for it. At least they had excuses to be cautious because of financial troubles back then.

[squeezx]

Didn't think we would be seeing frame rate issues this early in current gen. I sure hope they can make the next gen consoles more powerful.