Here Is Why Darksiders 2 Does Not Run At 60fps On PS4/Xbox One, Would Have Caused Drop In Resolution

Design director John Pearl talks about some of the major engine changes that would have been required.

[moegooner88]

*would have required more optimisation.

[DarkOcelet]

Agreed. The PS4/Xone are capable of running this game at 1080/60fps. Its not that demanding.

[donthate]

Yet the developers are saying otherwise. I think the developers would if the optimization would have taken reasonable time. Let's not trust armchair devs here.

On the other hand, the developer focused on resolution instead of frame rate. I hope it is at least stable frame rate.

I hate this trend of focus on resolution, when stable frame rate matters far more to the user experience, but resolution wins every time in marketing!

[Eonjay]

@donthate

"I hate this trend of focus on resolution"

stop hating.

[InTheLab]

Yup. The whole point of remasters is shoving out a product with minimal effort for a quick buck. Game is last gen and 3 years old and there's no way anything but a small team worked on porting it...

[Unspoken]

@DarkOcelet

Can you go into detail about the game engine and how you, as a developer, could get this game running at 1080p 60fps?

Or are you just spouting BS?

And I take "optimization" that moegooner is referring to is by lowering settings until it looks like a last gen game?

It's OK guys, these consoles won't reach PC level of hardware and performance... Not until next cycle when they catch up again to low end PCs.

I'd much rather they focus on an entertaining experience through game play than throw their entire development team at a specific resolution and frame rate.

[tgunzz]

Both xb1/ps4 have excellent upscalers. 1080p doesn't have to be native in order to fully enjoy it's visual effect. Developers should let the decoders help (it's apart of the architecture), and get after that 60fps where necessary...

[Neonridr]

Here's why we couldn't get a last gen game to run at 1080p/60fps...

we are lazy and we really just want your money.

[Ezz2013]

I just put their comment on Google translation (*English* to *BS*)
and
Yep, That's what they means.

[Timesplitter14]

At some point, if reaching 60fps/1080p demands insane amounts of work that you wouldn't need to do on other platforms (PC), it kinda starts being the platform's fault.

The overwhelming majority of major console releases this gen have failed to reach that coveted 60fps/1080p. This tells me console games are trying to bite off more than they can chew in terms of visual quality

[Neonridr]

for new games I can totally understand that reasoning. I mean Battlefront looks gorgeous. And if it can only be 900p on PS4, then so be it. I can handle that because of how good the game looks.

But when we take a 360/PS3 game and we are having trouble with 1080p/60fps then I start to wonder why are we releasing a "definitive version" if all we are doing is increasing the resolution a bit.

[slinky123456]

Your comment tells me you don't even know how low PC hardware can run this game at 1080p 60fps.

[Timesplitter14]

@slinky123456
Well that just means ps4/x1 are below "low PC hardware"

[Freeball]

No kidding. My old PC with a 560 ran this game at 1080/60. This stinks of laziness, no talent, or both.

[megamanX2]

"Here Is Why Darksiders 2 Does Not Run At 60fps On PS4/Xbox One, Would Have Caused Drop In Resolution"

Lol wow these consoles are complete garbage if they cant even run a last gen game.

[Spotie]

Uh, what? Both consoles can, obviously, run the game. And there are more demanding titles out there. Not sure how you manage to take the title of this article and come to that conclusion.

[slinky123456]

MGS5 a current gen game looks way better, bigger scope of a game and runs at 1080p 60fps on PS4. Shows you know nothing of true hardware.

[yewles1]

"MGS5, a cross-gen game looks barely any better, baren wasteland of an open world game and runs at 1080p 60fps on PS4 and 900p on XBOX ONE (720p if you count Ground Zeroes)."

FTFY

[TomRL]

It shouldn't have a sub-1080p resolution if it's a remaster, but framerate is surely more important. Who purchases a remaster for a resolution bump?

[Play2Win]

me

[MilkMan]

Me
as well as for the others reasons they worked on the game.

[darksky]

Lazy devs. To increase resolution doesn't take any work at all. The PS4/Xboxone are essentially PC's and all the devs would have done is 'port' the PC version over that ran at 60fps on my old AMD 5870 which is slower than the PS4 gpu.

No idea why they couldn't get the game running at 60 fps when all they did was set the resolution option to 1080P...

[UlyssesFeral]

They replaced quite a few textures and tweaked the lighting a bit. While I agree that they could have easily gotten to 60fps if they spent more time with it, they did more than just set it to output at a higher resolution.

[megamanX2]

"The PS4/Xboxone are essentially PC's"

yeah inferior severely outdated pcs.

[MilkMan]

Look, I might have to take their word on this. This is one of the most beautiful games I've ever played.
I've told all my gaming friends about this remaster. This is the third time I've bought and I am very glad I did. The lighting effects alone, just always make me stop playing and just stop there and look.
Besides the virtue of the game being on PS4 alone makes it a more zippy game. Took me a second to get adjusted to the speed.

Make no mistake the game is gorgeous. No game I've played this year, or going back a few years actually has looked this good.

Unfortunately YouTube just doesn't demonstrate this and I'm starting to wonder about the relevance of YouTube for "comparisons" and video fidelity.

[ISHU]

Yup i loved the game. Very underrated in my opinion.

[Italiano1234567]

Problem is all developers are not created equal...so while some can get 1080/60 others have a problem getting there

[sullynathan]

The weird feeling when bigger current gen games that are more graphically impressive can run up to 60fps

[yewles1]

I think people are forgetting that one fact is the lighting redone with PBR implemented, that's a resource hog.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

if push comes to shove I would rather have 900p 60fps vs 1080p 30fps.

[thricetold]

This is the definitive edition? I'll pass. Hope others do as well.

[NeoGamer232]

I would've preferred a lower resolution with 60 FPS than 1080p and 30 FPS.

Action-Adventures should all be framerate first, resolution second.

[UlyssesFeral]

If TLOU Remastered could run at 60fps most of the time at 1080p with its numerous texture, model and lighting enhancements, then there's absolutely no reason Darksiders II couldn't do the same. Granted, I'll get it eventually anyway. It looks fine enough. I want to play it again since, though I enjoyed it, I can hardly stand the screen tearing on my 360. But saying it would absolutely need a resolution drop to achieve 60fps just isn't true.

[DivineAssault]

I wonder why many of the other remasters ran 60fps then.. smh lame excuse for a poor port just to get people ready for their next game

[Castlevania]

Only reason I'm getting this is that I don't already own the game and haven't played it before. This version may be better in many areas, but it's undoubtedly lackluster and the devs could have done more. I understand that changing the engine and rebuilding levels and data takes more time than many gamers can understand, but if you aren't willing to put in that kind of effort, you shouldn't even bother in the first place. 60fps is the standard of 8th gen remasters for a reason.

[MilkMan]

Have you played the game since this post? Id be interested in reading your opinion of the game if you've played it.

[Castlevania]

I haven't played it yet, but once I pick it up and put in a few hours, I'll reply with my thoughts.